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A page that doesn't display on Firefox

Cleverson Casarin Uliana
 

Hi all, those using the latest Firefox 60.2 and NVDA 2018.3.2, could you please visit the following web page to see whether it displays any content? Here it is completely blank. In Waterfox and IE, its content displays normally:
https://publicacoes.empiricus.com.br/

Thanks,
Cleverson


Re: daisy book reader

Mallard
 

Thanks. I think I did try that a few months ago, but I had problems with it. I must try again.

Ciao,

Ollie

Il 13/10/2018 21:48, Chris Mullins ha scritto:

Hi

You could try www.daisy.org/amis/download <http://www.daisy.org/amis/download> a daisy reader I used a few years ago which I believe is free.

Cheers

Chris

*From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] *On Behalf Of *Gene
*Sent:* 13 October 2018 18:24
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] daisy book reader

Try installing a JAWS demo and see if the reader works with whatever screen-reader you want to use.  It is far from settled that it can't be run if JAWS is installed as a demo.  There have been contradictory reports.

Gene

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*From:*Mallard <mailto:mallard@...>

*Sent:*Saturday, October 13, 2018 11:47 AM

*To:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

*Subject:*Re: [nvda] daisy book reader

Hello here,


What about a free Daisy reader for those poor users who haven't got Jaws
on their pcs? Is there anything available?


Thanks, ciao,

Ollie





Il 13/10/2018 16:16, Richard Wells ha scritto:

I just ran FSReader as well and it runs fine with NVDA running.


On 10/13/2018 3:48 AM, David Griffith wrote:

This is strange.

I have just gone back  and run FS Reader without any issue using the
latest NVDA release.

I have Jaws 18 and 19 Beta installed on this system though.

It may be that the software now checks for a Jaws licence even if it
is not running.

If this is so I am sorry for misleading the list as I was unaware of
this change.

David Griffith

My Blind Access and Guide dog Blog
http://dgriffithblog.wordpress.com/
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<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject: *Re: [nvda] daisy book reader

You say that but I did this and tried to use it and it said you have
to have

Jaws running to use this software.

That did not used to happen before this year.

Brian

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To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>>

Sent: Friday, October 12, 2018 4:31 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] daisy book reader

FS Reader works fine in NVDA.

Just install Jaws and let it alone and run FS Reader and use it
withNVDA.

David Griffith

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From: Robert Doc Wright godfearer

Sent: 12 October 2018 16:21

To: NVDA

Subject: [nvda] daisy book reader

Is there a reader similar to jaws fsReader for NVDA?


Re: daisy book reader

Mallard
 

Ah... That would be great, thanks!


If there's a link from which it can be downloaded, I can grab it. But I don't think I found it as a standalone app.

Ciao,

Ollie

Il 14/10/2018 12:16, john s ha scritto:
Ollie, somebody can send you FS Reader.  You don't have to have JFW for it to work.

At 12:47 PM 10/13/2018, Mallard, wrote:
Hello here,


What about a free Daisy reader for those poor users who haven't got Jaws on their pcs? Is there anything available?


Thanks, ciao,

Ollie





Il 13/10/2018 16:16, Richard Wells ha scritto:

I just ran FSReader as well and it runs fine with NVDA running.


On 10/13/2018 3:48 AM, David Griffith wrote:

This is strange.

I have just gone back  and run FS Reader without any issue using the latest NVDA release.

I have Jaws 18 and 19 Beta installed on this system though.

It may be that the software now checks for a Jaws licence even if it is not running.

If this is so I am sorry for misleading the list as I was unaware of this change.

David Griffith

My Blind Access and Guide dog Blog
http://dgriffithblog.wordpress.com/
My Blind hammer Blog
https://www.westhamtillidie.com/authors/blind-hammer/posts

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*To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject: *Re: [nvda] daisy book reader

You say that but I did this and tried to use it and it said you have to have

Jaws running to use this software.

That did not used to happen before this year.

Brian

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From: "David Griffith" <daj.griffith@...>

To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>

Sent: Friday, October 12, 2018 4:31 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] daisy book reader

FS Reader works fine in NVDA.

Just install Jaws and let it alone and run FS Reader and use it withNVDA.

