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link for synthe discussed yesterday

Brian Moore
 

Hi all. Though I kept that message but now can't find it. can someone send privately?

thanks.

Brian.

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Re: first read all - then react - nvda list has become a chatter group

Gene
 

These are my thoughts as moderator.  The owner is the ultimate authority and he may wish to comment.
 
The list has been run in this way, regarding traffic, long before I became moderator.  That doesn't mean it has to be but it may be the best of various imperfect possibilities. 
 
If you moderate too tightly, you may harm a sense of community that, one hopes, develops on good lists.  And at times, it has been my observation, that even if a thread drifts, useful information may be sent and you never know when that might happen as a result of the drift so I tend not to regulate it much.  If something is really offtopic, I may do so but I find that in such cases, the thread often stops by itself very quickly.
 
Also, even when a moderator makes suggestions such as to change subject lines if a thread drifts too far, these generally aren't followed in my experience with this and other lists. 
 
As a practical matter, I'll discuss ways of managing mail so people may deal with what they don't want to read much more efficiently than they may be doing. 
 
Reading the first message or two in a thread to see if you are interested is one way.  Of course, you can do this on a day when the list is particularly busy or on days when there are long threads you may or may not be interested in.  You can read mail by conversation, which involves setting your e-mail program to show all messages with a certain subject line in a group.  You can skip all in a group and you don't have to down arrow through them all to do so.  The conversations are organized in a tree view so you can open one conversation, read what you want, then close it and delete the entire conversation at one time. 
 
I haven't done the following so I don't know what happens if you follow the link but each message has a mute thread link in the footers at the bottom of the message.  You can follow this link and the thread will either be muted, you won't receive any more messages in it, or you will be taken to a page where you do something to mute it.  As I said, I don't know which. 
 
These suggestions, or some of them, may help those who want to manage messages.
 
Gene, Moderator

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2018 7:53 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] first read all - then react - nvda list has become a chatter group

In that case perhaps a moderator could put up a sticky topic reminding people not to go off-topic?
> On 3 Nov 2018, at 12:39, Christian Schoepplein <chris@...> wrote:
>
> Hej,
>
>> On Sat, 03 Nov 2018 04:26:26 -0700, Supanut Leepaisomboon wrote:
>> People who feel annoyed being bombarded by emails from this group
>> can always set there preferences two no email.
>
> Ofcourse this is a way to deal with the problem, but its the wrong way IMHO. In this list there are so many off topic messages about things that are not related to NVDA and this has to be minimized to get back to the real topic of this list.
>
> Cheers,
>
>  Schoepp
>
>
>



Single letter navigation on web searches

Greg Rhodes
 

I recently had computer problems and had to reload windows 10 (1803), NVDA, MS Office, etc. I’m using Google as my home page in MS Edge. When I did Google searches prior to computer reload, single key header navigation was very snappy. Post-reload, it is very slow. I used to be able to type “h” and quickly jump from one search to another. Now, NVDA continues to read the first heading for a long time, even though I have hit the “h” again to move to the next heading. Is there something I missed in my NVDA settings that would make this move from heading to heading more quickly? Thanks.

 

Greg

 

 


Re: first read all - then react - nvda list has become a chatter group

Sarah k Alawami
 

That doesn't. work. Asa mod for about 15 to 17 yers I can say that people ignore it, people like myself, and yes I have broken my own rules every once in a while..

Take care and happy Saturday.

On 3 Nov 2018, at 5:53, Supanut Leepaisomboon wrote:

In that case perhaps a moderator could put up a sticky topic reminding people not to go off-topic? > On 3 Nov 2018, at 12:39, Christian Schoepplein chris@... > wrote: > > Hej, > >> On Sat, 03 Nov 2018 04:26:26 -0700, Supanut Leepaisomboon wrote: >> People who feel annoyed being bombarded by emails from this group >> can always set there preferences two no email. > > Ofcourse this is a way to deal with the problem, but its the wrong > way IMHO. In this list there are so many off topic messages about > things that are not related to NVDA and this has to be minimized to > get back to the real topic of this list. > > Cheers, > > Schoepp > > >


Re: first read all - then react - nvda list has become a chatter group

Sarah k Alawami
 

I do the same thing, or I will just read with out reading, that is, open all the message then close them and skim, or mark everything as read allowing me to go through over a thousand messages that come in through out the week day. Weekends are quieter. There is also the delete key. If I'm not interested I remove the conversation or mute it with mail mate on mac os or mute it on groups.io. I've already done tis to several threads that don't interest me, except in lists I mod I have to read everything there.

