Re: Unable to read the edit field labels for the file properties in Microsoft Excel and Microsoft Word
Cearbhall O'Meadhra
Sorry David,
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I did not understand what your problem was and went looking for the actual edit fields. Now I see what you mean! I agree with you that NVDA does not speak the labels of the three editable Info fields when I tab to them. However, NVDA does speak the labels of the author edit fields when I tab to them. We could raise this as an issue on Github. All the best, Cearbhall m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@blbc.ie
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Apps Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 8:30 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Unable to read the edit field labels for the file properties in Microsoft Excel and Microsoft Word Dear Cearbhall Thank you very much for your message and for your suggestion. Interestingly, those document formatting options were already selected. I tried clearing them before selecting them again. I receive the same results in each situation. Do you receive different results? 1. In Microsoft Word, open a document or create a new blank document. 2. Press Alt+F, I to open the file info page. 3. Press Tab. NVDA says "Protect Document grouping Protect Document Alt, F, I, P". 4. Press Tab. NVDA says "Inspect Document grouping Before publishing this file, be aware that it contains Check for Issues Alt, F, I, I". 5. Press Tab. NVDA says "Manage Document grouping Check out document or recover unsaved changes. Manage Document Alt, F, I, R". 6. Press tab. NVDA says "Properties grouping Properties Alt, F, I, Q S". 7. Press Tab. NVDA says "edit blank". I expected it to say "Title" before this. I can press NVDA+Numpad 8 to obtain the label. 8. Press Tab. NVDA says "edit blank". I expected it to say "Tags" before this. I can press NVDA+Numpad 8 to obtain the label. 9. Press Tab. NVDA says "edit multi line blank". I expected it to say "Comments" before this. I can press NVDA+Numpad 8 to obtain the label. I am using NVDA 2018.3.2 with Microsoft Windows 10 (64-bit) (Version 10.0.17134 Build 17134) and Microsoft Excel for Office 365 MSO (16.0.10827.20118) (32-bit). Thank you David ________________________________ Notice of Confidentiality This email is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed and may be confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not disclose, reproduce, distribute or use this information. Delivery of this message to any person other than the individual or entity to whom it is addressed is not intended in any way to waive confidentiality. If you have received this email in error please notify the sender and delete the message immediately. RNA Analytics is a limited liability company registered in England and Wales, under registered number 10521383. The registered address is: Ground Floor, Bancroft Place, 10 Bancroft Road, Reigate, Surrey, RH2 7RP, United Kingdom ________________________________
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Re: Unable to read the edit field labels for the file properties in Microsoft Excel and Microsoft Word
Cearbhall O'Meadhra
David,
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Yes, I can replicate all of your points. In fact it was only really necessary to tab between the groupings I then used the down-arrow to move to each of the items in the same group. I got the same sequence as you did. I also used tab as you specified and got the same results. However, I needed to press tab to move from the info grouping to the properties grouping, through the blank rows and next Itabbed to the autohr grouping. I'm a bit lost! What are we looking for? All the best, Cearbhall m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@blbc.ie
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Apps Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 8:30 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Unable to read the edit field labels for the file properties in Microsoft Excel and Microsoft Word Dear Cearbhall Thank you very much for your message and for your suggestion. Interestingly, those document formatting options were already selected. I tried clearing them before selecting them again. I receive the same results in each situation. Do you receive different results? 1. In Microsoft Word, open a document or create a new blank document. 2. Press Alt+F, I to open the file info page. 3. Press Tab. NVDA says "Protect Document grouping Protect Document Alt, F, I, P". 4. Press Tab. NVDA says "Inspect Document grouping Before publishing this file, be aware that it contains Check for Issues Alt, F, I, I". 5. Press Tab. NVDA says "Manage Document grouping Check out document or recover unsaved changes. Manage Document Alt, F, I, R". 6. Press tab. NVDA says "Properties grouping Properties Alt, F, I, Q S". 7. Press Tab. NVDA says "edit blank". I expected it to say "Title" before this. I can press NVDA+Numpad 8 to obtain the label. 8. Press Tab. NVDA says "edit blank". I expected it to say "Tags" before this. I can press NVDA+Numpad 8 to obtain the label. 9. Press Tab. NVDA says "edit multi line blank". I expected it to say "Comments" before this. I can press NVDA+Numpad 8 to obtain the label. I am using NVDA 2018.3.2 with Microsoft Windows 10 (64-bit) (Version 10.0.17134 Build 17134) and Microsoft Excel for Office 365 MSO (16.0.10827.20118) (32-bit). Thank you David ________________________________ Notice of Confidentiality This email is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed and may be confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not disclose, reproduce, distribute or use this information. Delivery of this message to any person other than the individual or entity to whom it is addressed is not intended in any way to waive confidentiality. If you have received this email in error please notify the sender and delete the message immediately. RNA Analytics is a limited liability company registered in England and Wales, under registered number 10521383. The registered address is: Ground Floor, Bancroft Place, 10 Bancroft Road, Reigate, Surrey, RH2 7RP, United Kingdom ________________________________
