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Re: Automatically converting EPUB to EPUB3

Mallard
 

Travis,


epub3 is a special type of file, where you have audio and text that can be synched, for instance, for dyslexic readers.


I guess that's the reason why one would want to convert epub's to epub3's.

Ciao,

Ollie

Il 02/11/2018 16:43, Travis Siegel ha scritto:

I've never heard of epub3. If the files are already epub, why do you need to convert them to anything else? Epub files are perfectly accessible all by themselves.

But, to answer your question, as far as I know, it is relatively easy to get calibre to convert to any format you like by default.  Just set the epub3 to your default format, then any file you copy into it's startup folder will automaticlaly be converted into epub3.  It's been quite a while since I've played around with calibre, so I don't know the exact steps for setting formats and automatic conversions and such, but it is possible, and folks do this sort of thing all the time.


On 11/2/2018 3:49 AM, Sociohack AC wrote:
Hello group!
An NGO in my locality provides visually impaired people with free newspapers in EPUB3 format. They use a software called Calibre to download the newspaper and convert it to EPUB, it then has to be converted to EPUB3. It is her they face difficulty, they have to do it manually and they don't have the adequate staff. Can this process be automated? Can EPUB files be converted to EPUB 3 automatically?

All suggestion and shared experiences are welcome.
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Re: Automatically converting EPUB to EPUB3

Mallard
 

Hello,


Yes, Calibre can be used from a command line in Windows as well.

Ciao,

Ollie

Il 02/11/2018 16:52, Antony Stone ha scritto:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EPUB3

I'm not familiar with Calibre on Windows, but on Mac OS/X and Linux, it can be
used as a command-line tool, so these conversions could easily be scripted.


Antony.

On Friday 02 November 2018 at 16:43:38, Travis Siegel wrote:

I've never heard of epub3. If the files are already epub, why do you
need to convert them to anything else? Epub files are perfectly
accessible all by themselves.

But, to answer your question, as far as I know, it is relatively easy to
get calibre to convert to any format you like by default. Just set the
epub3 to your default format, then any file you copy into it's startup
folder will automaticlaly be converted into epub3. It's been quite a
while since I've played around with calibre, so I don't know the exact
steps for setting formats and automatic conversions and such, but it is
possible, and folks do this sort of thing all the time.

On 11/2/2018 3:49 AM, Sociohack AC wrote:
Hello group!
An NGO in my locality provides visually impaired people with free
newspapers in EPUB3 format. They use a software called Calibre to
download the newspaper and convert it to EPUB, it then has to be
converted to EPUB3. It is her they face difficulty, they have to do it
manually and they don't have the adequate staff. Can this process be
automated? Can EPUB files be converted to EPUB 3 automatically?

All suggestion and shared experiences are welcome.


Re: NVDA and ribbon menues

 

On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 11:11 AM, Gene wrote:
I am skeptical and suspicious of ribbon removing programs.  I suspect you lose functionality when you try to force one interface to become another interface.  I hope people comment on that. 
I honestly can't say whether you lose functionality or not, simply because there are options in what one can get for an "interface changer" as well as the fact that "losing functionality" is definitely based on what a given individual generally uses.  There are scads of bells and whistles that have been added over the years that I, or any given person, just don't use and we don't care one whit whether they're available to us or not.

The above being said, it makes no sense to keep shoe-horning OS operating environments into looking like something that was an ancestor.  Eventually that breaks, but more importantly it quite literally hobbles one's ability to use the OS as the OS is.   Unless you are someone who will never, ever touch another computer, anywhere, that runs the same OS as yours does you will be left wandering in the proverbial forest when you actually have to deal with the user interface as designed and shipped.  There is no good reason to do that, period.

Nothing is so constant as change, and as far as Windows 10 goes it's far more like Windows 7 and earlier in the overall UI than Windows 8 or 8.1 were.  I have not yet had a blind or visually impaired client go through an extended "tearing my hair out" period when they transitioned to Windows 10.   You can do most tweaks within the UI provided to make it feel very familiar without actually putting the mask that is an interface changer on top of it.

