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Re: A random question, related to screen readers in general

Gene
 

A Google Search for something like percent of screen-reader users use Braille produced this as one result:
If you search for the word Braille and repeat the search until you get to the relevant content, you will find information about the number of users of different screen-readers who use Braille output.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2018 4:29 PM
Subject: [nvda] A random question, related to screen readers in general

Hello all


Does anyone know how I might find out what percentage of screen reader
users use braille displays?


Apologies for the random nature of this question,


--Sile





A random question, related to screen readers in general

Sile
 

Hello all


Does anyone know how I might find out what percentage of screen reader users use braille displays?


Apologies for the random nature of this question,


--Sile


Re: accessible drive partition resizing

Kevin Cussick
 

I tried to download the free version of this software and get this text below.

Not Found
The requested URL /PGFreeSetup.exe was not found on this server.

On 25/11/2018 10:44, seb naudet wrote:
Hello,
partitionGuru is fully accessible and has a free version
https://www.partitionguru.com/download.php
seb
Le 25/11/2018 à 03:12, Richard Kuzma via Groups.Io a écrit :
Hello everyone,
Does anyone know of any partition management software that allows for resizing of a drive partition without destroying the data?
I use image for windows to image my hard drive and that works great for that but does not have an option for resizing the partition.
Thanks guys,
Rich


Re: some unsolved problems about NVDA

Chris
 

Theres actually a add-on for visual studio

https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/visualStudio.en.html

 

maybe that will help you 😃

 

 

 

From: Raha Tehrani
Sent: 25 November 2018 16:38
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] some unsolved problems about NVDA

 

Dear all.

as you all know, NVDA 2018.4 is on the way. at the moment, the

developers' version is available to check for probable problems.

there's a problem which I have seen with different versions of NVDA.

it won't say anything in Visual Basic in Microsoft visual studio. I

have tried it on Microsoft visual studio 2010. it's fine with the

design area. but it keeps being completely silent while the text

editor area is on the foreground. I have no account on Github. but if

you have one, please let them know about this very significant

problem, so that it can be fixed in the next release. it's kind of

important. because you can't simply edit what you write within the

text-editing environment. as a result, programming gets difficult on

visual basic in microsoft visual studio 2010, using NVDA. please do

tell the NVAccess team about this major problem. note: this is not the

case with JAWS. it's fine with VB in MS Visual Studio 2010. you can

easily move with design and text-editing area with jaws. therefore,

you can easily edit what you've written in the text editor

environment.

 

let's keep in mind, this is not the only case.

NVDA crashes as you let it get updated out of addon updator but

mannually restart it.

as you know, while using addon updater, it lets you know when there

are addons to update, after installing, NVDA asks you to let it

restart. if you choose yes, NVDA will restart, but after rebooting,

you will see a couple of NVDAs on the system tray. if you press enter

on one of them it will disappear. if you say no, and then you will

mannually exit and reload NVDA, it will crash after a few seconds, and

won't reload unless you sign out and sign in again.

I should mention that all these cases have taken place in windows 10

18.9 64 bit latest update.

thanks again.

take care.

 

 

 


Re: help items missing

Cearbhall O'Meadhra
 

Brian,

Logically, I would have agreed with you. But, I did remove NVDA completely and then installed a fresh download of the whole NVDA package, installed it and still the three files are missing!


Listed but failing to open (presumed Missing!):
* NVDA User Guide
* Commands quick Reference
* What's New

Present and functioning:
* NVDA Web Site
* Licence
* Contributors
* Welcome Dialog
* Check for Update
* About


Could someone tell me what the program file names for the three missing items are? I could then check the NVDA folder and see if they are actually present.

All the best,

Cearbhall

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Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2018 10:13 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] help items missing

Have you tried a reinstall but keeping the settings? If its just files that are missing and you know they were there in the first place, they have to be in the installer, surely?
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Cearbhall O'Meadhra" <cearbhall.omeadhra@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2018 10:48 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] help items missing


Hi,



I was going to investigate the query on using the User manual when I
discovered that the User Manual command reference and what’s new items are
missing from my NVDA menu!

All the other items are present in the help menu.

I am using NVDA 2018.3.2 in Windows 10.