David Griffith

My Blind Access and Guide dog Blog

http://dgriffithblog.wordpress.com/

My Blind hammer Blog

https://www.westhamtillidie.com/authors/blind-hammer/posts

From: Robert Doc Wright godfearer

Sent: 12 October 2018 16:21

To: NVDA

Subject: [nvda] daisy book reader

Is there a reader similar to jaws fsReader for NVDA?

                John




Re: Is WordPress content management accessible?

Jackie
 

As I mentioned previously, John, WordPress at core level conforms to
WCAG 2.0AA standard.

On 10/14/18, marcio via Groups.Io <marcinhorj21=yahoo.com.br@groups.io> wrote:
Yes, with NVDA it's perfectly accessible. I'm writing to a blog right
now and I couldn't like more the platform.
It's too easy, I'm sure you'll like it too.

Em 14/10/2018 03:54, John J. Boyer escreveu:
Thanks,
John



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Re: NVDA Snapshot types

Afik Suffir <afik.sofir@...>
 

 

 

Hello,

 

Can I test the  Alpha version?

 its updating automatically?

 

Afik souffir.

 

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2018 1:12 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Snapshot types

 

While I don't disagree with you, most of the errors and issues which have required additional RC's and stable releases, have been from issues which do not affect everyone, but for those they affect, they would manifest very quickly.  Which is why we get these reports almost immediately after releasing the new version.

 

I think then, that the issue is not so much the length of time of the beta cycle, but how do we get more people, on different systems, to try the betas earlier?

 

 

 

On Fri, Oct 12, 2018 at 7:24 PM Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io <bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:

Yes I have a portable running on Alpha, but I seem to recall that before the
renaming you also allowed beta snaps to be put up much earlier, as five
weeks sounds a short time for the great unwashed like myself to have enough
experience of a running everyday version to find the more obscure things. I
think the release record of the last version shows this to be true as there
had to be many more iterations of the RC and finally a couple of updates to
stable. If you look back when the beta length was longer you find fewer
versions after a stable was issued.
 In a way I think many programmers underestimate the time needed to fully
test increasingly complex code.
 I used to know a person whose first test of any software was to randomly do
stuff on the keyboard and you would be surprised how often such an
apparently random act would thro up a problem with the software crashing.



Just my opinion of 68 years on the planet.
 Brian

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Cc: <nvda@groups.io>
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2018 12:51 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Snapshot types


> Hi Brian,
>
> Apologies if you've asked this before and I missed it :)
>
> The new release process is that Alpha builds come out quite regularly,
> every few days or sometimes several in a day, like the old "next"
> snapshots
> did.
>
> The key point about Beta releases is: "
>
>   - Starting from 5 weeks before final release, tagged beta releases will
>   be published periodically, allowing the wider community to try out the
>   betas. At this stage code originally introduced through master will have
>   been tested for at least 2 weeks, thus the beta builds can be seen as
> beta
>   quality."
>
> So, if you are interested in testing the latest "bleeding edge" code which
> gets updated regularly, then you want the Alpha snapshots (with the usual
> caveat that while they usually work fine, they may not be completely
> stable
> or work in every situation - in which case please let us know, and also
> keep a stable build handy).
>
> If you want a more reliably stable experience but still want to test out
> new features before the masses, Beta should have you covered for that and
> you'll start to get those about 5 weeks before a new release is due (the
> last beta cycle was longer, being the first time we'd changed to that
> system).
>
> All the snapshots are available from the snapshots page at:
> https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/snapshots/
>
> If you'd like to read the release process in full, you can find it here:
> https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/wiki/ReleaseProcess
>
> Kind regards
>
> Quentin.
>
> On Fri, Oct 12, 2018 at 5:54 AM Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
> <bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:
>
>> I know I asked a similar question before, but looking at the  email list
>> of
>> different snap releases I see alpha and beta, yet on the snapshot web
>> site
>> it seems only alpha have updated, the beta is showing  rc versions of the
>> last stable release. Am I missing something here, or are betas not
>> actually
>> on the site?
>>  Brian
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Re: daisy book reader

john s
 

Ollie, somebody can send you FS Reader. You don't have to have JFW for it to work.

