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Re: NVDA and ribbon menues

Don H
 

Please explain the ribbon remover please.  Is this a Windows addon Chrome addon or what?

On 11/2/2018 3:36 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
This is a huge can of worms. I personally feel that they are dire for blind users, but some people on here think that once you grasp the concept they are in fact easy.
Its a classic case of the way your brain visualises the concepts.
I did notice Jaws can be set to pretend they are normal menus, but my feeling here is that since you can use a simple add on to alter them  ie ribbon remover, then I see no reason why Microsoft do not offer the themselves, but in a recent interview with Jenny at Microsoft she merely said, Embrace the ribbon, which I took to mean  they are dogmatically against it.
Bah humbug I say.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Don H" <lmddh50@adams.net>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2018 6:46 PM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA and ribbon menues


Running latest NVDA and Win 10 1809.

The old addage of teaching a old dog new tricks fits this situation. Having great difficulty in using the ribbon while in file explorer. Are there any tutorials as how to use such ribbons?

Thanks








Re: Adding comments in Word

Mallard
 

Thanks to you too. Sounds nice and easy...


Ciao,

Ollie

Il 02/11/2018 13:35, Ann Byrne ha scritto:
According to my trusty document of key tips,

add a comment: alt+r, then c.
next comment: alt+r, then n.
previous comment: alt+r, then v.

At 05:36 AM 11/2/2018, you wrote:
Thanks Rick,


Sounds very interesting. I'll pass it on to Federico.

I'll let ou know if he manages to do what he needs to do with comments.

Ciao,

Ollie





Il 02/11/2018 11:19, Rick ha scritto:
Hello Sylvie and Ollie:

I am not sure why moving to the next and previous comments shortcut keys do
not work. I am running the latest desktop version of Word in Office 365. One
way to find out the actual shortcut key is by navigating the ribbon. Press
Alt+R. This will place you in the Review tab of the ribbon, where the
commenting feature resides. Now press Ctrl+right arrow until you hear
comments grouping. On my version of Word, I needed to press it 5 times. Once
there, use the Tab key until you hear previous button. NVDA should also tell
you the shortcut key. Pressing Tab one more time should get you to the Next
button where again, NVDA should let you know the shortcut. On my version of
Word, there are 4 buttons in the comments group of the Review tab. The first
is to insert a comment, the second is to delete a comment, the third is to
move to the previous comment and the fourth is to move to the next comment.

Navigating the ribbon is a great way to learn shortcut key combinations for
future reference.

Rick

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mallard
Sent: Friday, November 2, 2018 4:53 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Adding comments in Word

Hello Sylvie and Rick,


As a matter of fact it didn't work for him either. I don't know how he
settled the issue; maybe he decided to use footnotes instead of comments, as
he mentioned that to me over the phone.


Thanks to both of you.

Ciao,

Ollie





Il 02/11/2018 09:35, Sylvie Duchateau ha scritto:
Hello Rick, Ollie and all,

The shortcut to go to next and previous comment does not work here.

May be it is different from one language to the other.

I hope it worked for your friend Ollie

Best

Sylvie





Le 31/10/2018 à 12:59, Mallard a écrit :
Thanks Rick.


I'll pass this on too.

Ciao,

Ollie





Il 31/10/2018 11:09, Rick ha scritto:
Hello Sylvie and Ollie:

The method described by Sylvie will find more than comments if
present in a document. For example, if track changes was used to
record changes made to a document, the A key while in browse mode
will also move to those as well as comments. Furthermore, when using
the A key in browse mode, it will take you to the place in the
document where the selected text associated with the comment is, but
will not place you in the actual comment for editing, deleting or
replying.

Word has built-in keystrokes for navigating comments in a document
which will work with any screen reader. Alt+N will move to the next
comment while Alt+V will move you to a previous comment. When using
these commands, you are actually placed in the comment and can
perform the keystrokes described by Silvie to respond to or delete a
comment.

Rick

*From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of
*Sylvie Duchateau
*Sent:* Tuesday, October 30, 2018 12:17 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Adding comments in Word

Hello again Ollie,
If you enable the browsing mode in word with Nvda+spacebar, you can
jump to one comment/annotation by pressing a.
When you are on the comment you want to see, right click with the
appropriate key or shift+f10 and use the down and up arrow keys. You
will find a menu entry to modify, answer, delete or mark the comment
as closed.
You can also display the list of comments in pressing nvda+F7, you
can choose to display the list of annotations and browse through the
different comments.
If you don't know the keystroke, when NVDA says "has a comment", you
can have it read in pressing nvda+alt+C.
Enjoy!
Sylvie




Le 30/10/2018 à 16:55, Mallard a écrit :

     Hello again Sylvie,


     My friend says to thank you very much for your help, and has
     another related question:

     How can he return to a comment after exiting it with Esc?

     Thanks again, also on his behalf.

     Ciao,
     Ollie



     Il 30/10/2018 16:45, Mallard ha scritto:

         Hello syleie,


         It definitely helps, thanks! My friend will be happy to know
         that it's as simple s that!!!


         Ciao,

         Ollie





         Il 30/10/2018 15:51, Sylvie Duchateau ha scritto:


             Hello Ollie,

             When you finish writing the comment, just press escape
to
             return to the text.

