Re: NVDA and ribbon menues
I'm not saying you shouldn't discuss these things,
but you make it sound as though a lot of people will have serious
problems. That is what I disagree with. and I said, when
properly taught. There is a lot of inferior teaching about ribbons.
And I suspect the reason the Microsoft representative said to embrace ribbons is
for the reason I said, that you lose functionality or features when you try to
force ribbons to be menus. But others will have to comment on
that.
As far as the JAWS attempt to force ribbons to be
menus, see this article. It discusses the inconveniences and problems
encountered when you use the JAWS system.
Gene
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Sent: Friday, November 02, 2018 3:36 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and ribbon menues
This is a huge can of worms. I personally feel that they are dire
for blind users, but some people on here think that once you grasp the
concept they are in fact easy. Its a classic case of the way your
brain visualises the concepts. I did notice Jaws can be set to pretend
they are normal menus, but my feeling here is that since you can use a
simple add on to alter them ie ribbon remover, then I see no reason
why Microsoft do not offer the themselves, but in a recent interview with
Jenny at Microsoft she merely said, Embrace the ribbon, which I took to
mean they are dogmatically against it. Bah humbug I
say. Brian bglists@...Sent via
blueyonder. Please address personal E-mail to:- briang1@..., putting
'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message -----
From: "Don H" < lmddh50@...> To: < nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Thursday,
November 01, 2018 6:46 PM Subject: [nvda] NVDA and ribbon
menues > Running latest NVDA and Win 10 1809. > > The
old addage of teaching a old dog new tricks fits this situation. > Having
great difficulty in using the ribbon while in file explorer. Are > there
any tutorials as how to use such ribbons? > >
Thanks > > > > >
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Yeah. I tried it this morning to do a bit of video editing, tried it from a few MKV files I ripped from DVD's and it seems to be just as accessible as the old. I can't find the git hub page though. It is open source, but from my experience, blind developers tend to do their own version of whatever. Still, I like the program because I can't find an accessible, modern, video editor anywhere and this is the best we have, for now.
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Re: Not able to open pdf file
Adobe reader shows not responding.
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Hello,
Can you explain what happens when you open the PDF file with NVDA?
You press enter on the file and nothing happens?
If you open it with Jaws, then you try to read it with NVDA, is
there a difference?
Best
Sylvie
Le 02/11/2018 à 14:47, farhan israk a écrit :
I use Windows 10 1803, jaws 18, nvda 2018.3.2 and
latest adobe reader. When I use nvda then I can't open pdf file.
But, when I use jaws then I can open pdf file. How to fix it?
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Re: NVDA and ribbon menues
You have a problem, as you said . Most
people learn ribbons without a lot of trouble. It may take them a little
time but if taught properly, they don't find them a major problem. You are
discouraging people from learning ribbons.
I am skeptical and suspicious of ribbon removing
programs. I suspect you lose functionality when you try to force one
interface to become another interface. I hope people comment on
that.
Gene
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Sent: Friday, November 02, 2018 3:36 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and ribbon menues
This is a huge can of worms. I personally feel that they are dire
for blind users, but some people on here think that once you grasp the
concept they are in fact easy. Its a classic case of the way your
brain visualises the concepts. I did notice Jaws can be set to pretend
they are normal menus, but my feeling here is that since you can use a
simple add on to alter them ie ribbon remover, then I see no reason
why Microsoft do not offer the themselves, but in a recent interview with
Jenny at Microsoft she merely said, Embrace the ribbon, which I took to
mean they are dogmatically against it. Bah humbug I
say. Brian bglists@...Sent via
blueyonder. Please address personal E-mail to:- briang1@..., putting
'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message -----
From: "Don H" < lmddh50@...> To: < nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Thursday,
November 01, 2018 6:46 PM Subject: [nvda] NVDA and ribbon
menues > Running latest NVDA and Win 10 1809. > > The
old addage of teaching a old dog new tricks fits this situation. > Having
great difficulty in using the ribbon while in file explorer. Are > there
any tutorials as how to use such ribbons? > >
Thanks > > > > >
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Re: Not able to open pdf file
Hello,
Can you explain what happens when you open the PDF file with NVDA?
You press enter on the file and nothing happens?
If you open it with Jaws, then you try to read it with NVDA, is
there a difference?