Any suggestions as to how to recover?



All the best,



Cearbhall



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some unsolved problems about NVDA

Raha Tehrani
 

Dear all.
as you all know, NVDA 2018.4 is on the way. at the moment, the
developers' version is available to check for probable problems.
there's a problem which I have seen with different versions of NVDA.
it won't say anything in Visual Basic in Microsoft visual studio. I
have tried it on Microsoft visual studio 2010. it's fine with the
design area. but it keeps being completely silent while the text
editor area is on the foreground. I have no account on Github. but if
you have one, please let them know about this very significant
problem, so that it can be fixed in the next release. it's kind of
important. because you can't simply edit what you write within the
text-editing environment. as a result, programming gets difficult on
visual basic in microsoft visual studio 2010, using NVDA. please do
tell the NVAccess team about this major problem. note: this is not the
case with JAWS. it's fine with VB in MS Visual Studio 2010. you can
easily move with design and text-editing area with jaws. therefore,
you can easily edit what you've written in the text editor
environment.

let's keep in mind, this is not the only case.
NVDA crashes as you let it get updated out of addon updator but
mannually restart it.
as you know, while using addon updater, it lets you know when there
are addons to update, after installing, NVDA asks you to let it
restart. if you choose yes, NVDA will restart, but after rebooting,
you will see a couple of NVDAs on the system tray. if you press enter
on one of them it will disappear. if you say no, and then you will
mannually exit and reload NVDA, it will crash after a few seconds, and
won't reload unless you sign out and sign in again.
I should mention that all these cases have taken place in windows 10
18.9 64 bit latest update.
thanks again.
take care.


Re: accessible drive partition resizing

 

On Sun, Nov 25, 2018 at 05:44 AM, seb naudet wrote:
partitionGuru
Now renamed to DiskGenius and have a new site:  https://www.diskgenius.com/editions.php

They do have a free edition.
 
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          ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back

 

 


Re: SPL and Windows 10 App Essentials emergency patches #addonrelease

 

Hi,

I understand, but please don’t hijack a thread to remind us of that message please.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Doc Wright godfearer
Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2018 4:27 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] SPL and Windows 10 App Essentials emergency patches #AddonRelease

 

I posted last week that while doing a remote we were in contact with Microsoft disability. When we went through the steps to remote him in NVDEA stuck in the dialog where you accept or decline. I wound up having to turn on narrator to do it.

----- Original Message -----

From: Joseph Lee

Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2018 9:49 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] SPL and Windows 10 App Essentials emergency patches #AddonRelease

 

Hi,

Eh?

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Doc Wright godfearer
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2018 2:51 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] SPL and Windows 10 App Essentials emergency patches #AddonRelease

 

did you see my post speaking on the hiccup we had while working with Microsoft disability?

----- Original Message -----

From: Joseph Lee

Sent: Friday, November 23, 2018 12:22 PM

Subject: [nvda] SPL and Windows 10 App Essentials emergency patches #AddonRelease

 

Hi all,

 

Important notice for users of StationPlaylist Studio and Windows 10 App Essentials add-ons: originally, I planned to release version 18.12 next week that’ll ship with compatibility flags with future NVDA releases. However, given the speed of development of internal changes to NVDA that deals with compatibility flags, I’m releasing emergency compatibility patches for these add-ons as follows:

 

  • StationPlaylist Studio: version 18.11.2A for stable, 18.09.5A-LTS for long-term channel subscribers
  • Windows 10 App Essentials: 18.11.2A stable

 

These emergency patches are designed specifically for people using NVDA alpha snapshots who might be using stable add-on releases, and you can check for updates in about an hour from now. Note that for those using development versions of these add-ons, the needed compatibility flags are already present, so no need to worry.

 

Special note for SPL Studio long-term channel users: it turns out version 18.09.5-LTS was never released (it shows up as released but you couldn’t download the installer). I’ll be fixing this as part of today’s release.

 

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: Issues using Flash Based Voicemail Website

Gene
 

I think removing Flash is an unnecessary way to deal with the question.  Just disable it so you can enable it if needed again. 
 