The fact of the matter is, blind or not, when it comes to technology you either go with the flow or you eventually get drowned.  And those that most actively resist the flow tend to get dragged under first.
 
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Re: a new modified nv-speech player

Ann Byrne
 

So. I downloaded the Jason folder. What do I do next???

At 10:44 AM 11/2/2018, you wrote:
Hi,

A few years back nv-access made an improved ESpeak that was called nv-speech player. Since then a few people have greatly improved it! I just tried it a few minutes ago and it sounds great! It sounds almost exactly like eloquence, sort of, or maybe keynote gold, kind of. There is other stuff on this site which I will not discuss for legal reasons. And please just ignore that other *stuff*. Just focus on the free nv speech player! First, the website with the modded and improved speech player stuff. Direct link.

<http://grossgang.com/tts/speechPlayer%20in%20espeak/>http://grossgang.com/tts/speechPlayer%20in%20espeak/

Now here is my favorite version of the speech player addon modified by Jason bratcher. Perhaps, with this new speech player, someone can modify its intonations and make a keynote gold speech player voice? And give it more languages?

<http://grossgang.com/tts/speechPlayer%20in%20espeak/Jason%20Bratcher_speechPlayerInEspeak.nvda-addon>http://grossgang.com/tts/speechPlayer%20in%20espeak/Jason%20Bratcher_speechPlayerInEspeak.nvda-addon

more speech player voices.

<http://grossgang.com/tts/speechPlayer%20in%20espeak/voices.7z>http://grossgang.com/tts/speechPlayer%20in%20espeak/voices.7z


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Success, Spybot with NVDA Installed

David Russell
 

Hello Group,

I just installed Spybot successfully and all is well. By pressing
alt-r in the saved file from downloads, I was able to install. Thanks.

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Re: a new modified nv-speech player

Gene
 

I just tried the add-on.  I see no voice variatns, and it sounds nothing like Eloquence.  Also, the way many plosive consonants are spoken as a really annoying tinny sound.  I find this extremely annoying to listen to, such consonants as k or t are almost like clicks.  While the actual voices themselves have been improved in terms of sound, the accent and the plosive consonant problem causes the overall quality orf speech to be very poor.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2018 10:44 AM
Subject: [nvda] a new modified nv-speech player

Hi,

 

A few years back nv-access made an improved ESpeak that was called nv-speech player. Since then a few people have greatly improved it! I just tried it a few minutes ago and it sounds great! It sounds almost exactly like eloquence, sort of, or maybe keynote gold, kind of. There is other stuff on this site which I will not discuss for legal reasons. And please just ignore that other *stuff*. Just focus on the free nv speech player! First, the website with the modded and improved speech player stuff. Direct link.

 

http://grossgang.com/tts/speechPlayer%20in%20espeak/

 

Now here is my favorite version of the speech player addon modified by Jason bratcher. Perhaps, with this new speech player, someone can modify its intonations and make a keynote gold speech player voice? And give it more languages?

 

http://grossgang.com/tts/speechPlayer%20in%20espeak/Jason%20Bratcher_speechPlayerInEspeak.nvda-addon

 

more speech player voices.

 

http://grossgang.com/tts/speechPlayer%20in%20espeak/voices.7z

 

 

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Re: Automatically converting EPUB to EPUB3

Antony Stone
 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EPUB3

I'm not familiar with Calibre on Windows, but on Mac OS/X and Linux, it can be
used as a command-line tool, so these conversions could easily be scripted.


Antony.

On Friday 02 November 2018 at 16:43:38, Travis Siegel wrote:

I've never heard of epub3. If the files are already epub, why do you
need to convert them to anything else? Epub files are perfectly
accessible all by themselves.

But, to answer your question, as far as I know, it is relatively easy to
get calibre to convert to any format you like by default. Just set the
epub3 to your default format, then any file you copy into it's startup
folder will automaticlaly be converted into epub3. It's been quite a
while since I've played around with calibre, so I don't know the exact
steps for setting formats and automatic conversions and such, but it is
possible, and folks do this sort of thing all the time.

