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Re: NVDA and eclipse

Isaac Porat
 

Hello


Eclipse although written in java does not use Swing, it uses SWT, the Standard Widget Toolkit, which does not require the java access bridge, it should work with NVDA out of the box.


Although not recently, I used Eclipse with NVDA for years, various issues were address over the years.

I checked just now my Eclipse version and it works fine.


Have a look at Eclipse accessibility which is one of the topics here:
https://help.eclipse.org/luna/index.jsp?topic=%2Forg.eclipse.platform.doc.user%2Fconcepts%2Faccessibility%2Faccessmain.htm

After you start Eclipse, when you press Alt do you get the menu?

Regards
Isaac

On 18/10/2018 16:12, David Apps wrote:
Dear Diego Ricardo Matos

Java 8 works with NVDA 2018.2.3. According to "java -version", I am using version 1.8.0_181.

Thank you

David

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Re: Closing the Speech Viewer

Ralf Kefferpuetz
 

Or you cann assign a hotkey for the speech viewer. It toggles the speech window on or off…

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Montag, 22. Oktober 2018 07:17
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Closing the Speech Viewer

 

You can alt+tab to the speech viewer and then alt+f4 to close it.  The speech view shows a transcript of what NVDA reads.  Visually it sits on top of other windows so it is always visible - using the mouse, you can click on the window instead of alt+tabbing to it, but you then still need to alt+f4 to close it. You can also close it from NVDA's tools menu (the same way you opened it).

 

Having said that, it shouldn't stop you opening another NVDA window - I just opened speech viewer and then opened the general settings window and it happily let me have both open.  Have you perhaps got an NVDA settings window open already?

 

Regards

 

Quentin.

 

On Sat, Oct 20, 2018 at 11:03 PM Ralf Kefferpuetz <ralf.kefferpuetz@...> wrote:

It gives you a window where you can review what was spoken from NVDA.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Peter Beasley
Sent: Samstag, 20. Oktober 2018 10:58
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Closing the Speech Viewer

 

What does speech viewer do? I have never used it.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: 19 October 2018 19:49
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Closing the Speech Viewer

 

Well think about this for a moment. You do not want to close that window

using normal things so as far as I'm aware, alt/f4 closes it. If any other

combination was use it might go away when its actually needed!

Brian

 

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Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 4:41 PM

Subject: [nvda] Closing the Speech Viewer

 

 

Hello,

 

Is there a way to close the Speech Viewer? Whenever it is up, I can't bring

up the NVDA dialog (via Insert N) to change settings. I am given an error

message that another dialog is already open, and am forced to close NVDA.

 

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Re: Closing the Speech Viewer

Quentin Christensen
 

You can alt+tab to the speech viewer and then alt+f4 to close it.  The speech view shows a transcript of what NVDA reads.  Visually it sits on top of other windows so it is always visible - using the mouse, you can click on the window instead of alt+tabbing to it, but you then still need to alt+f4 to close it. You can also close it from NVDA's tools menu (the same way you opened it).

Having said that, it shouldn't stop you opening another NVDA window - I just opened speech viewer and then opened the general settings window and it happily let me have both open.  Have you perhaps got an NVDA settings window open already?

Regards

Quentin.

On Sat, Oct 20, 2018 at 11:03 PM Ralf Kefferpuetz <ralf.kefferpuetz@...> wrote:

It gives you a window where you can review what was spoken from NVDA.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Peter Beasley
Sent: Samstag, 20. Oktober 2018 10:58
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Closing the Speech Viewer

 

What does speech viewer do? I have never used it.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: 19 October 2018 19:49
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Closing the Speech Viewer

 

Well think about this for a moment. You do not want to close that window

using normal things so as far as I'm aware, alt/f4 closes it. If any other

combination was use it might go away when its actually needed!

Brian

 

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To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>

Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 4:41 PM

Subject: [nvda] Closing the Speech Viewer

 

 

Hello,

 

Is there a way to close the Speech Viewer? Whenever it is up, I can't bring

up the NVDA dialog (via Insert N) to change settings. I am given an error

message that another dialog is already open, and am forced to close NVDA.