Also, using No Script, I suspect, is as or more important for security than whether you have Flash running, if you keep Flash updated.  I don't know enough about this to know if this is the best way to use it, but I have noscript running and I have top level sites allowed.  I believe that allows the actual site you open to run scripts and a small number of approved sites but I haven't looked into it.  I may do so.  I just started using No Script about a week ago and I haven't learned a lot about it.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2018 3:59 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Issues using Flash Based Voicemail Website

Maybe they do, but now I've actually removed it from one machine completely,
some of the sites that used to complain they needed flash seem to work
bettter in Firefox. I suspect the sites configure to whatever the user has
loaded or not.
 Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2018 1:40 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Issues using Flash Based Voicemail Website


A lot of sites still use Fllash for playing audio and I imagine many sites
still have Flash interfaces for other things.

Gene
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Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2018 4:13 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Issues using Flash Based Voicemail Website


No but according to Adobe, Flash is soon to be discontinued. does this site
not offer an html 5 version of its interface?
 Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: <tim@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, November 23, 2018 11:20 PM
Subject: [nvda] Issues using Flash Based Voicemail Website


I'm working with a volunteer who is blind to access an online voicemail
system through my.jive.com. The website uses flash software and we're able
to access the names of the voicemails using NVDA, but we're not able to
click on the links to listen to them.

We're using a HP Pavilion Notebook PC with Windows 10 Home Version 1803.

Does anyone have experience with my.jive.com through Jive Communications?
Has anyone resolved issues when issue flash on a website?

Thanks for your help!
Tim













Re: SPL and Windows 10 App Essentials emergency patches #addonrelease

Robert Doc Wright godfearer
 

I posted last week that while doing a remote we were in contact with Microsoft disability. When we went through the steps to remote him in NVDEA stuck in the dialog where you accept or decline. I wound up having to turn on narrator to do it.

----- Original Message -----
From: Joseph Lee
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2018 9:49 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] SPL and Windows 10 App Essentials emergency patches #AddonRelease

Hi,

Eh?

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Doc Wright godfearer
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2018 2:51 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] SPL and Windows 10 App Essentials emergency patches #AddonRelease

 

did you see my post speaking on the hiccup we had while working with Microsoft disability?

----- Original Message -----

From: Joseph Lee

Sent: Friday, November 23, 2018 12:22 PM

Subject: [nvda] SPL and Windows 10 App Essentials emergency patches #AddonRelease

 

Hi all,

 

Important notice for users of StationPlaylist Studio and Windows 10 App Essentials add-ons: originally, I planned to release version 18.12 next week that’ll ship with compatibility flags with future NVDA releases. However, given the speed of development of internal changes to NVDA that deals with compatibility flags, I’m releasing emergency compatibility patches for these add-ons as follows:

 

  • StationPlaylist Studio: version 18.11.2A for stable, 18.09.5A-LTS for long-term channel subscribers
  • Windows 10 App Essentials: 18.11.2A stable

 

These emergency patches are designed specifically for people using NVDA alpha snapshots who might be using stable add-on releases, and you can check for updates in about an hour from now. Note that for those using development versions of these add-ons, the needed compatibility flags are already present, so no need to worry.

 

Special note for SPL Studio long-term channel users: it turns out version 18.09.5-LTS was never released (it shows up as released but you couldn’t download the installer). I’ll be fixing this as part of today’s release.

 

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: accessible drive partition resizing

seb naudet
 

    Hello,

partitionGuru is fully accessible and has a free version

https://www.partitionguru.com/download.php


    seb



Le 25/11/2018 à 03:12, Richard Kuzma via Groups.Io a écrit :

Hello everyone,

Does anyone know of any partition management software that allows for resizing of a drive partition without destroying the data?

I use image for windows to image my hard drive and that works great for that but does not have an option for resizing the partition.

Thanks guys,

Rich

 


Re: help items missing

Brian's Mail list account
 

Have you tried a reinstall but keeping the settings? If its just files that are missing and you know they were there in the first place, they have to be in the installer, surely?
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Cearbhall O'Meadhra" <cearbhall.omeadhra@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2018 10:48 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] help items missing


Hi,



I was going to investigate the query on using the User manual when I discovered that the User Manual command reference and what’s new items are missing from my NVDA menu!

