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Re: ccleaner new release

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The latest release has an issue. If you dally around when going through the buttons, on the new quick thingymajig, it auto activates, leaving you in an inaccessible window, which you have to close to carry on.
It seems to me this so called new feature is simply the old customise feature brought out on the top level and made not to work with a screenreader very well. Hitting custom seems to just behave as before.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Shaun Everiss" <sm.everiss@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2018 6:00 PM
Subject: [nvda] ccleaner new release


Hi all.

Here is a new release and as usual the ini file is here.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/kbbbqs8blbyuev9/ccleaner.ini?dl=1

The ini file has as usual the ics run for those that want to get the full benifits or simply don't want my file do a control f on ccleaner.ini in notepad and find cfg.

Select every line including the first cfg line and hit delete and then save the file and rerun the program.

Sadly quickclean and the settings to use it are as buggy as ever, ie I can't deselect the buttons or even do anything, and quickclean still has issues but at least now it starts by default as off.

Now as long as piriform or should I say avast corp in their infinit wizdom doesn't reenable the damn setting every few runthroughs that will actually be good.

I suspect the fact that its freezing on some units rather than my issue is probably the issue.

I really hope that at least in portable we don't have to handle these issues its why I switched to portable, firstly the visual panel and then to get away from system monitering.

The thing is, get past the inaccessible configuration and settings, the monitering, the extra not needed things like quickclean and the program is basically accessible once configured.

If you didn't have my ini file you would need sighted help to configure it once, but then you could also edit the ini file, settings mostly are true false 1 or 0 values mostly anyway.

There are custom ini files you can put in or get bits from to.

And there are ways to add things in if you need just remember eventually the datafile entries will slow the engine down.

With all that out the way, ccleaner is still in my view a good program.




Re: Skype ver 8.33

 

hi chris and all.
as i use windows xp and skype 8 is not supported on xp, i decided to
try other programs.
can you please explane me differences between skype and zoom?
i also tried teamtalk and the quality was extremely great, but the
difficulty is not having account like skype and need port, server, etc
which made teamtalk a little dificult for me in compare to skype which
is more private, i have my account and only have relations with people
who i know.
how about zoom? is it like skype in this regard or like teamtalk?
i really appreciate any help and wish to contact to other people, but
dont know what can i do now!
God bless you all!

On 11/12/18, hurrikennyandopo ... <hurrikennyandopo@hotmail.com> wrote:
Hi


the following tutorial for skype 8 should help you it can be found off the
following page at
http://accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20tutorials%20for%20other%20programs.html

When you go to the page you can jump down by headings to the tutorial for
skype 8 plus the older version. there is a web version which is not up there
at present for skype which will get posted sooner or later.


Gene nz


On 13/11/2018 3:15 AM, Paul O'Rahilly wrote:

Folks

Forgive me if you have discussed this already.

I stupidly upgraded my Skype classic to the latest ver 8.33.

I'm struggling to make it work with either NVDA or JAWS, with the same
ease as Skype classic.

Does anyone have suggestions ?.

Thanks, Paul





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screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or
location) is near to you please visit
http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa
People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please
visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The
certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals
from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert
exam.



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with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali


Re: NVDA with Spybot and Mozilla

 

hi, me too.
i have firefox 52 and never update it.
you can do uncheck automatic update, in tools, options, advance,
update and set firefox to never check for update. as i did.
also, you can remove maintenance service in control panel add remove
programs or programs and features.
i also, did this task in about:config to be sure never update for firefox!
although i have windows xp and fortunately updating to firefox quantum
is not possible on xp.
but unfortunately github became a little unsupported with firefox 52.
for example: i cant follow nvda milestones anymore or edit my written comments.

On 11/13/18, Gene <gsasner@gmail.com> wrote:
This is just one review. here is a brief excerpt:
https://www.techadvisor.co.uk/download/security/spybot-search-destroy-2764-3248870/
It won't replace your antivirus package, but Spybot - Search & Destroy can
provide an important extra layer of security, helping you to detect and
remove even more malware

I suspect that will be the view of reliable sources you check. I don't know
anything about this source, but it looks reliable to me.