 

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Re: determining the color of a text in Excel with NVDA

Quentin Christensen
 

I did also reply to Brian's other thread on this topic, and while I'm just personally interested in the discussion, I realised no-one has actually answered Mary's original question yet.  While you can't specifically have NVDA decode negative numbers which aren't formatted as such, you can have NVDA report when the font colour changes.  This would be most useful where you spreadsheet contains say all black text except for negative numbers.  To do that, press NVDA+CONTROL+D to open the document formatting options, then press alt+c to jump to "colour".  Press spacebar to toggle whether that is checked (you want it checked to report colour changes), and press ENTER to close the settings.  Now when you get to a negative number, NVDA should report it as "bright red".

As for why it is reported as "bright red 18.00" and not "-18.00", basically, that's what the person who setup the spreadsheet told Excel to tell us.  A sighted user on the same sheet doesn't see "-18.00", they see "18.00" in bright red, and interpret that to mean -18.  In the same way if the actual contents of the cell are "=A1-B1" they see the number, not the formula, unless you press CONTROL+` to toggle displaying formulas instead of values.

I can see Brian's argument for overriding the specified formatting here, but would have to then ask back - in which cases should we override what the creator of the spreadsheet has deliberately setup, and in which cases should we defer to what they wanted?

Regards

Quentin.

On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 4:20 PM Pranav Lal <pranav.lal@...> wrote:
Hi all,

Can someone share a sample sheet with this kind of formatting?

Pranav






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Re: IntelliJ Idea and PyCharm with NVDA

Bogdan Onyshenko
 

Hi everyone! I think I have a reason to come back to this topic. I managed to get to work PHPstorm with NVDA. Latest stable version, but i ran into a problem. After entering line of code if autocomplission is on NVDA doesn't read code if I am navigating around it with a cursor before I press ALT+Tab and focusing on an other window. After that I have to return to IDE's Window and then it works normaly before I enter somethin else. Since storm based on Intelij idea, I thought meybe someone had a same issue? If so did you managed to solve it somehow? Thank in Advance.


OCR programs

enes sarıbaş
 

hi all,

Is finereader the best OCR package available? Or are there better ones?


Re: Voice Activation with NVDA

Sky Mundell
 

No. Dictation bridge will work with Windows speech recognition.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ann
Byrne
Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2018 7:28 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Voice Activation with NVDA

Do you have to have dragon to use dictation bridge???
At 07:19 PM 10/21/2018, you wrote:
Hi all,

You can find dictationBridge at http://dictationbridge.com. It is
open source. It works with Dragon and windows speech-recognition and
does allow you to control the computer hands free using NVDA.

Note:
Cortana is different from Dragon and WSR.

Pranav



Re: Voice Activation with NVDA

Ann Byrne
 

Do you have to have dragon to use dictation bridge???

At 07:19 PM 10/21/2018, you wrote:
Hi all,

You can find dictationBridge at http://dictationbridge.com. It is open source. It works with Dragon and windows speech-recognition and does allow you to control the computer hands free using NVDA.

Note:
Cortana is different from Dragon and WSR.

Pranav



Thunderbird issues from Github

Ethan
 

Hello all,

This is a few questions for users using Thunderbir with and without braille. I was wondering if anyone could confirm if these issues still exist?


When using NVDA with braille, does the braille display show "collapsed" when arrowing through a message list or treeview in Thunderbird?

Thank you for your continued help with the NVDA issue tracker.

Ethan


Re: winamp is on ninite

Gene
 

I can't tell from this article if there is anything new that matters to most users.  Those who know more technically may want to discuss the matter after looking at this article, which contains the complete changelog, discussing changes from the last version of Winamp. 
Gene

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bobby Vinton
Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2018 8:37 AM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] winamp is on ninite

Just to let you all know win amp is now on www.ninite.com.  I am wondering if the new version is any better than the older versions? Just let me know and I will install it.

