All the other items are present in the help menu.

I am using NVDA 2018.3.2 in Windows 10.



Any suggestions as to how to recover?



All the best,



Cearbhall



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Re: Nvda beta

Brian's Mail list account
 

Yes I think we all get that in certain edit fields. Its not actually a destructive error but on betas the errors are on by default, not so on the release version. I suspect that if you, for example ran an earlier snapshot or even one of the alpha snaps, the same thing is going to occur.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Don H" <lmddh50@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2018 6:47 PM
Subject: [nvda] Nvda beta


Running the latest NVDA beta on my win 10 1809 laptop.
When I go to youtube and try to type in a search I get the wonderful error ding at each key press. It seems to being entering the characters correctly but get the error ding. Not sure what is causing this problem



Re: Dropbox and nvda again

Brian's Mail list account
 

Well, We have two different machines one on 7 home the other on the main version. Both these cannot read the windows and dialogues of dropbox, though it can read the up to date, but I have asked a sighted person to look at the remote machine and they can see the preferences the share dialogue the log in dialogue which do not work on either for me.
My main issue is then, what can have caused the issue with nvda and Jaws?
My guess is that its a windows DLL which has become deregistered or for changed at some point in the past, but on both machines? That does seem awfully odd.
The one common things was that somebody inadvertently put Avast on them both some months ago, and I had to run avastclear to get rid of it. It was interfering with most stuff.
So if anyone knows which dll is implicated in not being able to read the window types these dropbox bits use, then I'm all ears and will be happy to try putting a pristine copy back.as I said before, when I did an sfc and put the stuff back it did not fix it and indeed screwed up all the email links which meant reinstalling the email clients again. Such is life in Windows I guess.


For reasons of software compatibility I cannot go windows 10 on these machines as an audio editing package which is no longer developed is in use.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Ron Canazzi" <aa2vm@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2018 5:23 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Dropbox and nvda again


Hi Group,


I also have the same results as Clare with my Windows 10 18.09 system. I haven't used the Dropbox add on for years and I have no issues. I wonder if the report dynamic changes and/or tool tips reporting under NVDA settings is the issue for some people.


On 11/24/2018 9:15 AM, Clare Page wrote:
Hi!
Dropbox starts when Windows starts on my Windows 7 computer, and I no longer use the Dropbox add-on, but I still can read the preferences and get information about uploads and downloads, as I mentioned below. I don't have to open Dropbox from the desktop to get all this information, although seeing that Dropbox is up to date by reading the system tray icon is one indication that my computer is connected to the Internet and ready to use after I start it.
Bye for now!
From Clare
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gerardo Corripio
Sent: samedi 24 novembre 2018 14:19
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Dropbox and nvda again

Do you have the Dropbox AddOn for NVDA activated? With Windows10 Dropbox tells me when files are received here at my end. However what I’m finding is even though Dropbox is set to start up upon Windows, I need to open the dropbox folder for Dropbox to open up and start working. I went into MsConfig, where everything seems to be alright.

Gera
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El 24 nov 2018, a la(s) 5:35 a. m., Clare Page <clare.page@...> escribió:

Hi!
It's interesting that you have this acdcessibility problem with Dropbox,
Brian, as I am still on Windows 7 here, and I can still read the Dropbox
preferences, keep track of uploads and downloads in the system tray, and I
still get help balloons to tell me a download has finished: I don't get told
that an upload is finished, but I know it has when the Dropbox icon in the
system tray includes the words "up to date".
Since you can't read the preferences yourself, I think you should get
sighted help to go through the dialogues there to see if changing some of
the settings will bring more accessibility back for you. I hope this helps!
Bye for now!
From Clare

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Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: samedi 24 novembre 2018 12:07
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Dropbox and nvda again

Hi I'm not quite sure when this started to occur, but somewhere along the
line Dropbox does not seem to push out any kind of alert when files are
coming in or indeed indicate when they are being uploaded on the tray icon.
Are these preferenc choices which have been changed recently from the
default of on it used to have? Obviously since I cannot use the preferences
box, the share dialogue or other similar windows on windows 7 it seems, I
cannot check but if it can be toggled on again, then I'll get a sighted
person in to do it.
Its rather irritating as it seems the person using it at our studio does
not know when its completed uploading and I do not know when its stopped
coming in at my end.
Brian

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Re: Issues using Flash Based Voicemail Website

Brian's Mail list account
 

Maybe they do, but now I've actually removed it from one machine completely, some of the sites that used to complain they needed flash seem to work bettter in Firefox. I suspect the sites configure to whatever the user has loaded or not.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2018 1:40 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Issues using Flash Based Voicemail Website


A lot of sites still use Fllash for playing audio and I imagine many sites still have Flash interfaces for other things.