             Hope this helps.

             Sylvie





             Le 30/10/2018 à 12:10, Mallard a écrit :

                 Hello all,


                 A friend of mine is a teacher. His students do their
                 homework in Word, and he needs to corect them.


                 He'd like to insert comments to explain his
                 corrections, and has found the keyboard shortcut to
do
                 so, but doesn't know how to return to the main text.


                 Would  anyone know if there's a shortcut to exit the
                 comment and return to the place in the text where he
                 left off?


                 Thanks in advance; I don't have Word installed, so I
                 can't help him.


                 Ciao,

                 Ollie

















Re: Adding comments in Word

Ann Byrne
 

According to my trusty document of key tips,

add a comment: alt+r, then c.
next comment: alt+r, then n.
previous comment: alt+r, then v.

At 05:36 AM 11/2/2018, you wrote:
Thanks Rick,


Sounds very interesting. I'll pass it on to Federico.

I'll let ou know if he manages to do what he needs to do with comments.

Ciao,

Ollie





Il 02/11/2018 11:19, Rick ha scritto:
Hello Sylvie and Ollie:

I am not sure why moving to the next and previous comments shortcut keys do
not work. I am running the latest desktop version of Word in Office 365. One
way to find out the actual shortcut key is by navigating the ribbon. Press
Alt+R. This will place you in the Review tab of the ribbon, where the
commenting feature resides. Now press Ctrl+right arrow until you hear
comments grouping. On my version of Word, I needed to press it 5 times. Once
there, use the Tab key until you hear previous button. NVDA should also tell
you the shortcut key. Pressing Tab one more time should get you to the Next
button where again, NVDA should let you know the shortcut. On my version of
Word, there are 4 buttons in the comments group of the Review tab. The first
is to insert a comment, the second is to delete a comment, the third is to
move to the previous comment and the fourth is to move to the next comment.

Navigating the ribbon is a great way to learn shortcut key combinations for
future reference.

Rick

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mallard
Sent: Friday, November 2, 2018 4:53 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Adding comments in Word

Hello Sylvie and Rick,


As a matter of fact it didn't work for him either. I don't know how he
settled the issue; maybe he decided to use footnotes instead of comments, as
he mentioned that to me over the phone.


Thanks to both of you.

Ciao,

Ollie





Il 02/11/2018 09:35, Sylvie Duchateau ha scritto:
Hello Rick, Ollie and all,

The shortcut to go to next and previous comment does not work here.

May be it is different from one language to the other.

I hope it worked for your friend Ollie

Best

Sylvie





Le 31/10/2018 à 12:59, Mallard a écrit :
Thanks Rick.


I'll pass this on too.

Ciao,

Ollie





Il 31/10/2018 11:09, Rick ha scritto:
Hello Sylvie and Ollie:

The method described by Sylvie will find more than comments if
present in a document. For example, if track changes was used to
record changes made to a document, the A key while in browse mode
will also move to those as well as comments. Furthermore, when using
the A key in browse mode, it will take you to the place in the
document where the selected text associated with the comment is, but
will not place you in the actual comment for editing, deleting or
replying.

Word has built-in keystrokes for navigating comments in a document
which will work with any screen reader. Alt+N will move to the next
comment while Alt+V will move you to a previous comment. When using
these commands, you are actually placed in the comment and can
perform the keystrokes described by Silvie to respond to or delete a
comment.

Rick

*From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of
*Sylvie Duchateau
*Sent:* Tuesday, October 30, 2018 12:17 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Adding comments in Word

Hello again Ollie,
If you enable the browsing mode in word with Nvda+spacebar, you can
jump to one comment/annotation by pressing a.
When you are on the comment you want to see, right click with the
appropriate key or shift+f10 and use the down and up arrow keys. You
will find a menu entry to modify, answer, delete or mark the comment
as closed.
You can also display the list of comments in pressing nvda+F7, you
can choose to display the list of annotations and browse through the
different comments.
If you don't know the keystroke, when NVDA says "has a comment", you
can have it read in pressing nvda+alt+C.
Enjoy!
Sylvie




Le 30/10/2018 à 16:55, Mallard a écrit :

Hello again Sylvie,


My friend says to thank you very much for your help, and has
another related question:

How can he return to a comment after exiting it with Esc?

Thanks again, also on his behalf.

Ciao,
Ollie



Il 30/10/2018 16:45, Mallard ha scritto:

Hello syleie,


It definitely helps, thanks! My friend will be happy to know
that it's as simple s that!!!


Ciao,

Ollie





Il 30/10/2018 15:51, Sylvie Duchateau ha scritto:


Hello Ollie,

When you finish writing the comment, just press escape
to
return to the text.

Hope this helps.

Sylvie





Le 30/10/2018 à 12:10, Mallard a écrit :

Hello all,


A friend of mine is a teacher. His students do their
homework in Word, and he needs to corect them.


He'd like to insert comments to explain his
corrections, and has found the keyboard shortcut to
do
so, but doesn't know how to return to the main text.


Would anyone know if there's a shortcut to exit the
comment and return to the place in the text where he
left off?


