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Microsoft word question

Angelo Sonnesso
 

Is there a way to fine out what line you are on in your document?
In Jaws when you press insert/caps lock plus period it tells you the line
number you are on.
Thanks

73 N2DYN Angelo


Re: Nvda remote access

Robert Doc Wright godfearer
 

have you tried reinstaling it?

----- Original Message -----
From: "DAVID" <davidlacaille2@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2018 5:15 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Nvda remote access


hi all.
the windows am using is windows 8.1 NVDA 2018 remote addon 2.2
when I go to the remote options and click on conict or options it keep
going back to the desktop.
it just not letting me get into the options or to connict at all.
hope I said it so that you could see what is going on.


On 10/12/18, Robert Doc Wright godfearer <godfearer@comcast.net> wrote:
be sure you are running nvdaremote.com v2.2
----- Original Message -----
From: "DAVID" <davidlacaille2@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2018 3:05 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Nvda remote access


hi all.
how come I cant use the options or conict to anything using the remote
addon.


On 10/12/18, Jackie <abletec@gmail.com> wrote:
Hey, Joe, you're more than welcome, believe me! If all the problems I
had to solve were that simple, I'd be walkin' in clover lol.

There was just a lot of discussion on this list awhile back that the
old NVDA Remote was incompatible w/the latest version of NVDA, & that
the authors had just recently updated it to make it so. I was blessed
to have remembered all that, I guess, & it didn't hurt either that it
affected me as well.

Have a great weekend.

On 10/12/18, Joe Paton <patonplace@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello Jackie,
That, indeed was the problem. I had version 1.2, version 2.2, fixed
the
issue.

Thank you so much.
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Re: daisy book reader

David Griffith
 

 

This is strange.

I have just gone back  and run FS Reader without any issue using the latest NVDA release.

I have Jaws 18 and 19 Beta installed on this system though.

It may be that the software now checks  for a Jaws licence even if it is not running.

If this is so I am sorry for misleading the list as I was unaware of this change.

David Griffith

 

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Sent: 13 October 2018 08:35
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] daisy book reader

 

You say that but I did this and tried to use it and it said you have to have

Jaws running to use this software.

That did not used to happen before this year.

Brian

 

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Sent: Friday, October 12, 2018 4:31 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] daisy book reader

 

 

FS Reader works fine in NVDA.

Just install Jaws and let it alone and run FS Reader and use it withNVDA.

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From: Robert Doc Wright godfearer

Sent: 12 October 2018 16:21

To: NVDA

Subject: [nvda] daisy book reader

 

Is there a reader similar to jaws fsReader for NVDA?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Re: No voice, Power Point Slide Show view on Laptop with HDMI connected, NVDA restart fixes problem

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Do you by any chance have a special profile set up for powerpoint that was in some way being used to set sound parameters, like a particular voice. I do not see how though, it would take the form you mention. This sounds almost like a sound driver quirk but only affecting one piece of software. Do any other bits of office do this?
I've not used recent versions of Powerpoint but I do know that a virtual window from another machine won't speak but that has little to do with your action.
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From: "Rick" <softwarethatworks@gmail.com>
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Sent: Friday, October 12, 2018 9:11 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] No voice, Power Point Slide Show view on Laptop with HDMI connected, NVDA restart fixes problem


Hello Joseph:



I will look into this as I try to replicate the problem using a TV monitor
instead of a projector and see if the sound actually gets rerouted. However,
this only happens on the Power Point Slide Show window. All other windows
continue speaking out the default speaker. I would think that all speech
would be rerouted and not just the slide show. Additionally, once I restart
NVDA, I can open and close Power Point and the speech continues to come out
the default speaker when starting a slide show.



Also, Narrator does not exhibit this problem.



Rick



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2018 3:37 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] No voice, Power Point Slide Show view on Laptop with
HDMI connected, NVDA restart fixes problem



Hi,

This may have to do with audio output redirection: when an HDMI cable is
connected, sound is sent through the cable, so NVDA may not recognize that
you've still got your internal sound card active. You can ask NVDA to speak
through a chosen sound card via Synthesizer/output device combo box
(Control+NVDA+S).

