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Re: rh-voice

Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Josh,


I downloaded the NVDA add on and some English SAPI 5 VOICES.  I installed everything and was flagged by Windows Defender.  I chose run anyway and everything seemed to go OK.  However, the RH synthesizer nor any of the SAPI 5 voices show up anywhere under synthesizers or voices choices under Microsoft SAPI 5 synthesizer.  I am running Windows 10 latest update.  Is this system compatible with Windows 10?


What could be going wrong?


On 11/17/2018 12:41 PM, Josh Kennedy wrote:
yes the addon is compatible. you have to download the addon, install it, download a voice or two that you want, install it, restart NVDA and it will work. but honestly the sapi5 rh-voice has the best sound, and the android one works good also. 
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This week my computer became really unresponsive to key presses. It
was right after a Windows 10 update, so I was blaming some sort of
incompatibility between W10 & NVDA. I was going to roll it back, but
for some reason I decided to do another test first & plugged a USB
keyboard into my laptop. Guess what? All the unresponsiveness
disappeared! Just goes to show sometimes that events surrounding
things like unresponsiveness, ie, such as an update, may be purely
coincidental & merely serve to throw a smoke screen. Troubleshooting
can be a real b-word, & I guess it's just best to keep all the
possibilities in mind. This was addressed to no one in particular.
Just sharing an experience on a Saturday in hopes it might help
someone on their troubleshooting journey.

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I notice there is yet another new version which seems to have removed that inaccessible new feature that did not really do very much but annoy people, so it looks like its back as it was again now. The 9 on the end of the version number is what to go for. it also did not attempt to install Avast either.

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Re: RH Voice

Angela Delicata
 

Hi,

I am curious, I could not follow the whole thread and bag pardon.

Where can I download it? Is there an Italian version also? Is there an android version too?

Or some one could send a sample in mp3 format so we could just ear the voice?


Thank you.

Angela from Italy



Il 17/11/2018 18:09, Jo Fullerton ha scritto:

My colleague has just tried it out and he was very impressed with it. I could ask him if he would email you if you like. 

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On 17 Nov 2018, at 16:39, Roger Stewart <paganus2@...> wrote:

I just checked the add ons site for the RH Voice add on for nvda and I
don't seem to find it.  Is it under development and not generally
available yet?  I remember trying one called RH voice a couple years
back and it sounded very weird and then I found out it is only made to
speak the Russian language.  This must be a different one altogether.


Roger





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Re: RH Voice

Gene
 

It appears to be the same one but it now can speak many languages.  I strongly suspect that the original message made the voices appear much bettter than they are.  I may try one of the English voices but I'm skeptical of their quality after reading about them on the web site. 
 
Gene

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Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2018 10:36 AM
Subject: [nvda] RH Voice

I just checked the add ons site for the RH Voice add on for nvda and I
don't seem to find it.  Is it under development and not generally
available yet?  I remember trying one called RH voice a couple years
back and it sounded very weird and then I found out it is only made to
speak the Russian language.  This must be a different one altogether.


Roger





Re: Reading PDFs in Adobe Acrobat Reader DC

 
Edited

I tried the PDF reader built into Google Chrome. It worked, but, for example, I typed into the box to go to a page and press enter and attempt to read, NVDA doesn't seem to recognize that I have changed the page, but on screen I can clearly see that the page has change.
Is the problem I described in my first post a NVDA issue? Or an issue with recent versions of Adobe Acrobat. I remember in the past even untagged PDFs use to work properly.
Update: I tried downgrading to Acrobat Reader DC 2018 and everything seems to work properly now. How can I prevent Reader DC from automatically updating to the 2019 version?


Re: rh-voice

Josh Kennedy <joshknnd1982@...>
 

rh-voice is still being worked on. it was last updated in july 2018. 


Re: rh-voice

Josh Kennedy <joshknnd1982@...>
 

yes the addon is compatible. you have to download the addon, install it, download a voice or two that you want, install it, restart NVDA and it will work. but honestly the sapi5 rh-voice has the best sound, and the android one works good also. 