Thanks in advance; I don't have Word installed, so I
can't help him.


Ciao,

Ollie















Re: WordPress for dummies

Kerryn Gunness
 

the same for me

kerryn

----- Original Message -----
From: "John J. Boyer" <john.boyer@abilitiessoft.org>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2018 12:54 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] WordPress for dummies


I'll subscribe as soon as I have the subscription information.

John

On Thu, Nov 01, 2018 at 04:12:18PM -0700, Jackie wrote:
I did. I'll receive notification as to whether it's approved within 24
hours. I'll let everyone know then, but I'll be away this weekend, so
realistically things won't really get rolling until Monday. If
approved, it's called WordPress for Newbies.

On 11/1/18, John J. Boyer <john.boyer@abilitiessoft.org> wrote:
I don't find a WordPress list on Freelists.org I can create one. I've
already created severall lists. What could this
one be called? To start, how about blind-wordpress This name may be too
long.

Thanks,
John

On Thu, Nov 01, 2018 at 08:56:32AM -0500, John J. Boyer wrote:
There may already be a WordPress mailing list on www.freelists.org but I
haven't checked yet.

John

On Thu, Nov 01, 2018 at 07:51:49AM -0300, marcio via Groups.Io wrote:
Jackie escreveu:
You've given me something to think about though regarding the
possibility of starting a WordPress mailing list.
Jackie,
In case you start a mailing list on this, please, could you add me
there?
I'm much interested in learning more of working with Wordpress, I'm
sure
it'll be pretty good.

Thanks,
Marcio


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Email: john.boyer@abilitiessoft.org
website: http://www.abilitiessoft.org
Status: Company dissolved but website and email addresses live.
Location: Madison, Wisconsin, USA
Mission: developing assistive technology software and providing STEM
services
that are available at no cost






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Email: john.boyer@abilitiessoft.org
website: http://www.abilitiessoft.org
Status: Company dissolved but website and email addresses live.
Location: Madison, Wisconsin, USA
Mission: developing assistive technology software and providing STEM services
that are available at no cost




NVDA and Add On Updates behind a http proxy

Christian Schoepplein
 

Hi,

my workstation is using a http proxy to access the internet and it seems
like the automated updates of NVDA and Add Ons is having problems with
this setup. I am not notified when updates are available because NVDA
seems not be able to contact the regardings server(s) through the proxy.

Is this behaviour known and what can I do to let NVDA connect using the
proxy server?

Cheers,

Schoepp


Re: Adding comments in Word

Mallard
 

Thanks Rick,


Sounds very interesting. I'll pass it on to Federico.

I'll let ou know if he manages to do what he needs to do with comments.

Ciao,

Ollie

Il 02/11/2018 11:19, Rick ha scritto:
Hello Sylvie and Ollie:

I am not sure why moving to the next and previous comments shortcut keys do
not work. I am running the latest desktop version of Word in Office 365. One
way to find out the actual shortcut key is by navigating the ribbon. Press
Alt+R. This will place you in the Review tab of the ribbon, where the
commenting feature resides. Now press Ctrl+right arrow until you hear
comments grouping. On my version of Word, I needed to press it 5 times. Once
there, use the Tab key until you hear previous button. NVDA should also tell
you the shortcut key. Pressing Tab one more time should get you to the Next
button where again, NVDA should let you know the shortcut. On my version of
Word, there are 4 buttons in the comments group of the Review tab. The first
is to insert a comment, the second is to delete a comment, the third is to
move to the previous comment and the fourth is to move to the next comment.

Navigating the ribbon is a great way to learn shortcut key combinations for
future reference.

Rick

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mallard
Sent: Friday, November 2, 2018 4:53 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Adding comments in Word

Hello Sylvie and Rick,


As a matter of fact it didn't work for him either. I don't know how he
settled the issue; maybe he decided to use footnotes instead of comments, as
he mentioned that to me over the phone.


Thanks to both of you.

Ciao,

Ollie





Il 02/11/2018 09:35, Sylvie Duchateau ha scritto:
Hello Rick, Ollie and all,

The shortcut to go to next and previous comment does not work here.

May be it is different from one language to the other.

I hope it worked for your friend Ollie

Best

Sylvie





Le 31/10/2018 à 12:59, Mallard a écrit :
Thanks Rick.


I'll pass this on too.

Ciao,

Ollie





Il 31/10/2018 11:09, Rick ha scritto:
Hello Sylvie and Ollie:

The method described by Sylvie will find more than comments if
present in a document. For example, if track changes was used to
record changes made to a document, the A key while in browse mode
will also move to those as well as comments. Furthermore, when using
the A key in browse mode, it will take you to the place in the
document where the selected text associated with the comment is, but
will not place you in the actual comment for editing, deleting or
replying.

Word has built-in keystrokes for navigating comments in a document
which will work with any screen reader. Alt+N will move to the next
comment while Alt+V will move you to a previous comment. When using
these commands, you are actually placed in the comment and can
perform the keystrokes described by Silvie to respond to or delete a
comment.

