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Re: A couple of small annoyances.

MAX <max@...>
 

Yes, I found that out.  That’s how I was able to fix it.

 

 

73 (Regards).

 

Max K 4 O D S.

 

I've Never Lost the Wonder.

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 1:28 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] A couple of small annoyances.

 

There is a specific Windows 10 way to make programs the default.  Someone will describe it.  Some or many programs can't be made the default by using the make default option in the programs themselves but they can be using the Windows 10 method.

 

Edge does certain very specific things but in general, the browser you make default will open when expected.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 1:22 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] A couple of small annoyances.

 

I think, generally in windows 10 there are some places where Edge is used no
matter what you do, but I believe that you need to actually do as you always
could and set up default programs for certain file types, but the old way of
letting a browser do it on its own never did work in 10, at least for me, I
always had to go to the  list of  file types and  select a default program
if it was set as a Microsoft one. another reason I prefer windows 7.
 Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "MAX" <max@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 6:36 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] A couple of small annoyances.


> Source seems to be the only word of that general pronunciation that it
> messed up.  It does alright with horse.  As my last message I found that
> edge is still my default browser.  Short between the head sets.  Chrome
> has
> a big button labeled make this your default browser but Microsoft must
> have
> written an override.  How do I make chrome the default browser?
>
>
>
>
>
> 73 (Regards).
>
>
>
> Max K 4 O D S.
>
>
>
> I've Never Lost the Wonder.
>
>
>
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> <http://www.angelfire.com/electronic/funwithtubes/>
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> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
> Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 12:24 PM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] A couple of small annoyances.
>
>
>
> Screen-reader designers shouldn't make editorial decisions about what a
> screen-reader reads that a program displays.  Unless this content isn't
> seen by sighted people, Windows should read it.
>
>
>
> The ispronounciation of source is the result of the synthesizer you are
> using and not NVDA.  Are you saying it mispronounces that sound in general
> or just in the word source?
>
>
>
> Gene
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: MAX <mailto:max@...>
>
> Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 12:07 PM
>
> To: NVDA <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>
> Subject: [nvda] A couple of small annoyances.
>
>
>
> I recognize that these are small things that the developers may not think
> are important enough to fix.  Here goes anyway.  When I am opening a file
> in word I press control O and then tab twice.  Nvda says recently opened
> files.  You haven't opened any files recently.  This was not unexpected
> the
> first time I opened a file after installing nvda.  However, I use word
> every day and the message continues.  At first it was a laugh, then a
> smile
> and now it's I wish it wouldn't do that.  Another thing is the
> pronunciation   of s o u r c e.  In the united states source rhymes with
> horse not with farce as nvda pronounces it.  I have tried to fix it in the
> dictionary but when I replace the h in horse with an s it goes back to the
> rhyme with farce.   Well, I guess that's just the way it is.
>
>
> 73 (Regards).
>
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Re: Anyone using Chatzilla or Mushclient?

 

hello, i using mush however best navigation mode in this application is object navigation.


Re: A couple of small annoyances.

Gene
 

This page has a lot of synthesizers listed.  The ones you pay for usually have demos.
 
If you are interested in Eloquence, important information is not on the page so ask here.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: MAX
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 1:08 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] A couple of small annoyances.

I’m sorry for using so much bandwidth.  I think I have tamed this windows machine and have established chrome as my default browser.  The nvda help files work fine when used with chrome.  I don’t even have to move from the bullet to the text to make the link work.  I gather from the conversation that many other voice synthesizers  will work with nvda.  Is there a website that lists them.  It would be nice if they had a try before you buy option.

 

 

73 (Regards).

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 12:48 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] A couple of small annoyances.

 

I don't use Windows 10 which it appears you are.  Others can explain the procedure. 

 

As far as source is concerned, try sorce, with a c, though I doubt that will work.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: MAX

Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 12:36 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] A couple of small annoyances.

 

Source seems to be the only word of that general pronunciation that it messed up.  It does alright with horse.  As my last message I found that edge is still my default browser.  Short between the head sets.  Chrome has a big button labeled make this your default browser but Microsoft must have written an override.  How do I make chrome the default browser?

