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Re: Please help me about Vocalizer

Rui Fontes
 

Hello!

It is a server problem on our side...

We are trying to solve it as soon as possible!

Thanks and best regards,

Rui Fontes
Tiflotecnia, Lda.

Às 03:23 de 26/11/2018, prem.translator@... escreveu:

Update my situation:
Things I have done until now.
1. Uninstall vocalizer driver and delete everything from %appdata%.
2. Download the driver and reinstall it.
3. At the activation, I get the following error.
"Error verifying credentials: Can not connect to Vocalizer for NVDA server. Please check if your internet connection is working."
4. I already contact IT department in my workplace regarding both errors. They don't know the address, IP or something like that of the Vocalizer for NVDA server, so they cannot do anything for now.
5. I sent an e-mail to Tiflotecnia regarding the problem.
What should I do next?
Thank you.


Re: Please help me about Vocalizer

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Well nothing, but your IT folk can surely run a trace on the IP address the licence uses to phone home and find out why its not getting through, the vendor can no doubt give you the address to give to your it folk. I'd have asked them if there had been any change over the time you were off, often the smoking gun approach can save a lot of time if they know what they are doing they can simply put an exception into a firewall for that address.
Brian

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Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 3:23 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Please help me about Vocalizer


Update my situation:

Things I have done until now.
1. Uninstall vocalizer driver and delete everything from %appdata%.
2. Download the driver and reinstall it.
3. At the activation, I get the following error.

"Error verifying credentials: Can not connect to Vocalizer for NVDA server. Please check if your internet connection is working."

4. I already contact IT department in my workplace regarding both errors. They don't know the address, IP or something like that of the Vocalizer for NVDA server, so they cannot do anything for now.
5. I sent an e-mail to Tiflotecnia regarding the problem.

What should I do next?
Thank you.


Re: A random question, related to screen readers in general

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Of course like many surveys, it is just a result of those who did the survey. I strongly suspect out of the general users the percentage is a lot lower than this.
I have many friends who are nvda users not one of them has a Braille display, and only a handful can read the code in any case.
I certainly cannot justify buying one. I can see how for many functions it would be useful if you can read it, such as programming etc, but for general use on an everyday basis by somebody just using applications, email and some shopping or social media, much of the latter now done on mobiles, then really its not needed.
Brian

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From: "James AUSTIN" <james.londonsw15@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 6:29 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] A random question, related to screen readers in general


I think that the WebAIM Screen Readers surveys have this info

TC
James
On 25 Nov 2018, at 23:26, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

A Google Search for something like percent of screen-reader users use Braille produced this as one result:
https://webaim.org/projects/screenreadersurvey7/
If you search for the word Braille and repeat the search until you get to the relevant content, you will find information about the number of users of different screen-readers who use Braille output.

Gene
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Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2018 4:29 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] A random question, related to screen readers in general

Hello all


Does anyone know how I might find out what percentage of screen reader
users use braille displays?


Apologies for the random nature of this question,


--Sile





Re: some unsolved problems about NVDA

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Could it be language specific, IE could the windows language make a difference?
I do not know what language the windows is, but I've seen all sorts of odd things happen like this.
Brian

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From: "Raha Tehrani" <raha.tehrani1362@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 6:34 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] some unsolved problems about NVDA


Hi.
I have tried the addon provided by Mohmad Soleiman.
it won't function either.
NVDA keeps quiet while in the text editing area in VB in Microsoft
Visual studio 2010
I think the NVAccess team should think about a better solution.
I'd like my friends to test it.
just go to VB in Microsoft Visual studio. then, press f7 to enter the
text editing area. then as you arrow and navigate around. NVDA won't
say anything at all.
it gets sort of dumb. to give it a try, you can write an encryption.
like: "dim a as integer"
then as you navigate and arrow on the text you've just written, you'll
hear nothing from NVDA.
take care.