Rick

*From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of
*Sylvie Duchateau
*Sent:* Tuesday, October 30, 2018 12:17 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Adding comments in Word

Hello again Ollie,
If you enable the browsing mode in word with Nvda+spacebar, you can
jump to one comment/annotation by pressing a.
When you are on the comment you want to see, right click with the
appropriate key or shift+f10 and use the down and up arrow keys. You
will find a menu entry to modify, answer, delete or mark the comment
as closed.
You can also display the list of comments in pressing nvda+F7, you
can choose to display the list of annotations and browse through the
different comments.
If you don't know the keystroke, when NVDA says "has a comment", you
can have it read in pressing nvda+alt+C.
Enjoy!
Sylvie




Le 30/10/2018 à 16:55, Mallard a écrit :

    Hello again Sylvie,


    My friend says to thank you very much for your help, and has
    another related question:

    How can he return to a comment after exiting it with Esc?

    Thanks again, also on his behalf.

    Ciao,
    Ollie



    Il 30/10/2018 16:45, Mallard ha scritto:

        Hello syleie,


        It definitely helps, thanks! My friend will be happy to know
        that it's as simple s that!!!


        Ciao,

        Ollie





        Il 30/10/2018 15:51, Sylvie Duchateau ha scritto:


            Hello Ollie,

            When you finish writing the comment, just press escape
to
            return to the text.

            Hope this helps.

            Sylvie





            Le 30/10/2018 à 12:10, Mallard a écrit :

                Hello all,


                A friend of mine is a teacher. His students do their
                homework in Word, and he needs to corect them.


                He'd like to insert comments to explain his
                corrections, and has found the keyboard shortcut to
do
                so, but doesn't know how to return to the main text.


                Would  anyone know if there's a shortcut to exit the
                comment and return to the place in the text where he
                left off?


                Thanks in advance; I don't have Word installed, so I
                can't help him.


                Ciao,

                Ollie

















Re: Adding comments in Word

Rick
 

Hello Sylvie and Ollie:

I am not sure why moving to the next and previous comments shortcut keys do
not work. I am running the latest desktop version of Word in Office 365. One
way to find out the actual shortcut key is by navigating the ribbon. Press
Alt+R. This will place you in the Review tab of the ribbon, where the
commenting feature resides. Now press Ctrl+right arrow until you hear
comments grouping. On my version of Word, I needed to press it 5 times. Once
there, use the Tab key until you hear previous button. NVDA should also tell
you the shortcut key. Pressing Tab one more time should get you to the Next
button where again, NVDA should let you know the shortcut. On my version of
Word, there are 4 buttons in the comments group of the Review tab. The first
is to insert a comment, the second is to delete a comment, the third is to
move to the previous comment and the fourth is to move to the next comment.

Navigating the ribbon is a great way to learn shortcut key combinations for
future reference.

Rick

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mallard
Sent: Friday, November 2, 2018 4:53 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Adding comments in Word

Hello Sylvie and Rick,


As a matter of fact it didn't work for him either. I don't know how he
settled the issue; maybe he decided to use footnotes instead of comments, as
he mentioned that to me over the phone.


Thanks to both of you.

Ciao,

Ollie





Il 02/11/2018 09:35, Sylvie Duchateau ha scritto:

Hello Rick, Ollie and all,

The shortcut to go to next and previous comment does not work here.

May be it is different from one language to the other.

I hope it worked for your friend Ollie

Best

Sylvie





Le 31/10/2018 à 12:59, Mallard a écrit :
Thanks Rick.


I'll pass this on too.

Ciao,

Ollie





Il 31/10/2018 11:09, Rick ha scritto:

Hello Sylvie and Ollie:

The method described by Sylvie will find more than comments if
present in a document. For example, if track changes was used to
record changes made to a document, the A key while in browse mode
will also move to those as well as comments. Furthermore, when using
the A key in browse mode, it will take you to the place in the
document where the selected text associated with the comment is, but
will not place you in the actual comment for editing, deleting or
replying.

Word has built-in keystrokes for navigating comments in a document
which will work with any screen reader. Alt+N will move to the next
comment while Alt+V will move you to a previous comment. When using
these commands, you are actually placed in the comment and can
perform the keystrokes described by Silvie to respond to or delete a
comment.

Rick

*From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of
*Sylvie Duchateau
*Sent:* Tuesday, October 30, 2018 12:17 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Adding comments in Word

Hello again Ollie,
If you enable the browsing mode in word with Nvda+spacebar, you can
jump to one comment/annotation by pressing a.
When you are on the comment you want to see, right click with the
appropriate key or shift+f10 and use the down and up arrow keys. You
will find a menu entry to modify, answer, delete or mark the comment
as closed.
You can also display the list of comments in pressing nvda+F7, you
can choose to display the list of annotations and browse through the
different comments.
If you don't know the keystroke, when NVDA says "has a comment", you
can have it read in pressing nvda+alt+C.
Enjoy!
Sylvie




Le 30/10/2018 à 16:55, Mallard a écrit :

    Hello again Sylvie,


    My friend says to thank you very much for your help, and has
    another related question:

    How can he return to a comment after exiting it with Esc?

    Thanks again, also on his behalf.