Best
Sylvie
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Le 02/11/2018 à 14:47, farhan israk a écrit :
I use Windows 10 1803, jaws 18, nvda 2018.3.2 and
latest adobe reader. When I use nvda then I can't open pdf file.
But, when I use jaws then I can open pdf file. How to fix it?
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Re: NVDA and ribbon menues

Sarah k Alawami
Agreed. I also hate the ribbon, but I had to learn it in my computer class in 2008. My teacher also didn't know what he was doing as he got that version of word the day before so we were both learning together. So learn it or get left behind is what I say. I'm getting gleft behind. Lol!
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On 2 Nov 2018, at 6:18, Brian Vogel wrote:
On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 04:36 AM, Brian's Mail list account wrote:
Embrace the ribbon,
It's been around for over a decade now. It is the Microsoft standard. The endless fight against the ribbon makes no sense; learning to work with the computing environment, as presented, does. --
Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763
The terrible state of public education has paid huge dividends in ignorance. Huge. We now have a country that can be told blatant lies — easily checkable, blatant lies — and I’m not talking about the covert workings of the CIA. When we have a terrorist attack, on September 11, 2001 with 19 men — 15 of them are Saudis — and five minutes later the whole country thinks they’re from Iraq — how can you have faith in the public? This is an easily checkable fact. The whole country is like the O.J. Simpson jurors.
~ Fran Lebowitz in Ruminator Magazine interview with Susannah McNeely (Aug/Sept 2005)
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Not able to open pdf file
I use Windows 10 1803, jaws 18, nvda 2018.3.2 and latest adobe reader. When I use nvda then I can't open pdf file. But, when I use jaws then I can open pdf file. How to fix it?
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Re: NVDA and ribbon menues
On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 04:36 AM, Brian's Mail list account wrote:
Embrace the ribbon,
It's been around for over a decade now. It is the Microsoft standard. The endless fight against the ribbon makes no sense; learning to work with the computing environment, as presented, does. --
Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763
The terrible state of public education has paid huge dividends in ignorance. Huge. We now have a country that can be told blatant lies — easily checkable, blatant lies — and I’m not talking about the covert workings of the CIA. When we have a terrorist attack, on September 11, 2001 with 19 men — 15 of them are Saudis — and five minutes later the whole country thinks they’re from Iraq — how can you have faith in the public? This is an easily checkable fact. The whole country is like the O.J. Simpson jurors.
~ Fran Lebowitz in Ruminator Magazine interview with Susannah McNeely (Aug/Sept 2005)
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Re: WordPress for dummies
I'll do the same, surely :) Em 02/11/2018 01:54, John J. Boyer escreveu:
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I'll subscribe as soon as I have the subscription information.
John
On Thu, Nov 01, 2018 at 04:12:18PM -0700, Jackie wrote:
I did. I'll receive notification as to whether it's approved within 24 hours. I'll let everyone know then, but I'll be away this weekend, so realistically things won't really get rolling until Monday. If approved, it's called WordPress for Newbies.
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Re: NVDA and ribbon menues
Please explain the ribbon remover please. Is this a Windows addon Chrome addon or what?
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On 11/2/2018 3:36 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote: This is a huge can of worms. I personally feel that they are dire for blind users, but some people on here think that once you grasp the concept they are in fact easy. Its a classic case of the way your brain visualises the concepts. I did notice Jaws can be set to pretend they are normal menus, but my feeling here is that since you can use a simple add on to alter them ie ribbon remover, then I see no reason why Microsoft do not offer the themselves, but in a recent interview with Jenny at Microsoft she merely said, Embrace the ribbon, which I took to mean they are dogmatically against it. Bah humbug I say. Brian
bglists@blueyonder.co.uk Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal E-mail to:- briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don H" <lmddh50@adams.net> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2018 6:46 PM Subject: [nvda] NVDA and ribbon menues
Running latest NVDA and Win 10 1809.
The old addage of teaching a old dog new tricks fits this situation. Having great difficulty in using the ribbon while in file explorer. Are there any tutorials as how to use such ribbons?
Thanks
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Re: Adding comments in Word
Thanks to you too. Sounds nice and easy...
Ciao,
Ollie
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Il 02/11/2018 13:35, Ann Byrne ha scritto: According to my trusty document of key tips,
add a comment: alt+r, then c. next comment: alt+r, then n. previous comment: alt+r, then v.
At 05:36 AM 11/2/2018, you wrote:
Thanks Rick,
Sounds very interesting. I'll pass it on to Federico.