At 12:47 PM 10/13/2018, Mallard, wrote:
Hello here,


What about a free Daisy reader for those poor users who haven't got Jaws on their pcs? Is there anything available?


Thanks, ciao,

Ollie





Il 13/10/2018 16:16, Richard Wells ha scritto:

I just ran FSReader as well and it runs fine with NVDA running.


On 10/13/2018 3:48 AM, David Griffith wrote:

This is strange.

I have just gone back  and run FS Reader without any issue using the latest NVDA release.

I have Jaws 18 and 19 Beta installed on this system though.

It may be that the software now checks for a Jaws licence even if it is not running.

If this is so I am sorry for misleading the list as I was unaware of this change.

David Griffith

My Blind Access and Guide dog Blog
http://dgriffithblog.wordpress.com/
My Blind hammer Blog
https://www.westhamtillidie.com/authors/blind-hammer/posts

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*Sent: *13 October 2018 08:35
*To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject: *Re: [nvda] daisy book reader

You say that but I did this and tried to use it and it said you have to have

Jaws running to use this software.

That did not used to happen before this year.

Brian

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----- Original Message -----

From: "David Griffith" <daj.griffith@...>

To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>

Sent: Friday, October 12, 2018 4:31 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] daisy book reader

FS Reader works fine in NVDA.

Just install Jaws and let it alone and run FS Reader and use it withNVDA.

David Griffith

My Blind Access and Guide dog Blog

http://dgriffithblog.wordpress.com/

My Blind hammer Blog

https://www.westhamtillidie.com/authors/blind-hammer/posts

From: Robert Doc Wright godfearer

Sent: 12 October 2018 16:21

To: NVDA

Subject: [nvda] daisy book reader

Is there a reader similar to jaws fsReader for NVDA?

John


Re: Is WordPress content management accessible?

 

Yes, with NVDA it's perfectly accessible. I'm writing to a blog right now and I couldn't like more the platform.
It's too easy, I'm sure you'll like it too.

Em 14/10/2018 03:54, John J. Boyer escreveu:

Thanks,
John


Is WordPress content management accessible?

John J. Boyer
 

Thanks,
John

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Re: No voice, Power Point Slide Show view on Laptop with HDMI connected, NVDA restart fixes problem

 

Well to be honest that issue can happen if you switch sound cards, then switch them back.

If you go to audio output you can probably select a device.

I have noticed this when pulling out a  device and not switching it back.

I don't usually have that issue on windows but I have had instances where a user set sound on a spaciffic device for special reason and it stayed there.

It would stay there till I used that device to switch back.

Thats fine if that device existed at all and or I could plug my external card in and switch back.

I could get a sightling to switch back.

But its happened a lot on my system where a user would use it for something and switch my sound.

A full reformat is needed to get sound back and I have banned anyone for doodling with my system.

If they do and mess it up I reformat and rage at that user but thats not happened for ages.

On 10/14/2018 8:42 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
No it sounds like something is telling nvda there is no sound device at all, which is definitely weird when you consider its just powerpoint, part of Office and one might consider all the audio parts are probably shared.

This sounds like an issue needs to be raised. I'd suspect nobody has tried a tv via hdmi so would not spot it. The fact that it is still giving sound but not nvda.
What happens if you open that windows dialogue that shows each sound generating bit of software and its volume like on windows 7, I assume that is in 10.
I did see somebody describe  Windows 10 audio as a bit of a dogs dinner, which definitely does not sound good.


Unfortunately looking on the back of my pc I do not have an hdmi socket. so...

Brian

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Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2018 5:21 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] No voice, Power Point Slide Show view on Laptop with HDMI connected, NVDA restart fixes problem


Hello Brian:

I tried to replicate the problem here at home. Since I do not have a
projector, I used at TV instead. The computer is set to duplicate the
desktop on the second screen (i.e. the TV).

In this case, when I start the computer with the HDMI connector connected,
all sounds are played on the TV instead of the internal speakers, including
NVDA speech. However, when I start the slide show, NVDA goes silent as I
navigate through the slides, but Narrator happily plays it limited
information about each slide. I also added slide transition sounds to my
presentation and they play on the TV while NVDA remains silent. However,
once I restart NVDA, NVDA reads the slides as expected.

Therefore, I do not think this is a sound mapping issue.