    Ciao,
    Ollie



    Il 30/10/2018 16:45, Mallard ha scritto:

        Hello syleie,


        It definitely helps, thanks! My friend will be happy to know
        that it's as simple s that!!!


        Ciao,

        Ollie





        Il 30/10/2018 15:51, Sylvie Duchateau ha scritto:


            Hello Ollie,

            When you finish writing the comment, just press escape
to
            return to the text.

            Hope this helps.

            Sylvie





            Le 30/10/2018 à 12:10, Mallard a écrit :

                Hello all,


                A friend of mine is a teacher. His students do their
                homework in Word, and he needs to corect them.


                He'd like to insert comments to explain his
                corrections, and has found the keyboard shortcut to
do
                so, but doesn't know how to return to the main text.


                Would  anyone know if there's a shortcut to exit the
                comment and return to the place in the text where he
                left off?


                Thanks in advance; I don't have Word installed, so I
                can't help him.


                Ciao,

                Ollie













Re: adding page numbers to word documents

Mallard
 

Thanks Quentin, I'll try.

Ciao,

Ollie

Il 01/11/2018 23:16, Quentin Christensen ha scritto:
Hi Ollie,

Yes, as long as you can remember the details you used to log in and purchase the material, you can download it again from: https://www.nvaccess.org/my-account/downloads/

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 7:36 PM Mallard <mallard@kimabe.eu <mailto:mallard@kimabe.eu>> wrote:

Hello Quentin,


By the way, I had bought that ebook when it was released, but for
some
reason I can't find it anywhere anymore.

Is it possible to download a new copy somehow, given that I've
already
paid for it? Or would you have any other suggestions to obtain a
new copy?

Ciao,

Ollie





Il 01/11/2018 06:59, Quentin Christensen ha scritto:
> Which version of Word are you using?
>
> All I can tell you is that it worked fine when I originally
wrote that
> section of the Microsoft Word with NVDA training material a
couple of
> years ago, and in fact I most recently went over that section of
the
> material just a week or so ago and it worked fine then too, both
with
> the most current Office 365 subscription at the time.
>
> A copy of your log here might be useful.
>
> Regards
>
> Quentin.
>
> On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 6:28 AM enes sarıbaş
<enes.saribas@gmail.com <mailto:enes.saribas@gmail.com>
> <mailto:enes.saribas@gmail.com <mailto:enes.saribas@gmail.com>>>
wrote:
>
>     hi all,
>
>     So I want to add pages to word documents. However, when I go
to the
>     insert ribbon, and click header, NVDA becomes unresponsive, and
>     the page
>     number button appears unavailable. Does anyone know how this
can be
>     achieved?
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Quentin Christensen
> Training and Support Manager
>
> Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now
available:
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Re: Problem with NVDA and some Firefox addons which activate via context menu

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I'm almost certain that the new Firefox add ons work for mouse and nothing else. I suspect Firefox as older add ons that do still run on the new one still modify the old context menu or present their settings in a different standard menu option.
Of course if you use Waterfox you can use all the old add ons and I'd suggest it works better in most other respects than the new version of Firefox does.
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Sent: Friday, November 02, 2018 1:55 AM
Subject: [nvda] Problem with NVDA and some Firefox addons which activate via context menu


Hi,
For some Firefox addons, e.g. ContextSearch (still some more, but I have already deleted and forget there names lol) mentioned that these addons can be activated via context menu.

However after installing them, I pressed keyboard aplication key to bring up the context menu inside a web page, the menu has no change. Others tested it out that the context menu only works if they use mouse to select something and right click with mouse.

Does it related to how NVDA work? or it is something that Firefo need to fix?
Thanks.
William







Re: Help Please, Downloading Spybot

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In firefox you can invoke the download list as well
Its control j
In this window you can also pull down a context menu and go directly to the download folder and other good stuff.
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From: "Gene" <gsasner@gmail.com>
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Sent: Friday, November 02, 2018 12:00 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Help Please, Downloading Spybot


Internet Explorer has a run command so you can run an installer from a web site. With firefox, save the installer, then go to it however you go to any file and run it.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: David Russell
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2018 5:28 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Help Please, Downloading Spybot


Hello Group,

I have a Windows 7 computer, NVDA 2017, Firefox 52, and am interested
to download and set up SpyBot on my computer, or even if possible, go
to their website and do a scan if that exists anymore as an option.

If I download something, I press save. Then I press alt-r to run the
setup file, but in a lot of cases, I cannot tell that I can proceed to
install the program. I can go to downloads and find the wanted file,
press enter, but it remains as it was before doing alt-r to run. What
step or steps am I missing to advance to installation?
This happened with Avast, Malware Bytes and something else a while
back. Those previous have been deleted. Thanks for the help in
advance.

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Re: Adding comments in Word

Mallard
 

Hello Sylvie and Rick,


As a matter of fact it didn't work for him either. I don't know how he settled the issue; maybe he decided to use footnotes instead of comments, as he mentioned that to me over the phone.


Thanks to both of you.

Ciao,

Ollie

Il 02/11/2018 09:35, Sylvie Duchateau ha scritto:

Hello Rick, Ollie and all,

The shortcut to go to next and previous comment does not work here.

May be it is different from one language to the other.