I'll let ou know if he manages to do what he needs to do with comments.
Ciao,
Ollie
Il 02/11/2018 11:19, Rick ha scritto:
Hello Sylvie and Ollie:
I am not sure why moving to the next and previous comments shortcut keys do not work. I am running the latest desktop version of Word in Office 365. One way to find out the actual shortcut key is by navigating the ribbon. Press Alt+R. This will place you in the Review tab of the ribbon, where the commenting feature resides. Now press Ctrl+right arrow until you hear comments grouping. On my version of Word, I needed to press it 5 times. Once there, use the Tab key until you hear previous button. NVDA should also tell you the shortcut key. Pressing Tab one more time should get you to the Next button where again, NVDA should let you know the shortcut. On my version of Word, there are 4 buttons in the comments group of the Review tab. The first is to insert a comment, the second is to delete a comment, the third is to move to the previous comment and the fourth is to move to the next comment.
Navigating the ribbon is a great way to learn shortcut key combinations for future reference.
Rick
-----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mallard Sent: Friday, November 2, 2018 4:53 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Adding comments in Word
Hello Sylvie and Rick,
As a matter of fact it didn't work for him either. I don't know how he settled the issue; maybe he decided to use footnotes instead of comments, as he mentioned that to me over the phone.
Thanks to both of you.
Ciao,
Ollie
Il 02/11/2018 09:35, Sylvie Duchateau ha scritto:
Hello Rick, Ollie and all,
The shortcut to go to next and previous comment does not work here.
May be it is different from one language to the other.
I hope it worked for your friend Ollie
Best
Sylvie
Le 31/10/2018 à 12:59, Mallard a écrit :
Thanks Rick.
I'll pass this on too.
Ciao,
Ollie
Il 31/10/2018 11:09, Rick ha scritto:
Hello Sylvie and Ollie:
The method described by Sylvie will find more than comments if present in a document. For example, if track changes was used to record changes made to a document, the A key while in browse mode will also move to those as well as comments. Furthermore, when using the A key in browse mode, it will take you to the place in the document where the selected text associated with the comment is, but will not place you in the actual comment for editing, deleting or replying.
Word has built-in keystrokes for navigating comments in a document which will work with any screen reader. Alt+N will move to the next comment while Alt+V will move you to a previous comment. When using these commands, you are actually placed in the comment and can perform the keystrokes described by Silvie to respond to or delete a comment.
Rick
*From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Sylvie Duchateau *Sent:* Tuesday, October 30, 2018 12:17 PM *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io *Subject:* Re: [nvda] Adding comments in Word
Hello again Ollie, If you enable the browsing mode in word with Nvda+spacebar, you can jump to one comment/annotation by pressing a. When you are on the comment you want to see, right click with the appropriate key or shift+f10 and use the down and up arrow keys. You will find a menu entry to modify, answer, delete or mark the comment as closed. You can also display the list of comments in pressing nvda+F7, you can choose to display the list of annotations and browse through the different comments. If you don't know the keystroke, when NVDA says "has a comment", you can have it read in pressing nvda+alt+C. Enjoy! Sylvie
Le 30/10/2018 à 16:55, Mallard a écrit :
Hello again Sylvie,
My friend says to thank you very much for your help, and has another related question:
How can he return to a comment after exiting it with Esc?
Thanks again, also on his behalf.
Ciao, Ollie
Il 30/10/2018 16:45, Mallard ha scritto:
Hello syleie,
It definitely helps, thanks! My friend will be happy to know that it's as simple s that!!!
Ciao,
Ollie
Il 30/10/2018 15:51, Sylvie Duchateau ha scritto:
Hello Ollie,
When you finish writing the comment, just press escape to return to the text.
Hope this helps.
Sylvie
Le 30/10/2018 à 12:10, Mallard a écrit :
Hello all,
A friend of mine is a teacher. His students do their homework in Word, and he needs to corect them.
He'd like to insert comments to explain his corrections, and has found the keyboard shortcut to do so, but doesn't know how to return to the main text.
Would anyone know if there's a shortcut to exit the comment and return to the place in the text where he left off?
Thanks in advance; I don't have Word installed, so I can't help him.
Ciao,
Ollie
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Re: Adding comments in Word
According to my trusty document of key tips,
add a comment: alt+r, then c. next comment: alt+r, then n. previous comment: alt+r, then v.