 

 

73 (Regards).

 

Max K 4 O D S.

 

I've Never Lost the Wonder.

 

Antique Electronics Site: http://www.angelfire.com/electronic/funwithtubes/

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 12:24 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] A couple of small annoyances.

 

Screen-reader designers shouldn't make editorial decisions about what a screen-reader reads that a program displays.  Unless this content isn't seen by sighted people, Windows should read it. 

 

The ispronounciation of source is the result of the synthesizer you are using and not NVDA.  Are you saying it mispronounces that sound in general or just in the word source?

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: MAX

Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 12:07 PM

To: NVDA

Subject: [nvda] A couple of small annoyances.

 

I recognize that these are small things that the developers may not think
are important enough to fix.  Here goes anyway.  When I am opening a file
in word I press control O and then tab twice.  Nvda says recently opened
files.  You haven't opened any files recently.  This was not unexpected the
first time I opened a file after installing nvda.  However, I use word
every day and the message continues.  At first it was a laugh, then a smile
and now it's I wish it wouldn't do that.  Another thing is the
pronunciation   of s o u r c e.  In the united states source rhymes with
horse not with farce as nvda pronounces it.  I have tried to fix it in the
dictionary but when I replace the h in horse with an s it goes back to the
rhyme with farce.   Well, I guess that's just the way it is.


73 (Regards).

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Re: A couple of small annoyances.

Gene
 

There is a specific Windows 10 way to make programs the default.  Someone will describe it.  Some or many programs can't be made the default by using the make default option in the programs themselves but they can be using the Windows 10 method.
 
Edge does certain very specific things but in general, the browser you make default will open when expected.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 1:22 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] A couple of small annoyances.

I think, generally in windows 10 there are some places where Edge is used no
matter what you do, but I believe that you need to actually do as you always
could and set up default programs for certain file types, but the old way of
letting a browser do it on its own never did work in 10, at least for me, I
always had to go to the  list of  file types and  select a default program
if it was set as a Microsoft one. another reason I prefer windows 7.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "MAX" <max@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 6:36 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] A couple of small annoyances.


> Source seems to be the only word of that general pronunciation that it
> messed up.  It does alright with horse.  As my last message I found that
> edge is still my default browser.  Short between the head sets.  Chrome
> has
> a big button labeled make this your default browser but Microsoft must
> have
> written an override.  How do I make chrome the default browser?
>
>
>
>
>
> 73 (Regards).
>
>
>
> Max K 4 O D S.
>
>
>
> I've Never Lost the Wonder.
>
>
>
> Antique Electronics Site:
> <http://www.angelfire.com/electronic/funwithtubes/>
> http://www.angelfire.com/electronic/funwithtubes/
>
>
>
>
>
> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
> Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 12:24 PM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] A couple of small annoyances.
>
>
>
> Screen-reader designers shouldn't make editorial decisions about what a
> screen-reader reads that a program displays.  Unless this content isn't
> seen by sighted people, Windows should read it.
>
>
>
> The ispronounciation of source is the result of the synthesizer you are
> using and not NVDA.  Are you saying it mispronounces that sound in general
> or just in the word source?
>
>
>
> Gene
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: MAX <mailto:max@...>
>
> Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 12:07 PM
>
> To: NVDA <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>
> Subject: [nvda] A couple of small annoyances.
>
>
>
> I recognize that these are small things that the developers may not think
> are important enough to fix.  Here goes anyway.  When I am opening a file
> in word I press control O and then tab twice.  Nvda says recently opened
> files.  You haven't opened any files recently.  This was not unexpected
> the
> first time I opened a file after installing nvda.  However, I use word
> every day and the message continues.  At first it was a laugh, then a
> smile
> and now it's I wish it wouldn't do that.  Another thing is the
> pronunciation   of s o u r c e.  In the united states source rhymes with
> horse not with farce as nvda pronounces it.  I have tried to fix it in the
> dictionary but when I replace the h in horse with an s it goes back to the
> rhyme with farce.   Well, I guess that's just the way it is.
>
>
> 73 (Regards).
>
> Max.  K 4 O DS.
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Re: A couple of small annoyances.