Gene
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From: Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2018 4:13 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Issues using Flash Based Voicemail Website


No but according to Adobe, Flash is soon to be discontinued. does this site
not offer an html 5 version of its interface?
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: <tim@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, November 23, 2018 11:20 PM
Subject: [nvda] Issues using Flash Based Voicemail Website


I'm working with a volunteer who is blind to access an online voicemail
system through my.jive.com. The website uses flash software and we're able
to access the names of the voicemails using NVDA, but we're not able to
click on the links to listen to them.

We're using a HP Pavilion Notebook PC with Windows 10 Home Version 1803.

Does anyone have experience with my.jive.com through Jive Communications?
Has anyone resolved issues when issue flash on a website?

Thanks for your help!
Tim


Re: accessible drive partition resizing

 

Richard,

          There are a number of tools that allow you to extend existing partitions into unallocated space, or shrink partitions not anywhere near to full to allow unused space to be set up as new partitions (or left unallocated).  What I can't say is which are accessible, or how accessible if only partially accessible.  The following are free, so you can afford to play with them:

               MiniTool Partition Wizard Version 10.3  

                         See also for details:  https://www.partitionwizard.com/help/resize-partition.html and https://www.partitionwizard.com/help/delete-partition.html

               EaseUS Partition Master Free Version 12.10

               
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Re: accessible drive partition resizing

Isaac <bigikemusic@...>
 

You can use microsoft diskpart for just resizing, but if you want to move partitions around on a disk you'll have to use another tool.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2018 8:12 PM
Subject: [nvda] accessible drive partition resizing

Hello everyone,

Does anyone know of any partition management software that allows for resizing of a drive partition without destroying the data?

I use image for windows to image my hard drive and that works great for that but does not have an option for resizing the partition.

Thanks guys,

Rich

 


accessible drive partition resizing

Richard Kuzma
 

Hello everyone,

Does anyone know of any partition management software that allows for resizing of a drive partition without destroying the data?

I use image for windows to image my hard drive and that works great for that but does not have an option for resizing the partition.

Thanks guys,

Rich

 


Re: Need help with help.

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi Gene


Use screen layout does not work in microsoft edge here I am using windows 10 version 1809 but does on other browsers if needed. I always have mine turned off.


The other way i would do it is either the elements list which works in the edge browser or maybe use the find command. I will make edge teh default browser and see if i can get it to do the same.


Gene nz


On 25/11/2018 12:57 PM, Gene wrote:
That is a setting I recommend against using unless you are working with specific kinds of sites such as message boards.  I consider it to generally be desirable to have each link on a separate page, in other words, having use screen layout turned off.  There are all sorts of ways to get to the link such as tabbing or shift tabbing, but being on the link is not the problem.  the original message says that Max can see the text change but the screen-reader keeps reading the table of contents.  the link has been activated.  It appears that the problem is how the Edge browser works with this page.  So if that is the case, people can use my method or they can use a different browser.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2018 4:08 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Need help with help.

Hi


Try the following in the browser when in focus and you know you are in the page.


The shortcut is nvda key + letter V


It will say some thing like use screen layout off this is what you want and will put the link on the same line as the text.


There is also a settings under the browse mode settings where this can be done either checked for on or unchecked for off.


See if that  does it.


Gene nz


On 25/11/2018 6:02 AM, MAX wrote:

Hi All.

 

It appears this list is not like some others I was on briefly.  I haven’t been flamed for asking a stupid question or been told to go look it up.