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At 05:36 AM 11/2/2018, you wrote: Thanks Rick,
Sounds very interesting. I'll pass it on to Federico.
I'll let ou know if he manages to do what he needs to do with comments.
Ciao,
Ollie
Il 02/11/2018 11:19, Rick ha scritto:
Hello Sylvie and Ollie:
I am not sure why moving to the next and previous comments shortcut keys do not work. I am running the latest desktop version of Word in Office 365. One way to find out the actual shortcut key is by navigating the ribbon. Press Alt+R. This will place you in the Review tab of the ribbon, where the commenting feature resides. Now press Ctrl+right arrow until you hear comments grouping. On my version of Word, I needed to press it 5 times. Once there, use the Tab key until you hear previous button. NVDA should also tell you the shortcut key. Pressing Tab one more time should get you to the Next button where again, NVDA should let you know the shortcut. On my version of Word, there are 4 buttons in the comments group of the Review tab. The first is to insert a comment, the second is to delete a comment, the third is to move to the previous comment and the fourth is to move to the next comment.
Navigating the ribbon is a great way to learn shortcut key combinations for future reference.
Rick
-----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mallard Sent: Friday, November 2, 2018 4:53 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Adding comments in Word
Hello Sylvie and Rick,
As a matter of fact it didn't work for him either. I don't know how he settled the issue; maybe he decided to use footnotes instead of comments, as he mentioned that to me over the phone.
Thanks to both of you.
Ciao,
Ollie
Il 02/11/2018 09:35, Sylvie Duchateau ha scritto:
Hello Rick, Ollie and all,
The shortcut to go to next and previous comment does not work here.
May be it is different from one language to the other.
I hope it worked for your friend Ollie
Best
Sylvie
Le 31/10/2018 à 12:59, Mallard a écrit :
Thanks Rick.
I'll pass this on too.
Ciao,
Ollie
Il 31/10/2018 11:09, Rick ha scritto:
Hello Sylvie and Ollie:
The method described by Sylvie will find more than comments if present in a document. For example, if track changes was used to record changes made to a document, the A key while in browse mode will also move to those as well as comments. Furthermore, when using the A key in browse mode, it will take you to the place in the document where the selected text associated with the comment is, but will not place you in the actual comment for editing, deleting or replying.
Word has built-in keystrokes for navigating comments in a document which will work with any screen reader. Alt+N will move to the next comment while Alt+V will move you to a previous comment. When using these commands, you are actually placed in the comment and can perform the keystrokes described by Silvie to respond to or delete a comment.
Rick
*From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Sylvie Duchateau *Sent:* Tuesday, October 30, 2018 12:17 PM *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io *Subject:* Re: [nvda] Adding comments in Word
Hello again Ollie, If you enable the browsing mode in word with Nvda+spacebar, you can jump to one comment/annotation by pressing a. When you are on the comment you want to see, right click with the appropriate key or shift+f10 and use the down and up arrow keys. You will find a menu entry to modify, answer, delete or mark the comment as closed. You can also display the list of comments in pressing nvda+F7, you can choose to display the list of annotations and browse through the different comments. If you don't know the keystroke, when NVDA says "has a comment", you can have it read in pressing nvda+alt+C. Enjoy! Sylvie
Le 30/10/2018 à 16:55, Mallard a écrit :
Hello again Sylvie,
My friend says to thank you very much for your help, and has another related question:
How can he return to a comment after exiting it with Esc?
Thanks again, also on his behalf.
Ciao, Ollie
Il 30/10/2018 16:45, Mallard ha scritto:
Hello syleie,
It definitely helps, thanks! My friend will be happy to know that it's as simple s that!!!
Ciao,
Ollie
Il 30/10/2018 15:51, Sylvie Duchateau ha scritto:
Hello Ollie,
When you finish writing the comment, just press escape to return to the text.
Hope this helps.
Sylvie
Le 30/10/2018 à 12:10, Mallard a écrit :
Hello all,
A friend of mine is a teacher. His students do their homework in Word, and he needs to corect them.
He'd like to insert comments to explain his corrections, and has found the keyboard shortcut to do so, but doesn't know how to return to the main text.
Would anyone know if there's a shortcut to exit the comment and return to the place in the text where he left off?
Thanks in advance; I don't have Word installed, so I can't help him.