Cheers,

Joseph



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> <nvda@nvda.groups.io
<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Rick
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2018 12:32 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] No voice, Power Point Slide Show view on Laptop with HDMI
connected, NVDA restart fixes problem



I have 2 high-end Lenovo laptops with nVidia graphics cards. Both are
running Windows 10 Professional and Office 365 desktop apps. One computer is
brand new while the other is 3 years old. These are work computers, so
Windows and Office are updated within the last few months and not
necessarily running the absolute latest updates. I am running the latest
released version of NVDA and have no addin present. I have Microsoft Speech
API Version 5 as my voice.



If connected to projectors using the HDMI port, putting a Power Point
presentation into slide show mode (by pressing the F5 key) I lose all speech
output on that particular window. It doesn't matter if I am using the
internal speakers or am connected to a wired or wireless headset. Alt
tabbing to other windows and NVDA speaks just fine, but not on the slide
show window. Moving from slide to slide produces no speech. If the HDMI
connection is not present, NVDA speaks just fine in slide show mode.



If I now restart NVDA with Power Point still displaying the slide show and
the HDMI connection still present, everything works as expected. NVDA reads
the slides as I navigate from slide to slide, using the internal speakers or
connected headset.



I tried restarting NVDA after booting the computer to see if it was a
problem with the autostart of NVDA completing prior to other parts of the
system completing initialization, but it still failed to speak in slide show
window until restarting NVDA after launching Power Point.



Rick








Re: No voice, Power Point Slide Show view on Laptop with HDMI connected, NVDA restart fixes problem

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Do all sounds go away, or just nvda. I was wondering if the sound was going to hdmi.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Rick" <softwarethatworks@gmail.com>
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Sent: Friday, October 12, 2018 8:31 PM
Subject: [nvda] No voice, Power Point Slide Show view on Laptop with HDMI connected, NVDA restart fixes problem


I have 2 high-end Lenovo laptops with nVidia graphics cards. Both are
running Windows 10 Professional and Office 365 desktop apps. One computer is
brand new while the other is 3 years old. These are work computers, so
Windows and Office are updated within the last few months and not
necessarily running the absolute latest updates. I am running the latest
released version of NVDA and have no addin present. I have Microsoft Speech
API Version 5 as my voice.



If connected to projectors using the HDMI port, putting a Power Point
presentation into slide show mode (by pressing the F5 key) I lose all speech
output on that particular window. It doesn't matter if I am using the
internal speakers or am connected to a wired or wireless headset. Alt
tabbing to other windows and NVDA speaks just fine, but not on the slide
show window. Moving from slide to slide produces no speech. If the HDMI
connection is not present, NVDA speaks just fine in slide show mode.



If I now restart NVDA with Power Point still displaying the slide show and
the HDMI connection still present, everything works as expected. NVDA reads
the slides as I navigate from slide to slide, using the internal speakers or
connected headset.



I tried restarting NVDA after booting the computer to see if it was a
problem with the autostart of NVDA completing prior to other parts of the
system completing initialization, but it still failed to speak in slide show
window until restarting NVDA after launching Power Point.



Rick






Re: Hi

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The questions are then, does having the add on stop the old commands from working
Does the new virtualised window offer any of the operations like clicking of the inbuilt system
If it does do this, then is it maybe better?
Is there anything that it can do that the navigation modes cannot. I seem to recall that its still not as good as the Jaws version.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Friday, October 12, 2018 9:37 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Hi


Hi!

I was the mentor of this addon initially developed by Rui Batista and currently maintained by Joseph Lee...

I do not agree that it will force the users to do not learn NVDA review tools, but it will be usefull untill they learn...
And it is also usefull to users coming from Jaws...

Rui



Às 19:19 de 12/10/2018, Gene escreveu:
However, does using this add--on discourage learning how to use screen-review commands in NVDA? and does this lack of learning mean that, when it is advisable to use the activate command available on the numpad or to use the route and click virtual mouse commands NVDA provides, the user won't know how to do these things? This may be an add-on that duplicates functions already available in NVDA where the user would be much better off learning the NVDA way to do things if the user if at all demanding and who wishshes to go beyond rather elementary learning. Also, some NVDA review commands are essential for working with Windows 10 apps. It sounds like a bad idea to have such an add-on that discourages learning of the screen-reader itself.
Gene
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*Sent:* Friday, October 12, 2018 1:12 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Hi

Hi
Download and install the Virtual review addon then you can use
NVDA+Control+w to virtualise a window then browse it using arrow keys.

