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Re: BrailleNote Apex will no work with latest NVDA and Bluetooth

 

Hi,

Okay, have you tried telling Windows 10 to forget your BrailleNote (Settings/Devices, then select your BrailleNote and remove) and pairing/connecting again? I think what might be happening is that NVDA might not be finding the BrailleNote at a designated Bluetooth COM port, or something else is going on.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Armando Maldonado
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2018 2:42 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] BrailleNote Apex will no work with latest NVDA and Bluetooth

 

Hello, I am awer of automatic braille detection and it did not work for me, using winsows 10 andit's connecting via bluetooth. Thanks.

----- Original Message -----

From: Joseph Lee

Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2018 2:34 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] BrailleNote Apex will no work with latest NVDA and Bluetooth

 

Hi,

Apart from this news…

I’d like to know the following:

  1. Windows version you’ve got.
  2. If you are aware of automatic braille display detection in NVDA 2018.3 and later.
  3. Which port is BrailleNote connected to via Bluetooth (automatic or a COM port number).

I’m interested in this, as I do have an Apex and recently introduced Apex BT scroll wheel and BrailleNote QT support to NVDA in 2018.3.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael Munn
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2018 2:34 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] BrailleNote Apex will no work with latest NVDA and Bluetooth

 

The Apex model of the Braille Note is no longer supported by Humanware.


Re: BrailleNote Apex will no work with latest NVDA and Bluetooth

Armando Maldonado
 


Hello, I am awer of automatic braille detection and it did not work for me, using winsows 10 andit's connecting via bluetooth. Thanks.

----- Original Message -----
From: Joseph Lee
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2018 2:34 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] BrailleNote Apex will no work with latest NVDA and Bluetooth

Hi,

Apart from this news…

I’d like to know the following:

  1. Windows version you’ve got.
  2. If you are aware of automatic braille display detection in NVDA 2018.3 and later.
  3. Which port is BrailleNote connected to via Bluetooth (automatic or a COM port number).

I’m interested in this, as I do have an Apex and recently introduced Apex BT scroll wheel and BrailleNote QT support to NVDA in 2018.3.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael Munn
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2018 2:34 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] BrailleNote Apex will no work with latest NVDA and Bluetooth

 

The Apex model of the Braille Note is no longer supported by Humanware.


Re: BrailleNote Apex will no work with latest NVDA and Bluetooth

 

Hi,

Apart from this news…

I’d like to know the following:

  1. Windows version you’ve got.
  2. If you are aware of automatic braille display detection in NVDA 2018.3 and later.
  3. Which port is BrailleNote connected to via Bluetooth (automatic or a COM port number).

I’m interested in this, as I do have an Apex and recently introduced Apex BT scroll wheel and BrailleNote QT support to NVDA in 2018.3.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael Munn
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2018 2:34 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] BrailleNote Apex will no work with latest NVDA and Bluetooth

 

The Apex model of the Braille Note is no longer supported by Humanware.


Re: BrailleNote Apex will no work with latest NVDA and Bluetooth

Michael Munn
 

The Apex model of the Braille Note is no longer supported by Humanware.


Stopping sapi5 voices from long pauses?

Matt Turner
 

Hi folks, subject says it all.

I think someone on this list figured it out, but can't remember.

These are the sapi5 voices in windows.


Re: accessing notifications in windows 10 1809

David Moore
 

Hi!

The new key command for getting to a notification is:

Windows+Shift+V!

Just add the Shift!

David Moore

 

                                                                                                                                                                                                                Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: abdul muhamin
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2018 4:13 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] accessing notifications in windows 10 1809

 

Hi guys, how do I access notifications, specially skype call while I’m out of focus, because if I press win plus v, it opens the clipboard history, instead of open that notification, hoping for solution, thanks

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

 


Re: BrailleNote Apex will no work with latest NVDA and Bluetooth

Armando Maldonado
 

It worked using both methods in previous releases of NVDA and the reason I would like to go bluetooth is USB times out after a while, thanks.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Antony Stone" <antony.stone@nvda.open.source.it>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2018 2:09 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] BrailleNote Apex will no work with latest NVDA and Bluetooth


Firstly I would ask whether it worked with a previous version of NVDA, or is
this the first version you're trying to connect it with?