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I think, generally in windows 10 there are some places where Edge is used no matter what you do, but I believe that you need to actually do as you always could and set up default programs for certain file types, but the old way of letting a browser do it on its own never did work in 10, at least for me, I always had to go to the list of file types and select a default program if it was set as a Microsoft one. another reason I prefer windows 7.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "MAX" <max@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 6:36 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] A couple of small annoyances.


Source seems to be the only word of that general pronunciation that it
messed up. It does alright with horse. As my last message I found that
edge is still my default browser. Short between the head sets. Chrome has
a big button labeled make this your default browser but Microsoft must have
written an override. How do I make chrome the default browser?





73 (Regards).



Max K 4 O D S.



I've Never Lost the Wonder.



Antique Electronics Site:
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http://www.angelfire.com/electronic/funwithtubes/





From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 12:24 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] A couple of small annoyances.



Screen-reader designers shouldn't make editorial decisions about what a
screen-reader reads that a program displays. Unless this content isn't
seen by sighted people, Windows should read it.



The ispronounciation of source is the result of the synthesizer you are
using and not NVDA. Are you saying it mispronounces that sound in general
or just in the word source?



Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: MAX <mailto:max@...>

Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 12:07 PM

To: NVDA <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

Subject: [nvda] A couple of small annoyances.



I recognize that these are small things that the developers may not think
are important enough to fix. Here goes anyway. When I am opening a file
in word I press control O and then tab twice. Nvda says recently opened
files. You haven't opened any files recently. This was not unexpected the
first time I opened a file after installing nvda. However, I use word
every day and the message continues. At first it was a laugh, then a smile
and now it's I wish it wouldn't do that. Another thing is the
pronunciation of s o u r c e. In the united states source rhymes with
horse not with farce as nvda pronounces it. I have tried to fix it in the
dictionary but when I replace the h in horse with an s it goes back to the
rhyme with farce. Well, I guess that's just the way it is.


73 (Regards).

Max. K 4 O DS.

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Re: NVDA 2018.4 beta 2 and Firefox

Gene
 

Do you see the link if you tab when browse mode is off?  We need to determine if this is a problem with tabbing, a Windows command, or if NVDA skips the link in browse mode but not in forms mode.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 1:12 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2018.4 beta 2 and Firefox

Yes but unfortunately I've tried the others too and still find it odd. So
its obviously a link, so tab should find it whatever it is as you say, but
only k does that is how  I know it has to be a link, but apparently
sometimes an invisible link to tab.
 I hope that is clearer, or not?
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Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 6:29 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2018.4 beta 2 and Firefox


Brian,

Pressing the letter K or shift-K moves between links but it does not move
focus to other controls, such as buttons, edit fields, etc. Pressing tab or
shift-tab moves to any actionable element, such as links, buttons, edit
fields and other form controls.

David Goldfield, Assistive Technology Specialist
WWW.David-Goldfield.Com<http://WWW.David-Goldfield.Com>
On 11/26/2018 5:15 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
This may seem an odd question and I do not know who to aim it at.
What is the difference in link navigation on FF and waterfox between tab and
k?
There is  often some discrepancy on getting to the  go to basket link on
Amazon where k will work but tab will not
I just want to knoe if its..
a finger trouble at my end
B browser related
c Nvda related!
Brian

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Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 5:39 AM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA 2018.4 beta 2 and Firefox


Wow! Just wanted to say what a vast improvement NVDA 2018.4 beta 2 and FF
is. Now this is the speed I’ve been waiting for since FF 57 came out almost
a year ago. Thanks NV Access. I now use both JAWS and NVDA and JAWS 2019 at
the moment was the winner in responsiveness. Now that’s changed in the new
beta. Hope this will carry over to 2018.4 final build.

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Re: A couple of small annoyances.