On 11/2/2018 3:49 AM, Sociohack AC wrote:
Hello group!
An NGO in my locality provides visually impaired people with free
newspapers in EPUB3 format. They use a software called Calibre to
download the newspaper and convert it to EPUB, it then has to be
converted to EPUB3. It is her they face difficulty, they have to do it
manually and they don't have the adequate staff. Can this process be
automated? Can EPUB files be converted to EPUB 3 automatically?

All suggestion and shared experiences are welcome.
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Re: a new modified nv-speech player

Gene
 

I've seen claims before about how improved versions of E-Speak sound like or almost like Eloquence.  I've never found it to be the case and I'm very skeptical now.  Your hedging makes me more suspicious.  Almost like Eloquence, sort of, is a very hedged statement.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2018 10:44 AM
Subject: [nvda] a new modified nv-speech player

Hi,

 

A few years back nv-access made an improved ESpeak that was called nv-speech player. Since then a few people have greatly improved it! I just tried it a few minutes ago and it sounds great! It sounds almost exactly like eloquence, sort of, or maybe keynote gold, kind of. There is other stuff on this site which I will not discuss for legal reasons. And please just ignore that other *stuff*. Just focus on the free nv speech player! First, the website with the modded and improved speech player stuff. Direct link.

 

http://grossgang.com/tts/speechPlayer%20in%20espeak/

 

Now here is my favorite version of the speech player addon modified by Jason bratcher. Perhaps, with this new speech player, someone can modify its intonations and make a keynote gold speech player voice? And give it more languages?

 

http://grossgang.com/tts/speechPlayer%20in%20espeak/Jason%20Bratcher_speechPlayerInEspeak.nvda-addon

 

more speech player voices.

 

http://grossgang.com/tts/speechPlayer%20in%20espeak/voices.7z

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


Re: Help Please NVDA With Spybot Cont.

Gene
 

There is a feature called secure desktop in Windows 10 that you will have to turn off.  I don't know more than that.  I don't use Windows 10.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2018 10:25 AM
To: nvda
Subject: [nvda] Help Please NVDA With Spybot Cont.

Hello again,

Brian and all, thanks for the input thus far. Let me try and walk you
through what happens.
- I go to the link you provided and press enter on the Spybot Free Edition.
- At the appropriate juncture, I press enter on download and enter on save.
- I then go to the desktop, go to my download folder, find the Spybot
file, press enter, and press enter on run to set up.
It is there, that NVDA says something to the effect, Desktop secured.
Nothing happens after waiting several moments.
Yes, I am sure files delete from the download folder when deleted.
I will get a number stating files remaining.
There must be a setting in FireFox preventing me from running a setup,
but do not have an idea what it would be. Any clues?
I assume the file downloads because it is in the download folder. Thanks again.

--
David Russell
david.sonofhashem@...



a new modified nv-speech player

Josh Kennedy
 

Hi,

 

A few years back nv-access made an improved ESpeak that was called nv-speech player. Since then a few people have greatly improved it! I just tried it a few minutes ago and it sounds great! It sounds almost exactly like eloquence, sort of, or maybe keynote gold, kind of. There is other stuff on this site which I will not discuss for legal reasons. And please just ignore that other *stuff*. Just focus on the free nv speech player! First, the website with the modded and improved speech player stuff. Direct link.

 

http://grossgang.com/tts/speechPlayer%20in%20espeak/

 

Now here is my favorite version of the speech player addon modified by Jason bratcher. Perhaps, with this new speech player, someone can modify its intonations and make a keynote gold speech player voice? And give it more languages?

 

http://grossgang.com/tts/speechPlayer%20in%20espeak/Jason%20Bratcher_speechPlayerInEspeak.nvda-addon

 

more speech player voices.

 

http://grossgang.com/tts/speechPlayer%20in%20espeak/voices.7z

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


Re: Automatically converting EPUB to EPUB3

Travis Siegel <tsiegel@...>
 

I've never heard of epub3. If the files are already epub, why do you need to convert them to anything else? Epub files are perfectly accessible all by themselves.