Secondly I would ask whether it works using USB, or whatever alternative
connection it supports other than Bluetooth.


Antony.

On Thursday 18 October 2018 at 22:55:46, Armando Maldonado wrote:

Hello,
I'm trying to connect my brailleNote Apex with latest NVDA release and no
matter what HumanWare Braillenote driver I choose I get a Cannot load
Braille driver error. How can I remedy this issue and how can I save this
so NVDA can remember which display to use so it will not revert to No
Braille? Thanks. Armando
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Re: BrailleNote Apex will no work with latest NVDA and Bluetooth

Antony Stone
 

Firstly I would ask whether it worked with a previous version of NVDA, or is
this the first version you're trying to connect it with?

Secondly I would ask whether it works using USB, or whatever alternative
connection it supports other than Bluetooth.


Antony.

On Thursday 18 October 2018 at 22:55:46, Armando Maldonado wrote:

Hello,
I'm trying to connect my brailleNote Apex with latest NVDA release and no
matter what HumanWare Braillenote driver I choose I get a Cannot load
Braille driver error. How can I remedy this issue and how can I save this
so NVDA can remember which display to use so it will not revert to No
Braille? Thanks. Armando
--
I conclude that there are two ways of constructing a software design: One way
is to make it so simple that there are _obviously_ no deficiencies, and the
other way is to make it so complicated that there are no _obvious_
deficiencies.

- C A R Hoare

Please reply to the list;
please *don't* CC me.


BrailleNote Apex will no work with latest NVDA and Bluetooth

Armando Maldonado
 


Hello,
I'm trying to connect my brailleNote Apex with latest NVDA release and no matter what HumanWare Braillenote driver I choose I get a Cannot load Braille driver error. How can I remedy this issue and how can I save this so NVDA can remember which display to use so it will not revert to No Braille? Thanks.
Armando


Re: NVDA with Links and Attachments Continued

Gene
 

Proofreading a message is not the same as receiving a message.  Proofreading a message being composed will usually not show links as links, as far as I know.  As far as I know, this is JAWS doing what a screen-reader shouldn't do, pretending something is being shown as a link when it isn't and is just text as far as a sighted person reading a message they are composing is concerned.  But if I'm wrong, I hope to be corrected.  I've never checked this.  But JAWS didn't used to announce link and NVDA doesn't. 
 
If someone receives a message from you and you have written a link properly, www.rest of link or http://www.rest of link, if that person doesn't see the structure as a linkk, that's their problem.  Maybe they are reading mail as plain text and maybe their e-mail program doesn't show mail as a link in plain text.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2018 2:12 PM
To: nvda
Subject: [nvda] NVDA with Links and Attachments Continued

Hello Everyone,

Gene, I understand what you are saying about links and will send
myself a test message. However, If I copy and paste a YouTube link, or
a specified URL is typed in an email, as I proof-read my email,
oftentimes the word 'link' will not be heard with the URL. In some
cases, people have told me that the URL did not get received by them
as a link, only the URL itself. Moreover, the same is observed to
occur on Facebook.
Test:
www.abc.com

At one point in the past, it seems typed URL's did automatically
appear with a link in one's email and not too terribly long ago..
I'll send this communication to myself as well, thank you.

--
David Russell
david.sonofhashem@...



Re: NVDA STOPS SPEAKING RANDOMLY

Gene
 

Before you ran all these maintenance programs, did you try rebooting?  These programs have nothing to do with the CPU load.  The CPU load is determined by the number of processes running and how much computer resources they use.
 
Diksk Cleanup removes unused and unneeded files like temporary files.  Defrag moves files and parts of files that make up one file closer together so the hard drive doesn't have to do as much work to get the information since it is close together.  But none of this has to do with the processor load.
 
