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Re: Is WordPress content management accessible?

 

Yes, with NVDA it's perfectly accessible. I'm writing to a blog right now and I couldn't like more the platform.
It's too easy, I'm sure you'll like it too.

Em 14/10/2018 03:54, John J. Boyer escreveu:

Thanks,
John


Is WordPress content management accessible?

John J. Boyer
 

Thanks,
John

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Re: No voice, Power Point Slide Show view on Laptop with HDMI connected, NVDA restart fixes problem

 

Well to be honest that issue can happen if you switch sound cards, then switch them back.

If you go to audio output you can probably select a device.

I have noticed this when pulling out a  device and not switching it back.

I don't usually have that issue on windows but I have had instances where a user set sound on a spaciffic device for special reason and it stayed there.

It would stay there till I used that device to switch back.

Thats fine if that device existed at all and or I could plug my external card in and switch back.

I could get a sightling to switch back.

But its happened a lot on my system where a user would use it for something and switch my sound.

A full reformat is needed to get sound back and I have banned anyone for doodling with my system.

If they do and mess it up I reformat and rage at that user but thats not happened for ages.

On 10/14/2018 8:42 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
No it sounds like something is telling nvda there is no sound device at all, which is definitely weird when you consider its just powerpoint, part of Office and one might consider all the audio parts are probably shared.

This sounds like an issue needs to be raised. I'd suspect nobody has tried a tv via hdmi so would not spot it. The fact that it is still giving sound but not nvda.
What happens if you open that windows dialogue that shows each sound generating bit of software and its volume like on windows 7, I assume that is in 10.
I did see somebody describe  Windows 10 audio as a bit of a dogs dinner, which definitely does not sound good.


Unfortunately looking on the back of my pc I do not have an hdmi socket. so...

Brian

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To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2018 5:21 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] No voice, Power Point Slide Show view on Laptop with HDMI connected, NVDA restart fixes problem


Hello Brian:

I tried to replicate the problem here at home. Since I do not have a
projector, I used at TV instead. The computer is set to duplicate the
desktop on the second screen (i.e. the TV).

In this case, when I start the computer with the HDMI connector connected,
all sounds are played on the TV instead of the internal speakers, including
NVDA speech. However, when I start the slide show, NVDA goes silent as I
navigate through the slides, but Narrator happily plays it limited
information about each slide. I also added slide transition sounds to my
presentation and they play on the TV while NVDA remains silent. However,
once I restart NVDA, NVDA reads the slides as expected.

Therefore, I do not think this is a sound mapping issue.

Rick

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Subject: Re: [nvda] No voice, Power Point Slide Show view on Laptop with
HDMI connected, NVDA restart fixes problem

Do all sounds go away, or just nvda. I was wondering if the sound was going
to hdmi.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Rick" <softwarethatworks@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2018 8:31 PM
Subject: [nvda] No voice, Power Point Slide Show view on Laptop with HDMI
connected, NVDA restart fixes problem


I have 2 high-end Lenovo laptops with nVidia graphics cards. Both are
running Windows 10 Professional and Office 365 desktop apps. One
computer  is  brand new while the other is 3 years old. These are work
computers, so  Windows and Office are updated within the last few
months and not  necessarily running the absolute latest updates. I am
running the latest  released version of NVDA and have no addin present.
I have Microsoft  Speech  API Version 5 as my voice.



If connected to projectors using the HDMI port, putting a Power Point
presentation into slide show mode (by pressing the F5 key) I lose all
speech output on that particular window. It doesn't matter if I am
using the internal speakers or am connected to a wired or wireless
headset. Alt tabbing to other windows and NVDA speaks just fine, but
not on the slide show window. Moving from slide to slide produces no
speech. If the HDMI connection is not present, NVDA speaks just fine
in slide show mode.



If I now restart NVDA with Power Point still displaying the slide show
and the HDMI connection still present, everything works as expected.
NVDA reads the slides as I navigate from slide to slide, using the
internal speakers or connected headset.



I tried restarting NVDA after booting the computer to see if it was a
problem with the autostart of NVDA completing prior to other parts of
the system completing initialization, but it still failed to speak in
slide show window until restarting NVDA after launching Power Point.