On 11/25/18, Chris via Groups.Io <chrismedley@...> wrote:
Theres actually a add-on for visual studio
https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/visualStudio.en.html

maybe that will help you 😃



From: Raha Tehrani
Sent: 25 November 2018 16:38
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] some unsolved problems about NVDA

Dear all.
as you all know, NVDA 2018.4 is on the way. at the moment, the
developers' version is available to check for probable problems.
there's a problem which I have seen with different versions of NVDA.
it won't say anything in Visual Basic in Microsoft visual studio. I
have tried it on Microsoft visual studio 2010. it's fine with the
design area. but it keeps being completely silent while the text
editor area is on the foreground. I have no account on Github. but if
you have one, please let them know about this very significant
problem, so that it can be fixed in the next release. it's kind of
important. because you can't simply edit what you write within the
text-editing environment. as a result, programming gets difficult on
visual basic in microsoft visual studio 2010, using NVDA. please do
tell the NVAccess team about this major problem. note: this is not the
case with JAWS. it's fine with VB in MS Visual Studio 2010. you can
easily move with design and text-editing area with jaws. therefore,
you can easily edit what you've written in the text editor
environment.

let's keep in mind, this is not the only case.
NVDA crashes as you let it get updated out of addon updator but
mannually restart it.
as you know, while using addon updater, it lets you know when there
are addons to update, after installing, NVDA asks you to let it
restart. if you choose yes, NVDA will restart, but after rebooting,
you will see a couple of NVDAs on the system tray. if you press enter
on one of them it will disappear. if you say no, and then you will
mannually exit and reload NVDA, it will crash after a few seconds, and
won't reload unless you sign out and sign in again.
I should mention that all these cases have taken place in windows 10
18.9 64 bit latest update.
thanks again.
take care.








Re: some unsolved problems about NVDA

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Hi your restart issue. I see issues here as has been mentioned before and there is an issue on github for that though the number escapes me. It seems that only a few people experience it and it is due to windows holding on to a file while its trying to rename it and start a new log file. In Windows 7 this is fixed by pressing esc to remove the system error message and then manually restarting, though on odd occasions I have seen the two nvdas in the tray, but that is mainly due to the old version being forcibly terminated rather than gracefully exiting. In this case the new version that created the issue due to the log is what put the nvda in the tray of course.


I do not use Visual basic, but I really would encourage you to set up a github account and post your errors and problems there as for somebody else to do it who has no way to check if a fix works is a little long winded and hard to administer. Github is not that friendly but what I did is set it up to auto log in and have shortcuts for the new issue and search bits on nvdas area. I also get the email list.
One annoyance with that I find is that it flatly refuses to let me see messages I have either posted or tickets I raise on the email feed, though of course you can see them on the web site. also the person who designed the search engine on the site seems to have been away with the fairies at the time. Either that or its some kind of Mensa membership test, as normally I get results that are anything but intuitive!
Oh, I almost forgot, in their infinite wisdom they now insist on the up to date browser.
Too lazy to allow others I suspect.
Brian being controversial.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Raha Tehrani" <raha.tehrani1362@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2018 4:34 PM
Subject: [nvda] some unsolved problems about NVDA


Dear all.
as you all know, NVDA 2018.4 is on the way. at the moment, the
developers' version is available to check for probable problems.
there's a problem which I have seen with different versions of NVDA.
it won't say anything in Visual Basic in Microsoft visual studio. I
have tried it on Microsoft visual studio 2010. it's fine with the
design area. but it keeps being completely silent while the text
editor area is on the foreground. I have no account on Github. but if
you have one, please let them know about this very significant
problem, so that it can be fixed in the next release. it's kind of
important. because you can't simply edit what you write within the
text-editing environment. as a result, programming gets difficult on
visual basic in microsoft visual studio 2010, using NVDA. please do
tell the NVAccess team about this major problem. note: this is not the
case with JAWS. it's fine with VB in MS Visual Studio 2010. you can
easily move with design and text-editing area with jaws. therefore,
you can easily edit what you've written in the text editor
environment.

let's keep in mind, this is not the only case.
NVDA crashes as you let it get updated out of addon updator but
mannually restart it.
as you know, while using addon updater, it lets you know when there
are addons to update, after installing, NVDA asks you to let it
restart. if you choose yes, NVDA will restart, but after rebooting,
you will see a couple of NVDAs on the system tray. if you press enter
on one of them it will disappear. if you say no, and then you will
mannually exit and reload NVDA, it will crash after a few seconds, and
won't reload unless you sign out and sign in again.
I should mention that all these cases have taken place in windows 10
18.9 64 bit latest update.
thanks again.
take care.


Re: help items missing

Brian's Mail list account
 

Well the only way I can make such files not display is to break the browsers linking, ie the browser gets launched but the file its asked to open is either corrupted in the command or missing so you get a blank browser window.
I've tried several portable and installed copies and cannot duplicate the effect here on windows 7 , so maybe something else broke. However if you can open some html files etc then it seems odd that the problem is so selective unless its a llanguage of the files or some other obscure issue where the characters are not correct to match the file names. Have you searched for the files manually on the machine?
Brian

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To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Cc: "'Quentin Christensen'" <quentin@...>
Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2018 4:43 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] help items missing


Brian,

Logically, I would have agreed with you. But, I did remove NVDA completely and then installed a fresh download of the whole NVDA package, installed it and still the three files are missing!