Re: rh-voice

Josh Kennedy <joshknnd1982@...>
 

the sapi5 rh-voice has the best sound quality. you have to install the sapi5 rh-voice, then install the language pack, and then install the voice you want. then restart NVDA and it should work fine. 


Re: rh-voice

Josh Kennedy <joshknnd1982@...>
 

yes, rh-voice is free of charge. it is on github and it is also open source. and if possible i would love to be able to make my own voices for it, if the voice-building and recording process is easy enough and doesn't require lots of programming knowledge. 

Josh


Re: rh-voice

Casey <cwollner@...>
 

Hi is there A way that someone can provide us A recording of this new voice package/

So those of us who maybe on the fence of using it or not.

Can if an idea what is sounds like and just how responsive it is.

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Subject: Re: [nvda] rh-voice


hi,


I installed the nvda addons RH voice but it does not load

an error occurs when opening.

Robert Mendoza

On 11/17/2018 4:29 AM, Josh Kennedy wrote:

Hi,

I found a new voice for NVDA. It’s called rh-voice. Also discovered
the sapi5 version has the best sound. It’s fast and responsive like
Espeak. The bdl voice is my favorite of all of them. Best part is
this, somehow, you can make your own voices for it and even make new
languages, although making new voices for an existing language is
easiest. So if I can get the required sentences that have to be
recorded, I could have the keynote gold demo voice read all those
sentences into wave files and perhaps the author could build a voice
based on recordings of the keynote gold tts. I’m not sure if he uses
Linux to make the voices. And if he does, if the voice building
process is even accessible with the orca Linux screen reader. It won’t
be a 100% perfect keynote gold voice, but it’ll be very very close to
the original sounding keynote gold tts. And it’ll be a sapi5 keynote
gold voice and it could even work on android since rh-voice is also a
free android tts, works great with talkback. The website is:

https://github.com/Olga-Yakovleva/RHVoice/wiki

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Re: RH Voice

Jo Fullerton
 

Ah no, looks like it was Josh Kennedy that tried it out. Not my colleague. Just saw Josh’s post. 

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On 17 Nov 2018, at 16:39, Roger Stewart <paganus2@...> wrote:

I just checked the add ons site for the RH Voice add on for nvda and I
don't seem to find it.  Is it under development and not generally
available yet?  I remember trying one called RH voice a couple years
back and it sounded very weird and then I found out it is only made to
speak the Russian language.  This must be a different one altogether.


Roger





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Re: RH Voice

Jo Fullerton
 

My colleague has just tried it out and he was very impressed with it. I could ask him if he would email you if you like. 

Jo

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On 17 Nov 2018, at 16:39, Roger Stewart <paganus2@...> wrote:

I just checked the add ons site for the RH Voice add on for nvda and I
don't seem to find it.  Is it under development and not generally
available yet?  I remember trying one called RH voice a couple years
back and it sounded very weird and then I found out it is only made to
speak the Russian language.  This must be a different one altogether.


Roger





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RH Voice

Roger Stewart
 

I just checked the add ons site for the RH Voice add on for nvda and I don't seem to find it.  Is it under development and not generally available yet?  I remember trying one called RH voice a couple years back and it sounded very weird and then I found out it is only made to speak the Russian language.  This must be a different one altogether.


Roger


Re: Reading PDFs in Adobe Acrobat Reader DC

Jason White
 

Try the PDF reader that is built into Google Chrome, or use ABBYY FineReader to convert the PDF files to another format (HTML or Microsoft Word).

 

Due to the above two solutions, I haven’t used Adobe Reader for quite a while.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Supanut Leepaisomboon
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Subject: Re: [nvda] Reading PDFs in Adobe Acrobat Reader DC

 

I tried a few more untagged PDF files and yep the same issue that I explained in my first post still occurs.
However this seems to only occur with untagged PDFs, I.E the ones that once opened presents a dialog to choose the reading order and such.
Since I have to deal with these PDFs on a regular bases for my university, is there a way to properly read these PDFs with NVDA?