Take care

On 3 Nov 2018, at 4:22, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:

Although I sympathise, there are times when certain people lay down a law which is not in fact true, and each person will have their own take on it, IE there is no right way to decide on whether to install a ribbon remover or learn them. One of the functions here is to explain choices and signpost people to other resources Second. If we all had email that flowed to use in a linear time line it would be wonderful, but sadly that is not the case. IE for example I may read a thread here, and see a few replies and add mine, only say several hours later to find old emails have come in from prior to mine and made me seem to be repeating things. OK so you hold off, but then you forget to look back.

I'm not saying you are in any way wrong, merely suggesting that what may look to some as a chat list, is in fact not being treated that way in the posters mind at a given time. It is thus very hard to stop it without getting draconian on moderation and risking throwing the baby out with the bathwater. I've seen it on lists I have left due to that my rule is the only rule enforcement lots of times.

What I suggest is to do what I do. I use a particular email for lists. I use pop 3 clients and sort the mails automatically into folders as they come in. I also have a junk folder for certain subject lines and in some instances certain posters messages. You do not have to read all the responses if you set up the viewing order correctly.

Text, thankfully takes up little room.

Brian

bglists@... Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal E-mail to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Davy Cuppens" davycuppens@... To: nvda@groups.io Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2018 10:51 AM Subject: [nvda] first read all - then react - nvda list has become a chatter group

Hi folks

I’ve been thinking a long time to post it or not but after the useless discussion over the usage of ribbons and the heavy mail traffic over and over again ...

Please people, this group is to ask questions and if you have one, feel free to start a topic. But ... before you do so, don’t be lazy and have you checked google before, have you checked the nvda or windows manuals or learning stuff before? OK still no answer for you, ask questions. By doing that there will be less list traffic. Second, we all get tons of mails and are not always behind our desktops or laptops. If you want to help people and react, please read your mails until the latest updates and then react on it once or twice. I don’t want to blame or name people here, but we all know who ... there are chaps here that react and react and react on every single mail. I notice that the purpose of this group helping people has gone by. We are all telling eachother in endless threads how it was how it would and how it should be. Please, please, stay with facts only. If we go on like this, many intelligent people will leave this fine group so that knowledge will be gone more and more. Regards Davy


Re: how to navigate notifications in windows 10

Michael Munn
 

What kind of machine is this? Is that a Braille display?

"If a person must be blind, it is better to be blind in Iowa than anywhere else in the nation or in the world."
Harold Russell, 
Des Moines 
1968
Michael Munn
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On Sat, Nov 3, 2018 at 10:45 AM Ali Abdalkadir <abdalkadir41@...> wrote:

Hello listers,

I was just wondering how I could navigate the notifications in windows 10 when connecting a device to the machine via USB cable!

 

Best regards,

Ali.


how to navigate notifications in windows 10

Ali Abdalkadir
 

Hello listers,

I was just wondering how I could navigate the notifications in windows 10 when connecting a device to the machine via USB cable!

 

Best regards,

Ali.


Re: first read all - then react - nvda list has become a chatter group

Ron Canazzi
 

Also, if you wish to avoid a thread of dozens or even hundreds of messages, you can filter messages into separate folders for each group and you can group messages by conversation and mass delete the entire threads at once.  I am subscribed to 17 moderated mailing list and receive thousands of messages a day.  I only take 1 or 2 hours over a few sessions daily to go through them.  I do this by eliminating dozens of e-mails at one time that I am not interested in. This filtering and group message by conversation is different for each mail program but it is usually an easy enough thing to do and undo.