I hope it worked for your friend Ollie

Best

Sylvie





Le 31/10/2018 à 12:59, Mallard a écrit :
Thanks Rick.


I'll pass this on too.

Ciao,

Ollie





Il 31/10/2018 11:09, Rick ha scritto:

Hello Sylvie and Ollie:

The method described by Sylvie will find more than comments if present in a document. For example, if track changes was used to record changes made to a document, the A key while in browse mode will also move to those as well as comments. Furthermore, when using the A key in browse mode, it will take you to the place in the document where the selected text associated with the comment is, but will not place you in the actual comment for editing, deleting or replying.

Word has built-in keystrokes for navigating comments in a document which will work with any screen reader. Alt+N will move to the next comment while Alt+V will move you to a previous comment. When using these commands, you are actually placed in the comment and can perform the keystrokes described by Silvie to respond to or delete a comment.

Rick

*From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Sylvie Duchateau
*Sent:* Tuesday, October 30, 2018 12:17 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Adding comments in Word

Hello again Ollie,
If you enable the browsing mode in word with Nvda+spacebar, you can jump to one comment/annotation by pressing a.
When you are on the comment you want to see, right click with the appropriate key or shift+f10 and use the down and up arrow keys. You will find a menu entry to modify, answer, delete or mark the comment as closed.
You can also display the list of comments in pressing nvda+F7, you can choose to display the list of annotations and browse through the different comments.
If you don't know the keystroke, when NVDA says "has a comment", you can have it read in pressing nvda+alt+C.
Enjoy!
Sylvie




Le 30/10/2018 à 16:55, Mallard a écrit :

    Hello again Sylvie,


    My friend says to thank you very much for your help, and has
    another related question:

    How can he return to a comment after exiting it with Esc?

    Thanks again, also on his behalf.

    Ciao,
    Ollie



    Il 30/10/2018 16:45, Mallard ha scritto:

        Hello syleie,


        It definitely helps, thanks! My friend will be happy to know
        that it's as simple s that!!!


        Ciao,

        Ollie





        Il 30/10/2018 15:51, Sylvie Duchateau ha scritto:


            Hello Ollie,

            When you finish writing the comment, just press escape to
            return to the text.

            Hope this helps.

            Sylvie





            Le 30/10/2018 à 12:10, Mallard a écrit :

                Hello all,


                A friend of mine is a teacher. His students do their
                homework in Word, and he needs to corect them.


                He'd like to insert comments to explain his
                corrections, and has found the keyboard shortcut to do
                so, but doesn't know how to return to the main text.


                Would  anyone know if there's a shortcut to exit the
                comment and return to the place in the text where he
                left off?


                Thanks in advance; I don't have Word installed, so I
                can't help him.


                Ciao,

                Ollie













Re: Help Please, Downloading Spybot

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Are you sure they have been deleted, booth Avast and AVG these days leave systems running unless you use a bespoke removal program. I know the one for avast is avastclear.
The other thing to note is that depending on the browser some only partly download the file as at some point they say, this is a file not normally downloaded and ask you to click ann. often inaccessible button, and I have actually gone into settings and disabled this 'feature' in Firefox etc, as its a pest of the first degree.
Incidentally why not use the latest nvda?
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Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2018 10:28 PM
Subject: [nvda] Help Please, Downloading Spybot


Hello Group,

I have a Windows 7 computer, NVDA 2017, Firefox 52, and am interested
to download and set up SpyBot on my computer, or even if possible, go
to their website and do a scan if that exists anymore as an option.

If I download something, I press save. Then I press alt-r to run the
setup file, but in a lot of cases, I cannot tell that I can proceed to
install the program. I can go to downloads and find the wanted file,
press enter, but it remains as it was before doing alt-r to run. What
step or steps am I missing to advance to installation?
This happened with Avast, Malware Bytes and something else a while
back. Those previous have been deleted. Thanks for the help in
advance.

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Re: newest version of add-on updater will not download

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Hmm, well this can happen but normally one would expect an error, like unable to download or download failed.

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Sent: Friday, November 02, 2018 12:12 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] newest version of add-on updater will not download


Well, I just tried it again and it downloaded quickly.



On 11/1/18, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
Eh? May I take a look at your NVDA log please? To do so, press NVDA+F1 to
open log viewer, and copy and paste the last error you can find.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Clarissa
Mitchell
Sent: Thursday, November 1, 2018 3:04 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] newest version of add-on updater will not download

I just got notified by NVDA that there was a new version of the add-on
updater available. When I tried to download it the first time, it gave me an
error message. The second time, it acted like it was starting to download,
but it stayed stuck at 0% for ages and seemed to do nothing.







