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Re: NVDA with Spybot and Mozilla

Gene
 

Spybot has no antivirus function.  What program are you using as an antivirus program now?
 
What browser are you using?  I've read about Spybot but I've never seen anything about it automatically updating programs. 
 

Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2018 9:43 AM
To: nvda
Subject: [nvda] NVDA with Spybot and Mozilla

Hi NVDA Group,

The best way to do this is just pose my questions. Thanks in advance
for your helpful input.

1.  NVDA and Spybot 2.7. Does anyone know if NVDA 2.7, Search and
Destroy, also includes an anti-virus feature? Would a detailed report
of a scan be pretty long reading?

2.  As Spybot deletes passwords from browser memory, is there a way to
ensure that it leaves the browser alone so that the current classic
version remains on your computer?
I had to do a system restore to get my old browser back after a scan
session. Overall, I do like Spybot!

Best to All,
--
David Russell
david.sonofhashem@...



ccleaner new release

 

Hi all.

Here is a new release and as usual the ini file is here.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/kbbbqs8blbyuev9/ccleaner.ini?dl=1

The ini file has as usual the ics run for those that want to get the full benifits or simply don't want my file do a control f on ccleaner.ini in notepad and find cfg.

Select every line including the first cfg line and hit delete and then save the file and rerun the program.

Sadly quickclean and the settings to use it are as buggy as ever, ie I can't deselect the buttons or even do anything, and quickclean still has issues but at least now it starts by default as off.

Now as long as piriform or should I say avast corp in their infinit wizdom doesn't reenable the damn setting every few runthroughs that will actually be good.

I suspect the fact that its freezing on some units rather than my issue is probably the issue.

I really hope that at least in portable we don't have to handle these issues its why I switched to portable, firstly the visual panel and then to get away from system monitering.

The thing is, get past the inaccessible configuration and settings, the monitering, the extra not needed things like quickclean and the program is basically accessible once configured.

If you didn't have my ini file you would need sighted help to configure it once, but then you could also edit the ini file, settings mostly are true false 1 or 0 values mostly anyway.

There are custom ini files you can put in or get bits from to.

And there are ways to add things in if you need just remember eventually the datafile entries will slow the engine down.

With all that out the way, ccleaner is still in my view a good program.


Re: Skype ver 8.33

Sarah k Alawami
 

I use skype and zoom. Skype for one of my jobs and zoom for another. I want to actually start teaching classes so will consider integrating class room like features of zoom if I can figure out how. By the way skype 8 is very very accessible. You jus tneed to use your web browsing functiosn. It's not a big deal really, or won't be if you can think of skype like a a big web page. They have wanted to do this since about 2004 when I started to use skype.

On 12 Nov 2018, at 9:30, Shaun Everiss wrote:

Well skype classic is gone or is soon to be.

Skype 8 is what you will have if you need it.

I know people have used it but fortunately as I have little need of it for business and can switch most of that to email I simply have left that behind.

Its accessible supoposed to be more so but who knows or cares if you don't need it.

On 11/13/2018 3:15 AM, Paul O'Rahilly wrote: > Folks > > Forgive me if you have discussed this already. > > I stupidly upgraded my Skype classic to the latest ver 8.33. > > I'm struggling to make it work with either NVDA or JAWS, with the > same > ease as Skype classic. > > Does anyone have suggestions ?. > > Thanks, Paul > > > > . >


Re: Skype ver 8.33

 

Well skype classic is gone or is soon to be.

Skype 8 is what you will have if you need it.

I know people have used it but fortunately as I have little need of it for business and can switch most of that to email I simply have left that behind.

Its accessible supoposed to be more so but who knows or cares if you don't need it.

On 11/13/2018 3:15 AM, Paul O'Rahilly wrote:
Folks

Forgive me if you have discussed this already.

I stupidly upgraded my Skype classic to the latest ver 8.33.

I'm struggling to make it work with either NVDA or JAWS, with the same
ease as Skype classic.

Does anyone have suggestions ?.

Thanks, Paul


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Re: Skype ver 8.33

Sarah k Alawami
 

Yes. We discuss skype 8 and higher on my skype english list. Iuse the web browser keys and skype is very very easy to navigate, I do this all the time. For a link to the skype english group go here.