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That sounds like an espeak thing, is that the synth you aare using?
As for verbosity, I tend to just shut it up with any key press.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "MAX" <max@...>
To: "NVDA" <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 6:07 PM
Subject: [nvda] A couple of small annoyances.


I recognize that these are small things that the developers may not think
are important enough to fix. Here goes anyway. When I am opening a file
in word I press control O and then tab twice. Nvda says recently opened
files. You haven't opened any files recently. This was not unexpected the
first time I opened a file after installing nvda. However, I use word
every day and the message continues. At first it was a laugh, then a smile
and now it's I wish it wouldn't do that. Another thing is the
pronunciation of s o u r c e. In the united states source rhymes with
horse not with farce as nvda pronounces it. I have tried to fix it in the
dictionary but when I replace the h in horse with an s it goes back to the
rhyme with farce. Well, I guess that's just the way it is.


73 (Regards).

Max. K 4 O DS.

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Re: ergent help needed with phonetic transcriptions

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So the concept is then, trying to put sounds into a writable form for a person who cannot see it in the first place. This sounds a bit like some kind comedy sketch from an old goon show.
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----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 6:29 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] ergent help needed with phonetic transcriptions


On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 12:44 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:


somethingn don't read well, if at all. I wish you luck in your IPA class.
And it's not really intended to be read, in the conventional sense of the word. It's the graphical representation of a sound sequence as close to "literally" as you can get it. When you "read" something in IPA you're not conventionally reading it like text but creating a sound stream of phonemes based on their IPA symbols. It's certainly nothing like reading any natural language that has a written form (sign language being one of the natural languages that has no written form, and there are others).

--

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*A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.*

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Re: NVDA 2018.4 beta 2 and Firefox

David Goldfield
 

Brian,

Could you give me the URL you're using and tell me which link is not being recognized when you press the tab key?

David Goldfield, Assistive Technology Specialist WWW.David-Goldfield.Com

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Yes but unfortunately I've tried the others too and still find it odd. So its obviously a link, so tab should find it whatever it is as you say, but only k does that is how  I know it has to be a link, but apparently sometimes an invisible link to tab.
I hope that is clearer, or not?
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Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 6:29 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2018.4 beta 2 and Firefox


Brian,

Pressing the letter K or shift-K moves between links but it does not move focus to other controls, such as buttons, edit fields, etc. Pressing tab or shift-tab moves to any actionable element, such as links, buttons, edit fields and other form controls.

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This may seem an odd question and I do not know who to aim it at.
What is the difference in link navigation on FF and waterfox between tab and k?
There is  often some discrepancy on getting to the  go to basket link on Amazon where k will work but tab will not
I just want to knoe if its..
a finger trouble at my end
B browser related
c Nvda related!
Brian

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Subject: [nvda] NVDA 2018.4 beta 2 and Firefox


Wow! Just wanted to say what a vast improvement NVDA 2018.4 beta 2 and FF is. Now this is the speed I’ve been waiting for since FF 57 came out almost a year ago. Thanks NV Access. I now use both JAWS and NVDA and JAWS 2019 at the moment was the winner in responsiveness. Now that’s changed in the new beta. Hope this will carry over to 2018.4 final build.

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Re: ergent help needed with phonetic transcriptions

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Oh, I did not know of this complication. How awfully messy that is!
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Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 3:53 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] ergent help needed with phonetic transcriptions


enes,

What font are they using for the IPA? There was a recent discussion of this in the JAWS group, Jaws and International Phonetic Alphabet. ( https://jfw.groups.io/g/main/topic/jaws_and_international/27829868?p=,,,20,0,0,0::recentpostdate%2Fsticky,,,20,0,140,27829868 )

There are a limited number of IPA fonts that have the capability of being read character-by-character, which is what would be needed here. It should be up to the instructor, to make sure that material is supplied in accessible format. If the material is really, really extensive I have to say that it is sometimes easier to have a human reader, but not always. It's always messy with the IPA since the character names are long and, if you get into diacritics, it gets even messier.

