Hi,



I deleted the log content (over a megabyte in size).

As far as I can tell, there is no single entry regarding Add-on Updater;
instead, it is filled with event execution error coming from Audio Themes 3D
add-on.

Because the add-ons community lost contact with author of Audio Themes 3D
add-on (or this person is not responding), it appears we need to create a
community-based patch for this add-on, similar to what I did with Remote
add-on a few months ago. I'll bring this up with add-ons community this
weekend.

Cheers,

joseph

I use internet explorer and sometimes will switch temporarly to firefox if explorer is giving me trouble. I have never only used one dedicated web browser.

At the same time, I use my Iphone for some browsing and online services, as the rendering in IOS with voice over loads much more quickly and with much more accessibility than in a browser form on a desktop or laptop computer. For example, NVDA and going thorugh paypal on a desktop or laptop is a bit more cumbersome than when I grab my Iphone and send money by paypal thorugh safari.

I miss the good old days of awful and boring web sites that were all basic html.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Russell
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2018 8:51 AM
To: nvda <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [EXTERNAL] - [nvda] FireFox and Other Browsers

Hello Group,

In response to the posts by Gene, it is my understanding that FireFox
63 is not all that readily user-friendly for totally blind persons using a screen reader. I do not understand the reasons. I have been recommended to switch to Google Chrome and say bye-bye to FireFox as it is easily hacked and the changes made are seen as disastrous. That from an acquaintance who earns their living doing tech support. As to 'accessibility' if you can find articles from Intopia or Webaim that relate to FireFox and such, that may be your best bet. Each organization is heavy into accessibility interest.

If I follow through with this recommend, Do I need mouse clicks to open GMail attachments if using Chrome as my primary browser?
And, is Thunderbird compatible with Chrome?

Of note, I found in a dated NVDA post from 2017 that Sophos was recommended as an Anti-virus program. In an attempt to download, it would not complete on my end and was said to be corrupt. Be careful with that one if considering Sophos. Thanks.

--
David Russell
david.sonofhashem@gmail.com



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Hello Group,

In response to the posts by Gene, it is my understanding that FireFox
63 is not all that readily user-friendly for totally blind persons
using a screen reader. I do not understand the reasons. I have been
recommended to switch to Google Chrome and say bye-bye to FireFox as
it is easily hacked and the changes made are seen as disastrous. That
from an acquaintance who earns their living doing tech support. As to
'accessibility' if you can find articles from Intopia or Webaim that
relate to FireFox and such, that may be your best bet. Each
organization is heavy into accessibility interest.

If I follow through with this recommend, Do I need mouse clicks to
open GMail attachments if using Chrome as my primary browser?
And, is Thunderbird compatible with Chrome?

Of note, I found in a dated NVDA post from 2017 that Sophos was
recommended as an Anti-virus program. In an attempt to download, it
would not complete on my end and was said to be corrupt. Be careful
with that one if considering Sophos. Thanks.

--
David Russell
david.sonofhashem@gmail.com

Basic sites still exist by the way. Take a look at neocities.org just
for fun.

I am getting the same issue with waterfox to.

Could be a page issue who knows.



On 11/15/2018 4:46 PM, zahra wrote:

hi shaun.
can you please test for me working github with old engine firefox or
waterfox?
for example: when i open
https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/milestone/42
and i press h many times to go to the position that nvda says:
nvda 2018.4
and go down until nvda says:
77 closed and press enter on it, nothing happen!
it means that i cant follow nvda progress, new features, changes and
bug fixes anymore on github!
also, when i sign in to my account and wish to edit my written
comments, i cant edit them and editing does not work for me.
whenever i open github, nvda says that the version of my firefox is
not up to date and github does not support older versions of firefox
anymore!
i did not have such problems last week.

On 11/15/18, Hope Williamson via Groups.Io <isepic=lavabit.com@groups.io>
wrote:

Unfortunately, Waterfox will be based on ESR releases so it will get
Quantum at some point.
https://blog.waterfoxproject.org/waterfox-its-legacy-and-looking-to-the-future

    I really do like Waterfox. However, I don't want the Quantum stuff
because every time I've attempted to use it, it seems slower and more
unstable than what Firefox used to be without Quantum.

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rechell Schwartz
Sent: November 6, 2018 21:56
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Spanish Support

I normally run that script I posted about every 5 or so years and put
that * there. Then it will remove everything from 2-3 years back. This
way I have a 2-3 year window to work for for disputes etc. This filter
will by the way take all night to run but it does work and work well.
This is by the way how you can I think remove all emails or multiple
emails from certain labels as well. I don't know how to apply that to
the script but it is an option.