Rick

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Subject: Re: [nvda] No voice, Power Point Slide Show view on Laptop with
HDMI connected, NVDA restart fixes problem

Do all sounds go away, or just nvda. I was wondering if the sound was going
to hdmi.
Brian

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Sent: Friday, October 12, 2018 8:31 PM
Subject: [nvda] No voice, Power Point Slide Show view on Laptop with HDMI
connected, NVDA restart fixes problem


I have 2 high-end Lenovo laptops with nVidia graphics cards. Both are
running Windows 10 Professional and Office 365 desktop apps. One
computer  is  brand new while the other is 3 years old. These are work
computers, so  Windows and Office are updated within the last few
months and not  necessarily running the absolute latest updates. I am
running the latest  released version of NVDA and have no addin present.
I have Microsoft  Speech  API Version 5 as my voice.



If connected to projectors using the HDMI port, putting a Power Point
presentation into slide show mode (by pressing the F5 key) I lose all
speech output on that particular window. It doesn't matter if I am
using the internal speakers or am connected to a wired or wireless
headset. Alt tabbing to other windows and NVDA speaks just fine, but
not on the slide show window. Moving from slide to slide produces no
speech. If the HDMI connection is not present, NVDA speaks just fine
in slide show mode.



If I now restart NVDA with Power Point still displaying the slide show
and the HDMI connection still present, everything works as expected.
NVDA reads the slides as I navigate from slide to slide, using the
internal speakers or connected headset.



I tried restarting NVDA after booting the computer to see if it was a
problem with the autostart of NVDA completing prior to other parts of
the system completing initialization, but it still failed to speak in
slide show window until restarting NVDA after launching Power Point.



Rick















Re: Microsoft word question

Pranav Lal
 

Hi,

Microsoft Word does display the line number on the status bar. You can read
the status bar with NVDA and get that information. Please see the following
link for details on Word's line number display.
https://word.tips.net/T001412_What_Line_Am_I_On.html

You do not need to enable NVDA's reporting of line numbers.

Pranav


Re: No voice, Power Point Slide Show view on Laptop with HDMI connected, NVDA restart fixes problem

Pranav Lal
 

Rick,

Set your output device in NVDA specifically which should solve the problem.
I think the usual setting is microsoft sound mapper. Set the output device
to your internal sound card. That way, when your computer begins sending
audio over HDMI, NVDA will continue speaking through the internal sound
card.

Pranav


Re: Accessibility improvements to groups.io

 

Robert,

        Groups.io is Mark's baby, and has been from the start.  Read his "history of how I got here":  https://wingedpig.com/2014/09/23/introducing-groups-io/

        Unfortunately I don't use practically anything but the online forum feature and, on rare occasions, the member directory.  And I don't use those routinely with a screen reader.

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Re: Microsoft word question

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi


Not sure about a shortcut for reporting which line you are on but there is a setting under document formatting called line numbers which would need to be checked to report a line. There may be a setting under the input gestures in nvda.


Just checked and there is and it looks as though you can asign a key for it to to toggle it on and off. Not some thing i have used for a long time.

So not sure when it is on it says the number but guess it would and when off you do not hear it at all.


Gene nz

that may allow you to assign one? 


On 13/10/2018 10:27 PM, Angelo Sonnesso wrote:
Is there a way to fine out what line you are on in your document?
In Jaws when you press insert/caps lock plus period it tells you the line
number you are on.
Thanks

73 N2DYN Angelo






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braille extender crashing?

David Csercsics
 

Has anyone else seen crashes with the Braille Extender add-on and NVDA 2018.3.2? I just got this braille display and this looked kind of neat. I’m using a Brailliant BI 40.

 


Re: daisy book reader

Chris Mullins
 

Hi

You could try www.daisy.org/amis/download a daisy reader I used a few years ago which I believe is free.

 

 

Cheers

Chris

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 13 October 2018 18:24
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] daisy book reader

 

Try installing a JAWS demo and see if the reader works with whatever screen-reader you want to use.  It is far from settled that it can't be run if JAWS is installed as a demo.  There have been contradictory reports.

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Mallard

Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2018 11:47 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] daisy book reader

 

Hello here,


What about a free Daisy reader for those poor users who haven't got Jaws
on their pcs? Is there anything available?