Rick















Re: Microsoft word question

Pranav Lal
 

Hi,

Microsoft Word does display the line number on the status bar. You can read
the status bar with NVDA and get that information. Please see the following
link for details on Word's line number display.
https://word.tips.net/T001412_What_Line_Am_I_On.html

You do not need to enable NVDA's reporting of line numbers.

Pranav


Re: No voice, Power Point Slide Show view on Laptop with HDMI connected, NVDA restart fixes problem

Pranav Lal
 

Rick,

Set your output device in NVDA specifically which should solve the problem.
I think the usual setting is microsoft sound mapper. Set the output device
to your internal sound card. That way, when your computer begins sending
audio over HDMI, NVDA will continue speaking through the internal sound
card.

Pranav


Re: Accessibility improvements to groups.io

 

Robert,

        Groups.io is Mark's baby, and has been from the start.  Read his "history of how I got here":  https://wingedpig.com/2014/09/23/introducing-groups-io/

        Unfortunately I don't use practically anything but the online forum feature and, on rare occasions, the member directory.  And I don't use those routinely with a screen reader.

--

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    The psychology of adultery has been falsified by conventional morals, which assume, in monogamous countries, that attraction to one person cannot co-exist with a serious affection for another.  Everybody knows that this is untrue. . .

           ~ Bertrand Russell

 

 


Re: Microsoft word question

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi


Not sure about a shortcut for reporting which line you are on but there is a setting under document formatting called line numbers which would need to be checked to report a line. There may be a setting under the input gestures in nvda.


Just checked and there is and it looks as though you can asign a key for it to to toggle it on and off. Not some thing i have used for a long time.

So not sure when it is on it says the number but guess it would and when off you do not hear it at all.


Gene nz

that may allow you to assign one? 


On 13/10/2018 10:27 PM, Angelo Sonnesso wrote:
Is there a way to fine out what line you are on in your document?
In Jaws when you press insert/caps lock plus period it tells you the line
number you are on.
Thanks

73 N2DYN Angelo






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braille extender crashing?

David Csercsics <bleeblat@...>
 

Has anyone else seen crashes with the Braille Extender add-on and NVDA 2018.3.2? I just got this braille display and this looked kind of neat. I’m using a Brailliant BI 40.

 


Re: daisy book reader

Chris Mullins
 

Hi

You could try www.daisy.org/amis/download a daisy reader I used a few years ago which I believe is free.

 

 

Cheers

Chris

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 13 October 2018 18:24
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] daisy book reader

 

Try installing a JAWS demo and see if the reader works with whatever screen-reader you want to use.  It is far from settled that it can't be run if JAWS is installed as a demo.  There have been contradictory reports.

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Mallard

Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2018 11:47 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] daisy book reader

 

Hello here,


What about a free Daisy reader for those poor users who haven't got Jaws
on their pcs? Is there anything available?


Thanks, ciao,

Ollie





Il 13/10/2018 16:16, Richard Wells ha scritto:
>
> I just ran FSReader as well and it runs fine with NVDA running.
>
>
> On 10/13/2018 3:48 AM, David Griffith wrote:
>>
>> This is strange.
>>
>> I have just gone back  and run FS Reader without any issue using the
>> latest NVDA release.
>>
>> I have Jaws 18 and 19 Beta installed on this system though.
>>
>> It may be that the software now checks for a Jaws licence even if it
>> is not running.
>>
>> If this is so I am sorry for misleading the list as I was unaware of
>> this change.
>>
>> David Griffith
>>
>> My Blind Access and Guide dog Blog
>> http://dgriffithblog.wordpress.com/
>> My Blind hammer Blog
>> https://www.westhamtillidie.com/authors/blind-hammer/posts
>>
>> *From: *Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
>> <mailto:bglists@...>
>> *Sent: *13 October 2018 08:35
>> *To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>> *Subject: *Re: [nvda] daisy book reader
>>
>> You say that but I did this and tried to use it and it said you have
>> to have
>>
>> Jaws running to use this software.
>>
>> That did not used to happen before this year.
>>
>> Brian
>>
>> bglists@...
>>
>> Sent via blueyonder.
>>
>> Please address personal E-mail to:-
>>
>> briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
>>
>> in the display name field.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>
>> From: "David Griffith" <daj.griffith@...>
>>
>> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>>
>> Sent: Friday, October 12, 2018 4:31 PM
>>
>> Subject: Re: [nvda] daisy book reader
>>
>> FS Reader works fine in NVDA.
>>
>> Just install Jaws and let it alone and run FS Reader and use it withNVDA.
>>
>> David Griffith
>>
>> My Blind Access and Guide dog Blog
>>
>> http://dgriffithblog.wordpress.com/
>>
>> My Blind hammer Blog
>>
>> https://www.westhamtillidie.com/authors/blind-hammer/posts
>>
>> From: Robert Doc Wright godfearer
>>
>> Sent: 12 October 2018 16:21
>>
>> To: NVDA
>>
>> Subject: [nvda] daisy book reader
>>
>> Is there a reader similar to jaws fsReader for NVDA?
>>
>
>



