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Re: Say all

Gene
 

I should have said object review or screen review?  I just tested and you must be in object review for the command to work to read the entire document.  If you are in screen review, just the current screen will be read.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 9:04 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Say all

Are you saying you have to be using object navigation and not flat review?  I've never compared.  But your terms don't match any NVDA terms for navigation and review settings.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 2:46 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Say all

You have to be in global screen nave not screen nav for that one to work
though.
 It is actually what I use to avoid moving the cursor when reading and is
actually the say all command in Dolphins Supernova.
 Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: "Gene" <gsasner@...>; <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 7:55 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Say all


There is another way you may be able to listen to the file even if other
suggestions don't work.  Use the command numpad plus.  There are three keys
on the last up and down column of the numpad.  the top one is a regular size
key.  The second one is a long key and the third is another long key.  You
want the second key, the first long one from the top rightmost column of the
numpad.  At the beginning of the file, press that key.  Reading should start
at the beginning and continue.  If you want or need to stop, pay careful
attention to where you are stopping.  Remember a number of words in their
correct order.  Write them down if you aren't sure you will remember them.
You will have to find those words, using the Notepad search command control
f.  I am not explaining all you need to know to use the search.  If you
listen to the file in this way, the review position will change but it
appears it is not exactly where you stopped reading.  If you move to the
exact position where you stop in terms of where the actual cursor is, you
can press the key you pressed before and reading will start from where you
left off.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Gene
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 1:38 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Say all


The numpad 2 key is for read current character when used by itself.  When
used with numpad insert It moves you into a navigator object inside of the
one you are in.  for example, if you are in an object that says Wordpad
window but you aren't in the actual window, that command will move the
navigator review into the window.  these are NVDA commands.  They aren't
related to the problem being discussed.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Jacob Kruger
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 1:21 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Say all


This can also happen pretty much exactly like this if you use the numpad 2
key instead of the actual down arrow key?




Stay well




Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"...resistance is futile...but, acceptance is versatile..."

On 2018-10-19 6:39 AM, Gene wrote:

  I don't see what the synthesizer would have to do with the problem.  I've
seen the same thing happen once in awhile.  the cursor doesn't move down as
text is read and after a little while, reading stops.

  Gene
  ----- Original Message -----

  From: Tyler Spivey
  Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2018 11:02 PM
  To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
  Subject: Re: [nvda] Say all


  This is most likely a problem with your synthesizer. Try another one.
  On 10/18/2018 3:52 PM, Vlad Dragomir wrote:
  > Dear fellow users,
  >
  > I hope someone will be able to tell me what I am doing wrong here.
  >
  > I have a big .txt file, and I thought I would just sit back and ask NVDA
  > to read it to me by pressing the usual command, insert+down arrow.
  > Unfortunately after two or three paragraphs, the reading stops, and the
  > cursor is still at the beginning of the file. If I go down with the
  > arrow keys and find the place where it stopped reading, it does
  > continue, but again only for about a minute, and it stops again. Once
  > more, the cursor is where I left it.
  >
  > Isn't it supposed to read the document until the end? Or at least until
  > we stop it? I tried Notepad, QRead, even Notepad++. The behaviour is the
  > same, so I presume I haven't configured NVDA correctly, but I can't
  > guess which setting is to be modified.
  >
  > Thank you very much for enlightening me on this. I'd love to be able to
  > enjoy this book without having to go down line by line.
  >
  > Warm regards,
  >
  > vlad.
  >
  >
  >











Re: Say all

Gene
 

And that's important.  It moves the review cursor.  It doesn't move the application cursor so if you stop reading, the only way to resume reading where you left off is to move the application cursor, and thus the review cursor to where you want to start reading again.  Then you can use numpad plus to resume reading where you want to resume.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 2:55 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Say all

Sorry, meant numpad +, - "Reads from the review cursor up to end of
current text, moving the review cursor as it goes".

As in, sounded almost like that was what happening.