Gene
----- Original Message -----


From: David Russell
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2018 2:23 PM
To: nvda
Subject: [nvda] NVDA with Spybot and Mozilla


Hello Group,

To follow up with Gene and others:

I am using FF version fifty-two presently.
Again, I want to stay with this, and turn off the occasional notices
to update to FF 63 or whatever the numeric. I am not sure how to do
that or if I can?

Here is the link implying Spybot 2.7, which is on my computer,
contains anti-virus. My comment follows.
Here comes 2.7 - Spybot Anti-Malware and Antivirus : Spybot Anti ...
https://www.safer-networking.org/here-comes-2-7/Result Options
May 3, 2018 - This is the new Spybot – Search & Destroy 2.7.64. We are
proud to present a new version of Spybot – Search & Destroy that will
give you not only new features, but better security and faster scans.
Spybot 2.x FAQ

Comment: I am in search of an easy to use AV program and found Avast
difficult to run to install. I am not happy with Microsoft Security
Essentials, and AVG is difficult to update on my own as a blind
person. Thanks.
Best,
--
David Russell
david.sonofhashem@gmail.com





--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali


Windows 10 App Essentials and SPL Studio add-on 18.11.2 #addonrelease

 

Hi everyone,

 

SPL Studio and Windows 10 App Essentials 18.11.2 will hit the air in about half an hour from now. As always, you can obtain latest releases of these add-ons in not one, not two, but three ways: community add-ons website, Add-on Updater, or via standalone update check feature provided by these add-ons (I think, for many of you now, option two would be the best choice).

 

Changelog:

StationPlaylist Studio: localization updates.

 

Windows 10 App Essentials:

  • If you’re using a Windows 10 release which is going through a “remedial class”, you’ll notice slight improvements in how NVDA announces clipboard status, especially when clipboard history is empty. This is not to be confused with a version of Windows 10 that is “behind the curtain” – they are two completely different things, but what I’m saying about the former will apply to the latter (to be explained shortly).
  • In Settings (Windows+I), NVDA will no longer appear to do nothing or play error tones while using object navigation commands in some circumstances.
  • Localization updates.

 

Regarding Windows 10 releases I mentioned:

  • Remedial class: Version 1809
  • Behind the curtain: Insider Preview

 

Few more announcements regarding these add-ons:

 

For StationPlaylist Studio users:

  • Python 3 compatibility: almost. Both stable and 18.09.x LTS are almost Python 3 ready (there are two or three things that needs to change, but apart from that, it is ready for Python 3).
  • Studio 5.11 compatibility: sometime in 2019, I plan to release a stable version of this add-on that’ll absolutely require Studio 5.20 and later due to some internal changes. In particular, certain SPL Assistant layer commands will benefit from changes made to studio routines in 5.20 and later, hence improving responsiveness of affected commands. Once I settle on the cut off release (likely in the second half of 2019), I’ll give you sixty days’ notice before asking Studio 5.11 users to switch to LTS channel.

 

Windows 10 App Essentials:

  • Extended support for Version 1709 (Fall Creators Update): Windows 10 Version 1709 will be supported by this add-on until February 28, 2019.

 

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: NVDA with Spybot and Mozilla

Gene
 

This is just one review.  here is a brief excerpt:
It won't replace your antivirus package, but Spybot - Search & Destroy can provide an important extra layer of security, helping you to detect and remove even more malware
 
I suspect that will be the view of reliable sources you check.  I don't know anything about this source, but it looks reliable to me.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, November 12, 2018 2:23 PM
To: nvda
Subject: [nvda] NVDA with Spybot and Mozilla

Hello Group,

To follow up with Gene and others:

I am using FF version fifty-two presently.
Again, I want to stay with this, and turn off the occasional notices
to update to FF 63 or whatever the numeric. I am not sure how to do
that or if I can?

Here is the link implying Spybot 2.7, which is on my computer,
contains anti-virus. My comment follows.
Here comes 2.7 - Spybot Anti-Malware and Antivirus : Spybot Anti ...
https://www.safer-networking.org/here-comes-2-7/Result Options
May 3, 2018 - This is the new Spybot – Search & Destroy 2.7.64. We are
proud to present a new version of Spybot – Search & Destroy that will
give you not only new features, but better security and faster scans.
Spybot 2.x FAQ

Comment: I am in search of an easy to use AV program and found Avast
difficult to run to install. I am not happy with Microsoft Security
Essentials, and AVG is difficult to update on my own as a blind
person. Thanks.
Best,
--
David Russell
david.sonofhashem@...