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Re: NVDA 2018.4 beta 2 and Firefox

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Yes but unfortunately I've tried the others too and still find it odd. So its obviously a link, so tab should find it whatever it is as you say, but only k does that is how I know it has to be a link, but apparently sometimes an invisible link to tab.
I hope that is clearer, or not?
Brian

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Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 6:29 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2018.4 beta 2 and Firefox


Brian,

Pressing the letter K or shift-K moves between links but it does not move focus to other controls, such as buttons, edit fields, etc. Pressing tab or shift-tab moves to any actionable element, such as links, buttons, edit fields and other form controls.

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On 11/26/2018 5:15 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
This may seem an odd question and I do not know who to aim it at.
What is the difference in link navigation on FF and waterfox between tab and k?
There is often some discrepancy on getting to the go to basket link on Amazon where k will work but tab will not
I just want to knoe if its..
a finger trouble at my end
B browser related
c Nvda related!
Brian

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Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 5:39 AM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA 2018.4 beta 2 and Firefox


Wow! Just wanted to say what a vast improvement NVDA 2018.4 beta 2 and FF is. Now this is the speed I’ve been waiting for since FF 57 came out almost a year ago. Thanks NV Access. I now use both JAWS and NVDA and JAWS 2019 at the moment was the winner in responsiveness. Now that’s changed in the new beta. Hope this will carry over to 2018.4 final build.

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Re: Please help me about Vocalizer

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But if he can do it from home, surely its not that?
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Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 10:15 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Please help me about Vocalizer


Hello!

It is a server problem on our side...

We are trying to solve it as soon as possible!

Thanks and best regards,

Rui Fontes
Tiflotecnia, Lda.

Às 03:23 de 26/11/2018, prem.translator@... escreveu:
Update my situation:
Things I have done until now.
1. Uninstall vocalizer driver and delete everything from %appdata%.
2. Download the driver and reinstall it.
3. At the activation, I get the following error.
"Error verifying credentials: Can not connect to Vocalizer for NVDA server. Please check if your internet connection is working."
4. I already contact IT department in my workplace regarding both errors. They don't know the address, IP or something like that of the Vocalizer for NVDA server, so they cannot do anything for now.
5. I sent an e-mail to Tiflotecnia regarding the problem.
What should I do next?
Thank you.


Re: A couple of small annoyances.

MAX <max@...>
 

Already tried that.

 

 

73 (Regards).

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 12:48 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] A couple of small annoyances.

 

I don't use Windows 10 which it appears you are.  Others can explain the procedure. 

 

As far as source is concerned, try sorce, with a c, though I doubt that will work.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: MAX

Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 12:36 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] A couple of small annoyances.

 

Source seems to be the only word of that general pronunciation that it messed up.  It does alright with horse.  As my last message I found that edge is still my default browser.  Short between the head sets.  Chrome has a big button labeled make this your default browser but Microsoft must have written an override.  How do I make chrome the default browser?

 

 

73 (Regards).

 

Max K 4 O D S.

 

I've Never Lost the Wonder.

 

Antique Electronics Site: http://www.angelfire.com/electronic/funwithtubes/

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 12:24 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] A couple of small annoyances.

 

Screen-reader designers shouldn't make editorial decisions about what a screen-reader reads that a program displays.  Unless this content isn't seen by sighted people, Windows should read it. 

 

The ispronounciation of source is the result of the synthesizer you are using and not NVDA.  Are you saying it mispronounces that sound in general or just in the word source?

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: MAX

Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 12:07 PM

To: NVDA

Subject: [nvda] A couple of small annoyances.

 

I recognize that these are small things that the developers may not think
are important enough to fix.  Here goes anyway.  When I am opening a file
in word I press control O and then tab twice.  Nvda says recently opened
files.  You haven't opened any files recently.  This was not unexpected the
first time I opened a file after installing nvda.  However, I use word
every day and the message continues.  At first it was a laugh, then a smile
and now it's I wish it wouldn't do that.  Another thing is the
pronunciation   of s o u r c e.  In the united states source rhymes with
horse not with farce as nvda pronounces it.  I have tried to fix it in the
dictionary but when I replace the h in horse with an s it goes back to the
rhyme with farce.   Well, I guess that's just the way it is.