Cheers
Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Michael
Munn
Sent: 12 October 2018 16:49
To: nvda@groups.io <mailto:nvda@groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] Hi

Hi all, This is Michael. i have a question about a feature in NVDA.
How can one virtualize a window using NVDA? I'm asking that because
yesterday I was doing something with NVDa and some error message pop up and
I couldn't read it because I don't know how to virtualize the message.
I would be able to read it if I use Jaws. I'm not saying bad thing about the
nvda Screen reader.
Please help if you all can.
Best Regards Michael Munn





Re: Hi

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I have noticed that some alerts in windows and other software are using some odd way of displaying a message. Even if it opens in the background, alt tabbing to it will not actually read it. sometimes, but not always, you can switch to screen virtual nav and read it a bit at a time, but not always.
I noticed in Jaws this happens far less and it seems able to read these. Obviously the text can be seen by nvda, its just the automatic reading when appropriate which is missing. Its quite hard to do an nvda/F1 on some of these without losing the focus and getting meaningless log entries though.
I'm just guessing this is what is being discussed.
Nodal windows or some such or errors say in a C program or an exception somewhere in a program are the main ones. The other problem I often see is that nvda cannot reboot while an error that crashed its error is on screen. sometimes Narrator will read those but not always.
Brian

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Sent: Friday, October 12, 2018 5:18 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Hi


Please explain what you mean by "virtualize a window".

That phrase doesn't mean anything to me (and therefore, maybe not to others
here either).

Antony.

On Friday 12 October 2018 at 17:48:43, Michael Munn wrote:

Hi all, This is Michael. i have a question about a feature in NVDA.
How can one virtualize a window using NVDA? I'm asking that because
yesterday I was doing something with NVDa and some error message pop up
and I couldn't read it because I don't know how to virtualize the message.
I would be able to read it if I use Jaws. I'm not saying bad thing about
the nvda Screen reader. Please help if you all can.
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Re: Why does NVDA find not find "cars" on this page?

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Specifically I'm not sure, but could the design of the page perhaps hide parts when you are not in that area, making them invisible to anything but a site search?
Brian

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Sent: Friday, October 12, 2018 4:30 PM
Subject: [nvda] Why does NVDA find not find "cars" on this page?


https://harrisonburg.craigslist.org/search/cto?auto_make_model=convertible

If I use a straight browser search it finds the word, "cars," in the navigation frame on the left in the "cars & trucks - by owner" link, and it is a link, as well as in the "background text" in the edit box that shows the same phrase in light gray until you start typing in a search term.

Sometimes when I use the NVDA find it finds it, other times, it doesn't. It seems to depend on my having interacted with the page, but that content does not appear/disappear whether I've interacted with the page or not.

I seem to have this happening more frequently lately with both NVDA and JAWS (yes, I know that this isn't the JAWS group, but wanted to note it). I have always encouraged my clients to favor the screen reader search function over the straight browser search as it takes into account controls that a straight search does not. But lately it also seems to be not finding things I can clearly see are present on the screen. It's a mystery to me why this is.

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Re: daisy book reader

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You say that but I did this and tried to use it and it said you have to have Jaws running to use this software.
That did not used to happen before this year.
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Sent: Friday, October 12, 2018 4:31 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] daisy book reader


FS Reader works fine in NVDA.
Just install Jaws and let it alone and run FS Reader and use it withNVDA.
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From: Robert Doc Wright godfearer
Sent: 12 October 2018 16:21
To: NVDA
Subject: [nvda] daisy book reader

Is there a reader similar to jaws fsReader for NVDA?


Re: Tooltips

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Well, I hear tooltips sometimes. Certainly NVDA can beset to read them in the settings. Since you cannot prove a negative its hard to say without sighted help but on some things when highlighted by tabbing to them I hear a description as is supposed to be in the tooltip, on others I do not. Same with Jaws. Similar issues with windows 7 balloons etc too.


For a definitive answer though you will need somebody who works with the nvda code. I have my suspicions that some objects use a different method to generate the tips.

Its a bit like the extra details some folders in explore seem to reveal making it found like a file name is read twice, the second time with other data appended.
Brian

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Sent: Friday, October 12, 2018 3:48 PM
Subject: [nvda] Tooltips


Good afternoon,

Friends, this might seem odd to some and obvious to others, so I feel I should apologise in advance for what follows.