Ciao,
Ollie
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Re: WordPress for dummies
the same for me
kerryn
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----- Original Message ----- From: "John J. Boyer" <john.boyer@abilitiessoft.org> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Friday, November 02, 2018 12:54 AM Subject: Re: [nvda] WordPress for dummies I'll subscribe as soon as I have the subscription information.
John
On Thu, Nov 01, 2018 at 04:12:18PM -0700, Jackie wrote:
I did. I'll receive notification as to whether it's approved within 24 hours. I'll let everyone know then, but I'll be away this weekend, so realistically things won't really get rolling until Monday. If approved, it's called WordPress for Newbies.
On 11/1/18, John J. Boyer <john.boyer@abilitiessoft.org> wrote:
I don't find a WordPress list on Freelists.org I can create one. I've already created severall lists. What could this one be called? To start, how about blind-wordpress This name may be too long.
Thanks, John
On Thu, Nov 01, 2018 at 08:56:32AM -0500, John J. Boyer wrote:
There may already be a WordPress mailing list on www.freelists.org but I haven't checked yet.
John
On Thu, Nov 01, 2018 at 07:51:49AM -0300, marcio via Groups.Io wrote:
Jackie escreveu:
You've given me something to think about though regarding the possibility of starting a WordPress mailing list. Jackie, In case you start a mailing list on this, please, could you add me there? I'm much interested in learning more of working with Wordpress, I'm sure it'll be pretty good.
Thanks, Marcio
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NVDA and Add On Updates behind a http proxy
Hi,
my workstation is using a http proxy to access the internet and it seems like the automated updates of NVDA and Add Ons is having problems with this setup. I am not notified when updates are available because NVDA seems not be able to contact the regardings server(s) through the proxy.
Is this behaviour known and what can I do to let NVDA connect using the proxy server?
Cheers,
Schoepp
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Re: Adding comments in Word
Thanks Rick,
Sounds very interesting. I'll pass it on to Federico.
I'll let ou know if he manages to do what he needs to do with comments.
Ciao,
Ollie
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Il 02/11/2018 11:19, Rick ha scritto: Hello Sylvie and Ollie:
I am not sure why moving to the next and previous comments shortcut keys do not work. I am running the latest desktop version of Word in Office 365. One way to find out the actual shortcut key is by navigating the ribbon. Press Alt+R. This will place you in the Review tab of the ribbon, where the commenting feature resides. Now press Ctrl+right arrow until you hear comments grouping. On my version of Word, I needed to press it 5 times. Once there, use the Tab key until you hear previous button. NVDA should also tell you the shortcut key. Pressing Tab one more time should get you to the Next button where again, NVDA should let you know the shortcut. On my version of Word, there are 4 buttons in the comments group of the Review tab. The first is to insert a comment, the second is to delete a comment, the third is to move to the previous comment and the fourth is to move to the next comment.
Navigating the ribbon is a great way to learn shortcut key combinations for future reference.
Rick
-----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mallard Sent: Friday, November 2, 2018 4:53 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Adding comments in Word
Hello Sylvie and Rick,
As a matter of fact it didn't work for him either. I don't know how he settled the issue; maybe he decided to use footnotes instead of comments, as he mentioned that to me over the phone.
Thanks to both of you.
Ciao,
Ollie
Il 02/11/2018 09:35, Sylvie Duchateau ha scritto:
Hello Rick, Ollie and all,
The shortcut to go to next and previous comment does not work here.
May be it is different from one language to the other.
I hope it worked for your friend Ollie
Best
Sylvie
Le 31/10/2018 à 12:59, Mallard a écrit :
Thanks Rick.
I'll pass this on too.
Ciao,
Ollie
Il 31/10/2018 11:09, Rick ha scritto:
Hello Sylvie and Ollie:
The method described by Sylvie will find more than comments if present in a document. For example, if track changes was used to record changes made to a document, the A key while in browse mode will also move to those as well as comments. Furthermore, when using the A key in browse mode, it will take you to the place in the document where the selected text associated with the comment is, but will not place you in the actual comment for editing, deleting or replying.
Word has built-in keystrokes for navigating comments in a document which will work with any screen reader. Alt+N will move to the next comment while Alt+V will move you to a previous comment. When using these commands, you are actually placed in the comment and can perform the keystrokes described by Silvie to respond to or delete a comment.