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Navigation issues in the Microsoft Visual Basic for Applications editor in Microsoft Office
David Apps
Dear Chris
Thank you for your message. Yes, before sending my message, I searched the archive and found a few messages describing that issue with VBA macro editing. I could not find an issue on fithub for it. Perhaps I did not use the correct search terms. It is an issue that I also used to have. Things seem much better in my current configuration. However, I am so used to doing most of my macro editing in Notepad that I often still do so, but it is good to have the choice, especially for quick changes. I hope that you will also have the choice one day soon. Thank you David From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Mullins Sent: 17 October 2018 11:27 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Incorrect character count when selecting text in the Microsoft Visual Basic for Applications editor in Microsoft Office Hi I use VBA editor in office 2007 and have for a long time had navigation issues when using it with NVDA. When using arrow keys to navigate it will completely lose position within the macro code. It is so bad I have to code in Notepad then copy into the editor for syntax checking and testing. I have raised this issue on the list in the past but have had no responses. Cheers Chris ________________________________ Notice of Confidentiality This email is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed and may be confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not disclose, reproduce, distribute or use this information. Delivery of this message to any person other than the individual or entity to whom it is addressed is not intended in any way to waive confidentiality. If you have received this email in error please notify the sender and delete the message immediately. RNA Analytics is a limited liability company registered in England and Wales, under registered number 10521383. The registered address is: Ground Floor, Bancroft Place, 10 Bancroft Road, Reigate, Surrey, RH2 7RP, United Kingdom ________________________________
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NVDA with Links and Attachments
David Russell
Hi NVDA Group,
I have both Mozilla (older classic) version on my computer, probably 52 as well as Internet Explorer 10 as browser options. In my profession, I need to view attachments, and it would be helpful to view them as prepared rather than in HTML. I use GMail. The questions are these: 1. In GMail, If I type in an internet address using Internet Explorer, will it automatically become a link in the email? Is there a hot key to do the same with Mozilla? I read where Mozilla changed things so links add when an email arrives at the receiving program at that program's discretion. 2. Per attachments, how can I open an attachment in GMail with Mozilla,as a totally blind user? The old method has not worked for a good 2 years. Or, is there an email service that would run like a Classic Google Version? Thanks for advisement on both issues. -- David Russell david.sonofhashem@gmail.com
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Re: Unable to read the edit field labels for the file properties in Microsoft Excel and Microsoft Word
David Apps
Dear Cearbhall
Thank you very much for your message and for your suggestion. Interestingly, those document formatting options were already selected. I tried clearing them before selecting them again. I receive the same results in each situation. Do you receive different results? 1. In Microsoft Word, open a document or create a new blank document. 2. Press Alt+F, I to open the file info page. 3. Press Tab. NVDA says "Protect Document grouping Protect Document Alt, F, I, P". 4. Press Tab. NVDA says "Inspect Document grouping Before publishing this file, be aware that it contains Check for Issues Alt, F, I, I". 5. Press Tab. NVDA says "Manage Document grouping Check out document or recover unsaved changes. Manage Document Alt, F, I, R". 6. Press tab. NVDA says "Properties grouping Properties Alt, F, I, Q S". 7. Press Tab. NVDA says "edit blank". I expected it to say "Title" before this. I can press NVDA+Numpad 8 to obtain the label. 8. Press Tab. NVDA says "edit blank". I expected it to say "Tags" before this. I can press NVDA+Numpad 8 to obtain the label. 9. Press Tab. NVDA says "edit multi line blank". I expected it to say "Comments" before this. I can press NVDA+Numpad 8 to obtain the label. I am using NVDA 2018.3.2 with Microsoft Windows 10 (64-bit) (Version 10.0.17134 Build 17134) and Microsoft Excel for Office 365 MSO (16.0.10827.20118) (32-bit). Thank you David ________________________________ Notice of Confidentiality This email is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed and may be confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not disclose, reproduce, distribute or use this information. Delivery of this message to any person other than the individual or entity to whom it is addressed is not intended in any way to waive confidentiality. If you have received this email in error please notify the sender and delete the message immediately. RNA Analytics is a limited liability company registered in England and Wales, under registered number 10521383. The registered address is: Ground Floor, Bancroft Place, 10 Bancroft Road, Reigate, Surrey, RH2 7RP, United Kingdom ________________________________
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Re: nvda and google docs sheets and slides
Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
I'd imagine it has to be Chrome, but to be honest. I could not get on with Google docs myself. Too laggy and awkward, but then, that might just be me!