Re: No voice, Power Point Slide Show view on Laptop with HDMI connected, NVDA restart fixes problem

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

No it sounds like something is telling nvda there is no sound device at all, which is definitely weird when you consider its just powerpoint, part of Office and one might consider all the audio parts are probably shared.

This sounds like an issue needs to be raised. I'd suspect nobody has tried a tv via hdmi so would not spot it. The fact that it is still giving sound but not nvda.
What happens if you open that windows dialogue that shows each sound generating bit of software and its volume like on windows 7, I assume that is in 10.
I did see somebody describe Windows 10 audio as a bit of a dogs dinner, which definitely does not sound good.


Unfortunately looking on the back of my pc I do not have an hdmi socket. so...

Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Rick" <softwarethatworks@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2018 5:21 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] No voice, Power Point Slide Show view on Laptop with HDMI connected, NVDA restart fixes problem


Hello Brian:

I tried to replicate the problem here at home. Since I do not have a
projector, I used at TV instead. The computer is set to duplicate the
desktop on the second screen (i.e. the TV).

In this case, when I start the computer with the HDMI connector connected,
all sounds are played on the TV instead of the internal speakers, including
NVDA speech. However, when I start the slide show, NVDA goes silent as I
navigate through the slides, but Narrator happily plays it limited
information about each slide. I also added slide transition sounds to my
presentation and they play on the TV while NVDA remains silent. However,
once I restart NVDA, NVDA reads the slides as expected.

Therefore, I do not think this is a sound mapping issue.

Rick

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian's Mail
list account via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2018 3:51 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] No voice, Power Point Slide Show view on Laptop with
HDMI connected, NVDA restart fixes problem

Do all sounds go away, or just nvda. I was wondering if the sound was going
to hdmi.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Rick" <softwarethatworks@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2018 8:31 PM
Subject: [nvda] No voice, Power Point Slide Show view on Laptop with HDMI
connected, NVDA restart fixes problem


I have 2 high-end Lenovo laptops with nVidia graphics cards. Both are
running Windows 10 Professional and Office 365 desktop apps. One
computer is brand new while the other is 3 years old. These are work
computers, so Windows and Office are updated within the last few
months and not necessarily running the absolute latest updates. I am
running the latest released version of NVDA and have no addin present.
I have Microsoft Speech API Version 5 as my voice.



If connected to projectors using the HDMI port, putting a Power Point
presentation into slide show mode (by pressing the F5 key) I lose all
speech output on that particular window. It doesn't matter if I am
using the internal speakers or am connected to a wired or wireless
headset. Alt tabbing to other windows and NVDA speaks just fine, but
not on the slide show window. Moving from slide to slide produces no
speech. If the HDMI connection is not present, NVDA speaks just fine
in slide show mode.



If I now restart NVDA with Power Point still displaying the slide show
and the HDMI connection still present, everything works as expected.
NVDA reads the slides as I navigate from slide to slide, using the
internal speakers or connected headset.



I tried restarting NVDA after booting the computer to see if it was a
problem with the autostart of NVDA completing prior to other parts of
the system completing initialization, but it still failed to speak in
slide show window until restarting NVDA after launching Power Point.