Re: Accessibility of Math's content

Waqas Ramzan
 

Hi,
Ghanks a lot for your promlt reply. I'll follow the both references

On October 20, 2018 7:53:24 PM "Jason White via Groups.Io" <jason=jasonjgw.net@groups.io> wrote:

My advice would be to learn LaTeX. There are excellent tutorials online, for
example http://latex.silmaril.ie/formattinginformation/index.html
Although this one needs to be supplemented by other material that covers
writing mathematical content.

I would also recommend subscribing to the blindmath@nfbnet.org mailing list
and asking further questions there.

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Waqas Ramzan
Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2018 8:37 AM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Accessibility of Math's content

Good day fellows,
Posting here for the first time although member for 2 years.
Is anyone here experienced with reading and writing Mathematical content.
Which software do you use and how is its accessibility with our beloved
NVDA? I've heard of something called Math ML but I think we cannot directly
write something in Math ML. And there exists a software called MatLab that
is used widely. Can we use it with NVDA?
Please do not recommend Ms Excel as it's more of a database thing. I want
actual math writing same as on paper. Proper placement of exponents, base,
whole, underroot etc.
Looking forward for your valuable recommendations.
Warm Regards,
Waqas.








Re: Voice Activation with NVDA

Rechell Schwartz <rechell_schwartz@...>
 

Thank you. Do you need to have either Dragon or Windows Speech Recognition (I.e., on Windows 10) to use the Dictation Bridge?

Thanks,
Rechell Schwartz
Guardian Life Insurance Company
IT - BTS Group UI/UX
(212)919-3853

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Pranav Lal
Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2018 8:19 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Voice Activation with NVDA


[EXTERNAL]

Hi all,

You can find dictationBridge at https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__dictationbridge.com&d=DwIFaQ&c=tgH_BtXR-501zcdE8-dvRgEg8aWmdQ-cSUXqw1qnbGU&r=doKEWVgxnbFIqe8hzuRxDkSmgEMtZruv5IW4zhydrys&m=qxqd4Tpaj4QepX0v1zOqkmZRqLjOD1hhLD0Xr_YPEt0&s=8rsJeo8_0Flmgms1xX8qPY6zfPC7BcScRV4Of9tY7xg&e=. It is open source. It works with Dragon and windows speech-recognition and does allow you to control the computer hands free using NVDA.

Note:
Cortana is different from Dragon and WSR.

Pranav





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Re: winamp is on ninite

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

I had the new beta version but decided to reinstall winamp 5.666. Even though the volume is low, I can hear when I play the oldies station I like to listen to.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2018 3:28 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] winamp is on ninite

 

I don’t believe I was assuming anything. I merely reported that the stream was  coming through “loud and clear” on my own version of the programme, which is not the new beta, but v5.666. I asked her if she had tried with that version and had experienced the same volume issue, and she said yes.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: October 21, 2018 4:49 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] winamp is on ninite

 

You are assuming that the station is streaming at its correct volume.  Did you try other streams?  did you stream the station in the old player very shortly before installing and trying the new Winamp?  Never assume.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: JM Casey

Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2018 2:16 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] winamp is on ninite

 

I wonder if the pre-amp is even working, then?
Did you have this problem with Winamp 5.666?

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: October 21, 2018 3:04 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] winamp is on ninite

I tried doing both the system tray and with the equalizer and nothing worked. The volume is as high as it'll go and it's still very low. I don't know what else to do.

Rosemarie



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2018 11:55 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] winamp is on ninite

That probably has little to do with winamp.
Couple of things you could try if you haven't:
Make sure Winamp has a high enough volume set in your Windows audio mixer. You can get to it from the system tray. If you have Windows 10, you can control the output volume of the various applications that use audio. Not good for fine-tuning in my experience, but if you find a programme always has a low volume, it doesn't hurt to check.
Make sure the volume in Winamp is high enough. Up and down arrows usually control this, as you probably know.