I've just learnt about the existance of tooltips. If I understand well, they are messages displayed when someone points the mouse at certain elements on a web page, without clicking on them. If possible, I would be curious to know the folowing:
1. How can we know if, and where these tooltips are present? Does NVDA anounces them? If so, what does it say?I don't remember hearing such information so far, and I've been using it for quite a while.
2. How can we read those tooltips, given that we rarely use the mouse? At least I never do that, even though I know about mouse simulation; I never have the reflex to actually use that function. I am getting old I suppose.

I thank in advance all those who will enlighten me on this topic.

Warm regards from France,

Vlad.


Re: [EXTERNAL] - [nvda] Screen reader accessibility with Kindle

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Amazon accessibility have been told about this authoring error, have they not fixed it yet?
Brian

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Sent: Friday, October 12, 2018 2:52 PM
Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] - [nvda] Screen reader accessibility with Kindle


kindle for pc latest version is accessible with jaws and NVDA. you can
read kindle books with nvda commands provided book has screen reader
supported and wordwise enabled which you can check in product
description. finding buy now button in amazon site using jaws or nvda
is difficult now days

On 10/12/18, Joshua Crary <JCrary@rcc.mass.edu> wrote:
I believe you can also download a Kindle App for Windows. However, I found
the process of downloading books through Kindle in a browser on my PC and
accessing those books with NVDA or other screen readers difficult and never
successfully read Kindle books on my PC. I have ben using my Iphone and
Ibooks as my portable ebook reader.



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To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [EXTERNAL] - [nvda] Screen reader accessibility with Kindle

Hello guys!
Since, ebook readers especially customized for blind people, like Victor
ebook reader, are very expensive, I'm thinking of buying a Kindle. I have
heard that it has a screen reader called voiceview. How good is it? And how
long does the battery last while using screen readers for reading books?
Also, the latest version of Kindle Paper White doesn't come with an audio
jack, so I'm also open to purchasing an older model.
All suggestions are welcome.

Regards
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Re: Nvda remote access

DAVID <davidlacaille2@...>
 

ok well guess what I did and the same problem.
now what if I did a cleen oninstall and then reinstall would that help?

On 10/12/18, Roger Stewart <paganus2@gmail.com> wrote:
Yep, I see what's going on. You need to update to NVDA 2018.3.2.  Then
all should be good.

Roger











On 10/12/2018 6:15 PM, DAVID wrote:
hi all.
the windows am using is windows 8.1 NVDA 2018 remote addon 2.2
when I go to the remote options and click on conict or options it keep
going back to the desktop.
it just not letting me get into the options or to connict at all.
hope I said it so that you could see what is going on.


On 10/12/18, Robert Doc Wright godfearer <godfearer@comcast.net> wrote:
be sure you are running nvdaremote.com v2.2
----- Original Message -----
From: "DAVID" <davidlacaille2@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2018 3:05 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Nvda remote access


hi all.
how come I cant use the options or conict to anything using the remote
addon.


On 10/12/18, Jackie <abletec@gmail.com> wrote:
Hey, Joe, you're more than welcome, believe me! If all the problems I
had to solve were that simple, I'd be walkin' in clover lol.

There was just a lot of discussion on this list awhile back that the
old NVDA Remote was incompatible w/the latest version of NVDA, & that
the authors had just recently updated it to make it so. I was blessed
to have remembered all that, I guess, & it didn't hurt either that it
affected me as well.

Have a great weekend.

On 10/12/18, Joe Paton <patonplace@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello Jackie,
That, indeed was the problem. I had version 1.2, version 2.2, fixed
the
issue.

Thank you so much.
Joe



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Re: Screen reader accessibility with Kindle

Annette Moore
 

jscholes.net/project/codex/
And here's the link for the documentation:
jscholes.net/project_files/codex/readme-en.html

On 10/12/2018 9:28 PM, The Wolf wrote:
can I get the website?

On 10/12/2018 7:27 PM, Annette Moore wrote:
Oh, I wouldn't be without Codex! Love that thing!


On 10/12/2018 4:43 PM, Dave wrote:
Yes, CodeX has become one of my most Favorite programs.   I don't know
how it does what it does, but I am sure glad it is available, and that
it works so well.









Re: Screen reader accessibility with Kindle

 

can I get the website?

On 10/12/2018 7:27 PM, Annette Moore wrote:
Oh, I wouldn't be without Codex! Love that thing!