Listed but failing to open (presumed Missing!):
* NVDA User Guide
* Commands quick Reference
* What's New

Present and functioning:
* NVDA Web Site
* Licence
* Contributors
* Welcome Dialog
* Check for Update
* About


Could someone tell me what the program file names for the three missing items are? I could then check the NVDA folder and see if they are actually present.

All the best,

Cearbhall

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...


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Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2018 10:13 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] help items missing

Have you tried a reinstall but keeping the settings? If its just files that are missing and you know they were there in the first place, they have to be in the installer, surely?
Brian

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From: "Cearbhall O'Meadhra" <cearbhall.omeadhra@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2018 10:48 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] help items missing


Hi,



I was going to investigate the query on using the User manual when I
discovered that the User Manual command reference and what’s new items are
missing from my NVDA menu!

All the other items are present in the help menu.

I am using NVDA 2018.3.2 in Windows 10.



Any suggestions as to how to recover?



All the best,



Cearbhall



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Re: some unsolved problems about NVDA

Raha Tehrani
 

Hi.
I have tried the addon provided by Mohmad Soleiman.
it won't function either.
NVDA keeps quiet while in the text editing area in VB in Microsoft
Visual studio 2010
I think the NVAccess team should think about a better solution.
I'd like my friends to test it.
just go to VB in Microsoft Visual studio. then, press f7 to enter the
text editing area. then as you arrow and navigate around. NVDA won't
say anything at all.
it gets sort of dumb. to give it a try, you can write an encryption.
like: "dim a as integer"
then as you navigate and arrow on the text you've just written, you'll
hear nothing from NVDA.
take care.

On 11/25/18, Chris via Groups.Io <chrismedley@...> wrote:
Theres actually a add-on for visual studio
https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/visualStudio.en.html

maybe that will help you 😃



From: Raha Tehrani
Sent: 25 November 2018 16:38
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] some unsolved problems about NVDA

Dear all.
as you all know, NVDA 2018.4 is on the way. at the moment, the
developers' version is available to check for probable problems.
there's a problem which I have seen with different versions of NVDA.
it won't say anything in Visual Basic in Microsoft visual studio. I
have tried it on Microsoft visual studio 2010. it's fine with the
design area. but it keeps being completely silent while the text
editor area is on the foreground. I have no account on Github. but if
you have one, please let them know about this very significant
problem, so that it can be fixed in the next release. it's kind of
important. because you can't simply edit what you write within the
text-editing environment. as a result, programming gets difficult on
visual basic in microsoft visual studio 2010, using NVDA. please do
tell the NVAccess team about this major problem. note: this is not the
case with JAWS. it's fine with VB in MS Visual Studio 2010. you can
easily move with design and text-editing area with jaws. therefore,
you can easily edit what you've written in the text editor
environment.

let's keep in mind, this is not the only case.
NVDA crashes as you let it get updated out of addon updator but
mannually restart it.
as you know, while using addon updater, it lets you know when there
are addons to update, after installing, NVDA asks you to let it
restart. if you choose yes, NVDA will restart, but after rebooting,
you will see a couple of NVDAs on the system tray. if you press enter
on one of them it will disappear. if you say no, and then you will
mannually exit and reload NVDA, it will crash after a few seconds, and
won't reload unless you sign out and sign in again.
I should mention that all these cases have taken place in windows 10
18.9 64 bit latest update.
thanks again.
take care.








Re: A random question, related to screen readers in general

James AUSTIN
 

I think that the WebAIM Screen Readers surveys  have this info

TC
James


On 25 Nov 2018, at 23:26, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

A Google Search for something like percent of screen-reader users use Braille produced this as one result:
If you search for the word Braille and repeat the search until you get to the relevant content, you will find information about the number of users of different screen-readers who use Braille output.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2018 4:29 PM
Subject: [nvda] A random question, related to screen readers in general

Hello all


Does anyone know how I might find out what percentage of screen reader
users use braille displays?