I'm telling you this to help you understand what these programs do and because it is inefficient and useless to do unnecessary maintenance.  I'm not sure how this is done and others may tell you, but you can use the Task Manager to get an idea of what programs are using a lot of computer resources. 
 
And, as I said, just rebooting may solve the problem.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2018 1:42 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA STOPS SPEAKING RANDOMLY

I had this problem a few days ago and wrote to the list about it. I
haven't experienced it since then. Some other trouble I had,
especially yesterday, was that my CPU was at an outrageous percentage.
I ran Disk Cleanup, Disk Defragmenter, and reorganized some files. And
I also uninstalled Malwarebytes. I'm not sure if any of these things
in particular helped, but both my problems seem to have disappeared. I
had a lot of large downloads, especially games. This is just a guess,
but maybe NVDA stops speaking because the CPU load is too high.
There's an add-on for NVDA called Resource Monitor. With that
installed, you can press insert+shift+1 and it will tell you the CPU
load.



On 10/18/18, Christo Vorster <christo@...> wrote:
> Hi Group
>
>
>
> I’m sorry if I missed messages regarding my problem, but I experience NVDA
> falling silent every now and then while I am working in MS W, MS Excel,
> Outlook, and even when I am playing some games. Regarding the games, I
> silence NVDA.
>
>
>
> I suddenly thought that it might not be a NVDA problem, but I’m not sure.
>
>
>
> I use a Del desktop computer with Windows 10, the latest update, MS Office
> 2016 and NVDA 2018.3.2.
>
>
>
> Regards
>
>
>
> Christo Vorster (Worcester, South Africa)
>
>
>
> Christo Vorster
>
> Programme Co-ordinator | Program Koördineerder
>
> 20 Adderley Street, Worcester
>
> T 023 348 7636 F 086 415 6839
>
> www.innovationfortheblind.org <http://www.innovationfortheblind.org>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>



Re: Abby fine reader 12

Gene
 

You may be able to correct the problem but do you care about saving formatting?  You can use control a to select all, copy it to the clipboard, then paste it into a word processor or Notepad.  You can then save the pasted document.  You can use Notepad if you just want a text file and you don't care about losing formatting.  If you save it as a word processor document, I don't know if you will lose formatting or if it will change.  Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2018 1:26 PM
Subject: [nvda] Abby fine reader 12

I'm using abby fine reader 12. I'm not able to save file. If I press ctrl + s, nothing happens. When I attempt to close abby fine reader, it asks me I want to save or not. After pressing yes and doing everything when I press enter on save, it shows internal error. How to fix it?


accessing notifications in windows 10 1809

abdul muhamin
 

Hi guys, how do I access notifications, specially skype call while I’m out of focus, because if I press win plus v, it opens the clipboard history, instead of open that notification, hoping for solution, thanks

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


Re: Abby fine reader 12

JM Casey <crystallogic@...>
 

I haven’t jumped aboard yet, but I hear they have great support, so if you bought the product and have tried everything, you should definitely contact them.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: October 18, 2018 3:19 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Abby fine reader 12

 

Did you try a reinstall of the progtam, if not did you contact the developer? This osunds like a software issue with fine reader to me.

On 18 Oct 2018, at 11:26, farhan israk wrote:

I'm using abby fine reader 12. I'm not able to save file. If I press ctrl + s, nothing happens. When I attempt to close abby fine reader, it asks me I want to save or not. After pressing yes and doing everything when I press enter on save, it shows internal error. How to fix it?


Re: Abby fine reader 12

Sarah k Alawami
 

Did you try a reinstall of the progtam, if not did you contact the developer? This osunds like a software issue with fine reader to me.

On 18 Oct 2018, at 11:26, farhan israk wrote:

I'm using abby fine reader 12. I'm not able to save file. If I press ctrl + s, nothing happens. When I attempt to close abby fine reader, it asks me I want to save or not. After pressing yes and doing everything when I press enter on save, it shows internal error. How to fix it?