Thanks, ciao,

Ollie





Il 13/10/2018 16:16, Richard Wells ha scritto:
>
> I just ran FSReader as well and it runs fine with NVDA running.
>
>
> On 10/13/2018 3:48 AM, David Griffith wrote:
>>
>> This is strange.
>>
>> I have just gone back  and run FS Reader without any issue using the
>> latest NVDA release.
>>
>> I have Jaws 18 and 19 Beta installed on this system though.
>>
>> It may be that the software now checks for a Jaws licence even if it
>> is not running.
>>
>> If this is so I am sorry for misleading the list as I was unaware of
>> this change.
>>
>> David Griffith
>>
>> My Blind Access and Guide dog Blog
>> http://dgriffithblog.wordpress.com/
>> My Blind hammer Blog
>> https://www.westhamtillidie.com/authors/blind-hammer/posts
>>
>> *From: *Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
>> <mailto:bglists@...>
>> *Sent: *13 October 2018 08:35
>> *To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>> *Subject: *Re: [nvda] daisy book reader
>>
>> You say that but I did this and tried to use it and it said you have
>> to have
>>
>> Jaws running to use this software.
>>
>> That did not used to happen before this year.
>>
>> Brian
>>
>> bglists@...
>>
>> Sent via blueyonder.
>>
>> Please address personal E-mail to:-
>>
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>>
>> in the display name field.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>
>> From: "David Griffith" <daj.griffith@...>
>>
>> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>>
>> Sent: Friday, October 12, 2018 4:31 PM
>>
>> Subject: Re: [nvda] daisy book reader
>>
>> FS Reader works fine in NVDA.
>>
>> Just install Jaws and let it alone and run FS Reader and use it withNVDA.
>>
>> David Griffith
>>
>> My Blind Access and Guide dog Blog
>>
>> http://dgriffithblog.wordpress.com/
>>
>> My Blind hammer Blog
>>
>> https://www.westhamtillidie.com/authors/blind-hammer/posts
>>
>> From: Robert Doc Wright godfearer
>>
>> Sent: 12 October 2018 16:21
>>
>> To: NVDA
>>
>> Subject: [nvda] daisy book reader
>>
>> Is there a reader similar to jaws fsReader for NVDA?
>>
>
>



Re: No voice, Power Point Slide Show view on Laptop with HDMI connected, NVDA restart fixes problem

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

No it sounds like something is telling nvda there is no sound device at all, which is definitely weird when you consider its just powerpoint, part of Office and one might consider all the audio parts are probably shared.

This sounds like an issue needs to be raised. I'd suspect nobody has tried a tv via hdmi so would not spot it. The fact that it is still giving sound but not nvda.
What happens if you open that windows dialogue that shows each sound generating bit of software and its volume like on windows 7, I assume that is in 10.
I did see somebody describe Windows 10 audio as a bit of a dogs dinner, which definitely does not sound good.


Unfortunately looking on the back of my pc I do not have an hdmi socket. so...

Brian

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Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2018 5:21 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] No voice, Power Point Slide Show view on Laptop with HDMI connected, NVDA restart fixes problem


Hello Brian:

I tried to replicate the problem here at home. Since I do not have a
projector, I used at TV instead. The computer is set to duplicate the
desktop on the second screen (i.e. the TV).

In this case, when I start the computer with the HDMI connector connected,
all sounds are played on the TV instead of the internal speakers, including
NVDA speech. However, when I start the slide show, NVDA goes silent as I
navigate through the slides, but Narrator happily plays it limited
information about each slide. I also added slide transition sounds to my
presentation and they play on the TV while NVDA remains silent. However,
once I restart NVDA, NVDA reads the slides as expected.

Therefore, I do not think this is a sound mapping issue.

Rick

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Do all sounds go away, or just nvda. I was wondering if the sound was going
to hdmi.
Brian

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Sent: Friday, October 12, 2018 8:31 PM
Subject: [nvda] No voice, Power Point Slide Show view on Laptop with HDMI
connected, NVDA restart fixes problem


I have 2 high-end Lenovo laptops with nVidia graphics cards. Both are
running Windows 10 Professional and Office 365 desktop apps. One
computer is brand new while the other is 3 years old. These are work
computers, so Windows and Office are updated within the last few
months and not necessarily running the absolute latest updates. I am
running the latest released version of NVDA and have no addin present.
I have Microsoft Speech API Version 5 as my voice.