On 11/3/2018 7:26 AM, Supanut Leepaisomboon wrote:
 People who feel annoyed being bombarded by emails from this group can always set there preferences two no email. 

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Re: first read all - then react - nvda list has become a chatter group

 

Not that I don't agree with the central thrust of a great many of your points, Davy, but it is also incumbent on those using Groups.io to also learn and understand the features available from Groups.io to actually control the e-mail stream they receive, up to and including using the Mute this Topic feature.

There are periods of time on any list where volumes of messages go up, sometimes way up, and the topics are not of interest.  You, as an individual user, have immense power and control over what you do and do not receive from any group on Groups.io.  You, for any you, have the ability to very carefully vet the topics you want to continue receiving from Groups.io and can do so with ease.

In addition to a number of the great ideas you suggest, everyone should read, understand, and employ the features they need to control their e-mail stream contained in, Controlling the Messages You Receive via E-Mail from Groups.io

 

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Re: first read all - then react - nvda list has become a chatter group

Michael Munn
 

I kind of agree about the sticky note method.
Some time a person forgot what's the list is for and they post stuff on the list that's off topic.
Thanks for the email.
Best Regards 
Michael Munn 


modified nv speech player

Josh Kennedy
 

Hi,

 

When you are on the website for the modified speech player voices, be sure to get the addon which specifically says its by Jason bratcher, in order to get many more speech player voices. Use the addon by Jason bratcher.

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


Re: first read all - then react - nvda list has become a chatter group

 

In that case perhaps a moderator could put up a sticky topic reminding people not to go off-topic?

On 3 Nov 2018, at 12:39, Christian Schoepplein <chris@schoeppi.net> wrote:

Hej,

On Sat, 03 Nov 2018 04:26:26 -0700, Supanut Leepaisomboon wrote:
People who feel annoyed being bombarded by emails from this group
can always set there preferences two no email.
Ofcourse this is a way to deal with the problem, but its the wrong way IMHO. In this list there are so many off topic messages about things that are not related to NVDA and this has to be minimized to get back to the real topic of this list.

Cheers,

Schoepp



Re: first read all - then react - nvda list has become a chatter group

Christian Schoepplein
 

Hej,

On Sat, 03 Nov 2018 04:26:26 -0700, Supanut Leepaisomboon wrote:
People who feel annoyed being bombarded by emails from this group
can always set there preferences two no email.
Ofcourse this is a way to deal with the problem, but its the wrong way IMHO. In this list there are so many off topic messages about things that are not related to NVDA and this has to be minimized to get back to the real topic of this list.

Cheers,

Schoepp


Re: first read all - then react - nvda list has become a chatter group

 

 People who feel annoyed being bombarded by emails from this group can always set there preferences two no email. 


Re: first read all - then react - nvda list has become a chatter group

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

Although I sympathise, there are times when certain people lay down a law which is not in fact true, and each person will have their own take on it, IE there is no right way to decide on whether to install a ribbon remover or learn them. One of the functions here is to explain choices and signpost people to other resources
Second. If we all had email that flowed to use in a linear time line it would be wonderful, but sadly that is not the case. IE for example I may read a thread here, and see a few replies and add mine, only say several hours later to find old emails have come in from prior to mine and made me seem to be repeating things. OK so you hold off, but then you forget to look back.

I'm not saying you are in any way wrong, merely suggesting that what may look to some as a chat list, is in fact not being treated that way in the posters mind at a given time. It is thus very hard to stop it without getting draconian on moderation and risking throwing the baby out with the bathwater. I've seen it on lists I have left due to that my rule is the only rule enforcement lots of times.

What I suggest is to do what I do. I use a particular email for lists. I use pop 3 clients and sort the mails automatically into folders as they come in.
I also have a junk folder for certain subject lines and in some instances certain posters messages. You do not have to read all the responses if you set up the viewing order correctly.

Text, thankfully takes up little room.


Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Davy Cuppens" <davycuppens@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2018 10:51 AM
Subject: [nvda] first read all - then react - nvda list has become a chatter group


Hi folks

I’ve been thinking a long time to post it or not but after the useless discussion over the usage of ribbons and the heavy mail traffic over and over again ...