Re: NVDA with Spybot and Mozilla

Gene
 

Why aren't you happy with Microsoft Security Essentials?  It had a bad reputation perhaps two or three years ago but its reputation has improved a great deal since then.  It may be worth considering.  I don't know if antivirus ability has been added to Spybot very recently.  It never had this ability in the past and I have no idea how good its antivirus activity is, if present.  I would suggest you do a Google search for Spybot and the version nnumber of the program and write the word review after the name and version number. 
 
You may be going through trouble and work to use a program you may find you don't want to use but I don't know enough about the program to say if it is a good choice or not.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2018 2:23 PM
To: nvda
Subject: [nvda] NVDA with Spybot and Mozilla

Hello Group,

To follow up with Gene and others:

I am using FF version fifty-two presently.
Again, I want to stay with this, and turn off the occasional notices
to update to FF 63 or whatever the numeric. I am not sure how to do
that or if I can?

Here is the link implying Spybot 2.7, which is on my computer,
contains anti-virus. My comment follows.
Here comes 2.7 - Spybot Anti-Malware and Antivirus : Spybot Anti ...
https://www.safer-networking.org/here-comes-2-7/Result Options
May 3, 2018 - This is the new Spybot – Search & Destroy 2.7.64. We are
proud to present a new version of Spybot – Search & Destroy that will
give you not only new features, but better security and faster scans.
Spybot 2.x FAQ

Comment: I am in search of an easy to use AV program and found Avast
difficult to run to install. I am not happy with Microsoft Security
Essentials, and AVG is difficult to update on my own as a blind
person. Thanks.
Best,
--
David Russell
david.sonofhashem@...



NVDA with Spybot and Mozilla

David Russell
 

Hello Group,

To follow up with Gene and others:

I am using FF version fifty-two presently.
Again, I want to stay with this, and turn off the occasional notices
to update to FF 63 or whatever the numeric. I am not sure how to do
that or if I can?

Here is the link implying Spybot 2.7, which is on my computer,
contains anti-virus. My comment follows.
Here comes 2.7 - Spybot Anti-Malware and Antivirus : Spybot Anti ...
https://www.safer-networking.org/here-comes-2-7/Result Options
May 3, 2018 - This is the new Spybot – Search & Destroy 2.7.64. We are
proud to present a new version of Spybot – Search & Destroy that will
give you not only new features, but better security and faster scans.
Spybot 2.x FAQ

Comment: I am in search of an easy to use AV program and found Avast
difficult to run to install. I am not happy with Microsoft Security
Essentials, and AVG is difficult to update on my own as a blind
person. Thanks.
Best,
--
David Russell
david.sonofhashem@gmail.com


Re: Skype ver 8.33

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi


the following tutorial for skype 8 should help you it can be found off the following page at http://accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20tutorials%20for%20other%20programs.html

When you go to the page you can jump down by headings to the tutorial for skype 8 plus the older version. there is a web version which is not up there at present for skype which will get posted sooner or later.


Gene nz



On 13/11/2018 3:15 AM, Paul O'Rahilly wrote:
Folks

Forgive me if you have discussed this already.

I stupidly upgraded my Skype classic to the latest ver 8.33.

I'm struggling to make it work with either NVDA or JAWS, with the same
ease as Skype classic.

Does anyone have suggestions  ?.

Thanks, Paul




--
Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.


Re: NVDA with Spybot and Mozilla

Gene
 

Spybot has no antivirus function.  What program are you using as an antivirus program now?
 
What browser are you using?  I've read about Spybot but I've never seen anything about it automatically updating programs. 
 

Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2018 9:43 AM
To: nvda
Subject: [nvda] NVDA with Spybot and Mozilla

Hi NVDA Group,

The best way to do this is just pose my questions. Thanks in advance
for your helpful input.

1.  NVDA and Spybot 2.7. Does anyone know if NVDA 2.7, Search and
Destroy, also includes an anti-virus feature? Would a detailed report
of a scan be pretty long reading?

2.  As Spybot deletes passwords from browser memory, is there a way to
ensure that it leaves the browser alone so that the current classic
version remains on your computer?
I had to do a system restore to get my old browser back after a scan
session. Overall, I do like Spybot!