Rick












Re: Accessibility improvements to groups.io

 

Does anyone else have any specific accessibility issues with the site? I've been trying to create a document or something that I, we, can then share with Mark. I thought Mark had a team? You mean to tell me that he made this site all by himself? That's amazing! I've been looking for more unlabeled edit boxes and combo boxes all day, but I can't find any, except for the composing a message edit box. Does anyone else have any observations? I'm trying to write down the various fixes Mark can do to the Calendar but I am running out of ideas. Anyone else have input?


Re: daisy book reader

Gene
 

Try installing a JAWS demo and see if the reader works with whatever screen-reader you want to use.  It is far from settled that it can't be run if JAWS is installed as a demo.  There have been contradictory reports.
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Mallard
Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2018 11:47 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] daisy book reader

Hello here,


What about a free Daisy reader for those poor users who haven't got Jaws
on their pcs? Is there anything available?


Thanks, ciao,

Ollie





Il 13/10/2018 16:16, Richard Wells ha scritto:
>
> I just ran FSReader as well and it runs fine with NVDA running.
>
>
> On 10/13/2018 3:48 AM, David Griffith wrote:
>>
>> This is strange.
>>
>> I have just gone back  and run FS Reader without any issue using the
>> latest NVDA release.
>>
>> I have Jaws 18 and 19 Beta installed on this system though.
>>
>> It may be that the software now checks for a Jaws licence even if it
>> is not running.
>>
>> If this is so I am sorry for misleading the list as I was unaware of
>> this change.
>>
>> David Griffith
>>
>> My Blind Access and Guide dog Blog
>> http://dgriffithblog.wordpress.com/
>> My Blind hammer Blog
>> https://www.westhamtillidie.com/authors/blind-hammer/posts
>>
>> *From: *Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
>> <mailto:bglists@...>
>> *Sent: *13 October 2018 08:35
>> *To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>> *Subject: *Re: [nvda] daisy book reader
>>
>> You say that but I did this and tried to use it and it said you have
>> to have
>>
>> Jaws running to use this software.
>>
>> That did not used to happen before this year.
>>
>> Brian
>>
>> bglists@...
>>
>> Sent via blueyonder.
>>
>> Please address personal E-mail to:-
>>
>> briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
>>
>> in the display name field.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>
>> From: "David Griffith" <daj.griffith@...>
>>
>> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>>
>> Sent: Friday, October 12, 2018 4:31 PM
>>
>> Subject: Re: [nvda] daisy book reader
>>
>> FS Reader works fine in NVDA.
>>
>> Just install Jaws and let it alone and run FS Reader and use it withNVDA.
>>
>> David Griffith
>>
>> My Blind Access and Guide dog Blog
>>
>> http://dgriffithblog.wordpress.com/
>>
>> My Blind hammer Blog
>>
>> https://www.westhamtillidie.com/authors/blind-hammer/posts
>>
>> From: Robert Doc Wright godfearer
>>
>> Sent: 12 October 2018 16:21
>>
>> To: NVDA
>>
>> Subject: [nvda] daisy book reader
>>
>> Is there a reader similar to jaws fsReader for NVDA?
>>
>
>




Re: daisy book reader

Mallard
 

Hello here,


What about a free Daisy reader for those poor users who haven't got Jaws on their pcs? Is there anything available?


Thanks, ciao,

Ollie

Il 13/10/2018 16:16, Richard Wells ha scritto:

I just ran FSReader as well and it runs fine with NVDA running.


On 10/13/2018 3:48 AM, David Griffith wrote:

This is strange.

I have just gone back  and run FS Reader without any issue using the latest NVDA release.

I have Jaws 18 and 19 Beta installed on this system though.

It may be that the software now checks for a Jaws licence even if it is not running.

If this is so I am sorry for misleading the list as I was unaware of this change.

David Griffith

My Blind Access and Guide dog Blog
http://dgriffithblog.wordpress.com/
My Blind hammer Blog
https://www.westhamtillidie.com/authors/blind-hammer/posts

*From: *Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io <mailto:bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io>
*Sent: *13 October 2018 08:35
*To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject: *Re: [nvda] daisy book reader

You say that but I did this and tried to use it and it said you have to have

Jaws running to use this software.