On 10 Nov 2018, at 8:14, Brian Vogel wrote:

What I don't get is why you'd ever delete anything from anywhere other
than "All Mail" (the archive).   If you are archiving absolutely
everything then deleting from the inbox will never delete anything in
reality, as you've found, as what's deleted will still have presence
in the archive.  Anything in Gmail that has two labels on it isn't
going away.  Only stuff with the trash label that's been assigned
that label for 30 days will be deleted "naturally."

You can, of course, do manual purges, too, but I don't understand why
one would do that other than from All Mail.

I don't generally archive anything.  If it's to be kept it sits in
Inbox and I can easily find it via a search.  But, to each his or her
own.
--

Brian *-* Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763

*The terrible state of public education has paid huge dividends in
ignorance.  Huge.  We now have a country that can be told blatant
lies — easily checkable, blatant lies — and I’m not talking
about the covert workings of the CIA. When we have a terrorist attack,
on September 11, 2001 with 19 men — 15 of them are Saudis — and
five minutes later the whole country thinks they’re from Iraq —
how can you have faith in the public? This is an easily checkable
fact. The whole country is like the O.J. Simpson jurors.*

      ~ Fran Lebowitz in Ruminator Magazine interview with
Susannah McNeely (Aug/Sept 2005)

hi shaun.
can you please test for me working github with old engine firefox or waterfox?
for example: when i open
https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/milestone/42
and i press h many times to go to the position that nvda says:
nvda 2018.4
and go down until nvda says:
77 closed and press enter on it, nothing happen!
it means that i cant follow nvda progress, new features, changes and
bug fixes anymore on github!
also, when i sign in to my account and wish to edit my written
comments, i cant edit them and editing does not work for me.
whenever i open github, nvda says that the version of my firefox is
not up to date and github does not support older versions of firefox
anymore!
i did not have such problems last week.

On 11/15/18, Hope Williamson via Groups.Io <isepic=lavabit.com@groups.io> wrote:

Unfortunately, Waterfox will be based on ESR releases so it will get
Quantum at some point.
https://blog.waterfoxproject.org/waterfox-its-legacy-and-looking-to-the-future

    I really do like Waterfox. However, I don't want the Quantum stuff
because every time I've attempted to use it, it seems slower and more
unstable than what Firefox used to be without Quantum.

Unfortunately, Waterfox will be based on ESR releases so it will get Quantum at some point. https://blog.waterfoxproject.org/waterfox-its-legacy-and-looking-to-the-future

    I really do like Waterfox. However, I don't want the Quantum stuff because every time I've attempted to use it, it seems slower and more unstable than what Firefox used to be without Quantum.




.

Unfortunately, Waterfox will be based on ESR releases so it will get
Quantum at some point.
https://blog.waterfoxproject.org/waterfox-its-legacy-and-looking-to-the-future

    I really do like Waterfox. However, I don't want the Quantum stuff
because every time I've attempted to use it, it seems slower and more
unstable than what Firefox used to be without Quantum.

Sorry, but wich one you bought?

The NVDA addon or the SAPI5 version?

Did you try to change the NVDA synth?

Rui

Às 12:46 de 14/11/2018, Kevin escreveu:

> I bought one for NVDA AND WHEN I updated MVDA eloquence voice went away,

> NVDA went back to espeech!

>

> E-mail is golden!!!

> Kevin Lee

>

> *From: *Rui Fontes <mailto:rui.fontes@...>

> *Sent: *Wednesday, November 14, 2018 3:13 AM

> *To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

> *Subject: *Re: [nvda] Eloquence with Lates Version of NVDA

>

> Yes, it is a CodeFactory product sold by my company...

>

> Rui Fontes

>

> Tiflotecnia, Lda.

>

> Às 02:28 de 14/11/2018, Kevin escreveu:

>

>  > That’s with code factory correct?  You have to buy it correct?

>

>  >

>

>  > E-mail is golden!!!

>

>  > Kevin Lee

>

>  >

>

>  > *From: *Rui Fontes <mailto:rui.fontes@...>

>

>  > *Sent: *Tuesday, November 13, 2018 7:24 AM

>

>  > *To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

>

>  > *Subject: *Re: [nvda] Eloquence with Lates Version of NVDA

>

>  >

>

>  > Sorry, let me rephrase that...

>

>  >

>

>  > Eloquence have a SAPI5 version, and as that, it is available for all

>

>  >

>

>  > applications...

>

>  >

>

>  > It does not come with any flavour of Windows operative system...

>

>  >

>

>  > Rui Fontes

>

>  >

>

>  > Às 14:59 de 13/11/2018, kelby carlson escreveu:

>

>  >

>

>  >  > I had no idea Eloquence had become a Windows Voice. I assumed SAPI

>

>  >

>

>  >  > version 4 would be the old voices (i.e. Mary, Sam, Mike, from long

> ago.)

>

>  >

>

>  >  > This is very helpful so thank you.

>

>  >

>

>  >  >

>

>  >

>

>  >

>

>