Take care

On 12 Nov 2018, at 6:15, Paul O'Rahilly wrote:

Folks

Forgive me if you have discussed this already.

I stupidly upgraded my Skype classic to the latest ver 8.33.

I'm struggling to make it work with either NVDA or JAWS, with the same
ease as Skype classic.

Does anyone have suggestions ?.

Thanks, Paul


Re: Navigating Tables in Word

Rui Fontes
 

If I remember correctly, you must do NVDA+Space to toggle on the browse mode, then you can press T for tables...

Rui


Às 13:21 de 12/11/2018, David Kingsbury escreveu:

Hello all,
Is there a keystroke for coming up with a list of tables in a Word document?
Thanks for any help on this.


NVDA with Spybot and Mozilla

David Russell
 

Hi NVDA Group,

The best way to do this is just pose my questions. Thanks in advance
for your helpful input.

1. NVDA and Spybot 2.7. Does anyone know if NVDA 2.7, Search and
Destroy, also includes an anti-virus feature? Would a detailed report
of a scan be pretty long reading?

2. As Spybot deletes passwords from browser memory, is there a way to
ensure that it leaves the browser alone so that the current classic
version remains on your computer?
I had to do a system restore to get my old browser back after a scan
session. Overall, I do like Spybot!

Best to All,
--
David Russell
david.sonofhashem@gmail.com


Re: Skype ver 8.33

Chris
 

What exactly is the problem?

 

 

 

 

From: Paul O'Rahilly
Sent: 12 November 2018 14:15
To: nvda
Subject: [nvda] Skype ver 8.33

 

Folks

 

Forgive me if you have discussed this already.

 

I stupidly upgraded my Skype classic to the latest ver 8.33.

 

I'm struggling to make it work with either NVDA or JAWS, with the same

ease as Skype classic.

 

Does anyone have suggestions  ?.

 

Thanks, Paul

 

 

 


Re: Skype ver 8.33

Gene
 

I doubt that addresses the problem.  If a lot of people use Skype you talk with and not another program as well such as Team Talk, then you would have to use Skype and not another such program to talk with them, isn't that correct? 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Ame
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2018 8:36 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Skype ver 8.33

I’ve got the solution to your problem and it’s got nothing to do with skype and doesn’t cost anything.  There’s a tremendous app you can put on the computer and on your smart phone.  It’s called Teamtalk.  You can get it at www.bearware.dk.  When you get to the download page, it’s gonna recommend that you download Teamtalk % Classic for accessibility.  It’s a little more involved to set up than skype and you have to have their help doing it.  They have to activate your server which doesn’t have to be public.  In the case of a private server, you’d have to give someone the credentials (port numbers, servername, etc.)  If you have a decent microphone, you won’t believe the clarity.  And, when you have conversations, you and the other party don’t cut into each other if one of you should happen to start speaking before the other finishes.  There’s just a hugely positive difference between teamtalk and apps like skype and google hangouts.   I hope you decide to try it.  Good luck.


Re: Skype ver 8.33

Ame
 

I’ve got the solution to your problem and it’s got nothing to do with skype and doesn’t cost anything.  There’s a tremendous app you can put on the computer and on your smart phone.  It’s called Teamtalk.  You can get it at www.bearware.dk.  When you get to the download page, it’s gonna recommend that you download Teamtalk % Classic for accessibility.  It’s a little more involved to set up than skype and you have to have their help doing it.  They have to activate your server which doesn’t have to be public.  In the case of a private server, you’d have to give someone the credentials (port numbers, servername, etc.)  If you have a decent microphone, you won’t believe the clarity.  And, when you have conversations, you and the other party don’t cut into each other if one of you should happen to start speaking before the other finishes.  There’s just a hugely positive difference between teamtalk and apps like skype and google hangouts.   I hope you decide to try it.  Good luck.


Re: how to set nvda auto read

Gene
 

Then you will have to turn speech off and turn it on again when you want speech.  But it's probably more trouble than it's worth if I understand what you are doing.  Can't you just arrow as you would whether you hear speech or not?  To stop speech, issue the command NVDA key s.  To resume speech, issue the same command twice.
 
Since old speech stops instantly each time you arrow, why does it matter if you turn speech off while moving?
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2018 7:09 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] how to set nvda auto read

I want no speech while it moves, it should speak only after it has moved to the desired position.