That did not used to happen before this year.

Brian

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----- Original Message -----

From: "David Griffith" <daj.griffith@gmail.com>

To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>

Sent: Friday, October 12, 2018 4:31 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] daisy book reader

FS Reader works fine in NVDA.

Just install Jaws and let it alone and run FS Reader and use it withNVDA.

David Griffith

My Blind Access and Guide dog Blog

http://dgriffithblog.wordpress.com/

My Blind hammer Blog

https://www.westhamtillidie.com/authors/blind-hammer/posts

From: Robert Doc Wright godfearer

Sent: 12 October 2018 16:21

To: NVDA

Subject: [nvda] daisy book reader

Is there a reader similar to jaws fsReader for NVDA?


Re: No voice, Power Point Slide Show view on Laptop with HDMI connected, NVDA restart fixes problem

Rick
 

Hello Brian:

I tried to replicate the problem here at home. Since I do not have a
projector, I used at TV instead. The computer is set to duplicate the
desktop on the second screen (i.e. the TV).

In this case, when I start the computer with the HDMI connector connected,
all sounds are played on the TV instead of the internal speakers, including
NVDA speech. However, when I start the slide show, NVDA goes silent as I
navigate through the slides, but Narrator happily plays it limited
information about each slide. I also added slide transition sounds to my
presentation and they play on the TV while NVDA remains silent. However,
once I restart NVDA, NVDA reads the slides as expected.

Therefore, I do not think this is a sound mapping issue.

Rick

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian's Mail
list account via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2018 3:51 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] No voice, Power Point Slide Show view on Laptop with
HDMI connected, NVDA restart fixes problem

Do all sounds go away, or just nvda. I was wondering if the sound was going
to hdmi.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Rick" <softwarethatworks@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2018 8:31 PM
Subject: [nvda] No voice, Power Point Slide Show view on Laptop with HDMI
connected, NVDA restart fixes problem


I have 2 high-end Lenovo laptops with nVidia graphics cards. Both are
running Windows 10 Professional and Office 365 desktop apps. One
computer is brand new while the other is 3 years old. These are work
computers, so Windows and Office are updated within the last few
months and not necessarily running the absolute latest updates. I am
running the latest released version of NVDA and have no addin present.
I have Microsoft Speech API Version 5 as my voice.



If connected to projectors using the HDMI port, putting a Power Point
presentation into slide show mode (by pressing the F5 key) I lose all
speech output on that particular window. It doesn't matter if I am
using the internal speakers or am connected to a wired or wireless
headset. Alt tabbing to other windows and NVDA speaks just fine, but
not on the slide show window. Moving from slide to slide produces no
speech. If the HDMI connection is not present, NVDA speaks just fine
in slide show mode.



If I now restart NVDA with Power Point still displaying the slide show
and the HDMI connection still present, everything works as expected.
NVDA reads the slides as I navigate from slide to slide, using the
internal speakers or connected headset.



I tried restarting NVDA after booting the computer to see if it was a
problem with the autostart of NVDA completing prior to other parts of
the system completing initialization, but it still failed to speak in
slide show window until restarting NVDA after launching Power Point.



Rick







Re: No voice, Power Point Slide Show view on Laptop with HDMI connected, NVDA restart fixes problem

Rick
 

Hello Mike:

Are you experiencing the same Condition as me?

I tried closing the slide show and reopening as you suggested with no change. NVDA still will not speak when the slide show window is active. However, it speaks when I alt+tab away from that window.

Rick

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike Sedmak
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2018 5:52 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] No voice, Power Point Slide Show view on Laptop with HDMI connected, NVDA restart fixes problem

Have you tried
Use f5 to start the slideshow
Use ESCAPE to close the slideshow
Use F5 again to start the slideshow

I find that starting the slideshow a second time works more consistently than the first try.