Rick
*From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Sylvie Duchateau *Sent:* Tuesday, October 30, 2018 12:17 PM *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io *Subject:* Re: [nvda] Adding comments in Word
Hello again Ollie, If you enable the browsing mode in word with Nvda+spacebar, you can jump to one comment/annotation by pressing a. When you are on the comment you want to see, right click with the appropriate key or shift+f10 and use the down and up arrow keys. You will find a menu entry to modify, answer, delete or mark the comment as closed. You can also display the list of comments in pressing nvda+F7, you can choose to display the list of annotations and browse through the different comments. If you don't know the keystroke, when NVDA says "has a comment", you can have it read in pressing nvda+alt+C. Enjoy! Sylvie
Le 30/10/2018 à 16:55, Mallard a écrit :
Hello again Sylvie,
My friend says to thank you very much for your help, and has another related question:
How can he return to a comment after exiting it with Esc?
Thanks again, also on his behalf.
Ciao, Ollie
Il 30/10/2018 16:45, Mallard ha scritto:
Hello syleie,
It definitely helps, thanks! My friend will be happy to know that it's as simple s that!!!
Ciao,
Ollie
Il 30/10/2018 15:51, Sylvie Duchateau ha scritto:
Hello Ollie,
When you finish writing the comment, just press escape to return to the text.
Hope this helps.
Sylvie
Le 30/10/2018 à 12:10, Mallard a écrit :
Hello all,
A friend of mine is a teacher. His students do their homework in Word, and he needs to corect them.
He'd like to insert comments to explain his corrections, and has found the keyboard shortcut to do so, but doesn't know how to return to the main text.
Would anyone know if there's a shortcut to exit the comment and return to the place in the text where he left off?
Thanks in advance; I don't have Word installed, so I can't help him.
Ciao,
Ollie
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Re: Adding comments in Word
Hello Sylvie and Ollie:
I am not sure why moving to the next and previous comments shortcut keys do not work. I am running the latest desktop version of Word in Office 365. One way to find out the actual shortcut key is by navigating the ribbon. Press Alt+R. This will place you in the Review tab of the ribbon, where the commenting feature resides. Now press Ctrl+right arrow until you hear comments grouping. On my version of Word, I needed to press it 5 times. Once there, use the Tab key until you hear previous button. NVDA should also tell you the shortcut key. Pressing Tab one more time should get you to the Next button where again, NVDA should let you know the shortcut. On my version of Word, there are 4 buttons in the comments group of the Review tab. The first is to insert a comment, the second is to delete a comment, the third is to move to the previous comment and the fourth is to move to the next comment.
Navigating the ribbon is a great way to learn shortcut key combinations for future reference.
Rick
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-----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mallard Sent: Friday, November 2, 2018 4:53 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Adding comments in Word Hello Sylvie and Rick, As a matter of fact it didn't work for him either. I don't know how he settled the issue; maybe he decided to use footnotes instead of comments, as he mentioned that to me over the phone. Thanks to both of you. Ciao, Ollie Il 02/11/2018 09:35, Sylvie Duchateau ha scritto: Hello Rick, Ollie and all,
The shortcut to go to next and previous comment does not work here.
May be it is different from one language to the other.
I hope it worked for your friend Ollie
Best
Sylvie
Le 31/10/2018 à 12:59, Mallard a écrit :
Thanks Rick.
I'll pass this on too.
Ciao,
Ollie
Il 31/10/2018 11:09, Rick ha scritto:
Hello Sylvie and Ollie:
The method described by Sylvie will find more than comments if present in a document. For example, if track changes was used to record changes made to a document, the A key while in browse mode will also move to those as well as comments. Furthermore, when using the A key in browse mode, it will take you to the place in the document where the selected text associated with the comment is, but will not place you in the actual comment for editing, deleting or replying.
Word has built-in keystrokes for navigating comments in a document which will work with any screen reader. Alt+N will move to the next comment while Alt+V will move you to a previous comment. When using these commands, you are actually placed in the comment and can perform the keystrokes described by Silvie to respond to or delete a comment.