73 (Regards).

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Re: A couple of small annoyances.

MAX <max@...>
 

I’m sorry for using so much bandwidth.  I think I have tamed this windows machine and have established chrome as my default browser.  The nvda help files work fine when used with chrome.  I don’t even have to move from the bullet to the text to make the link work.  I gather from the conversation that many other voice synthesizers  will work with nvda.  Is there a website that lists them.  It would be nice if they had a try before you buy option.

 

 

73 (Regards).

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 12:48 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] A couple of small annoyances.

 

I don't use Windows 10 which it appears you are.  Others can explain the procedure. 

 

As far as source is concerned, try sorce, with a c, though I doubt that will work.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: MAX

Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 12:36 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] A couple of small annoyances.

 

Source seems to be the only word of that general pronunciation that it messed up.  It does alright with horse.  As my last message I found that edge is still my default browser.  Short between the head sets.  Chrome has a big button labeled make this your default browser but Microsoft must have written an override.  How do I make chrome the default browser?

 

 

73 (Regards).

 

Max K 4 O D S.

 

I've Never Lost the Wonder.

 

Antique Electronics Site: http://www.angelfire.com/electronic/funwithtubes/

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 12:24 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] A couple of small annoyances.

 

Screen-reader designers shouldn't make editorial decisions about what a screen-reader reads that a program displays.  Unless this content isn't seen by sighted people, Windows should read it. 

 

The ispronounciation of source is the result of the synthesizer you are using and not NVDA.  Are you saying it mispronounces that sound in general or just in the word source?

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: MAX

Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 12:07 PM

To: NVDA

Subject: [nvda] A couple of small annoyances.

 

I recognize that these are small things that the developers may not think
are important enough to fix.  Here goes anyway.  When I am opening a file
in word I press control O and then tab twice.  Nvda says recently opened
files.  You haven't opened any files recently.  This was not unexpected the
first time I opened a file after installing nvda.  However, I use word
every day and the message continues.  At first it was a laugh, then a smile
and now it's I wish it wouldn't do that.  Another thing is the
pronunciation   of s o u r c e.  In the united states source rhymes with
horse not with farce as nvda pronounces it.  I have tried to fix it in the
dictionary but when I replace the h in horse with an s it goes back to the
rhyme with farce.   Well, I guess that's just the way it is.


73 (Regards).

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Re: A couple of small annoyances.

Gene
 

I don't use Windows 10 which it appears you are.  Others can explain the procedure. 
 
As far as source is concerned, try sorce, with a c, though I doubt that will work.
 

Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: MAX
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 12:36 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] A couple of small annoyances.

Source seems to be the only word of that general pronunciation that it messed up.  It does alright with horse.  As my last message I found that edge is still my default browser.  Short between the head sets.  Chrome has a big button labeled make this your default browser but Microsoft must have written an override.  How do I make chrome the default browser?

 

 

73 (Regards).

 

Max K 4 O D S.

 

I've Never Lost the Wonder.

 

Antique Electronics Site: http://www.angelfire.com/electronic/funwithtubes/

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 12:24 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] A couple of small annoyances.

 

Screen-reader designers shouldn't make editorial decisions about what a screen-reader reads that a program displays.  Unless this content isn't seen by sighted people, Windows should read it. 

 

The ispronounciation of source is the result of the synthesizer you are using and not NVDA.  Are you saying it mispronounces that sound in general or just in the word source?

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: MAX

Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 12:07 PM

To: NVDA

Subject: [nvda] A couple of small annoyances.

 

I recognize that these are small things that the developers may not think
are important enough to fix.  Here goes anyway.  When I am opening a file
in word I press control O and then tab twice.  Nvda says recently opened
files.  You haven't opened any files recently.  This was not unexpected the
first time I opened a file after installing nvda.  However, I use word
every day and the message continues.  At first it was a laugh, then a smile
and now it's I wish it wouldn't do that.  Another thing is the
pronunciation   of s o u r c e.  In the united states source rhymes with
horse not with farce as nvda pronounces it.  I have tried to fix it in the
dictionary but when I replace the h in horse with an s it goes back to the
rhyme with farce.   Well, I guess that's just the way it is.