Jacob Kruger
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Skype: BlindZA
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On 2018-10-19 8:38 AM, Gene wrote:
> The numpad 2 key is for read current character when used by itself.
When used with numpad insert It moves you into a navigator object inside
of the one you are in.  for example, if you are in an object that says
Wordpad window but you aren't in the actual window, that command will
move the navigator review into the window.  these are NVDA commands.
They aren't related to the problem being discussed.
>
> Gene
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jacob Kruger
> Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 1:21 AM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] Say all
>
> This can also happen pretty much exactly like this if you use the numpad
2 key instead of the actual down arrow key?
>
>
> Stay well
>
>
> Jacob Kruger
> Blind Biker
> Skype: BlindZA
> "...resistance is futile...but, acceptance is versatile..."
> On 2018-10-19 6:39 AM, Gene wrote:
>> I don't see what the synthesizer would have to do with the problem.
I've seen the same thing happen once in awhile.  the cursor doesn't
move down as text is read and after a little while, reading stops.
>>
>> Gene
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Tyler Spivey
>> Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2018 11:02 PM
>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>> Subject: Re: [nvda] Say all
>>
>> This is most likely a problem with your synthesizer. Try another one.
>> On 10/18/2018 3:52 PM, Vlad Dragomir wrote:
>> > Dear fellow users,
>> >
>> > I hope someone will be able to tell me what I am doing wrong here.
>> >
>> > I have a big .txt file, and I thought I would just sit back and ask NVDA
>> > to read it to me by pressing the usual command, insert+down arrow.
>> > Unfortunately after two or three paragraphs, the reading stops, and the
>> > cursor is still at the beginning of the file. If I go down with the
>> > arrow keys and find the place where it stopped reading, it does
>> > continue, but again only for about a minute, and it stops again. Once
>> > more, the cursor is where I left it.
>> >
>> > Isn't it supposed to read the document until the end? Or at least until
>> > we stop it? I tried Notepad, QRead, even Notepad++. The behaviour is the
>> > same, so I presume I haven't configured NVDA correctly, but I can't
>> > guess which setting is to be modified.
>> >
>> > Thank you very much for enlightening me on this. I'd love to be able to
>> > enjoy this book without having to go down line by line.
>> >
>> > Warm regards,
>> >
>> > vlad.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>





Re: Say all

Gene
 

Are you saying you have to be using object navigation and not flat review?  I've never compared.  But your terms don't match any NVDA terms for navigation and review settings.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 2:46 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Say all

You have to be in global screen nave not screen nav for that one to work
though.
 It is actually what I use to avoid moving the cursor when reading and is
actually the say all command in Dolphins Supernova.
 Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: "Gene" <gsasner@...>; <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 7:55 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Say all


There is another way you may be able to listen to the file even if other
suggestions don't work.  Use the command numpad plus.  There are three keys
on the last up and down column of the numpad.  the top one is a regular size
key.  The second one is a long key and the third is another long key.  You
want the second key, the first long one from the top rightmost column of the
numpad.  At the beginning of the file, press that key.  Reading should start
at the beginning and continue.  If you want or need to stop, pay careful
attention to where you are stopping.  Remember a number of words in their
correct order.  Write them down if you aren't sure you will remember them.
You will have to find those words, using the Notepad search command control
f.  I am not explaining all you need to know to use the search.  If you
listen to the file in this way, the review position will change but it
appears it is not exactly where you stopped reading.  If you move to the
exact position where you stop in terms of where the actual cursor is, you
can press the key you pressed before and reading will start from where you
left off.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Gene
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 1:38 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Say all


The numpad 2 key is for read current character when used by itself.  When
used with numpad insert It moves you into a navigator object inside of the
one you are in.  for example, if you are in an object that says Wordpad
window but you aren't in the actual window, that command will move the
navigator review into the window.  these are NVDA commands.  They aren't
related to the problem being discussed.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Jacob Kruger
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 1:21 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Say all


This can also happen pretty much exactly like this if you use the numpad 2
key instead of the actual down arrow key?




Stay well




Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"...resistance is futile...but, acceptance is versatile..."

On 2018-10-19 6:39 AM, Gene wrote:

  I don't see what the synthesizer would have to do with the problem.  I've
seen the same thing happen once in awhile.  the cursor doesn't move down as
text is read and after a little while, reading stops.