Apologies for the random nature of this question,


--Sile





Need Seka Braille driver for use with NVDA

Lino Morales <linomorales001@...>
 

Hi. I don’t understand German. On the NVDA user guide for this display it takes me to a German site if the driver exists on that site, can anyone who speaks German help me find the download link to the driver please? Thanks.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


ergent help needed with phonetic transcriptions

enes sarıbaş
 

hi,

So I am doing my masters in linguistics, and have a writing assignment about  a topic in morphology. The problem is, the morphemes are transcribed in the international phonetic alphabet, and bracketed and for this reason nvda will not read them correctly. Has anyone else here done linguistics, and if so how did you solve this problem? I am afraid of failing the assignment not because of a lack of efort, but because I can't access the matterial correctly. Would a braille display help with this?


NVDA 2018.4 beta 2 and Firefox

Lino Morales <linomorales001@...>
 

Wow! Just wanted to say what a vast improvement NVDA 2018.4 beta 2 and FF is. Now this is the speed I’ve been waiting for since FF 57 came out almost a year ago. Thanks NV Access. I now use both JAWS and NVDA and JAWS 2019 at the moment was the winner in responsiveness. Now that’s changed in the new beta. Hope this will carry over to 2018.4 final build.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


Re: Please help me about Vocalizer

prem.translator@...
 

The computer in my workplace is PC. Anyway, In the morning at home, I can use vocalizer (with one of the activation count) without any problem. I can use it in the PC at my office for almost two years, the problem just happen today. 


NVDA 2018.4 Beta 2: Improved Responsiveness in Mozilla Thunderbird

David Goldfield
 

Hi.

Last week I mentioned that NVDA 2018.4 beta 1 was exhibiting slower responsiveness with certain keypresses. This was noticed in Thunderbird but also in Google Chrome, two programs which I use daily. I'm happy to report that this situation has improved and the responsiveness is much better in beta 2. However, the 2018.3.2 production build still seems snappier regarding the time it takes me to press a key until I hear the output or results of that press. I most notice this when navigating by links using K or shift-K. I'm very pleased that things have improved with beta 2 but I do hope that the final 2018.4 release will behave identically to 2018.3.2. Could someone from NV Access comment on this? Were changes made to NVDA which could, potentially, increase latency with key presses?


--
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Re: Please help me about Vocalizer

David Goldfield
 

Hi. I realize that you're dealing with a machine located at work. However, if the machine is a laptop do you have permission to bring your laptop home with you? Some workplaces absolutely would not allow an employee to do this but others would permit it. If you're permitted to do so, I would take the computer home and see if you get the same message on your home network.

David Goldfield, Assistive Technology Specialist WWW.David-Goldfield.Com

On 11/25/2018 10:23 PM, prem.translator@... wrote:
Update my situation: 
 
Things I have done until now. 
1. Uninstall vocalizer driver and delete everything from %appdata%. 
2. Download the driver and reinstall it. 
3. At the activation, I get the following error. 
 
"Error verifying credentials: Can not connect to Vocalizer for NVDA server. Please check if your internet connection is working." 
 
4. I already contact IT department in my workplace regarding both errors. They don't know the address, IP or something like that of the Vocalizer for NVDA server, so they cannot do anything for now.
5. I sent an e-mail to Tiflotecnia regarding the problem. 
 
What should I do next? 
Thank you. 
 


Anyone using Chatzilla or Mushclient?

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi folks,

Is anyone using either Chatzilla, an IRC client, and MushCLIENT, a MUD client?

We've got an old issue on the issue tracker regarding NVDA not reading correctly when using flat review with either of these programs when multiple tabs are open.

If anyone is using either of these programs, can you please let me know:

- Do you have to use flat review to navigate the program?
- If multiple tabs are open, does NVDA mix up information from different tabs?

Feel free to either comment here, or the issue on the tracker is: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/2158

Regards

Quentin.
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Re: Please help me about Vocalizer

prem.translator@...
 

Update my situation: 
 
Things I have done until now. 
1. Uninstall vocalizer driver and delete everything from %appdata%. 
2. Download the driver and reinstall it. 
3. At the activation, I get the following error. 
 
"Error verifying credentials: Can not connect to Vocalizer for NVDA server. Please check if your internet connection is working." 
 
4. I already contact IT department in my workplace regarding both errors. They don't know the address, IP or something like that of the Vocalizer for NVDA server, so they cannot do anything for now.
5. I sent an e-mail to Tiflotecnia regarding the problem. 
 
What should I do next? 
Thank you. 
 