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From: "Josh Kennedy" <joshknnd1982@gmail.com> To: <nvda@groups.io> Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 2:48 PM Subject: [nvda] nvda and google docs sheets and slides Hi, What wweb browser works best with google docs sheets and slides? Freedom scientific said to use firefox, but that document came out 3 or so years ago, so it may be a little outdated. NVDA and chrome seem to work good with google office, now. Or is the latest firefox still best? Josh Sent from Mail for Windows 10 Sent from Mail for Windows 10
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Re: Problem with "NVDA+ numPad5" twice
Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
Well I see no error even on a portable version of nvda. I'm not sure what logging level you are on and why you are using a portable version as I find that in Windows10, portable copies of nvda are becomeing increasingly unusable due to many accessibility bits being only open to an installed program with the right permissions.
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From: "bering.p" <bering.p@wanadoo.fr> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 6:07 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] Problem with "NVDA+ numPad5" twice Thanks for your reply.
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Re: Incorrect character count when selecting text in the Microsoft Visual Basic for Applications editor in Microsoft Office
Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
Yes an interestingly revealing number that!
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I wonder what happens in a 64 bit system? Brian bglists@blueyonder.co.uk Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal E-mail to:- briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field.
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From: "Quentin Christensen" <quentin@nvaccess.org> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 9:00 AM Subject: Re: [nvda] Incorrect character count when selecting text in the Microsoft Visual Basic for Applications editor in Microsoft Office You're not doing something wrong and that does look like the kind of thing
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NVDA and eclipse
Diego Ricardo Matos <diegoricardomatosm4@...>
Hello guys!
I am having several problems with the eclipse and NVDA. I am programming in java language, and when I open the program, NVDA is unable to put the focus in the program. When I go with alt+tab and I press NvDA+t, he speaks only explorer. It's as if NvDA is not able to interact with it, but in fact, if I type something still works. Another problem I have are the on-screen messages and dialogs question NVDA can't read. Any idea? I have already enabled the java access bridge by painéu control, and I'm using the jdk 8 32-bit, along with the eclipse 32-bit, NVDA 2018.3.2 and windows 10 64-bit. What do you do? Sorry for my english.
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Re: Anoying repeating message while in FastMail
Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
I've not used it, but it sounds to me like it has the focus every time the time is changed. I wonder, in that software is the a way to hide the time display?
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I do not think that fast mail is supported by nvda. Is it web based or a client? Brian bglists@blueyonder.co.uk Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal E-mail to:- briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field.
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From: "Cleverson Casarin Uliana" <clul@mm.st> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2018 5:58 PM Subject: [nvda] Anoying repeating message while in FastMail Hi all, in case someone use the FastMail service, I'd like to know if it's possible to make NVDA not speak repeatedly the time since the opened message has arrived.
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Re: Firefox 63 beta 64 and windows 7 64 not working again
Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
Not sure what you are talking about. I'm just saying that nvda is not working on that version here. That is a fact, and I was as annoyed as you about the way the thread went, but it was to some extent relevant to nvda, but not to the issue at hand!