NVDA and add-on updates when a http proxy is used

Christian Schoepplein
 

Hello,

in my job I have to use a http proxy to access the internet. The proxy
settings for the browser (Firefox) and the operating system (Win7) are
provided by a proxy.pac file stored on the proxy itself.

Unfortunatly neither NVDA, nor any add-on, can be updated automaticaly. It
seems that NVDA is not using the proxy settings for the browser or
operating system.

Is this a missing feature or can I somewhere specify htt proxy settings
for NVDA? Where can I open a bugreport or feature request for this issue?
Its not uncommon, that proxy servers are used in company environments and
IMHO NVDA should be able to deal with this.

Cheers and thanks for any help,

Schoepp


Skype ver 8.33

Paul O'Rahilly
 

Folks

Forgive me if you have discussed this already.

I stupidly upgraded my Skype classic to the latest ver 8.33.

I'm struggling to make it work with either NVDA or JAWS, with the same
ease as Skype classic.

Does anyone have suggestions ?.

Thanks, Paul


Navigating Tables in Word

David Kingsbury
 

Hello all,

Is there a keystroke for coming up with a list of tables in a Word document?

Thanks for any help on this.


Re: how to set nvda auto read

Shradha Holani <shradhaholani@...>
 

I want no speech while it moves, it should speak only after it has moved to the desired position.


Re: Accessible CD ripper

Gene
 

Microsoft programs such as Media Player and utilities such as the unzip utility are simple in terms of not being nearly as customizable or allowing you to do as many things or setting parameters more demanding users may want to set but they do what the majority of users want done and they do them well. 
 
At times, they actually are better or more convenient than other widely used programs.  There is a bias against using such programs but consider the following examples:
If you listen to a lot of spoken word material such as podcasts and want to speed up speech while keeping the pitch the same, Windows Media Player does that better than Winamp and VLC Player.  The quality is so much better that I use Windows Media Player for this purpose.  But it isn't as convenient to use in this way, because of the interface as I would like so if anyone knows a program that does this as well and has really compared, I'd like to know.  For speeding speech up by perhaps about thirty or forty percent, other programs may be acceptable and they are more convenient.  But when you get up to something like forty or fifty percent or beyond, there is no comparison in quality between those programs and Windows Media Player.
 
The zip utility in Windows has a very convenient feature.  If you want to add something to an existing zip archive, copy the file or files to the clipboard, then, leave the folder opened, open the zip folder and paste.  The files will be zipped in that folder. 
 
You can unzip one or more files to an existing folder by selecting them in the zip folder, leave it opened, open the folder you want to unzip them to, and paste in that folder.  I won't discuss how you zip and unzip entire folders here.
 
I almost never burn or rip anymore and there may be other programs that are more convenient to use for this purpose but I used Media Player because it isn't difficult, I didn't care about controling more essoteric parameters, and I learned how to do it from curiosity since it was already on the system.  I'm not recommending or not recommending Media Player for ripping and burning.  I'm saying that people may not try it because of a bias against Microsoft small programs and utilities and that bias isn't justified.  For many users, those utilities and programs do what is wanted by most users keeping things more simple, at times doing something better than many other programs, and I think they are at least worth keeping in mind and either trying or asking about.  Some of these small programs may not be as good as the ones I discussed but I'm trying to reduce the bias and open people to considering this option.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2018 9:43 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessible CD ripper

I recently just completed a CD ripping project and ripped over 600 CDs with WMP with no problems at all. WMP data base failed less than 10 times to find the data for those particular CDs. 
 
From: Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2018 6:31 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessible CD ripper
 

That's what I use for ripping CD's too.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2018 9:47 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessible CD ripper

 

If Windows Media Player is accessible it is included with Windows 10, though Microsoft doesn't advertise the fact.  That's been my CD Ripping program of choice for a very long time now.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

          ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back

 

 


Re: Accessible CD ripper

 

I agree with you brian.

I have an apple device, and it needs itunes, and I use itunes, and the main music server libs are in itunes.

Thats all well and good but after a lot of doodling I messed up things a bit.

The main box needed a good reformat of its os drive, but the library was in a terrible state mainly because I never maintained it.