On 10/12/18, Rick <softwarethatworks@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello Joseph:



I will look into this as I try to replicate the problem using a TV
monitor instead of a projector and see if the sound actually gets rerouted.
However,
this only happens on the Power Point Slide Show window. All other
windows continue speaking out the default speaker. I would think that
all speech would be rerouted and not just the slide show.
Additionally, once I restart NVDA, I can open and close Power Point
and the speech continues to come out the default speaker when starting a slide show.



Also, Narrator does not exhibit this problem.



Rick



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph
Lee
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2018 3:37 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] No voice, Power Point Slide Show view on Laptop
with HDMI connected, NVDA restart fixes problem



Hi,

This may have to do with audio output redirection: when an HDMI cable
is connected, sound is sent through the cable, so NVDA may not
recognize that you've still got your internal sound card active. You
can ask NVDA to speak through a chosen sound card via
Synthesizer/output device combo box (Control+NVDA+S).

Cheers,

Joseph



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
<nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Rick
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2018 12:32 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] No voice, Power Point Slide Show view on Laptop with
HDMI connected, NVDA restart fixes problem



I have 2 high-end Lenovo laptops with nVidia graphics cards. Both are
running Windows 10 Professional and Office 365 desktop apps. One
computer is brand new while the other is 3 years old. These are work
computers, so Windows and Office are updated within the last few
months and not necessarily running the absolute latest updates. I am
running the latest released version of NVDA and have no addin present.
I have Microsoft Speech API Version 5 as my voice.



If connected to projectors using the HDMI port, putting a Power Point
presentation into slide show mode (by pressing the F5 key) I lose all
speech output on that particular window. It doesn't matter if I am
using the internal speakers or am connected to a wired or wireless
headset. Alt tabbing to other windows and NVDA speaks just fine, but
not on the slide show window. Moving from slide to slide produces no
speech. If the HDMI connection is not present, NVDA speaks just fine
in slide show mode.



If I now restart NVDA with Power Point still displaying the slide show
and the HDMI connection still present, everything works as expected.
NVDA reads the slides as I navigate from slide to slide, using the
internal speakers or connected headset.



I tried restarting NVDA after booting the computer to see if it was a
problem with the autostart of NVDA completing prior to other parts of
the system completing initialization, but it still failed to speak in
slide show window until restarting NVDA after launching Power Point.



Rick









Re: Microsoft word question

Angelo Sonnesso
 

Thanks

 

73 N2DYN Angelo

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sociohack AC
Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2018 5:49 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Microsoft word question

 

The only way to do this in NVDA is to check the check box for line numbers in document formatting. Go to NVDA menu> preferences> document formatting> check box for line numbers.
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Regards,
Sociohack


Re: daisy book reader

Richard Wells
 

I just ran FSReader as well and it runs fine with NVDA running.


On 10/13/2018 3:48 AM, David Griffith wrote:

 

This is strange.

I have just gone back  and run FS Reader without any issue using the latest NVDA release.

I have Jaws 18 and 19 Beta installed on this system though.

It may be that the software now checks  for a Jaws licence even if it is not running.

If this is so I am sorry for misleading the list as I was unaware of this change.

David Griffith

 

My Blind Access and Guide dog Blog
http://dgriffithblog.wordpress.com/
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https://www.westhamtillidie.com/authors/blind-hammer/posts

 

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Sent: 13 October 2018 08:35
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] daisy book reader

 

You say that but I did this and tried to use it and it said you have to have

Jaws running to use this software.

That did not used to happen before this year.

Brian

 

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Sent: Friday, October 12, 2018 4:31 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] daisy book reader

 

 

FS Reader works fine in NVDA.

Just install Jaws and let it alone and run FS Reader and use it withNVDA.

David Griffith

 

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My Blind hammer Blog

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Sent: 12 October 2018 16:21

To: NVDA

Subject: [nvda] daisy book reader

 

Is there a reader similar to jaws fsReader for NVDA?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 



Re: Hi

Rui Fontes
 

Yes, it allows that...