But, to answer your question, as far as I know, it is relatively easy to get calibre to convert to any format you like by default.  Just set the epub3 to your default format, then any file you copy into it's startup folder will automaticlaly be converted into epub3.  It's been quite a while since I've played around with calibre, so I don't know the exact steps for setting formats and automatic conversions and such, but it is possible, and folks do this sort of thing all the time.


On 11/2/2018 3:49 AM, Sociohack AC wrote:
Hello group!
An NGO in my locality provides visually impaired people with free newspapers in EPUB3 format. They use a software called Calibre to download the newspaper and convert it to EPUB, it then has to be converted to EPUB3. It is her they face difficulty, they have to do it manually and they don't have the adequate staff. Can this process be automated? Can EPUB files be converted to EPUB 3 automatically?

All suggestion and shared experiences are welcome.
--
Regards,
Sociohack


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Help Please NVDA With Spybot Cont.

David Russell
 

Hello again,

Brian and all, thanks for the input thus far. Let me try and walk you
through what happens.
- I go to the link you provided and press enter on the Spybot Free Edition.
- At the appropriate juncture, I press enter on download and enter on save.
- I then go to the desktop, go to my download folder, find the Spybot
file, press enter, and press enter on run to set up.
It is there, that NVDA says something to the effect, Desktop secured.
Nothing happens after waiting several moments.
Yes, I am sure files delete from the download folder when deleted.
I will get a number stating files remaining.
There must be a setting in FireFox preventing me from running a setup,
but do not have an idea what it would be. Any clues?
I assume the file downloads because it is in the download folder. Thanks again.

--
David Russell
david.sonofhashem@gmail.com


Re: NVDA and ribbon menues

Gene
 

I'm not saying you shouldn't discuss these things, but you make it sound as though a lot of people will have serious problems.  That is what I disagree with.  and I said, when properly taught.  There is a lot of inferior teaching about ribbons.  And I suspect the reason the Microsoft representative said to embrace ribbons is for the reason I said, that you lose functionality or features when you try to force ribbons to be menus.  But others will have to comment on that.
 
As far as the JAWS attempt to force ribbons to be menus, see this article.  It discusses the inconveniences and problems encountered when you use the JAWS system.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2018 3:36 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and ribbon menues

This is a huge can of worms. I personally feel that they are dire for blind
users, but some people on here think that once you grasp the concept they
are in fact easy.
 Its a classic case of the way your brain visualises the concepts.
 I did notice Jaws can be set to pretend they are normal menus, but my
feeling here is that since you can use a simple add on to alter them  ie
ribbon remover, then I see no reason why Microsoft do not offer the
themselves, but in a recent interview with Jenny at Microsoft she merely
said, Embrace the ribbon, which I took to mean  they are dogmatically
against it.
 Bah humbug I say.
 Brian

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From: "Don H" <lmddh50@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2018 6:46 PM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA and ribbon menues


> Running latest NVDA and Win 10 1809.
>
> The old addage of teaching a old dog new tricks fits this situation.
> Having great difficulty in using the ribbon while in file explorer. Are
> there any tutorials as how to use such ribbons?
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
>
>




Re: Virtual dub 2.

 

Yeah. I tried it this morning to do a bit of video editing, tried it from a few MKV files I ripped from DVD's and it seems to be just as accessible as the old. I can't find the git hub page though. It is open source, but from my experience, blind developers tend to do their own version of whatever. Still, I like the program because I can't find an accessible, modern, video editor anywhere and this is the best we have, for now.


Re: Not able to open pdf file

farhan israk
 

Adobe reader shows not responding.


On Fri, 2 Nov 2018, 7:51 pm Sylvie Duchateau <sduchateau@... wrote:





Hello,
Can you explain what happens when you open the PDF file with NVDA?
You press enter on the file and nothing happens?
If you open it with Jaws, then you try to read it with NVDA, is there a difference?
Best
Sylvie
Le 02/11/2018 à 14:47, farhan israk a écrit :

I use Windows 10 1803, jaws 18, nvda 2018.3.2 and latest adobe reader. When I use nvda then I can't open pdf file. But, when I use jaws then I can open pdf file. How to fix it?