Please people, this group is to ask questions and if you have one, feel free to start a topic. But ... before you do so, don’t be lazy and have you checked google before, have you checked the nvda or windows manuals or learning stuff before? OK still no answer for you, ask questions. By doing that there will be less list traffic.
Second, we all get tons of mails and are not always behind our desktops or laptops. If you want to help people and react, please read your mails until the latest updates and then react on it once or twice.
I don’t want to blame or name people here, but we all know who ... there are chaps here that react and react and react on every single mail.
I notice that the purpose of this group helping people has gone by.
We are all telling eachother in endless threads how it was how it would and how it should be. Please, please, stay with facts only.
If we go on like this, many intelligent people will leave this fine group so that knowledge will be gone more and more.
Regards
Davy


Re: Not able to open pdf file

farhan israk
 

No, it can't open small pdf file. I use stable standard nvda. I will send log as soon as possible.


On Sat, 3 Nov 2018, 5:01 am Mallard <mallard@... wrote:
Oh, don't tell me! It's driving me crazy! But it's the only way to
download ebooks from our public libraries here. I wish they made a
better job of tehse epub's, forgetting about Adobe DRM, but I'm a fraid
we'll have to live with it for many years to come.

Ciao,

Ollie





Il 02/11/2018 21:36, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io ha scritto:
> Oh that piece of software has never behaved for me at any time it
> tends to lock, fall out of itself or just be very slow.
> Brian
>
> bglists@...
> Sent via blueyonder.
> Please address personal E-mail to:-
> briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
> in the display name field.
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mallard" <mallard@...>
> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> Sent: Friday, November 02, 2018 6:44 PM
> Subject: Re: [nvda] Not able to open pdf file
>
>
> No, not my problem. I use Qread, edge or even Chrome for pdf files. My
> problem is with Adobe Digital Editions, which doesn't seem to be able to
> open acsm files to download teh actual ebooks with NVDA lately.
>
>
> Ciao,
>
> Ollie
>
>
>
>
>
> Il 02/11/2018 18:27, Kerryn Gunness via Groups.Io ha scritto:
>> you all can use acrobat reader DC
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mallard" <mallard@...>
>> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>> Sent: Friday, November 02, 2018 1:14 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nvda] Not able to open pdf file
>>
>>
>> Adobe seems to have all sorts of issues these days. I have the same
>> problems with Adobe Digital Editions...
>>
>> Ciao,
>>
>> Ollie
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Il 02/11/2018 16:13, farhan israk ha scritto:
>>>
>>> Adobe reader shows not responding.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, 2 Nov 2018, 7:51 pm Sylvie Duchateau
>>> <sduchateau@... <mailto:sduchateau@...> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>> Can you explain what happens when you open the PDF file with NVDA?
>>> You press enter on the file and nothing happens?
>>> If you open it with Jaws, then you try to read it with NVDA, is
>>> there a difference?
>>> Best
>>> Sylvie
>>> Le 02/11/2018 à 14:47, farhan israk a écrit :
>>>>
>>>> I use Windows 10 1803, jaws 18, nvda 2018.3.2 and latest adobe
>>>> reader. When I use nvda then I can't open pdf file. But, when I
>>>> use jaws then I can open pdf file. How to fix it?
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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>
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>





first read all - then react - nvda list has become a chatter group

Davy Cuppens
 

Hi folks
 
I’ve been thinking a long time to post it or not but after the useless discussion over the usage of ribbons and the heavy mail traffic over and over again ...
 