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From: "Mr. Wong Chi Wai, William" <cwwong.pro@gmail.com> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 12:39 AM Subject: Re: [nvda] Firefox 63 beta 64 and windows 7 64 not working again Sorry, can all those unrelated nonsense discussion move to somewhere else?
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NVDA and the updated Codefactory
Chris Shook <chris0309@...>
Hi,
I have a quick question. After updating to the latest version of the Eloquence and Vocalizer addon, I noticed a type of voice labeled imbedded pro. However, there doesn't seem to be a difference in imbedded pro and imbedded high. Can anyone clear this up?
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Re: Problem with "NVDA+ numPad5" twice
bering.p
Thanks for your reply.
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That's ocurs with VLC multimedia player v3.0. Cheers. Paul. Le 17/10/2018 17:09, Joseph Lee a
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Re: braille input/editing bugs/weirdness
Jason White
I’ve encountered problems with cursor routing keys before, but not recently.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Csercsics
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 10:45 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] braille input/editing bugs/weirdness
Has anyone else noticed that cursor routing buttons don’t work to route the cursor in edit fields sometimes, and the braille display sometimes doesn’t reflect the currently-being-typed input? Have I got something set wrongly? This is with NVDA 2018.3.2 and I noticed that things aren’t updated correctly whether I use the PC keyboard, or braille input. I’m on Windows 10 pro 1809. I have a Brailliant BI 40 here, but I also have a Refreshabraille 18, and I see the same behaviour, so I don’t think it’s display specific.
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Re: Problem with "NVDA+ numPad5" twice
Hi, No, you need to add NVDA key to the mix. In case of the error at hand: what exactly were you doing when the error happened (as in which program/control you were working with)? Cheers, Joseph
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Csercsics
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 6:16 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Problem with "NVDA+ numPad5" twice
I get no errors here. Pressing numpad 5 twice quickly spells the current word as expected.
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braille input/editing bugs/weirdness
David Csercsics
Has anyone else noticed that cursor routing buttons don’t work to route the cursor in edit fields sometimes, and the braille display sometimes doesn’t reflect the currently-being-typed input? Have I got something set wrongly? This is with NVDA 2018.3.2 and I noticed that things aren’t updated correctly whether I use the PC keyboard, or braille input. I’m on Windows 10 pro 1809. I have a Brailliant BI 40 here, but I also have a Refreshabraille 18, and I see the same behaviour, so I don’t think it’s display specific.
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
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nvda and google docs sheets and slides
Josh Kennedy <joshknnd1982@...>
Hi,
What wweb browser works best with google docs sheets and slides? Freedom scientific said to use firefox, but that document came out 3 or so years ago, so it may be a little outdated. NVDA and chrome seem to work good with google office, now. Or is the latest firefox still best?
Josh
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Re: Problem with "NVDA+ numPad5" twice
David Csercsics
I get no errors here. Pressing numpad 5 twice quickly spells the current word as expected.