Re: NVDA and ribbon menues

Gene
 

You have a problem, as you said .  Most people learn ribbons without a lot of trouble.  It may take them a little time but if taught properly, they don't find them a major problem.  You are discouraging people from learning ribbons. 
 
I am skeptical and suspicious of ribbon removing programs.  I suspect you lose functionality when you try to force one interface to become another interface.  I hope people comment on that. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2018 3:36 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and ribbon menues

This is a huge can of worms. I personally feel that they are dire for blind
users, but some people on here think that once you grasp the concept they
are in fact easy.
 Its a classic case of the way your brain visualises the concepts.
 I did notice Jaws can be set to pretend they are normal menus, but my
feeling here is that since you can use a simple add on to alter them  ie
ribbon remover, then I see no reason why Microsoft do not offer the
themselves, but in a recent interview with Jenny at Microsoft she merely
said, Embrace the ribbon, which I took to mean  they are dogmatically
against it.
 Bah humbug I say.
 Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Don H" <lmddh50@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2018 6:46 PM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA and ribbon menues


> Running latest NVDA and Win 10 1809.
>
> The old addage of teaching a old dog new tricks fits this situation.
> Having great difficulty in using the ribbon while in file explorer. Are
> there any tutorials as how to use such ribbons?
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
>
>




Re: Not able to open pdf file

Sylvie Duchateau
 





Hello,
Can you explain what happens when you open the PDF file with NVDA?
You press enter on the file and nothing happens?
If you open it with Jaws, then you try to read it with NVDA, is there a difference?
Best
Sylvie

Le 02/11/2018 à 14:47, farhan israk a écrit :

I use Windows 10 1803, jaws 18, nvda 2018.3.2 and latest adobe reader. When I use nvda then I can't open pdf file. But, when I use jaws then I can open pdf file. How to fix it?



Re: NVDA and ribbon menues

Sarah k Alawami
 

Agreed. I also hate the ribbon, but I had to learn it in my computer class in 2008. My teacher also didn't know what he was doing as he got that version of word the day before so we were both learning together. So learn it or get left behind is what I say. I'm getting gleft behind. Lol!

On 2 Nov 2018, at 6:18, Brian Vogel wrote:

On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 04:36 AM, Brian's Mail list account wrote:
Embrace the ribbon,
It's been around for over a decade now.  It is the Microsoft standard.  The endless fight against the ribbon makes no sense; learning to work with the computing environment, as presented, does.
 
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Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

The terrible state of public education has paid huge dividends in ignorance.  Huge.  We now have a country that can be told blatant lies — easily checkable, blatant lies — and I’m not talking about the covert workings of the CIA. When we have a terrorist attack, on September 11, 2001 with 19 men — 15 of them are Saudis — and five minutes later the whole country thinks they’re from Iraq — how can you have faith in the public? This is an easily checkable fact. The whole country is like the O.J. Simpson jurors.

      ~ Fran Lebowitz in Ruminator Magazine interview with Susannah McNeely (Aug/Sept 2005)

 

 


Not able to open pdf file

farhan israk
 

I use Windows 10 1803, jaws 18, nvda 2018.3.2 and latest adobe reader. When I use nvda then I can't open pdf file. But, when I use jaws then I can open pdf file. How to fix it?


Re: NVDA and ribbon menues

 

On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 04:36 AM, Brian's Mail list account wrote:
Embrace the ribbon,
It's been around for over a decade now.  It is the Microsoft standard.  The endless fight against the ribbon makes no sense; learning to work with the computing environment, as presented, does.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

The terrible state of public education has paid huge dividends in ignorance.  Huge.  We now have a country that can be told blatant lies — easily checkable, blatant lies — and I’m not talking about the covert workings of the CIA. When we have a terrorist attack, on September 11, 2001 with 19 men — 15 of them are Saudis — and five minutes later the whole country thinks they’re from Iraq — how can you have faith in the public? This is an easily checkable fact. The whole country is like the O.J. Simpson jurors.

      ~ Fran Lebowitz in Ruminator Magazine interview with Susannah McNeely (Aug/Sept 2005)