If connected to projectors using the HDMI port, putting a Power Point
presentation into slide show mode (by pressing the F5 key) I lose all
speech output on that particular window. It doesn't matter if I am
using the internal speakers or am connected to a wired or wireless
headset. Alt tabbing to other windows and NVDA speaks just fine, but
not on the slide show window. Moving from slide to slide produces no
speech. If the HDMI connection is not present, NVDA speaks just fine
in slide show mode.



If I now restart NVDA with Power Point still displaying the slide show
and the HDMI connection still present, everything works as expected.
NVDA reads the slides as I navigate from slide to slide, using the
internal speakers or connected headset.



I tried restarting NVDA after booting the computer to see if it was a
problem with the autostart of NVDA completing prior to other parts of
the system completing initialization, but it still failed to speak in
slide show window until restarting NVDA after launching Power Point.



Rick












Re: Accessibility improvements to groups.io

 

Does anyone else have any specific accessibility issues with the site? I've been trying to create a document or something that I, we, can then share with Mark. I thought Mark had a team? You mean to tell me that he made this site all by himself? That's amazing! I've been looking for more unlabeled edit boxes and combo boxes all day, but I can't find any, except for the composing a message edit box. Does anyone else have any observations? I'm trying to write down the various fixes Mark can do to the Calendar but I am running out of ideas. Anyone else have input?


Re: daisy book reader

Gene
 

Try installing a JAWS demo and see if the reader works with whatever screen-reader you want to use.  It is far from settled that it can't be run if JAWS is installed as a demo.  There have been contradictory reports.
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Mallard
Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2018 11:47 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] daisy book reader

Hello here,


What about a free Daisy reader for those poor users who haven't got Jaws
on their pcs? Is there anything available?


Thanks, ciao,

Ollie





Il 13/10/2018 16:16, Richard Wells ha scritto:
>
> I just ran FSReader as well and it runs fine with NVDA running.
>
>
> On 10/13/2018 3:48 AM, David Griffith wrote:
>>
>> This is strange.
>>
>> I have just gone back  and run FS Reader without any issue using the
>> latest NVDA release.
>>
>> I have Jaws 18 and 19 Beta installed on this system though.
>>
>> It may be that the software now checks for a Jaws licence even if it
>> is not running.
>>
>> If this is so I am sorry for misleading the list as I was unaware of
>> this change.
>>
>> David Griffith
>>
>> My Blind Access and Guide dog Blog
>> http://dgriffithblog.wordpress.com/
>> My Blind hammer Blog
>> https://www.westhamtillidie.com/authors/blind-hammer/posts
>>
>> *From: *Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
>> <mailto:bglists@...>
>> *Sent: *13 October 2018 08:35
>> *To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>> *Subject: *Re: [nvda] daisy book reader
>>
>> You say that but I did this and tried to use it and it said you have
>> to have
>>
>> Jaws running to use this software.
>>
>> That did not used to happen before this year.
>>
>> Brian
>>
>> bglists@...
>>
>> Sent via blueyonder.
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>> Please address personal E-mail to:-
>>
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>> ----- Original Message -----
>>
>> From: "David Griffith" <daj.griffith@...>
>>
>> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>>
>> Sent: Friday, October 12, 2018 4:31 PM
>>
>> Subject: Re: [nvda] daisy book reader
>>
>> FS Reader works fine in NVDA.
>>
>> Just install Jaws and let it alone and run FS Reader and use it withNVDA.
>>
>> David Griffith
>>
>> My Blind Access and Guide dog Blog
>>
>> http://dgriffithblog.wordpress.com/
>>
>> My Blind hammer Blog
>>
>> https://www.westhamtillidie.com/authors/blind-hammer/posts
>>
>> From: Robert Doc Wright godfearer
>>
>> Sent: 12 October 2018 16:21
>>
>> To: NVDA
>>
>> Subject: [nvda] daisy book reader
>>
>> Is there a reader similar to jaws fsReader for NVDA?
>>
>
>




Re: daisy book reader

Mallard
 

Hello here,


What about a free Daisy reader for those poor users who haven't got Jaws on their pcs? Is there anything available?