73 (Regards).

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Re: A couple of small annoyances.

MAX <max@...>
 

Source seems to be the only word of that general pronunciation that it messed up.  It does alright with horse.  As my last message I found that edge is still my default browser.  Short between the head sets.  Chrome has a big button labeled make this your default browser but Microsoft must have written an override.  How do I make chrome the default browser?

 

 

73 (Regards).

 

Max K 4 O D S.

 

I've Never Lost the Wonder.

 

Antique Electronics Site: http://www.angelfire.com/electronic/funwithtubes/

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 12:24 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] A couple of small annoyances.

 

Screen-reader designers shouldn't make editorial decisions about what a screen-reader reads that a program displays.  Unless this content isn't seen by sighted people, Windows should read it. 

 

The ispronounciation of source is the result of the synthesizer you are using and not NVDA.  Are you saying it mispronounces that sound in general or just in the word source?

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: MAX

Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 12:07 PM

To: NVDA

Subject: [nvda] A couple of small annoyances.

 

I recognize that these are small things that the developers may not think
are important enough to fix.  Here goes anyway.  When I am opening a file
in word I press control O and then tab twice.  Nvda says recently opened
files.  You haven't opened any files recently.  This was not unexpected the
first time I opened a file after installing nvda.  However, I use word
every day and the message continues.  At first it was a laugh, then a smile
and now it's I wish it wouldn't do that.  Another thing is the
pronunciation   of s o u r c e.  In the united states source rhymes with
horse not with farce as nvda pronounces it.  I have tried to fix it in the
dictionary but when I replace the h in horse with an s it goes back to the
rhyme with farce.   Well, I guess that's just the way it is.


73 (Regards).

Max.  K 4 O DS.

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Re: NVDA 2018.4 beta 2 and Firefox

David Goldfield
 

Brian,

Pressing the letter K or shift-K moves between links but it does not move focus to other controls, such as buttons, edit fields, etc. Pressing tab or shift-tab moves to any actionable element, such as links, buttons, edit fields and other form controls.

David Goldfield, Assistive Technology Specialist WWW.David-Goldfield.Com

On 11/26/2018 5:15 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
This may seem an odd question and I do not know who to aim it at.
What is the difference in link navigation on FF and waterfox between tab and k?
There is  often some discrepancy on getting to the  go to basket link on Amazon where k will work but tab will not
I just want to knoe if its..
a finger trouble at my end
B browser related
c Nvda related!
Brian

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Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 5:39 AM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA 2018.4 beta 2 and Firefox


Wow! Just wanted to say what a vast improvement NVDA 2018.4 beta 2 and FF is. Now this is the speed I’ve been waiting for since FF 57 came out almost a year ago. Thanks NV Access. I now use both JAWS and NVDA and JAWS 2019 at the moment was the winner in responsiveness. Now that’s changed in the new beta. Hope this will carry over to 2018.4 final build.

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Re: ergent help needed with phonetic transcriptions

 

On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 12:44 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
somethingn don't read well, if at all. I wish you luck in your IPA class.
And it's not really intended to be read, in the conventional sense of the word.  It's the graphical representation of a sound sequence as close to "literally" as you can get it.  When you "read" something in IPA you're not conventionally reading it like text but creating a sound stream of phonemes based on their IPA symbols.  It's certainly nothing like reading any natural language that has a written form (sign language being one of the natural languages that has no written form, and there are others).
 
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Re: A couple of small annoyances.

Gene
 

Screen-reader designers shouldn't make editorial decisions about what a screen-reader reads that a program displays.  Unless this content isn't seen by sighted people, Windows should read it. 
 
The ispronounciation of source is the result of the synthesizer you are using and not NVDA.  Are you saying it mispronounces that sound in general or just in the word source?
 

Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: MAX
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 12:07 PM
To: NVDA
Subject: [nvda] A couple of small annoyances.

I recognize that these are small things that the developers may not think
are important enough to fix.  Here goes anyway.  When I am opening a file
in word I press control O and then tab twice.  Nvda says recently opened
files.  You haven't opened any files recently.  This was not unexpected the
first time I opened a file after installing nvda.  However, I use word
every day and the message continues.  At first it was a laugh, then a smile
and now it's I wish it wouldn't do that.  Another thing is the
pronunciation   of s o u r c e.  In the united states source rhymes with
horse not with farce as nvda pronounces it.  I have tried to fix it in the
dictionary but when I replace the h in horse with an s it goes back to the
rhyme with farce.   Well, I guess that's just the way it is.


73 (Regards).

Max.  K 4 O DS.

I've Never Lost the Wonder.

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Re: some unsolved problems about NVDA

Gene
 

Firefox hasn't done away with the menu.  press f11 and the menus should return.  when menus disappear from a program, its usually because it is set for full screen, which is not the same as maximized.  Full screen causes the menus not to appear because the content window is using the full screen.  F11 is the usual toggle short cut key for full screen.
 
Popups are likely the result of adware.
 
Does tabbing also solve the link activation problem?  If you can't activate a link, tab or shift tab away from it, then tab to be properly on the link.  Using the arrow keys may not place you at the right part of the link.  Tab moves you forward to every link and control on a web page and shift tab moves you backward.  Those are Windows commands and it can be used with or without a screen-reader.
 
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----- Original Message -----

From: MAX
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 11:49 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] some unsolved problems about NVDA

I wish to thank everyone who responded to my question.  The major part of the problem turned out to be MS edge.  I had stopped using Google Chrome when it started giving me pop up advertising I didn’t want.  I switched back to it and the nvda help works fine and I am not getting pop ups.  If I start getting them again I’ll be back for help with the problem.  I have tried fire fox but I can’t find the menu.  It seems as if they have done away with it.  The other part of the problem was solved by using the right arrow to get off of the bullet.  I looked at the source code and I see they are being generated by ul in html code.  What happens if you put the li token inside of the anchor?  I have left off the less than and greater than symbols in case some have their email set to recognize html code.

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Chris via Groups.Io
Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2018 11:05 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] some unsolved problems about NVDA

 

Theres actually a add-on for visual studio

https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/visualStudio.en.html

 

maybe that will help you 😃

 

 

 

From: Raha Tehrani
Sent: 25 November 2018 16:38
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] some unsolved problems about NVDA

 

Dear all.

as you all know, NVDA 2018.4 is on the way. at the moment, the

developers' version is available to check for probable problems.

there's a problem which I have seen with different versions of NVDA.

it won't say anything in Visual Basic in Microsoft visual studio. I

have tried it on Microsoft visual studio 2010. it's fine with the

design area. but it keeps being completely silent while the text

editor area is on the foreground. I have no account on Github. but if

you have one, please let them know about this very significant

problem, so that it can be fixed in the next release. it's kind of

important. because you can't simply edit what you write within the

text-editing environment. as a result, programming gets difficult on

visual basic in microsoft visual studio 2010, using NVDA. please do

tell the NVAccess team about this major problem. note: this is not the

case with JAWS. it's fine with VB in MS Visual Studio 2010. you can

easily move with design and text-editing area with jaws. therefore,

you can easily edit what you've written in the text editor

environment.

 

let's keep in mind, this is not the only case.

NVDA crashes as you let it get updated out of addon updator but

mannually restart it.

as you know, while using addon updater, it lets you know when there

are addons to update, after installing, NVDA asks you to let it

restart. if you choose yes, NVDA will restart, but after rebooting,

you will see a couple of NVDAs on the system tray. if you press enter

on one of them it will disappear. if you say no, and then you will

mannually exit and reload NVDA, it will crash after a few seconds, and

won't reload unless you sign out and sign in again.

I should mention that all these cases have taken place in windows 10

18.9 64 bit latest update.

thanks again.

take care.