Best to All,
--
David Russell
david.sonofhashem@...



ccleaner new release

 

Hi all.

Here is a new release and as usual the ini file is here.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/kbbbqs8blbyuev9/ccleaner.ini?dl=1

The ini file has as usual the ics run for those that want to get the full benifits or simply don't want my file do a control f on ccleaner.ini in notepad and find cfg.

Select every line including the first cfg line and hit delete and then save the file and rerun the program.

Sadly quickclean and the settings to use it are as buggy as ever, ie I can't deselect the buttons or even do anything, and quickclean still has issues but at least now it starts by default as off.

Now as long as piriform or should I say avast corp in their infinit wizdom doesn't reenable the damn setting every few runthroughs that will actually be good.

I suspect the fact that its freezing on some units rather than my issue is probably the issue.

I really hope that at least in portable we don't have to handle these issues its why I switched to portable, firstly the visual panel and then to get away from system monitering.

The thing is, get past the inaccessible configuration and settings, the monitering, the extra not needed things like quickclean and the program is basically accessible once configured.

If you didn't have my ini file you would need sighted help to configure it once, but then you could also edit the ini file, settings mostly are true false 1 or 0 values mostly anyway.

There are custom ini files you can put in or get bits from to.

And there are ways to add things in if you need just remember eventually the datafile entries will slow the engine down.

With all that out the way, ccleaner is still in my view a good program.


Re: Skype ver 8.33

Sarah k Alawami
 

I use skype and zoom. Skype for one of my jobs and zoom for another. I want to actually start teaching classes so will consider integrating class room like features of zoom if I can figure out how. By the way skype 8 is very very accessible. You jus tneed to use your web browsing functiosn. It's not a big deal really, or won't be if you can think of skype like a a big web page. They have wanted to do this since about 2004 when I started to use skype.

On 12 Nov 2018, at 9:30, Shaun Everiss wrote:

Well skype classic is gone or is soon to be.

Skype 8 is what you will have if you need it.

I know people have used it but fortunately as I have little need of it for business and can switch most of that to email I simply have left that behind.

Its accessible supoposed to be more so but who knows or cares if you don't need it.

On 11/13/2018 3:15 AM, Paul O'Rahilly wrote: > Folks > > Forgive me if you have discussed this already. > > I stupidly upgraded my Skype classic to the latest ver 8.33. > > I'm struggling to make it work with either NVDA or JAWS, with the > same > ease as Skype classic. > > Does anyone have suggestions ?. > > Thanks, Paul > > > > . >


Re: Skype ver 8.33

 

Well skype classic is gone or is soon to be.

Skype 8 is what you will have if you need it.

I know people have used it but fortunately as I have little need of it for business and can switch most of that to email I simply have left that behind.

Its accessible supoposed to be more so but who knows or cares if you don't need it.

On 11/13/2018 3:15 AM, Paul O'Rahilly wrote:
Folks

Forgive me if you have discussed this already.

I stupidly upgraded my Skype classic to the latest ver 8.33.

I'm struggling to make it work with either NVDA or JAWS, with the same
ease as Skype classic.

Does anyone have suggestions ?.

Thanks, Paul


.


Re: Skype ver 8.33

Sarah k Alawami
 

Yes. We discuss skype 8 and higher on my skype english list. Iuse the web browser keys and skype is very very easy to navigate, I do this all the time. For a link to the skype english group go here.

Take care

On 12 Nov 2018, at 6:15, Paul O'Rahilly wrote:

Folks

Forgive me if you have discussed this already.

I stupidly upgraded my Skype classic to the latest ver 8.33.

I'm struggling to make it work with either NVDA or JAWS, with the same
ease as Skype classic.

Does anyone have suggestions ?.

Thanks, Paul


Re: Navigating Tables in Word

Rui Fontes
 

If I remember correctly, you must do NVDA+Space to toggle on the browse mode, then you can press T for tables...

Rui


Às 13:21 de 12/11/2018, David Kingsbury escreveu:

Hello all,
Is there a keystroke for coming up with a list of tables in a Word document?
Thanks for any help on this.