 

Here is my problem.  When I select help from the NVDA menu and then user guide my browser opens and I am on the table of contents. Then I down arrow to 5 navigating with NVDA.  When I press enter or space bar nothing happens.  I have to scroll the screen and click the mouse.  But that’s not all.  I can see that the screen changes but NVDA continues reading the table of contents.  I printed out the entire user guide and put it under my CCTV reader but that takes a lot of time.  I have tried the NVDA key + numpad keys and I can move to the desk top and back to the table of contents but I haven’t figured out how to move to the page which is displayed.  This effects other sites as well but this seems like the best example.  I am using windows 10 and Microsoft edge which should be the latest versions because automatic update is turned on.  Can someone get me out of this catch 22 situation. 

 

 

73 (Regards).

 

Max K 4 O D S.

 

I've Never Lost the Wonder.

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2018 11:13 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Need help with help.

 

Hi Max,

 

Welcome to the group.  If you can describe the problem you are having clearly, you will normally get a pretty helpful response from everyone here in the group.

 

Do you have a particular question now?  You mentioned seeing what kind of response this question got but I can't see one there.

 

Regards

 

Quentin.

 

On Thu, Nov 22, 2018 at 9:35 AM MAX <max@...> wrote:

I'm new to the NVDA group.  I'll ask my question giving details when I find
what kind of reception questions such as this receive on this list.


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Re: Need help with help.

Gene
 

That is a setting I recommend against using unless you are working with specific kinds of sites such as message boards.  I consider it to generally be desirable to have each link on a separate page, in other words, having use screen layout turned off.  There are all sorts of ways to get to the link such as tabbing or shift tabbing, but being on the link is not the problem.  the original message says that Max can see the text change but the screen-reader keeps reading the table of contents.  the link has been activated.  It appears that the problem is how the Edge browser works with this page.  So if that is the case, people can use my method or they can use a different browser.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2018 4:08 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Need help with help.

Hi


Try the following in the browser when in focus and you know you are in the page.


The shortcut is nvda key + letter V


It will say some thing like use screen layout off this is what you want and will put the link on the same line as the text.


There is also a settings under the browse mode settings where this can be done either checked for on or unchecked for off.


See if that  does it.


Gene nz


On 25/11/2018 6:02 AM, MAX wrote:

Hi All.

 

It appears this list is not like some others I was on briefly.  I haven’t been flamed for asking a stupid question or been told to go look it up.

 

Here is my problem.  When I select help from the NVDA menu and then user guide my browser opens and I am on the table of contents. Then I down arrow to 5 navigating with NVDA.  When I press enter or space bar nothing happens.  I have to scroll the screen and click the mouse.  But that’s not all.  I can see that the screen changes but NVDA continues reading the table of contents.  I printed out the entire user guide and put it under my CCTV reader but that takes a lot of time.  I have tried the NVDA key + numpad keys and I can move to the desk top and back to the table of contents but I haven’t figured out how to move to the page which is displayed.  This effects other sites as well but this seems like the best example.  I am using windows 10 and Microsoft edge which should be the latest versions because automatic update is turned on.  Can someone get me out of this catch 22 situation. 

 

 

73 (Regards).

 

Max K 4 O D S.

 

I've Never Lost the Wonder.

 

Antique Electronics Site: http://www.angelfire.com/electronic/funwithtubes/

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2018 11:13 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Need help with help.

 

Hi Max,

 

Welcome to the group.  If you can describe the problem you are having clearly, you will normally get a pretty helpful response from everyone here in the group.

 

Do you have a particular question now?  You mentioned seeing what kind of response this question got but I can't see one there.

 

Regards

 

Quentin.

 

On Thu, Nov 22, 2018 at 9:35 AM MAX <max@...> wrote:

I'm new to the NVDA group.  I'll ask my question giving details when I find
what kind of reception questions such as this receive on this list.


73 (Regards).

Max.  K 4 O DS.

I've Never Lost the Wonder.

Email: max@...

Vacuum Tube  Site: http://www.angelfire.com/electronic/funwithtubes/
Transistor site: http://www.angelfire.com/planet/funwithtransistors/
Woodworking site:
http://www.angelfire.com/electronic/funwithtubes/Woodworking/wwindex.html
Music site: http://www.maxsmusicplace.com

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Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

 

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 

--
Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.