Rick
*From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Sylvie Duchateau *Sent:* Tuesday, October 30, 2018 12:17 PM *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io *Subject:* Re: [nvda] Adding comments in Word
Hello again Ollie, If you enable the browsing mode in word with Nvda+spacebar, you can jump to one comment/annotation by pressing a. When you are on the comment you want to see, right click with the appropriate key or shift+f10 and use the down and up arrow keys. You will find a menu entry to modify, answer, delete or mark the comment as closed. You can also display the list of comments in pressing nvda+F7, you can choose to display the list of annotations and browse through the different comments. If you don't know the keystroke, when NVDA says "has a comment", you can have it read in pressing nvda+alt+C. Enjoy! Sylvie
Le 30/10/2018 à 16:55, Mallard a écrit :
Hello again Sylvie,
My friend says to thank you very much for your help, and has another related question:
How can he return to a comment after exiting it with Esc?
Thanks again, also on his behalf.
Ciao, Ollie
Il 30/10/2018 16:45, Mallard ha scritto:
Hello syleie,
It definitely helps, thanks! My friend will be happy to know that it's as simple s that!!!
Ciao,
Ollie
Il 30/10/2018 15:51, Sylvie Duchateau ha scritto:
Hello Ollie,
When you finish writing the comment, just press escape to return to the text.
Hope this helps.
Sylvie
Le 30/10/2018 à 12:10, Mallard a écrit :
Hello all,
A friend of mine is a teacher. His students do their homework in Word, and he needs to corect them.
He'd like to insert comments to explain his corrections, and has found the keyboard shortcut to do so, but doesn't know how to return to the main text.
Would anyone know if there's a shortcut to exit the comment and return to the place in the text where he left off?
Thanks in advance; I don't have Word installed, so I can't help him.
Ciao,
Ollie
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Re: adding page numbers to word documents
Thanks Quentin, I'll try.
Ciao,
Ollie
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Il 01/11/2018 23:16, Quentin Christensen ha scritto: Hi Ollie,
Yes, as long as you can remember the details you used to log in and purchase the material, you can download it again from: https://www.nvaccess.org/my-account/downloads/
Kind regards
Quentin.
On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 7:36 PM Mallard <mallard@kimabe.eu <mailto:mallard@kimabe.eu>> wrote:
Hello Quentin,
By the way, I had bought that ebook when it was released, but for some reason I can't find it anywhere anymore.
Is it possible to download a new copy somehow, given that I've already paid for it? Or would you have any other suggestions to obtain a new copy?
Ciao,
Ollie
Il 01/11/2018 06:59, Quentin Christensen ha scritto: > Which version of Word are you using? > > All I can tell you is that it worked fine when I originally wrote that > section of the Microsoft Word with NVDA training material a couple of > years ago, and in fact I most recently went over that section of the > material just a week or so ago and it worked fine then too, both with > the most current Office 365 subscription at the time. > > A copy of your log here might be useful. > > Regards > > Quentin. > > On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 6:28 AM enes sarıbaş <enes.saribas@gmail.com <mailto:enes.saribas@gmail.com> > <mailto:enes.saribas@gmail.com <mailto:enes.saribas@gmail.com>>> wrote: > > hi all, > > So I want to add pages to word documents. However, when I go to the > insert ribbon, and click header, NVDA becomes unresponsive, and > the page > number button appears unavailable. Does anyone know how this can be > achieved? > > > > > > > -- > Quentin Christensen > Training and Support Manager > > Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: > http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/ > > www.nvaccess.org <http://www.nvaccess.org> <http://www.nvaccess.org/> > Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess > Twitter: @NVAccess >
-- Quentin Christensen Training and Support Manager
Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/
www.nvaccess.org <http://www.nvaccess.org/> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess Twitter: @NVAccess
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Re: Problem with NVDA and some Firefox addons which activate via context menu
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I'm almost certain that the new Firefox add ons work for mouse and nothing else. I suspect Firefox as older add ons that do still run on the new one still modify the old context menu or present their settings in a different standard menu option. Of course if you use Waterfox you can use all the old add ons and I'd suggest it works better in most other respects than the new version of Firefox does. Brian
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Mr. Wong Chi Wai, William" <cwwong.pro@gmail.com> To: "NVDA Groups.io mailing list email" <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Friday, November 02, 2018 1:55 AM Subject: [nvda] Problem with NVDA and some Firefox addons which activate via context menu Hi, For some Firefox addons, e.g. ContextSearch (still some more, but I have already deleted and forget there names lol) mentioned that these addons can be activated via context menu.
However after installing them, I pressed keyboard aplication key to bring up the context menu inside a web page, the menu has no change. Others tested it out that the context menu only works if they use mouse to select something and right click with mouse.