  Gene
  ----- Original Message -----

  From: Tyler Spivey
  Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2018 11:02 PM
  To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
  Subject: Re: [nvda] Say all


  This is most likely a problem with your synthesizer. Try another one.
  On 10/18/2018 3:52 PM, Vlad Dragomir wrote:
  > Dear fellow users,
  >
  > I hope someone will be able to tell me what I am doing wrong here.
  >
  > I have a big .txt file, and I thought I would just sit back and ask NVDA
  > to read it to me by pressing the usual command, insert+down arrow.
  > Unfortunately after two or three paragraphs, the reading stops, and the
  > cursor is still at the beginning of the file. If I go down with the
  > arrow keys and find the place where it stopped reading, it does
  > continue, but again only for about a minute, and it stops again. Once
  > more, the cursor is where I left it.
  >
  > Isn't it supposed to read the document until the end? Or at least until
  > we stop it? I tried Notepad, QRead, even Notepad++. The behaviour is the
  > same, so I presume I haven't configured NVDA correctly, but I can't
  > guess which setting is to be modified.
  >
  > Thank you very much for enlightening me on this. I'd love to be able to
  > enjoy this book without having to go down line by line.
  >
  > Warm regards,
  >
  > vlad.
  >
  >
  >











Re: NVDA with Links and Attachments Continued

Gene
 

But I really doubt that the less than and greater than signs turn the text in between into a link.  It may do something like allow some e-mail programs to work with it as a link when you press enter on it but I doubt it looks like a link when someone is typing a message.  Perhaps someone who visually sees such links when composing will comment.  One question is whether the links appear twice in the message under composition or only after being sent in the copy to the recipient or in the sent messages folder and whether the link is shown as just text or in some way as a link in the message under composition.
 
Also, I don't think this has anything to do with whether the message is written as plain text or HTML.  Again, someone who has visually seen both may wish to comment.  My guess is that, when a message is sent, some e-mail clients place the less than and greater sign around the second copy of the link so that all clients can work with the link.  Just as an e-mail address has a less than and greater sign surrounding it, I suspect the principle is the same.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 2:36 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA with Links and Attachments Continued

Often if you look at emails in html in a text reader, in addition to any
html you often see links and email addresses twice, ie once in text and
again surrounded by greater than and less than characters, and on email
addresses with mailto inside the  greater than lesser than areas.
 I think its all down to how you send the text. In my email client  it is
supposed to send in plain text, but Microsoft in their infinite wisdom seem
to manage to make links into links when its sent for those reading in html.
Not all clients work this way but many can be set up that way in settings.

Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2018 9:45 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA with Links and Attachments Continued


Proofreading a message is not the same as receiving a message.  Proofreading
a message being composed will usually not show links as links, as far as I
know.  As far as I know, this is JAWS doing what a screen-reader shouldn't
do, pretending something is being shown as a link when it isn't and is just
text as far as a sighted person reading a message they are composing is
concerned.  But if I'm wrong, I hope to be corrected.  I've never checked
this.  But JAWS didn't used to announce link and NVDA doesn't.

If someone receives a message from you and you have written a link properly,
www.rest of link or http://www.rest of link, if that person doesn't see the
structure as a linkk, that's their problem.  Maybe they are reading mail as
plain text and maybe their e-mail program doesn't show mail as a link in
plain text.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: David Russell
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2018 2:12 PM
To: nvda
Subject: [nvda] NVDA with Links and Attachments Continued


Hello Everyone,

Gene, I understand what you are saying about links and will send
myself a test message. However, If I copy and paste a YouTube link, or
a specified URL is typed in an email, as I proof-read my email,
oftentimes the word 'link' will not be heard with the URL. In some
cases, people have told me that the URL did not get received by them
as a link, only the URL itself. Moreover, the same is observed to
occur on Facebook.
Test:
www.abc.com

At one point in the past, it seems typed URL's did automatically
appear with a link in one's email and not too terribly long ago..
I'll send this communication to myself as well, thank you.

--
David Russell
david.sonofhashem@...









Re: SAPI-specific settings not saving when changing to another voice

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

Yess I've noticed this too. I can relaunch nvda and find it reverts to some arbitrary setting from the past. I do not use these voices enough to actually troubleshoot it.
I always suspected I'd just not saved the settings somewhere.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Nicolai Svendsen" <chojiro1990@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 12:32 PM
Subject: [nvda] SAPI-specific settings not saving when changing to another voice


Hi,

I have always wondered why this is.

When I am using SAPI 4 and SAPI 5 voices, the speech rate and volume revert whenever I use the ring of synthesizer speech settings and change to another voice. This is the same when I do this using the Speech category in the NVDA settings dialog CTRL+NVDA+V.

What is the reason for that? It seems to be the only synthesizer with that behavior that I’ve seen.

Thanks!