Please people, this group is to ask questions and if you have one, feel free to start a topic. But ... before you do so, don’t be lazy and have you checked google before, have you checked the nvda or windows manuals or learning stuff before? OK still no answer for you, ask questions. By doing that there will be less list traffic.
Second, we all get tons of mails and are not always behind our desktops or laptops. If you want to help people and react, please read your mails until the latest updates and then react on it once or twice.
I don’t want to blame or name people here, but we all know who ... there are chaps here that react and react and react on every single mail.
I notice that the purpose of this group helping people has gone by.
We are all telling eachother in endless threads how it was how it would and how it should be. Please, please, stay with facts only.
If we go on like this, many intelligent people will leave this fine group so that knowledge will be gone more and more.
Regards
Davy


Re: [EXTERNAL] - Re: [nvda] NVDA and ribbon menues

Robert Doc Wright godfearer
 


i just go through them to find what I need. I work out a direction and path. for example,in file explorer  if I want to sort by date I do the following:
 
1. alt V
2. down arrow
3 right arrow to sort and press enter
4. up or down arrow to the item I need and enter
 

----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Friday, November 2, 2018 5:16 PM
Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] - Re: [nvda] NVDA and ribbon menues

How do you work with ribbons?  Do you use the short cut sequences in both ribbons and menus? 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2018 3:29 PM
Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] - Re: [nvda] NVDA and ribbon menues

I have found that I can do alright with the ribbons, but I find the speed of working with old style menus much better. 

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, November 2, 2018 4:25 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [EXTERNAL] - Re: [nvda] NVDA and ribbon menues

Not noticed it myself. But it is my view and yours is yours. I merely point at other pieces of software not by Microsoft.
 Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2018 3:10 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and ribbon menues


You have a problem, as you said .  Most people learn ribbons without a lot of trouble.  It may take them a little time but if taught properly, they don't find them a major problem.  You are discouraging people from learning ribbons.

I am skeptical and suspicious of ribbon removing programs.  I suspect you lose functionality when you try to force one interface to become another interface.  I hope people comment on that.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2018 3:36 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and ribbon menues


This is a huge can of worms. I personally feel that they are dire for blind users, but some people on here think that once you grasp the concept they are in fact easy.
 Its a classic case of the way your brain visualises the concepts.
 I did notice Jaws can be set to pretend they are normal menus, but my feeling here is that since you can use a simple add on to alter them  ie ribbon remover, then I see no reason why Microsoft do not offer the themselves, but in a recent interview with Jenny at Microsoft she merely said, Embrace the ribbon, which I took to mean  they are dogmatically against it.
 Bah humbug I say.
 Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Don H" <lmddh50@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2018 6:46 PM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA and ribbon menues


> Running latest NVDA and Win 10 1809.
>
> The old addage of teaching a old dog new tricks fits this situation.
> Having great difficulty in using the ribbon while in file explorer.
> Are there any tutorials as how to use such ribbons?
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
>
>










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Re: a new modified nv-speech player

George McCoy <slr1bpz@...>
 

I think there are 7 voices and 68 variants, Gene. I'm running windows 10. That shouldn't make any difference but one never knows.


George


On 11/2/2018 10:11 PM, Gene wrote:
I'm not sure that my last comment in this thread is a question.  I installed the add-on but I only have four voices and no varients.  Does that mean I have to install other voices?  I'm going to look at the page again but I don't recall any discussion of that on the page.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2018 7:34 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] a new modified nv-speech player

Maybe the add-on by itself doesn't have a lot of voices that are available if you run something else along with it.  But as I recall, nothing is explained on the page.  I have almost no choices in voices and I'm just running the add-on.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2018 7:12 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] a new modified nv-speech player

Hi.


I grabbed this, and my favorite configuration is the plain Klatt voice, with the pitch set to about 75%. I'm having a reasonably easy time understanding that configuration, with language set to EN-US.




Cheers:
Aaron Spears, A.K.A. valiant8086. General Partner - Valiant Galaxy Associates "We make Very Good Audiogames for the blind community - http://valiantGalaxy.com"

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On 11/2/2018 11:44 AM, Josh Kennedy wrote:

Hi,

 

A few years back nv-access made an improved ESpeak that was called nv-speech player. Since then a few people have greatly improved it! I just tried it a few minutes ago and it sounds great! It sounds almost exactly like eloquence, sort of, or maybe keynote gold, kind of. There is other stuff on this site which I will not discuss for legal reasons. And please just ignore that other *stuff*. Just focus on the free nv speech player! First, the website with the modded and improved speech player stuff. Direct link.