On 10/12/2018 4:43 PM, Dave wrote:
Yes, CodeX has become one of my most Favorite programs.   I don't know
how it does what it does, but I am sure glad it is available, and that
it works so well.







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Re: Screen reader accessibility with Kindle

Annette Moore
 

Oh, I wouldn't be without Codex! Love that thing!

On 10/12/2018 4:43 PM, Dave wrote:
Yes, CodeX has become one of my most Favorite programs. I don't know
how it does what it does, but I am sure glad it is available, and that
it works so well.





Re: NVDA key to be assignable to any key

Aman Singer
 

Hi,

The difficulty, of course, is that each person will have his own useless key depending on his circumstances. That is, the Mac user might want to use one of the control keys, I want to use the right alt, others might want to use the ` key, still others might use backslash... A user-definable key would do away with the need for judging which of the keys is most useless and allow the user to choose the key which is most convenient. It's also worth noting that people might want to control things from modified keyboards, sticks, etc, and again, defining by keycode rather than any hard-coded value would allow such people to do what they wanted. Obviously, this would be in addition to the current system, the issue first proposing it even suggested a hidden option and, so long as it's documented, I think that would work well. There is no doubt that the current setup is the most suitable for the vast majority of people, this is just an idea for the few who might want it.
Aman







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Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA key to be assignable to any key

Not so sure they are the same. When using another device to control the machine its more like the remote add on situation I would imagine.
The question really is, what key could one use that is not important in any other setting if its hi jacked for the nvda key. Might be interesting to see if the Shark works and kind of see what they did if it does.

I'm thinking of some kind of double tap of a key with the other key you need or something like that.
Brian

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Re: Nvda remote access

Roger Stewart
 

Yep, I see what's going on. You need to update to NVDA 2018.3.2.  Then all should be good.

Roger

On 10/12/2018 6:15 PM, DAVID wrote:
hi all.
the windows am using is windows 8.1 NVDA 2018 remote addon 2.2
when I go to the remote options and click on conict or options it keep
going back to the desktop.
it just not letting me get into the options or to connict at all.
hope I said it so that you could see what is going on.


On 10/12/18, Robert Doc Wright godfearer <godfearer@comcast.net> wrote:
be sure you are running nvdaremote.com v2.2
----- Original Message -----
From: "DAVID" <davidlacaille2@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2018 3:05 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Nvda remote access


hi all.
how come I cant use the options or conict to anything using the remote
addon.


On 10/12/18, Jackie <abletec@gmail.com> wrote:
Hey, Joe, you're more than welcome, believe me! If all the problems I
had to solve were that simple, I'd be walkin' in clover lol.

There was just a lot of discussion on this list awhile back that the
old NVDA Remote was incompatible w/the latest version of NVDA, & that
the authors had just recently updated it to make it so. I was blessed
to have remembered all that, I guess, & it didn't hurt either that it
affected me as well.

Have a great weekend.

On 10/12/18, Joe Paton <patonplace@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello Jackie,
That, indeed was the problem. I had version 1.2, version 2.2, fixed
the
issue.

Thank you so much.
Joe



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Re: Nvda remote access

Roger Stewart
 

Yep, I see what's going on. You need to update to NVDA 2018.3.2.  Then all should be good.

Roger

On 10/12/2018 6:15 PM, DAVID wrote:
hi all.
the windows am using is windows 8.1 NVDA 2018 remote addon 2.2
when I go to the remote options and click on conict or options it keep
going back to the desktop.
it just not letting me get into the options or to connict at all.
hope I said it so that you could see what is going on.


On 10/12/18, Robert Doc Wright godfearer <godfearer@comcast.net> wrote:
be sure you are running nvdaremote.com v2.2
----- Original Message -----
From: "DAVID" <davidlacaille2@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2018 3:05 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Nvda remote access


hi all.
how come I cant use the options or conict to anything using the remote
addon.


On 10/12/18, Jackie <abletec@gmail.com> wrote:
Hey, Joe, you're more than welcome, believe me! If all the problems I
had to solve were that simple, I'd be walkin' in clover lol.

There was just a lot of discussion on this list awhile back that the
old NVDA Remote was incompatible w/the latest version of NVDA, & that
the authors had just recently updated it to make it so. I was blessed
to have remembered all that, I guess, & it didn't hurt either that it
affected me as well.