NVDA with Spybot and Mozilla

David Russell
 

Hi NVDA Group,

The best way to do this is just pose my questions. Thanks in advance
for your helpful input.

1. NVDA and Spybot 2.7. Does anyone know if NVDA 2.7, Search and
Destroy, also includes an anti-virus feature? Would a detailed report
of a scan be pretty long reading?

2. As Spybot deletes passwords from browser memory, is there a way to
ensure that it leaves the browser alone so that the current classic
version remains on your computer?
I had to do a system restore to get my old browser back after a scan
session. Overall, I do like Spybot!

Best to All,
--
David Russell
david.sonofhashem@gmail.com


Re: Skype ver 8.33

Chris
 

What exactly is the problem?

 

 

 

 

From: Paul O'Rahilly
Sent: 12 November 2018 14:15
To: nvda
Subject: [nvda] Skype ver 8.33

 

Folks

 

Forgive me if you have discussed this already.

 

I stupidly upgraded my Skype classic to the latest ver 8.33.

 

I'm struggling to make it work with either NVDA or JAWS, with the same

ease as Skype classic.

 

Does anyone have suggestions  ?.

 

Thanks, Paul

 

 

 


Re: Skype ver 8.33

Gene
 

I doubt that addresses the problem.  If a lot of people use Skype you talk with and not another program as well such as Team Talk, then you would have to use Skype and not another such program to talk with them, isn't that correct? 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Ame
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2018 8:36 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Skype ver 8.33

I’ve got the solution to your problem and it’s got nothing to do with skype and doesn’t cost anything.  There’s a tremendous app you can put on the computer and on your smart phone.  It’s called Teamtalk.  You can get it at www.bearware.dk.  When you get to the download page, it’s gonna recommend that you download Teamtalk % Classic for accessibility.  It’s a little more involved to set up than skype and you have to have their help doing it.  They have to activate your server which doesn’t have to be public.  In the case of a private server, you’d have to give someone the credentials (port numbers, servername, etc.)  If you have a decent microphone, you won’t believe the clarity.  And, when you have conversations, you and the other party don’t cut into each other if one of you should happen to start speaking before the other finishes.  There’s just a hugely positive difference between teamtalk and apps like skype and google hangouts.   I hope you decide to try it.  Good luck.


Re: Skype ver 8.33

Ame
 

I’ve got the solution to your problem and it’s got nothing to do with skype and doesn’t cost anything.  There’s a tremendous app you can put on the computer and on your smart phone.  It’s called Teamtalk.  You can get it at www.bearware.dk.  When you get to the download page, it’s gonna recommend that you download Teamtalk % Classic for accessibility.  It’s a little more involved to set up than skype and you have to have their help doing it.  They have to activate your server which doesn’t have to be public.  In the case of a private server, you’d have to give someone the credentials (port numbers, servername, etc.)  If you have a decent microphone, you won’t believe the clarity.  And, when you have conversations, you and the other party don’t cut into each other if one of you should happen to start speaking before the other finishes.  There’s just a hugely positive difference between teamtalk and apps like skype and google hangouts.   I hope you decide to try it.  Good luck.


Re: how to set nvda auto read

Gene
 

Then you will have to turn speech off and turn it on again when you want speech.  But it's probably more trouble than it's worth if I understand what you are doing.  Can't you just arrow as you would whether you hear speech or not?  To stop speech, issue the command NVDA key s.  To resume speech, issue the same command twice.
 
Since old speech stops instantly each time you arrow, why does it matter if you turn speech off while moving?
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2018 7:09 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] how to set nvda auto read

I want no speech while it moves, it should speak only after it has moved to the desired position.


NVDA and add-on updates when a http proxy is used

Christian Schoepplein
 

Hello,

in my job I have to use a http proxy to access the internet. The proxy
settings for the browser (Firefox) and the operating system (Win7) are
provided by a proxy.pac file stored on the proxy itself.

Unfortunatly neither NVDA, nor any add-on, can be updated automaticaly. It
seems that NVDA is not using the proxy settings for the browser or
operating system.

Is this a missing feature or can I somewhere specify htt proxy settings
for NVDA? Where can I open a bugreport or feature request for this issue?
Its not uncommon, that proxy servers are used in company environments and
IMHO NVDA should be able to deal with this.

Cheers and thanks for any help,

Schoepp