 

http://grossgang.com/tts/speechPlayer%20in%20espeak/

 

Now here is my favorite version of the speech player addon modified by Jason bratcher. Perhaps, with this new speech player, someone can modify its intonations and make a keynote gold speech player voice? And give it more languages?

 

http://grossgang.com/tts/speechPlayer%20in%20espeak/Jason%20Bratcher_speechPlayerInEspeak.nvda-addon

 

more speech player voices.

 

http://grossgang.com/tts/speechPlayer%20in%20espeak/voices.7z

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 



Re: a new modified nv-speech player

Gene
 

I'm not sure what happened last time.  I may have installed the wrong add-on.  But I double checked and installed the right one this time and I now have a lot of voices and variants.  My comments earlier should be disregarded because they refer to what appears to be an early version of the add-on which appears to be very old.  I may have downloaded it and forgotten about it a long time ago and installed it by mistake.
 
The new add-on doesn't sound anything like Eloquence and the accents and inflections aren't similar.  The american accent isn't at all American.  I'm referring to the English U.S. variant.  I'm not sure if its anything but it may be more a Scandinavian accent than anything else.  I tried the just plain English titled variant and, though the accent is different, it is somewhat similar and the inflection isn't correct in either.   
 
I don't use E-speak and those who do may know how to set the old one so it sounds better than mine or they may be using a newer version that may sound better.  But comparing the add-on to what I am familiar with interms of the old earlier version and choices such as variants, the add-on appears to sound better than the old E-Speak in terms of voice quality, but I still don't consider it pleasant.  How much might it be improved?  I don't know.  We'll have to wait and see. 
 
It may be a better choice for those who want to use E-Speak or consider it the best option they have.  I haven't heard a lot of the free synthesizers but it may now be in the range that many of them are.  But it doesn't compare with Eloquence or the old DecTalk. 
 
For people who want a free synthesizer, it's worth trying and evaluating.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Gene
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2018 10:29 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] a new modified nv-speech player

I should have said I'm not sure if my last comment was clearly stated as a question.  I'll state the question in a clear way.

I installed the add-on but I only have four voices and no varients.  Does that mean I have to install other voices?  I'm going to look at the page again but I don't recall any discussion of that on the page.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2018 7:34 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] a new modified nv-speech player

Maybe the add-on by itself doesn't have a lot of voices that are available if you run something else along with it.  But as I recall, nothing is explained on the page.  I have almost no choices in voices and I'm just running the add-on.
 
Gene
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Sent: Friday, November 02, 2018 7:12 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] a new modified nv-speech player

Hi.


I grabbed this, and my favorite configuration is the plain Klatt voice, with the pitch set to about 75%. I'm having a reasonably easy time understanding that configuration, with language set to EN-US.




Cheers:
Aaron Spears, A.K.A. valiant8086. General Partner - Valiant Galaxy Associates "We make Very Good Audiogames for the blind community - http://valiantGalaxy.com"

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On 11/2/2018 11:44 AM, Josh Kennedy wrote:

Hi,

 

A few years back nv-access made an improved ESpeak that was called nv-speech player. Since then a few people have greatly improved it! I just tried it a few minutes ago and it sounds great! It sounds almost exactly like eloquence, sort of, or maybe keynote gold, kind of. There is other stuff on this site which I will not discuss for legal reasons. And please just ignore that other *stuff*. Just focus on the free nv speech player! First, the website with the modded and improved speech player stuff. Direct link.

 

http://grossgang.com/tts/speechPlayer%20in%20espeak/

 

Now here is my favorite version of the speech player addon modified by Jason bratcher. Perhaps, with this new speech player, someone can modify its intonations and make a keynote gold speech player voice? And give it more languages?

 

http://grossgang.com/tts/speechPlayer%20in%20espeak/Jason%20Bratcher_speechPlayerInEspeak.nvda-addon

 

more speech player voices.

 

http://grossgang.com/tts/speechPlayer%20in%20espeak/voices.7z

 

 

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