Have a great weekend.

On 10/12/18, Joe Paton <patonplace@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello Jackie,
That, indeed was the problem. I had version 1.2, version 2.2, fixed
the
issue.

Thank you so much.
Joe



--
Remember! Friends Help Friends Be Cybersafe
Jackie McBride
Helping Cybercrime Victims 1 Person at a Time
https://brighter-vision.com



--
David La Caille






NVDA/VNC on mobile was RE: [nvda] NVDA key to be assignable to any key

Aman Singer
 

Hi,

 

                Since I believe this to be on topic, I will summarize the setup, if I may, on list. It’s not complicated and, unfortunately, only works with NVDA.

                First, Hank writes:

 

didn't know vnc had audio support and worked with a screen reader

 

                VNC does not support audio and takes no account of screen readers. I would be grateful for correction on either of these points, but expect not to get it. The only remotely similar things I’ve seen are specialized remote access, NVDA remote, Jaws tandem, remote desktop with screen readers, etc… To my knowledge, none of these work on a mobile device.

                I’m using VNC only for input. Basically, I’m routing input from my iPhone to a computer so that I can use my desktop from anywhere with an internet connection. I am also routing braille and audio output from my desktop to either an Android phone or the iPhone so that I can hear NVDA over the audio link and read braille over the USB link. This isn’t a difficult thing, everything I use is mainstream and cheap except, of course, for the braille display, which is neither, and NVDA, which isn’t mainstream.

                For input, I use Jump Desktop as a VNC client

https://www.jumpdesktop.com/

                I suspect that any client with full hardware keyboard support will be suitable. Jump is just the one I had. Note that I have yet to find any client for Android with full hardware keyboard support, shortcuts don’t usually work from the hardware keyboard on Android. There are tons of these clients for iOS, Windows, and Linux. The only problem I experience is the one that started this thread, I have to use autohotkey to remap the right alt to be the insert key. Reporting that I wanted to use capslock as a modifier to the Jump Desktop developer got me brushed off. So much for input.

 

                Obviously, there are two types of output which are of interest to a totally blind user, audio and braille. I need both. There are several solutions for audio. On the intranet, or anywhere else where I am not interested in how much data is sent/received, I use soundwire for Android

http://georgielabs.net/

                This produces very low-latency (latency is adjustable), high-quality audio and sends it to an Android phone. It sends all audio from the PC, so NVDA’s audio is sent just like everything else. It works with the cheapest Android devices, I have installed and used it on the cheapest Amazon Fire.

                For networks where I do care how much data is used, or when I want the sound coming out of an iOS device, I use TeamTalk

http://bearware.dk/

                I just have TeamTalk take its input from stereo mix. This gives low-latency good quality audio but uses less data than Soundwire.  

                Finally, in the case of a bad internet connection or when I want to use almost no data, I will send the audio over a phone line with, just for example, MicroSip

http://www.microsip.org

                taking its input from stereo mix. This sends very low quality audio with fairly low latency. Note that the quality is so low that I can’t use it most of the time due to hearing issues, but when I can use it, it is the cheapest method given that phone minutes are very often unlimited. All of these methods allow one to use the computer with latency low enough to type with “speak typed characters” on. It is, in my experience, usable as if you were in front of the computer, certainly over the local network and over the vast majority of remote networks (Edge and 3G networks excluded).

 

Finally, as for braille, I have found only one solution which works from a mobile device

http://www.virtualhere.com

allows a USB device, like a braille display, to be accessed over a network. I can connect my display to Android via USB, or connect a USB Bluetooth adapter to an Android phone, and it will display braille and take input through its keyboard for NVDA. Latency isn’t a problem, and NVDA will detect the display quickly and easily. Note that VirtualHere is the only remote access solution which works with Jaws from a mobile device for input, whether through a braille keyboard or through a normal/Bluetooth one. NVDA will happily, as I said, take input through VNC. Jaws will not, I’m not sure about Narrator. I suspect, but have not actually tested, that Dragon and Dictation Bridge can be used over TeamTalk for input/output and this form of interaction will also work with NVDA and Jaws. I am sure this works over the phone.

                I hope that summary is of use.

Aman

 

 

 

 

                 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of The Wolf
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2018 11:38 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA key to be assignable to any key

 

didn't know vnc had audio support and worked with a screen reader can u please email me off list and let me know what your set up is?

Hank