Finally, winamp has a pre-amp as well. This is for boosting the amplitude of sounds that have a low output volume, IE, the volume of the stream or file itself is low. Open the equalizer with alt-g. You'll probably have to ctrl-tab to put focus on the equalizer. Then, hit the grave accent key to increase the preamp power. You don't want to do this too much or else you'll get distortion. Just boost the sound until it's comfortable.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: October 21, 2018 2:10 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] winamp is on ninite

I just tried the new winamp but I don't think it's that much better. I just tried listening to an oldies station and the volume was very low.



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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bobby Vinton
Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2018 8:37 AM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] winamp is on ninite

Just to let you all know win amp is now on www.ninite.com.  I am wondering if the new version is any better than the older versions? Just let me know and I will install it.
















Re: Unable to read the edit field labels for the file properties in Microsoft Excel and Microsoft Word

enes sarıbaş
 

hi,

Is this a UIA issue or NVDA caused issue?


On 10/22/2018 1:39 AM, Quentin Christensen wrote:
Hi everyone,

Just catching up on this as I've been away for a few days.  I too can replicate the issue.  In the interim, I have two possible workarounds:

- When on one of the edit fields, press NVDA+numpad 8 (Desktop keyboard layout) or NVDA+shift+up arrow (Laptop keyboard layout) to move the review cursor to the containing object.  That reads the label and you can then type into the field as normal.  Unless you've set the review cursor to not follow focus, you can press the same keystroke when you tab to the next field.

- When tabbing through that info page, before the edit fields there is a "properties" grouping.  Press ENTER on that, and then ENTER on the first (only) option which is "Advanced properties".  That opens a traditional dialog box with more fields and options, and the labels read correctly on that dialog.

Regards

Quentin.

On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 9:02 PM Cearbhall O'Meadhra <cearbhall.omeadhra@...> wrote:
Thank you, David,

I understand its importance now!

All the best,

Cearbhall

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...


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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Apps
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 10:36 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Unable to read the edit field labels for the file
properties in Microsoft Excel and Microsoft Word

Dear Cearbhall

Thank you for your message and for your help.

You can use the fields to specify the values of many of the file properties.
These file properties are available from the Windows File Explorer
properties dialog box (on the "Details" tab). Some people use them to help
organize and find files, and they can be useful when you want to find the
correct person to contact about fixing a problem in a file.

Thank you

David

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Re: Unable to read the edit field labels for the file properties in Microsoft Excel and Microsoft Word

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi everyone,

Just catching up on this as I've been away for a few days.  I too can replicate the issue.  In the interim, I have two possible workarounds:

- When on one of the edit fields, press NVDA+numpad 8 (Desktop keyboard layout) or NVDA+shift+up arrow (Laptop keyboard layout) to move the review cursor to the containing object.  That reads the label and you can then type into the field as normal.  Unless you've set the review cursor to not follow focus, you can press the same keystroke when you tab to the next field.

- When tabbing through that info page, before the edit fields there is a "properties" grouping.  Press ENTER on that, and then ENTER on the first (only) option which is "Advanced properties".  That opens a traditional dialog box with more fields and options, and the labels read correctly on that dialog.

Regards

Quentin.


On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 9:02 PM Cearbhall O'Meadhra <cearbhall.omeadhra@...> wrote:
Thank you, David,

I understand its importance now!

All the best,

Cearbhall

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Apps
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 10:36 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Unable to read the edit field labels for the file
properties in Microsoft Excel and Microsoft Word

Dear Cearbhall

Thank you for your message and for your help.

You can use the fields to specify the values of many of the file properties.
These file properties are available from the Windows File Explorer
properties dialog box (on the "Details" tab). Some people use them to help
organize and find files, and they can be useful when you want to find the
correct person to contact about fixing a problem in a file.