Re: Reading PDFs in Adobe Acrobat Reader DC

 

I tried a few more untagged PDF files and yep the same issue that I explained in my first post still occurs.
However this seems to only occur with untagged PDFs, I.E the ones that once opened presents a dialog to choose the reading order and such.
Since I have to deal with these PDFs on a regular bases for my university, is there a way to properly read these PDFs with NVDA?


Re: rh-voice

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Yes you need the Sappi 5 version.
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From: "Robert Mendoza" <lowvisiontek@gmail.com>
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Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2018 3:19 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] rh-voice


hi,


I installed the nvda addons RH voice but it does not load

an error occurs when opening.

Robert Mendoza

On 11/17/2018 4:29 AM, Josh Kennedy wrote:

Hi,

I found a new voice for NVDA. It’s called rh-voice. Also discovered
the sapi5 version has the best sound. It’s fast and responsive like
Espeak. The bdl voice is my favorite of all of them. Best part is
this, somehow, you can make your own voices for it and even make new
languages, although making new voices for an existing language is
easiest. So if I can get the required sentences that have to be
recorded, I could have the keynote gold demo voice read all those
sentences into wave files and perhaps the author could build a voice
based on recordings of the keynote gold tts. I’m not sure if he uses
Linux to make the voices. And if he does, if the voice building
process is even accessible with the orca Linux screen reader. It won’t
be a 100% perfect keynote gold voice, but it’ll be very very close to
the original sounding keynote gold tts. And it’ll be a sapi5 keynote
gold voice and it could even work on android since rh-voice is also a
free android tts, works great with talkback. The website is:

https://github.com/Olga-Yakovleva/RHVoice/wiki

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Re: rh-voice

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I have to also say that I have recently made my Quincy Espeak voice work on sappi 5 and use it in Jaws, its not quite so expressive though, probably due to the way sappi 5 handles voice intonation, and you are probably seeing the same in the voice in this thread.
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Sent: Friday, November 16, 2018 11:54 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] rh-voice


There not bad. They're a little more monotone, that is, they're not
robotic but I don't think they do as many tone changes for punctuation,
they do tone changes mostly at the ends of sentences, rather than in the
middle. I don't think they can do pitch changes for capitalization. The
rate can only go so high, probably comparable to the fastest default
one-core rate that you can get from NVDA if you haven't changed the
one-core voice speed to make it go faster. I don't know that I'd use it
as my primary synthesizer, but that having been said, they're pretty
usable. If the addons could be updated they'd make a pretty good
portable voice for older systems I think. They're worth trying anyway,
you can always uninstall it if you don't like it.


On 11/16/2018 17:47, Don H wrote:
How do these voices compare to Microsoft one core?

On 11/16/2018 5:31 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
On Fri, Nov 16, 2018 at 05:51 PM, John Isige wrote:

It's possible the addon isn't compatible with the latest NVDA.

Given the age of the project and its major updates this is almost
certain to be true. Lots of stuff being worked on currently, but
it's doubtful the add-on is one of them.

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Re: rh-voice

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I'm sure if somebody offered to work on the add on, they would be delighted.
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On Fri, Nov 16, 2018 at 05:51 PM, John Isige wrote:


It's possible the addon isn't compatible with the latest NVDA.
Given the age of the project and its major updates this is almost certain to be true. Lots of stuff being worked on currently, but it's doubtful the add-on is one of them.

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Re: Reading PDFs in Adobe Acrobat Reader DC

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Are you sure its nvda or the reader? IE do files that used to work still do so?
If yes then its more likely to be untagged pdf syndrome and not a lot the reader or the screenreader can do once the file is made, sadly.
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Sent: Friday, November 16, 2018 8:04 PM
Subject: [nvda] Reading PDFs in Adobe Acrobat Reader DC


Hi all,
Recently, I noticed that, in a number of PDFs, when trying to have NVDA read them in Adobe Acrobat Reader DC, NVDA seems to treat all the texts as if they are all on the same paragraph. Basically, I can't use ctrl+up/down to move between paragraphs; NVDA just treats everything as if it was a single paragraph.
Does anyone know how to fix this issue? Or should I get a new PDF reader?