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Problem with "NVDA+ numPad5" twice
bering.p
Hi,
With NVDA 2018.3.2 and by using twice "NVDA+ numPad5, an error ocurs. Do you Notice the same thing? The log: INFO - __main__ (11:49:25.453): Starting NVDA INFO - core.main (11:49:25.776): Config dir: F:\documents\Paulo\temp\nvda 2018.3.2\userConfig INFO - config.ConfigManager._loadConfig (11:49:25.776): Loading config: .\userConfig\nvda.ini INFO - core.main (11:49:25.941): NVDA version 2018.3.2 INFO - core.main (11:49:25.941): Using Windows version 10.0.17134 workstation INFO - core.main (11:49:25.947): Using Python version 2.7.15 (v2.7.15:ca079a3ea3, Apr 30 2018, 16:22:17) [MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)] INFO - core.main (11:49:25.947): Using comtypes version 1.1.3 INFO - core.main (11:49:26.026): Add-ons are disabled. Restart NVDA to enable them. DEBUGWARNING - touchHandler.touchSupported (11:49:26.177): Touch only supported on installed copies ERROR - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (11:49:26.546): setSynth Traceback (most recent call last): File "synthDriverHandler.pyo", line 105, in setSynth File "synthDriverHandler.pyo", line 73, in getSynthInstance File "synthDriverHandler.pyo", line 40, in _getSynthDriver ImportError: No module named eloquence INFO - synthDrivers.espeak.SynthDriver.__init__ (11:49:26.927): Using eSpeak NG version 1.49.3 dev INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (11:49:29.046): Loaded synthDriver espeak DEBUGWARNING - core.main (11:49:29.051): Slow starting core (5.40 sec) INFO - core.main (11:49:29.138): Using wx version 4.0.3 msw (phoenix) wxWidgets 3.0.5 INFO - brailleInput.initialize (11:49:29.144): Braille input initialized INFO - braille.initialize (11:49:29.144): Using liblouis version 3.6.0 INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (11:49:29.151): Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells. WARNING - core.main (11:49:29.223): Java Access Bridge not available INFO - _UIAHandler.UIAHandler.MTAThreadFunc (11:49:29.239): UIAutomation: IUIAutomation5 DEBUGWARNING - touchHandler.touchSupported (11:49:30.668): Touch only supported on installed copies INFO - core.main (11:49:30.678): NVDA initialized DEBUGWARNING - NVDAObjects.IAccessible.IAccessible.__init__ (11:49:30.756): Resorting to WindowFromPoint on accLocation INFO - config.ConfigManager._loadConfig (11:49:30.760): Loading config: .\userConfig\profiles\VLC.ini setSynth INFO - synthDrivers.espeak.SynthDriver.__init__ (11:49:30.831): Using eSpeak NG version 1.49.3 dev INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (11:49:30.982): Loaded synthDriver espeak DEBUGWARNING - displayModel.DisplayModelTextInfo._get__storyFieldsAndRects (11:49:36.046): AppModule does not have a binding handle ERROR - scriptHandler.executeScript (11:49:36.051): error executing script: <bound method GlobalCommands.script_navigatorObject_current of <globalCommands.GlobalCommands object at 0x03E96F50>> with gesture u'NVDA+pavNum 5' Traceback (most recent call last): File "scriptHandler.pyo", line 187, in executeScript File "globalCommands.pyo", line 780, in script_navigatorObject_current File "documentBase.pyo", line 24, in makeTextInfo File "displayModel.pyo", line 263, in __init__ File "textInfos\offsets.pyo", line 300, in __init__ File "displayModel.pyo", line 253, in _getSelectionOffsets LookupError Cheers. Paul.
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Re: Unable to read the edit field labels for the file properties in Microsoft Excel and Microsoft Word
Cearbhall O'Meadhra
Hi, David,
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Have you checked the Table switches in the document formatting settings? If not, there are two tags to turn on. Tables Row/column headings These are not on by default so you have to open document settings ( NVDA+control+d) and then press tab several times to get to the "Tables grouping". The first one is "Tables" and the next is the "row/column headings". You move through each switch using the up or down-arrow keys. Let us know if this fixes the problem. I always turn these off again because they are noisy if you do not need the information they provide. All the best, Cearbhall m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@blbc.ie
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Apps Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 9:02 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] Unable to read the edit field labels for the file properties in Microsoft Excel and Microsoft Word I hope that you are having a great day. I am using NVDA 2018.3.2 with Microsoft Windows 10 (64-bit) (Version 10.0.17134 Build 17134) and Microsoft Excel for Office 365 MSO (16.0.10827.20118) (32-bit). When I view or edit the file properties in Microsoft Excel or Microsoft Word (File > Info), NVDA does not read the labels for the edit fields for the properties (Title, Tags, and so on). Am I doing something wrong or should I report this as a bug? Thank you David ________________________________ Notice of Confidentiality This email is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed and may be confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not disclose, reproduce, distribute or use this information. Delivery of this message to any person other than the individual or entity to whom it is addressed is not intended in any way to waive confidentiality. If you have received this email in error please notify the sender and delete the message immediately. RNA Analytics is a limited liability company registered in England and Wales, under registered number 10521383. The registered address is: Ground Floor, Bancroft Place, 10 Bancroft Road, Reigate, Surrey, RH2 7RP, United Kingdom ________________________________
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