Nicolai

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Re: Say all

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Have you isolated it to one voice or all their voices?
I would just tell them how it is and they should be able to test it, and if they have a driver issue or think nvda is in need of a change the ball is in their court. I'd also say that if it will not do as you wanted it, then maybe they should refund your money and remove the registration for the dodgy voices.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Vlad Dragomir" <vladdragomir1983@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 10:06 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Say all


Good morning,

Thanks for all the suggestions, I am very grateful to all those who answered.

After further testing, I believe those who said it was a synthesizer thing were right in this case. Here are my findings:

I double checked and Word Wrap was selected in Notepad.
I tried Say All once more and the reading stopped after the first three or four lines again.
I asked it to spell the first line as suggested, with insert+up arrow twice quickly, and it only reported the first character of the first line.
I tried the same thing with two other different files, same behaviour.
I opened a web page and asked it to spell a line, same behaviour.
For all these tests I've used the Code Factory vocalizer synth, the one that I had intended to use for book reading.
Now, as soon as I switched to Eloquence, NVDA went back to behaving normally. Both "say all" and "spell the line" work perfectly now, in Notepad, Word, and Chrome.

Therefore, I have another question if you don't mind:

Should I send an e-mail to CF about this? How can I describe the problem to them? I am not a programmer, so I fear my description won't be detailed enough, and I might not be able to give them the necessary elements.

Many thanks once more, and a nice end of the week to everyone.

Vlad.


SAPI-specific settings not saving when changing to another voice

Nicolai Svendsen
 

Hi,

 

I have always wondered why this is.

 

When I am using SAPI 4 and SAPI 5 voices, the speech rate and volume revert whenever I use the ring of synthesizer speech settings and change to another voice. This is the same when I do this using the Speech category in the NVDA settings dialog CTRL+NVDA+V.

 

What is the reason for that? It seems to be the only synthesizer with that behavior that I’ve seen.

 

Thanks!

 

Nicolai

 

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Re: Speaking numbers

Peter Beasley
 

That wouldn’t work.

 

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From: marcio via Groups.Io
Sent: 19 October 2018 11:55
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Speaking numbers

 

Hi,
As I am brazilian, I don't know if this will work. But try to use "." instead of "," (1.000 instead 1,000 and so-on).

Hope this helps

Cheers,
Marcio

Em 19/10/2018 07:44, Peter Beasley escreveu:

I am using George one of the Uk English Windows one core voices and it only says thousand if there is no comma. If there is a comma, it doesn’t say thousand. Is there any way I can fix this?

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

 

 


Re: Speaking numbers

 

Hi,
As I am brazilian, I don't know if this will work. But try to use "." instead of "," (1.000 instead 1,000 and so-on).

Hope this helps

Cheers,
Marcio

Em 19/10/2018 07:44, Peter Beasley escreveu:

I am using George one of the Uk English Windows one core voices and it only says thousand if there is no comma. If there is a comma, it doesn’t say thousand. Is there any way I can fix this?

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 



Speaking numbers

Peter Beasley
 

I am using George one of the Uk English Windows one core voices and it only says thousand if there is no comma. If there is a comma, it doesn’t say thousand. Is there any way I can fix this?

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


RES: [nvda] NVDA and eclipse

Alexandre Alves Toco
 

Hi Diego!

Although eclipse uses javva virtual machine to run, it has it’s own graphic library that is a kind of wrapper to the operating system.

You can proove this by loading narrator and open eclipse. You will see that narrator can read eclipse’s object. However it won’t be able to do so in the swingset application.

 

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De: Diego Ricardo Matos
Enviado:quarta-feira, 17 de outubro de 2018 16:07
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: [nvda] NVDA and eclipse

 

Hello guys!

I am having several problems with the eclipse and NVDA.

I am programming in java language, and when I open the program, NVDA

is unable to put the focus in the program.

When I go with alt+tab and I press NvDA+t, he speaks only explorer.

It's as if NvDA is not able to interact with it, but in fact, if I

type something still works.

Another problem I have are the on-screen messages and dialogs question

NVDA can't read.

Any idea?

I have already enabled the java access bridge by painéu control, and I'm

using the jdk 8 32-bit, along with the eclipse 32-bit, NVDA 2018.3.2

and windows 10 64-bit.

What do you do?

Sorry for my english.

 

 

 


Re: Unable to read the edit field labels for the file properties in Microsoft Excel and Microsoft Word

Cearbhall O'Meadhra
 

Thank you, David,

I understand its importance now!