Re: Please help me about Vocalizer

David Goldfield
 

I once ran into a similar situation with one of the NVDA voices I had purchased, although I don't recall whether it was Codefactory's Nuance/Eloquence add-on or whether it was the Acapela add-on. In my case, I was on my home computer and it had nothing to do with firewall settings. In that particular instance, something had just gotten corrupted. I contacted the vendor and they were able to supply me with a valid license key which fixed the issue. If you can determine that your firewall settings are not the cause of the problem I would suggest that you contact the company which produces your add-on, which I am assuming is Codefactory, to see if a corrupted file might not be the problem.


David Goldfield, Assistive Technology Specialist WWW.David-Goldfield.Com

On 11/25/2018 9:05 PM, prem.translator@... wrote:
For now, it seems like my computer cannot connect to vocalizer's server. I'm contacting admin. 


Re: Please help me about Vocalizer

prem.translator@...
 

For now, it seems like my computer cannot connect to vocalizer's server. I'm contacting admin. 


Re: Please help me about Vocalizer

Gene
 

I wonder if your computer was used by someone else on your day off or if some sort of maintainence or downloads were done to the network during that time.  Aside from just correcting the problem by having your license reactivated or renewed, finding out if something at work caused the problem would be helpful.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2018 7:06 PM
Subject: [nvda] Please help me about Vocalizer

Dear members, 
Today, I've got the following error with the computer at my workplace. 
 
"Vocalizer License is Invalid.
 
[Content]
The Vocalizer license you are trying to use is invalid.
This might be happening due to one of two reasons:
1. The activation file is damaged.
2. The license was disabled for security reasons, due to illegal use or its data beeing compromized.
If you own a license for Nuance Vocalizer for NVDA, please contact Tiflotecnia, lda. or your local distributor, so the problem can be further investigated.
If this Nuance Vocalizer for NVDA license activation doesn't belong to you, please reframe from using this product.
Unauthorized use of this product (i.g. without a valid license) is not allowed by most international laws on software rights.
Please note that a proportion of the price of Nuance Vocalizer for NVDA is donated for continuing NVDA's development.
By sharing license activations you are working against NVDA and good and cheap accessibility for the blind across the world.
Further more, Nuance Vocalizer for NVDA is priced at the lowest value possible, to allow as many people as possible to have a comercial quality syntheciser in NVDA.
Please think twice about it.
You can remove this invalid license using  the Vocalizer Expressive menu options."
 
I have two activations, one at my workplace and one at my home. 
Such problem didn't happen so far. In the morning, before going to work, I still able to use the one at my home, and on Friday, the day before my day off, I was able to use the one at my workplace. 
 
Please help me, 
Thank you. 
 
P.S. I sent the above statement to Tiflotecnia via e-mail, and would like to ask about the problem also in the group. For now, the only synthesizer that I can use is ESpeak which doesn't support my native language. 


Re: Please help me about Vocalizer

 

Its likely that work had an update or something.

Talk to your admins, security software could have simply blocked your licence activation or the need to access the net, if it worked before the admins may have left it out of activation or simply blocked its access, I had similar issues with university and jaws, Things get reset frequently, and even though it was noted down I needed things to work things got blocked and forgotten and I had to tell the admins, they can probably lift that on their server.

On 11/26/2018 2:06 PM, prem.translator@... wrote:
Dear members,
Today, I've got the following error with the computer at my workplace.
"Vocalizer License is Invalid.
[Content]
The Vocalizer license you are trying to use is invalid.
This might be happening due to one of two reasons:
1. The activation file is damaged.
2. The license was disabled for security reasons, due to illegal use or its data beeing compromized.
If you own a license for Nuance Vocalizer for NVDA, please contact Tiflotecnia, lda. or your local distributor, so the problem can be further investigated.
If this Nuance Vocalizer for NVDA license activation doesn't belong to you, please reframe from using this product.
Unauthorized use of this product (i.g. without a valid license) is not allowed by most international laws on software rights.
Please note that a proportion of the price of Nuance Vocalizer for NVDA is donated for continuing NVDA's development.
By sharing license activations you are working against NVDA and good and cheap accessibility for the blind across the world.
Further more, Nuance Vocalizer for NVDA is priced at the lowest value possible, to allow as many people as possible to have a comercial quality syntheciser in NVDA.
Please think twice about it.
You can remove this invalid license using  the Vocalizer Expressive menu options."
I have two activations, one at my workplace and one at my home.
Such problem didn't happen so far. In the morning, before going to work, I still able to use the one at my home, and on Friday, the day before my day off, I was able to use the one at my workplace.
Please help me,
Thank you.
P.S. I sent the above statement to Tiflotecnia via e-mail, and would like to ask about the problem also in the group. For now, the only synthesizer that I can use is ESpeak which doesn't support my native language.