Re: Problems with latest firefox and NVDA with more than 1 tab

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Yes the 32 bit versions are nearly all an issue in nvda. I have not used it extensively but firefox 63 in windows 10 64 bit is now working OK. Interestingly though, the previous better was atrocious and crashed or would not display contents of pages no matter which version I used. I would advise using Waterfox as a back up browser.
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Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2018 9:34 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Problems with latest firefox and NVDA with more than 1 tab


If you have a 64bit windows then try the 64bit firefox to see if that’s any better, rather than using the 32bit firefox



From: mk360
Sent: 01 November 2018 21:20
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Problems with latest firefox and NVDA with more than 1 tab

Hi,


I've many problems with the actual version of Firefox, 63.0.1 32b and
NVDA alfa (actually two days)


Basically, every time I try to open a second tab with control shift
enter Firefox crashes and when I reload it FF crash again, until I use
shift enter to open the progra,, open the restart menu and start it
again. The pages I'm trying are www.elmostrador.cl and
www.dimeadozen.org also if I try to open for example,
translate.google.com from the Firefox that I loaded using shift enter
(from the desktop) Firefox crashes.

What is happening? is the unstable version of NVDA or is Firefox?


Regards,

mk.


Re: NVDA and ribbon menues

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I present this little zip file. It carries no warranteeeeeee of any kind, and if it works for you every windows 10 major update will need it to be run again.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/e33qzsnvik9ebhe/RibbonDisabler.zip?dl=1

Let us know how it goes. It only does Windows Exploder though nothing else.
Brian


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Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2018 6:46 PM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA and ribbon menues


Running latest NVDA and Win 10 1809.

The old addage of teaching a old dog new tricks fits this situation. Having great difficulty in using the ribbon while in file explorer. Are there any tutorials as how to use such ribbons?

Thanks




Re: NVDA and ribbon menues

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This is a huge can of worms. I personally feel that they are dire for blind users, but some people on here think that once you grasp the concept they are in fact easy.
Its a classic case of the way your brain visualises the concepts.
I did notice Jaws can be set to pretend they are normal menus, but my feeling here is that since you can use a simple add on to alter them ie ribbon remover, then I see no reason why Microsoft do not offer the themselves, but in a recent interview with Jenny at Microsoft she merely said, Embrace the ribbon, which I took to mean they are dogmatically against it.
Bah humbug I say.
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Subject: [nvda] NVDA and ribbon menues


Running latest NVDA and Win 10 1809.

The old addage of teaching a old dog new tricks fits this situation. Having great difficulty in using the ribbon while in file explorer. Are there any tutorials as how to use such ribbons?

Thanks




Re: Adding comments in Word

Sylvie Duchateau
 

Hello Rick, Ollie and all,

The shortcut to go to next and previous comment does not work here.

May be it is different from one language to the other.

I hope it worked for your friend Ollie

Best

Sylvie




Le 31/10/2018 à 12:59, Mallard a écrit :

Thanks Rick.


I'll pass this on too.

Ciao,

Ollie





Il 31/10/2018 11:09, Rick ha scritto:

Hello Sylvie and Ollie:

The method described by Sylvie will find more than comments if present in a document. For example, if track changes was used to record changes made to a document, the A key while in browse mode will also move to those as well as comments. Furthermore, when using the A key in browse mode, it will take you to the place in the document where the selected text associated with the comment is, but will not place you in the actual comment for editing, deleting or replying.

Word has built-in keystrokes for navigating comments in a document which will work with any screen reader. Alt+N will move to the next comment while Alt+V will move you to a previous comment. When using these commands, you are actually placed in the comment and can perform the keystrokes described by Silvie to respond to or delete a comment.

Rick

*From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Sylvie Duchateau
*Sent:* Tuesday, October 30, 2018 12:17 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Adding comments in Word

Hello again Ollie,
If you enable the browsing mode in word with Nvda+spacebar, you can jump to one comment/annotation by pressing a.
When you are on the comment you want to see, right click with the appropriate key or shift+f10 and use the down and up arrow keys. You will find a menu entry to modify, answer, delete or mark the comment as closed.
You can also display the list of comments in pressing nvda+F7, you can choose to display the list of annotations and browse through the different comments.
If you don't know the keystroke, when NVDA says "has a comment", you can have it read in pressing nvda+alt+C.
Enjoy!
Sylvie

    
    

Le 30/10/2018 à 16:55, Mallard a écrit :

    Hello again Sylvie,


    My friend says to thank you very much for your help, and has
    another related question:

    How can he return to a comment after exiting it with Esc?

    Thanks again, also on his behalf.

    Ciao,
    Ollie



    Il 30/10/2018 16:45, Mallard ha scritto:

        Hello syleie,


        It definitely helps, thanks! My friend will be happy to know
        that it's as simple s that!!!


        Ciao,

        Ollie





        Il 30/10/2018 15:51, Sylvie Duchateau ha scritto:


            Hello Ollie,

            When you finish writing the comment, just press escape to
            return to the text.

            Hope this helps.

            Sylvie





            Le 30/10/2018 à 12:10, Mallard a écrit :

                Hello all,


                A friend of mine is a teacher. His students do their
                homework in Word, and he needs to corect them.


                He'd like to insert comments to explain his
                corrections, and has found the keyboard shortcut to do
                so, but doesn't know how to return to the main text.


                Would  anyone know if there's a shortcut to exit the
                comment and return to the place in the text where he
                left off?


                Thanks in advance; I don't have Word installed, so I
                can't help him.