NVDA with Links and Attachments Continued

David Russell
 

Hello Everyone,

Gene, I understand what you are saying about links and will send
myself a test message. However, If I copy and paste a YouTube link, or
a specified URL is typed in an email, as I proof-read my email,
oftentimes the word 'link' will not be heard with the URL. In some
cases, people have told me that the URL did not get received by them
as a link, only the URL itself. Moreover, the same is observed to
occur on Facebook.
Test:
www.abc.com

At one point in the past, it seems typed URL's did automatically
appear with a link in one's email and not too terribly long ago..
I'll send this communication to myself as well, thank you.

--
David Russell
david.sonofhashem@gmail.com


Re: Abby fine reader 12

Jackie
 

Farhan, it'd be helpful if you could tell us the error you're getting.
Is this a demo product or 1 you've purchased, because, in the demo,
you can't save files--it's 1 of the features reserved only for those
who buy the product.

On 10/18/18, farhan israk <fahim.net.2014@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm using abby fine reader 12. I'm not able to save file. If I press ctrl +
s, nothing happens. When I attempt to close abby fine reader, it asks me I
want to save or not. After pressing yes and doing everything when I press
enter on save, it shows internal error. How to fix it?



--
Remember! Friends Help Friends Be Cybersafe
Jackie McBride
Helping Cybercrime Victims 1 Person at a Time
https://brighter-vision.com


Re: NVDA STOPS SPEAKING RANDOMLY

Clarissa Mitchell
 

I had this problem a few days ago and wrote to the list about it. I
haven't experienced it since then. Some other trouble I had,
especially yesterday, was that my CPU was at an outrageous percentage.
I ran Disk Cleanup, Disk Defragmenter, and reorganized some files. And
I also uninstalled Malwarebytes. I'm not sure if any of these things
in particular helped, but both my problems seem to have disappeared. I
had a lot of large downloads, especially games. This is just a guess,
but maybe NVDA stops speaking because the CPU load is too high.
There's an add-on for NVDA called Resource Monitor. With that
installed, you can press insert+shift+1 and it will tell you the CPU
load.

On 10/18/18, Christo Vorster <christo@training-innovationfortheblind.org> wrote:
Hi Group



I’m sorry if I missed messages regarding my problem, but I experience NVDA
falling silent every now and then while I am working in MS W, MS Excel,
Outlook, and even when I am playing some games. Regarding the games, I
silence NVDA.



I suddenly thought that it might not be a NVDA problem, but I’m not sure.



I use a Del desktop computer with Windows 10, the latest update, MS Office
2016 and NVDA 2018.3.2.



Regards



Christo Vorster (Worcester, South Africa)



Christo Vorster

Programme Co-ordinator | Program Koördineerder

20 Adderley Street, Worcester

T 023 348 7636 F 086 415 6839

www.innovationfortheblind.org <http://www.innovationfortheblind.org>







Abby fine reader 12

farhan israk
 

I'm using abby fine reader 12. I'm not able to save file. If I press ctrl + s, nothing happens. When I attempt to close abby fine reader, it asks me I want to save or not. After pressing yes and doing everything when I press enter on save, it shows internal error. How to fix it?


Re: Some applications take a long time to close

Gene
 

You could try with JAWS or Narrator or something else.  I would think the usual reason for doing such comparisons would be to try to determine if NVDA is causing a problem or if the problem is unrelated.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2018 12:53 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Some applications take a long time to close

How would I then know if it were closed though?
 Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Sarah k Alawami" <marrie12@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2018 4:44 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Some applications take a long time to close