Does it related to how NVDA work? or it is something that Firefo need to fix? Thanks. William
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Re: Help Please, Downloading Spybot
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In firefox you can invoke the download list as well Its control j In this window you can also pull down a context menu and go directly to the download folder and other good stuff. Brian
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene" <gsasner@gmail.com> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Friday, November 02, 2018 12:00 AM Subject: Re: [nvda] Help Please, Downloading Spybot
Internet Explorer has a run command so you can run an installer from a web site. With firefox, save the installer, then go to it however you go to any file and run it.
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From: David Russell Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2018 5:28 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] Help Please, Downloading Spybot
Hello Group,
I have a Windows 7 computer, NVDA 2017, Firefox 52, and am interested to download and set up SpyBot on my computer, or even if possible, go to their website and do a scan if that exists anymore as an option.
If I download something, I press save. Then I press alt-r to run the setup file, but in a lot of cases, I cannot tell that I can proceed to install the program. I can go to downloads and find the wanted file, press enter, but it remains as it was before doing alt-r to run. What step or steps am I missing to advance to installation? This happened with Avast, Malware Bytes and something else a while back. Those previous have been deleted. Thanks for the help in advance.
-- David Russell david.sonofhashem@gmail.com
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Re: Adding comments in Word
Hello Sylvie and Rick,
As a matter of fact it didn't work for him either. I don't know how he settled the issue; maybe he decided to use footnotes instead of comments, as he mentioned that to me over the phone.
Thanks to both of you.
Ciao,
Ollie
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Il 02/11/2018 09:35, Sylvie Duchateau ha scritto: Hello Rick, Ollie and all,
The shortcut to go to next and previous comment does not work here.
May be it is different from one language to the other.
I hope it worked for your friend Ollie
Best
Sylvie
Le 31/10/2018 à 12:59, Mallard a écrit :
Thanks Rick.
I'll pass this on too.
Ciao,
Ollie
Il 31/10/2018 11:09, Rick ha scritto:
Hello Sylvie and Ollie:
The method described by Sylvie will find more than comments if present in a document. For example, if track changes was used to record changes made to a document, the A key while in browse mode will also move to those as well as comments. Furthermore, when using the A key in browse mode, it will take you to the place in the document where the selected text associated with the comment is, but will not place you in the actual comment for editing, deleting or replying.
Word has built-in keystrokes for navigating comments in a document which will work with any screen reader. Alt+N will move to the next comment while Alt+V will move you to a previous comment. When using these commands, you are actually placed in the comment and can perform the keystrokes described by Silvie to respond to or delete a comment.
Rick
*From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Sylvie Duchateau *Sent:* Tuesday, October 30, 2018 12:17 PM *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io *Subject:* Re: [nvda] Adding comments in Word
Hello again Ollie, If you enable the browsing mode in word with Nvda+spacebar, you can jump to one comment/annotation by pressing a. When you are on the comment you want to see, right click with the appropriate key or shift+f10 and use the down and up arrow keys. You will find a menu entry to modify, answer, delete or mark the comment as closed. You can also display the list of comments in pressing nvda+F7, you can choose to display the list of annotations and browse through the different comments. If you don't know the keystroke, when NVDA says "has a comment", you can have it read in pressing nvda+alt+C. Enjoy! Sylvie
Le 30/10/2018 à 16:55, Mallard a écrit :
Hello again Sylvie,
My friend says to thank you very much for your help, and has another related question:
How can he return to a comment after exiting it with Esc?
Thanks again, also on his behalf.
Ciao, Ollie
Il 30/10/2018 16:45, Mallard ha scritto:
Hello syleie,
It definitely helps, thanks! My friend will be happy to know that it's as simple s that!!!
Ciao,
Ollie
Il 30/10/2018 15:51, Sylvie Duchateau ha scritto:
Hello Ollie,
When you finish writing the comment, just press escape to return to the text.
Hope this helps.
Sylvie
Le 30/10/2018 à 12:10, Mallard a écrit :
Hello all,
A friend of mine is a teacher. His students do their homework in Word, and he needs to corect them.
He'd like to insert comments to explain his corrections, and has found the keyboard shortcut to do so, but doesn't know how to return to the main text.
Would anyone know if there's a shortcut to exit the comment and return to the place in the text where he left off?
Thanks in advance; I don't have Word installed, so I can't help him.
Ciao,
Ollie
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