Thank you

David

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Re: winamp is on ninite

Gene
 

I neglected to use Rosemary's name when responding.  That was the message I was responding to. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: JM Casey
Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2018 5:27 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] winamp is on ninite

I don’t believe I was assuming anything. I merely reported that the stream was  coming through “loud and clear” on my own version of the programme, which is not the new beta, but v5.666. I asked her if she had tried with that version and had experienced the same volume issue, and she said yes.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: October 21, 2018 4:49 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] winamp is on ninite

 

You are assuming that the station is streaming at its correct volume.  Did you try other streams?  did you stream the station in the old player very shortly before installing and trying the new Winamp?  Never assume.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: JM Casey

Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2018 2:16 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] winamp is on ninite

 

I wonder if the pre-amp is even working, then?
Did you have this problem with Winamp 5.666?

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: October 21, 2018 3:04 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] winamp is on ninite

I tried doing both the system tray and with the equalizer and nothing worked. The volume is as high as it'll go and it's still very low. I don't know what else to do.

Rosemarie



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2018 11:55 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] winamp is on ninite

That probably has little to do with winamp.
Couple of things you could try if you haven't:
Make sure Winamp has a high enough volume set in your Windows audio mixer. You can get to it from the system tray. If you have Windows 10, you can control the output volume of the various applications that use audio. Not good for fine-tuning in my experience, but if you find a programme always has a low volume, it doesn't hurt to check.
Make sure the volume in Winamp is high enough. Up and down arrows usually control this, as you probably know.

Finally, winamp has a pre-amp as well. This is for boosting the amplitude of sounds that have a low output volume, IE, the volume of the stream or file itself is low. Open the equalizer with alt-g. You'll probably have to ctrl-tab to put focus on the equalizer. Then, hit the grave accent key to increase the preamp power. You don't want to do this too much or else you'll get distortion. Just boost the sound until it's comfortable.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: October 21, 2018 2:10 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] winamp is on ninite

I just tried the new winamp but I don't think it's that much better. I just tried listening to an oldies station and the volume was very low.



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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bobby Vinton
Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2018 8:37 AM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] winamp is on ninite

Just to let you all know win amp is now on www.ninite.com.  I am wondering if the new version is any better than the older versions? Just let me know and I will install it.

















Re: Sluggish browse mode keystrokes in Google Chrome

Travis Siegel <tsiegel@...>
 

Tony, I have not had the specific problem you're discussing, and I use chrome and NVDA.  However, I have issues where NVDA skips entire chunks of web pages if I use the inverted arrow pad to navigate the page.  This doesn't happen when I use the numpad review keys, but if does happen with the stand-aloen arrow keys between the main keys and the numpad.  It happens most often on sites like amazon.com when looking at ebooks I'm planning on borrowing/buying, and on facebook.com when trying to view postings folks have made that I get emails about.  On amazon it's so bad, I don't use the arrow keys anymore to view the page content, because they miss huge chunks of the page.  But, for the problem you are having, it does manifest itself if I try to start moving through a page like amazon using the page up/down keys before the page is done loading, but otherwise, it doesn't seem to happen with any regularity.

On 10/21/2018 5:49 PM, Tony Malykh wrote:
Hi all

I have been noticing lately that many browse mode shortcuts are
sluggish in Google Chrome, especially on large web pages. Let me try
to explain what I mean with an example.

Suppose I open a large email thread (say 20 replies) in gmail in
Google Chrome. If I press H and then K, my cursor is supposed to find
the next heading, and then find the next link after that heading and
stop there. However, if I press them quickly one after the other, then
the after finding that link the cursor would jump back to the previous
heading as if I had pressed Shift+H afterwards. In other words, the
cursor would frirst find the heading, then jump to the next link, and
then it would mysteriously jump back to that heading again, all within
a short time, like within a second. I mentioned H and K just an
example - it seems that this issue can be reproduced with almost any
two browse mode commands, such as F, E, G, and so on.

Has anyone been aware of this issue? Are there any known workarounds?
One obvious workaround is for me to wait after every single browse
mode keystroke, but that would make using Chrome too anoying - I would
have to wait for about a second after pressing any browse mode
keystroke.