Thanks, ciao,

Ollie

Il 13/10/2018 16:16, Richard Wells ha scritto:

I just ran FSReader as well and it runs fine with NVDA running.


On 10/13/2018 3:48 AM, David Griffith wrote:

This is strange.

I have just gone back  and run FS Reader without any issue using the latest NVDA release.

I have Jaws 18 and 19 Beta installed on this system though.

It may be that the software now checks for a Jaws licence even if it is not running.

If this is so I am sorry for misleading the list as I was unaware of this change.

David Griffith

My Blind Access and Guide dog Blog
http://dgriffithblog.wordpress.com/
My Blind hammer Blog
https://www.westhamtillidie.com/authors/blind-hammer/posts

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*Sent: *13 October 2018 08:35
*To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject: *Re: [nvda] daisy book reader

You say that but I did this and tried to use it and it said you have to have

Jaws running to use this software.

That did not used to happen before this year.

Brian

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----- Original Message -----

From: "David Griffith" <daj.griffith@...>

To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>

Sent: Friday, October 12, 2018 4:31 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] daisy book reader

FS Reader works fine in NVDA.

Just install Jaws and let it alone and run FS Reader and use it withNVDA.

David Griffith

My Blind Access and Guide dog Blog

http://dgriffithblog.wordpress.com/

My Blind hammer Blog

https://www.westhamtillidie.com/authors/blind-hammer/posts

From: Robert Doc Wright godfearer

Sent: 12 October 2018 16:21

To: NVDA

Subject: [nvda] daisy book reader

Is there a reader similar to jaws fsReader for NVDA?


Re: No voice, Power Point Slide Show view on Laptop with HDMI connected, NVDA restart fixes problem

Rick
 

Hello Brian:

I tried to replicate the problem here at home. Since I do not have a
projector, I used at TV instead. The computer is set to duplicate the
desktop on the second screen (i.e. the TV).

In this case, when I start the computer with the HDMI connector connected,
all sounds are played on the TV instead of the internal speakers, including
NVDA speech. However, when I start the slide show, NVDA goes silent as I
navigate through the slides, but Narrator happily plays it limited
information about each slide. I also added slide transition sounds to my
presentation and they play on the TV while NVDA remains silent. However,
once I restart NVDA, NVDA reads the slides as expected.

Therefore, I do not think this is a sound mapping issue.

Rick

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Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2018 3:51 AM
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Subject: Re: [nvda] No voice, Power Point Slide Show view on Laptop with
HDMI connected, NVDA restart fixes problem

Do all sounds go away, or just nvda. I was wondering if the sound was going
to hdmi.
Brian

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Sent: Friday, October 12, 2018 8:31 PM
Subject: [nvda] No voice, Power Point Slide Show view on Laptop with HDMI
connected, NVDA restart fixes problem


I have 2 high-end Lenovo laptops with nVidia graphics cards. Both are
running Windows 10 Professional and Office 365 desktop apps. One
computer is brand new while the other is 3 years old. These are work
computers, so Windows and Office are updated within the last few
months and not necessarily running the absolute latest updates. I am
running the latest released version of NVDA and have no addin present.
I have Microsoft Speech API Version 5 as my voice.



If connected to projectors using the HDMI port, putting a Power Point
presentation into slide show mode (by pressing the F5 key) I lose all
speech output on that particular window. It doesn't matter if I am
using the internal speakers or am connected to a wired or wireless
headset. Alt tabbing to other windows and NVDA speaks just fine, but
not on the slide show window. Moving from slide to slide produces no
speech. If the HDMI connection is not present, NVDA speaks just fine
in slide show mode.



If I now restart NVDA with Power Point still displaying the slide show
and the HDMI connection still present, everything works as expected.
NVDA reads the slides as I navigate from slide to slide, using the
internal speakers or connected headset.



I tried restarting NVDA after booting the computer to see if it was a
problem with the autostart of NVDA completing prior to other parts of
the system completing initialization, but it still failed to speak in
slide show window until restarting NVDA after launching Power Point.



Rick