                Ciao,

                Ollie

















Re: find command

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I understand this is due to some page formatting issues that means that nvda thinks its on the right line, but is one out. I am not sure if its been fixed either.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@gmail.com>
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Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2018 7:56 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] find command


When you use insert control f, do you hear search dialog if you wait for speech after issuing the command? That is what you should hear when the NVDA search dialog comes up. I didn't see when I read your message the first time, that you have tried NVDA f so I gave that command in my first message. Also, I find at times, and I don't know if this has been corrected in later versions than I am using, that if ai do a search, sometimes the search lands on a line that doesn't contain what I am searching for. Repeating the search from where I am causes it to work properly.

Gene
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Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2018 2:30 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] find command


Hi




Is the insert key your modifier key or another like the caps lock or extended insert key? It would be that one you chose but you probably are using the right one. for example nvda key +ctrl + letter f key.







Gene nz


On 2/11/2018 7:41 AM, Ervin, Glenn wrote:

Hi,

I have never had luck on a web page with NVDA finding text.

I have tried control + F

Insert + F

And insert + control + F

And it never finds text that is on the web page.

Does anyone know what I’m doing wrong?



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Automatically converting EPUB to EPUB3

Akshaya Choudhary
 

Hello group!
An NGO in my locality provides visually impaired people with free newspapers in EPUB3 format. They use a software called Calibre to download the newspaper and convert it to EPUB, it then has to be converted to EPUB3. It is her they face difficulty, they have to do it manually and they don't have the adequate staff. Can this process be automated? Can EPUB files be converted to EPUB 3 automatically?

All suggestion and shared experiences are welcome.
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Re: Using Android Studio with NVDA, Java Access Bridge issue

Isaac Porat
 

Hello Shasa


I am also interested in cross platform mobile development (using NVDA) and have done my own investigation and work.

Perhaps you might like to contact me directly at:

isaac@porat.me.uk

and we can exchange notes.


Regards

Isaac

On 29/10/2018 09:04, Shasa wrote:

Hello NVDA family,

I've been doing research on mobile platform for a long time. I preferred the cross platform. I am very interested in web programming. Especially Frantend.
That's why I chose React Native, and I have enough knowledge of JavaScript. I thought I could move on.

The problem is that there is a communication gap between Android Studio and NVDA. Java Access Bridge board. In the locations of the DLL files, JAB is enabled from the Control Panel.
Log Wiever's main output is:
"" "
INFO - __main__ (14:06:41.262):
Starting NVDA
INFO - core.main (14:06:41.667):
Config dir: C:\Users\Destroyer\AppData\Roaming\nvda
INFO - config.ConfigManager._loadConfig (14:06:41.667):
Loading config: C:\Users\Destroyer\AppData\Roaming\nvda\nvda.ini
INFO - core.main (14:06:42.214):
NVDA version 2018.3.2
INFO - core.main (14:06:42.214):
Using Windows version 10.0.17134 workstation
INFO - core.main (14:06:42.214):
Using Python version 2.7.15 (v2.7.15:ca079a3ea3, Apr 30 2018, 16:22:17) [MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)]
INFO - core.main (14:06:42.214):
Using comtypes version 1.1.3
DEBUGWARNING - touchHandler.touchSupported (14:06:42.476):
No touch devices found
INFO - external:synthDrivers.espeak_custom.SynthDriver.__init__ (14:06:43.084):
Using eSpeak version 1.48.03  04.Mar.14
INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (14:06:43.453):
Loaded synthDriver espeak_custom
INFO - core.main (14:06:43.453):
Using wx version 4.0.3 msw (phoenix) wxWidgets 3.0.5
INFO - brailleInput.initialize (14:06:43.457):
Braille input initialized
INFO - braille.initialize (14:06:43.461):
Using liblouis version 3.6.0
INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (14:06:43.473):
Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells.
INFO - _UIAHandler.UIAHandler.MTAThreadFunc (14:06:43.953):
UIAutomation: IUIAutomation5
DEBUGWARNING - inputCore.InputManager.loadLocaleGestureMap (14:06:44.477):
No locale gesture map for language en
DEBUGWARNING - touchHandler.touchSupported (14:06:44.528):
No touch devices found
"" "

Before configuring JAB, NVDA said, "Java Access Bridge not found."

My system information is as follows:
Windows: 10, 1803;
OS build: 17134.345;
Bit: 64;
About NVDA:
Version: 2018.3.2,
I don't have a setting and plugin to affect JAB.

I made the settings in Oracle's doc:
https://docs.oracle.com/javase/accessbridge/2.0.2/setup.htm,
https://docs.oracle.com/javase/9/access/enable_and_test.htm

This is also Google's document: https: //developer.android.com/studio/intro/accessibility


There is something strange, when I set up the "JDK", it is set up in "JAB". But it says here I have to set up the JAB manually. After the installation of JDK I checked the dll files, all of which are settled in their correct paths. I don't need a dll files copy.
Oracle said that the current versions installed, there is an older version.

Where do you think I'm making a mistake?

If you have friends who are developing with Android Studio, it would be great if they could help me by connecting with NVDA Remote. This problem exceeds my technical knowledge.

And I'm looking forward to the advice of those who have experience writing applications to mobile platforms before. Your contributions will advance me very fast.

Good days, nice uses and nice codings.