Rui Fontes


Às 11:21 de 13/10/2018, Gene escreveu:

Virtualizing a Window in JAWS doesn't allow you to click something.  It does allow you to copy material from the virtualized window so you can paste it somewhere.  This is useful when you want to paste content from an error message into an e-mail describing the error to someone, as an example of one use.
Does the add-on allow copying to the clipboard of selected material? Whether it does or not, NVDA has its own way of doing this.
Gene
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*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Hi
The questions are then, does having the add on stop the old commands from
working
 Does the new virtualised window offer any of the operations like clicking
of the inbuilt system
 If it does do this, then is it maybe better?
 Is there anything that it can do that the navigation modes cannot. I seem
to recall that its still not as good as the Jaws version.
 Brian
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From: "Rui Fontes" <rui.fontes@tiflotecnia.com <mailto:rui.fontes@tiflotecnia.com>>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>>
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2018 9:37 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Hi

> Hi!
>
> I was the mentor of this addon initially developed by Rui Batista and
> currently maintained by Joseph Lee...
>
> I do not agree that it will force the users to do not learn NVDA review
> tools, but it will be usefull untill they learn...
> And it is also usefull to users coming from Jaws...
>
> Rui
>
>
>
> Às 19:19 de 12/10/2018, Gene escreveu:
>> However, does using this add--on discourage learning how to use
>> screen-review commands in NVDA? and does this lack of learning mean
that,
>> when it is advisable to use the activate command available on the
numpad
>> or to use the route and click virtual mouse commands NVDA provides, the
>> user won't know how to do these things? This may be an add-on that
>> duplicates functions already available in NVDA where the user would be
>> much better off learning the NVDA way to do things if the user if at
all
>> demanding and who wishshes to go beyond rather elementary learning.
Also,
>> some NVDA review commands are essential for working with Windows 10
apps.
>> It sounds like a bad idea to have such an add-on that discourages
>> learning of the screen-reader itself.
>> Gene
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> *From:* Chris Mullins <mailto:cjmullins29@gmail.com>
>> *Sent:* Friday, October 12, 2018 1:12 PM
>> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] Hi
>>
>> Hi
>> Download and install the Virtual review addon then you can use
>> NVDA+Control+w to virtualise a window then browse it using arrow keys.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Chris
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>> [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Michael
>> Munn
>> Sent: 12 October 2018 16:49
>> To: nvda@groups.io <mailto:nvda@groups.io> <mailto:nvda@groups.io>
>> Subject: [nvda] Hi
>>
>> Hi all, This is Michael. i have a question about a feature in NVDA.
>> How can one virtualize a window using NVDA? I'm asking that because
>> yesterday I was doing something with NVDa and some error message pop up
>> and
>> I couldn't read it because I don't know how to virtualize the message.
>> I would be able to read it if I use Jaws. I'm not saying bad thing
about
>> the
>> nvda Screen reader.
>> Please help if you all can.
>> Best Regards Michael Munn
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>


Re: Tooltips

Vlad Dragomir
 

This made things a lot clearer, thank you for explaining!

Vlad.


Re: Tooltips

Gene
 

I'm not sure if web pages display tooltips, as being discussed.  there are some controls on some web pages that will do something such as open a menu or display information somewhere on a page if a mouse is hovered over the control.  Most of the time, these don't matter enough to worry about.  At times, they do and you may need a function like the JAWS mouse over function to work with that function of such controls. 
 
But you may find that, by moving the mouse in NVDA over certain controls on certain web sites, you may hear something read as the screen changes.  But NVDA doesn't identify such controls and it is not at all convenient to work with such controls if they display anything important.  You don't know where the screen changed and you don't know if you've heard everything read.  If you use the mouse over feature in JAWS, it tells you where the page changed, such as line 11.  there is a jump to line feature in JAWS.  Then you can jump back to where you were originally after you look at the area consisting of line 11 and anything below it that may have changed.  This feature works with links.  I don't know if any other controls function in this way.  But in my experience, mouse over links seldom do anything important and the feature, though it is useful at times, is only useful a very small amount of the time.  in other words, I generally don't worry about whether a page has such links or other controls.  Though whether NVDA should have such a feature may be a good topic for discussion because even though rare, such a feature may allow you to do things on a page you can't otherwise.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2018 6:23 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Tooltips

Definitely, it works quite consistently on the desktop and when
files/folders are selected. My main concern was specifically related to
web pages. Sorry for not emphasising it, I realise now I should have
done so.

Vlad.