All the best,

Cearbhall

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@blbc.ie

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 10:36 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Unable to read the edit field labels for the file
properties in Microsoft Excel and Microsoft Word

Dear Cearbhall

Thank you for your message and for your help.

You can use the fields to specify the values of many of the file properties.
These file properties are available from the Windows File Explorer
properties dialog box (on the "Details" tab). Some people use them to help
organize and find files, and they can be useful when you want to find the
correct person to contact about fixing a problem in a file.

Thank you

David

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Re: Unable to read the edit field labels for the file properties in Microsoft Excel and Microsoft Word

David Apps
 

Dear Cearbhall

Thank you for your message and for your help.

You can use the fields to specify the values of many of the file properties. These file properties are available from the Windows File Explorer properties dialog box (on the "Details" tab). Some people use them to help organize and find files, and they can be useful when you want to find the correct person to contact about fixing a problem in a file.

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Re: Abby fine reader 12

Rui Fontes
 

Shaun,

Abby FineReader is a OCR app, not a synth...

For a OCR package, and one of the two best OCR in the world, is not highly priced...

Rui Fontes


Às 05:46 de 19/10/2018, Shaun Everiss escreveu:

Well lets not go down this track eh?
I have actually had this with an isp and my dad had the same thing with a camera maker we had issues with some devices.
They tried to say because we didn't have the right information they couldn't support things.
We managed to get the legal stuff and then they said there wasn't anything they could do.
I have had previders say we didn't have their legal software because we got it from another perfectly legal source just not their high priced one.
After paying for that, we had to buy another updated something that cost tripple the price.
We simply switched.
I wish that prices for some of this stuff was a bit lower for multivoice packages for things.
On 10/19/2018 5:41 PM, Gene wrote:
It isn't permitted to support illegal software on the list.

Gene, Moderator
----- Original Message -----

From: Jackie
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2018 11:14 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Abby fine reader 12


I rather suspected. That may very well be the problem. That is typical
behavior when a program is not legally purchased. & because that is
the case, I suspect the list moderators, if they're anything like me
on my lists, won't be any too happy about requests for help under
those circumstances. That's pure speculation on my part, of course,
but somehow I don't think I'm too far off the mark, because asking for
help w/illegally obtained software tends to put list owners &
administrators in a very tenuous position.

On 10/18/18, farhan israk <fahim.net.2014@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm using crack. I have reinstalled it. Problem didn't solve.

On Fri, 19 Oct 2018, 2:16 am Gene, <gsasner@gmail.com> wrote:

You may be able to correct the problem but do you care about saving
formatting?  You can use control a to select all, copy it to the
clipboard,
then paste it into a word processor or Notepad.  You can then save the
pasted document.  You can use Notepad if you just want a text file and
you
don't care about losing formatting.  If you save it as a word processor
document, I don't know if you will lose formatting or if it will change.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
*From:* farhan israk <fahim.net.2014@gmail.com>
*Sent:* Thursday, October 18, 2018 1:26 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* [nvda] Abby fine reader 12

I'm using abby fine reader 12. I'm not able to save file. If I press ctrl
+ s, nothing happens. When I attempt to close abby fine reader, it asks
me
I want to save or not. After pressing yes and doing everything when I
press
enter on save, it shows internal error. How to fix it?



Re: Microsoft word question

Rui Fontes
 

Sorry, is a NVDA global command, not a Word specific command.

Rui

Às 03:30 de 19/10/2018, Pranav Lal escreveu:

Rui,
<snip As I said, the hotkey is NVDA+End.
PL] Many thanks. I checked the application specific hotkeys in the NVDA manual and was unable to find this hotkey. Where is it given?
Pranav


Re: Microsoft word question

Rui Fontes
 

Hi!

Section 5.2 - Navigate with system focus...

Rui


Às 03:30 de 19/10/2018, Pranav Lal escreveu:

Rui,
<snip As I said, the hotkey is NVDA+End.
PL] Many thanks. I checked the application specific hotkeys in the NVDA manual and was unable to find this hotkey. Where is it given?
Pranav


Re: Say all

Vlad Dragomir
 

Good morning,

Thanks for all the suggestions, I am very grateful to all those who answered.