> Have you tried  with nvda closed? That is close nvda then close
> winword.exe?
>
> On 18 Oct 2018, at 0:08, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
>
>> I'm sure all versions of Winword used to just close quickly but on the
>> current stable NVDA, at least there does seem to often be a several
>> second delay before anything happens after the alt/F4.
>> I looked at the log, but really was no wiser other than watchdog for core
>> frozen in stack was happening.
>>
>> IO - speech.speak (07:52:51.654):
>> Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'bowling cancelled.doc -
>> Microsoft Word']
>> IO - speech.speak (07:52:51.716):
>> Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'multi line']
>> IO - speech.speak (07:52:51.755):
>> Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'page 1  section 1', u'end.']
>> IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (07:52:56.746):
>> Input: kb(desktop):alt+f4
>> DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent
>> (07:52:56.786):
>> oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 4391520, objectID -4 and
>> childID 0: [Error -2147024809] The parameter is incorrect
>> DEBUGWARNING - watchdog._watcher (07:52:57.292):
>> Trying to recover from freeze, core stack:
>>  File "nvda.pyw", line 214, in <module>
>>  File "core.pyo", line 508, in main
>>  File "wx\core.pyo", line 2134, in MainLoop
>>  File "gui\__init__.pyo", line 963, in Notify
>>  File "core.pyo", line 478, in run
>>  File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 883, in pumpAll
>>  File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 657, in processFocusWinEvent
>>  File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 524, in winEventToNVDAEvent
>>  File "_UIAHandler.pyo", line 357, in isUIAWindow
>>  File "_UIAHandler.pyo", line 345, in _isUIAWindowHelper
>>
>> DEBUGWARNING - core.CorePump.run (07:52:57.592):
>> errors in this core pump cycle
>> Traceback (most recent call last):
>>  File "core.pyo", line 478, in run
>>  File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 883, in pumpAll
>>  File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 657, in processFocusWinEvent
>>  File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 524, in winEventToNVDAEvent
>>  File "_UIAHandler.pyo", line 357, in isUIAWindow
>>  File "_UIAHandler.pyo", line 351, in _isUIAWindowHelper
>>  File "watchdog.pyo", line 195, in sendMessageCallCanceller
>> CallCancelled
>> DEBUGWARNING - RPC process 1632 (dwm.exe) (07:53:01.897):
>> Thread 4180, build\x86_64\remote\injection.cpp, inproc_winEventCallback,
>> 66:
>> SetWindowsHookEx with WH_GETMESSAGE failed, GetLastError returned 5
>>
>> DEBUGWARNING - RPC process 1632 (dwm.exe) (07:53:01.898):
>> Thread 4180, build\x86_64\remote\injection.cpp, inproc_winEventCallback,
>> 69:
>> SetWindowsHookEx with WH_CALLWNDPROC failed, GetLastError returned 5
>>
>> IO - speech.speak (07:53:02.019):
>> Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'unknown']
>> DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent
>> (07:53:02.119):
>> oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 1770350, objectID -4 and
>> childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
>> DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent
>> (07:53:02.151):
>> oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 3474190, objectID -4 and
>> childID 0: [Error -2147024809] The parameter is incorrect
>> DEBUGWARNING - NVDAObjects.IAccessible.IAccessible._get_IAccessibleRole
>> (07:53:02.164):
>> accRole failed: (-2147024809, 'The parameter is incorrect.', (None, None,
>> None, 0, None))
>> IO - speech.speak (07:53:02.454):
>> Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'(No Subject) - Unicode (UTF-8)']
>> IO - speech.speak (07:53:02.460):
>> Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'read only  multi line']
>> IO - speech.speak (07:53:02.467):
>> Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'selected 1245 characters']
>> IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (07:53:05.035):
>> Input: kb(desktop):control+alt+r
>> DEBUG - appModuleHandler.cleanup (07:53:05.091):
>> application winword closed
>> IO - speech.speak (07:53:05.107):
>> Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'Taskbar']
>> IO - speech.speak (07:53:05.198):
>> Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'reboot nvda with log  terminal']
>> IO - speech.speak (07:53:05.198):
>> Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'80 space', u'blank']
>> INFO - core.main (07:53:05.374):
>> Exiting
>>
>>
>> bglists@...
>> Sent via blueyonder.
>> Please address personal E-mail to:-
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>> in the display name field.
>>
>>
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