Actually I could reproduce this issue on the other browsers too -
Firefox and IE, although on a much lesser scale. In both Firefox and
IE you need to press these keystroeks really quickly together (maybe
less than 0.1 seconds apart to reproduce it, which probably wouldn't
affect anyone. This bug is only bothersome in Chrome.

I'm using the latest NVDA 2018.3.2 and the latest Windows 10. I have a
modern laptop, so this is not an issue of running out of CPU or
memory. I don't have too many tabs open and I don't have other
programs running.

Best regards
Tony



Re: Sluggish browse mode keystrokes in Google Chrome

Tony Malykh
 

I am using gmail HTML interface, and I'm not aware of it being changed
recently. I provided gmail as an example, because this bug reproduces
with nearly 100% chance only on gmail as long as keystrokes are issued
quicly enough. I can provide you more examples, but for these other
web sites the reproducibility rate falls down to about 50%.

https://www.engadget.com/2018/10/21/facebook-may-buy-large-cybersecurity-company/
Press H K

https://www.reddit.com/
Press H H K

https://news.ycombinator.com/
Press K T

So it seems like gmail is doing something to only exacerbate this bug.
I can provide many more websites - I think I can reproduce this bug
with 50% chance on many major websites.


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Hmm is this the new gmail interface?
Does this affect othr sites as well.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Tony Malykh" <anton.malykh@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2018 10:49 PM
Subject: [nvda] Sluggish browse mode keystrokes in Google Chrome


Hi all

I have been noticing lately that many browse mode shortcuts are
sluggish in Google Chrome, especially on large web pages. Let me try
to explain what I mean with an example.

Suppose I open a large email thread (say 20 replies) in gmail in
Google Chrome. If I press H and then K, my cursor is supposed to find
the next heading, and then find the next link after that heading and
stop there. However, if I press them quickly one after the other, then
the after finding that link the cursor would jump back to the previous
heading as if I had pressed Shift+H afterwards. In other words, the
cursor would frirst find the heading, then jump to the next link, and
then it would mysteriously jump back to that heading again, all within
a short time, like within a second. I mentioned H and K just an
example - it seems that this issue can be reproduced with almost any
two browse mode commands, such as F, E, G, and so on.

Has anyone been aware of this issue? Are there any known workarounds?
One obvious workaround is for me to wait after every single browse
mode keystroke, but that would make using Chrome too anoying - I would
have to wait for about a second after pressing any browse mode
keystroke.

Actually I could reproduce this issue on the other browsers too -
Firefox and IE, although on a much lesser scale. In both Firefox and
IE you need to press these keystroeks really quickly together (maybe
less than 0.1 seconds apart to reproduce it, which probably wouldn't
affect anyone. This bug is only bothersome in Chrome.

I'm using the latest NVDA 2018.3.2 and the latest Windows 10. I have a
modern laptop, so this is not an issue of running out of CPU or
memory. I don't have too many tabs open and I don't have other
programs running.

Best regards
Tony






Re: Voice Activation with NVDA

Pranav Lal
 

Hi all,

You can find dictationBridge at http://dictationbridge.com. It is open source. It works with Dragon and windows speech-recognition and does allow you to control the computer hands free using NVDA.

Note:
Cortana is different from Dragon and WSR.

Pranav


Re: Free Spanish Plugins

Rechell Schwartz <rechell_schwartz@...>
 

I tried installing the Core Voice for Spanish, but when I go to the Languages section in Control panel it doesn’t give me an option for Speech à Downlaod. Any insight?

 

Thanks,

Rechell Schwartz

Guardian Life Insurance Company

IT - BTS Group UI/UX

(212)919-3853

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerardo Corripio
Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2018 9:04 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Free Spanish Plugins

 

[EXTERNAL]

 

Yes that’s what I plan on doing, since I’ll get a new Laptop in the coming weeks.

Gera

Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel


El 21 oct 2018, a la(s) 8:01 a. m., Josh Kennedy <joshknnd1982@...> escribió:

then perhaps you could use the windows10 OneCore spanish voices.


 


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