After further testing, I believe those who said it was a synthesizer thing were right in this case. Here are my findings:

I double checked and Word Wrap was selected in Notepad.
I tried Say All once more and the reading stopped after the first three or four lines again.
I asked it to spell the first line as suggested, with insert+up arrow twice quickly, and it only reported the first character of the first line.
I tried the same thing with two other different files, same behaviour.
I opened a web page and asked it to spell a line, same behaviour.
For all these tests I've used the Code Factory vocalizer synth, the one that I had intended to use for book reading.
Now, as soon as I switched to Eloquence, NVDA went back to behaving normally. Both "say all" and "spell the line" work perfectly now, in Notepad, Word, and Chrome.

Therefore, I have another question if you don't mind:

Should I send an e-mail to CF about this? How can I describe the problem to them? I am not a programmer, so I fear my description won't be detailed enough, and I might not be able to give them the necessary elements.

Many thanks once more, and a nice end of the week to everyone.

Vlad.


Re: Unable to read the edit field labels for the file properties in Microsoft Excel and Microsoft Word

Cearbhall O'Meadhra
 

David,

No problem at all! I saw your entry on Github. Glad to have been able to
confirm it.

When would you use this form? I have never had any reason to look for it
myself.

All the best,

Cearbhall

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Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 12:00 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Unable to read the edit field labels for the file
properties in Microsoft Excel and Microsoft Word

Dear Cearbhall

Thank you so much for confirming that. I am sorry for my delay in replying
to your message. It took me a while before I had time to create the issue on
GitHub:

https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/8855

Thank you again

David

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Re: Say all

Jacob Kruger
 

Sorry, meant numpad +, - "Reads from the review cursor up to end of
current text, moving the review cursor as it goes".

As in, sounded almost like that was what happening.

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile...but, acdceptance is versatile..."
On 2018-10-19 8:38 AM, Gene wrote:
The numpad 2 key is for read current character when used by itself.
When used with numpad insert It moves you into a navigator object inside
of the one you are in. for example, if you are in an object that says
Wordpad window but you aren't in the actual window, that command will
move the navigator review into the window. these are NVDA commands.
They aren't related to the problem being discussed.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Jacob Kruger
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 1:21 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Say all

This can also happen pretty much exactly like this if you use the numpad
2 key instead of the actual down arrow key?


Stay well


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"...resistance is futile...but, acceptance is versatile..."
On 2018-10-19 6:39 AM, Gene wrote:
I don't see what the synthesizer would have to do with the problem.
I've seen the same thing happen once in awhile. the cursor doesn't
move down as text is read and after a little while, reading stops.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Tyler Spivey
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2018 11:02 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Say all

This is most likely a problem with your synthesizer. Try another one.
On 10/18/2018 3:52 PM, Vlad Dragomir wrote:
Dear fellow users,

I hope someone will be able to tell me what I am doing wrong here.

I have a big .txt file, and I thought I would just sit back and ask NVDA
to read it to me by pressing the usual command, insert+down arrow.
Unfortunately after two or three paragraphs, the reading stops, and the
cursor is still at the beginning of the file. If I go down with the
arrow keys and find the place where it stopped reading, it does
continue, but again only for about a minute, and it stops again. Once
more, the cursor is where I left it.

Isn't it supposed to read the document until the end? Or at least until
we stop it? I tried Notepad, QRead, even Notepad++. The behaviour is the
same, so I presume I haven't configured NVDA correctly, but I can't
guess which setting is to be modified.

Thank you very much for enlightening me on this. I'd love to be able to
enjoy this book without having to go down line by line.

Warm regards,

vlad.




Re: Tables are not recognized on a computer but are on another

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Just a thought, have you tried, say Foirefox or other browsers to see if it is nvda, machine windows or the browser.

Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Cleverson Casarin Uliana" <clul@mm.st>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 2:11 AM
Subject: [nvda] Tables are not recognized on a computer but are on another


Hi all, in both my computer at home and at my workplace, I use NVDA 2018.3.2, and the Waterfox browser 64-bit. The only difference is that here at home I have Windows 10 and at my workplace it is Windows 7. There at my workplace, NVDA recognizes a bigger number of tables while browsing the web than it recognizes here at home. There are several places in some pages where I can't use the control+alt+arrows commands to navigate the tables when I am at home, because NVDA says I'm not at a table cell. Then when I go to the same page there at my workplace, it recognizes such tables normally. I have confirmed that I am using the same settings related to tables at the NVDA document formating section. Do you have an idea what's the explanation for this please?

Thanks,
Cleverson