To fix it, you basically need to make a backup of the datafiles, kill the previous itunes folder, kill all the library files, copy back the main itl and open it, then import everything to it.

It can be done but its fiddly as heck.

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Itunes? and you are still sane? Must have a good shrink!
Sorry being silly. I must learn to be sensible!
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin" <kleeva5@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2018 6:32 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessible CD ripper


ITunes is free, and you can set it so whenever you insert  a cd it will automatically rip or what apple calls import.  You can also set it to retrieve song info from the internet.

E-mail is golden!!!
Kevin Lee

From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2018 9:47 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessible CD ripper

If Windows Media Player is accessible it is included with Windows 10, though Microsoft doesn't advertise the fact. That's been my CD Ripping program of choice for a very long time now.


Re: Accessible CD ripper

 

Goldwave is not to fiddly its why I use it.

A standard menu for most of it and property sheets for the rest, now you do need to know what stuff is bit rates etc but its fine.

On 11/12/2018 9:56 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
It seems a lot for what CDEX does for nothing. I think you can with care use even Goldwave or winamp as  well, but they are a little more fiddly.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Roger Stewart" <paganus2@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2018 5:35 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessible CD ripper


It isn't free but you can use it for about a month as a trial version. A lifetime license is only $20 or that's what I paid several years ago.

Roger










On 11/11/2018 9:46 AM, Joseph Weakland wrote:
is this program free?



On 11/11/2018 9:39 AM, Roger Stewart wrote:
I like EZ Audio Converter. Recent versions have become accessible. Earlier ones weren't in that you couldn't select or unselect tracks using the keyboard but now you can. It automatically checks a CD and if it exists in the on line database, all the title, artist and track info is imported so if you rip files from it, they will be properly labeled.

Roger










On 11/11/2018 9:07 AM, Lisa P Geibel wrote:
Hi,

Subject says it all. Does anyone know of a good CD ripper that will identify the CD title and tracks on it? We used to use CDEx, but on these new CDs we just got, it isn't identifying anything. Please help? We're using the latest version of NVDA and we're using Windows 10 version 1803.







Re: cd rippers

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

Yes well, the fact is cdex can actually look at the text on disc, and that in most cases gets me out of the awkward issue of not having any database for that ced. Of course home made cds are a whole other thing and will need you to manually do them.Beware if you do though to only submit them to your local database or it will cause problems as the checksum could be in use by something more mainstream.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Shaun Everiss" <sm.everiss@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2018 7:17 PM
Subject: [nvda] cd rippers


Hi.

I wouldn't use itunes, unless you have an apple device, its bloated and well overkill if all you want are simple cd wripping.

Nch software has a cd ripper, its full of adds but if you use it its accessible and you can buy it.

I used to use old nero6, it was cracked never was able to afford it myself.

With the latest windows not working with it though at that point 7, and with versions upwards of 6 not being as accessible as I liked I switched to 2 modules.

Goldwave for ripping and cdbxp for writing.

The reason I didn't want to pay is I hardly write cds or dvds at all.

Goldwave doesn't have gracenote like itunes has which is either an disadvantage or advantage depending on how you look at it.

You can submit your data to gracenote and look at updating the database yourself.

On the other hand, apple and everyone will know what you are putting in.

If that matters to you well who knows.

Goldwave like nero6 uses freecddb.org databases, they are not always acurate and I am unsure how they are maintained but they work well enough mostly.

The databases are free and opensource so they are not always that fast accessing but unless you need to do this as a job I wouldn't bother.

If it is a job and or you need to bother itunes will probably do it though just make sure you don't mangle your library its easy to get out of organised sync, it can be regenerated but its a bit of work to do.




Re: Accessible CD ripper

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Itunes? and you are still sane? Must have a good shrink!
Sorry being silly. I must learn to be sensible!
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Kevin" <kleeva5@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2018 6:32 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessible CD ripper


ITunes is free, and you can set it so whenever you insert a cd it will automatically rip or what apple calls import. You can also set it to retrieve song info from the internet.

E-mail is golden!!!
Kevin Lee

From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2018 9:47 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessible CD ripper

If Windows Media Player is accessible it is included with Windows 10, though Microsoft doesn't advertise the fact. That's been my CD Ripping program of choice for a very long time now.

--
Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763
A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.
~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back