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Re: Audio Output

Ralph Boersema
 

I already did this and also already restarted the computer. The problem remains.

 

Ralph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 9:34 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Audio Output

 

Try closing and restarting NVDA.

 

Gene

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Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 8:23 PM

Subject: [nvda] Audio Output

 

Dear Friends,

 

Today I replaced my headset (Logitech H820E) with a new one of the same kind. First it worked well. Then I restarted NVDA and the NVDA output switched to the laptop speakers. The system sounds still output through the headset, but NVDA does not. All the sound device settings that we could find are correct. The NVDA setting under preferences for sound output is set to the headphone as desired. Nevertheless the NVDA output comes through the laptop speakers and not the headset. I am using Windows 10.

 

Any suggestions?

 

Warmly,

Ralph


Re: NVDA 2018.4 Beta 2: Improved Responsiveness in Mozilla Thunderbird

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi David,

I can't notice much difference - it seems pretty snappy in all three versions (2018.3.2, beta1 and beta2).  Are you using an add-on like the Mozilla app enhancements which might affect responsiveness?

If you might be, if you press NVDA+q, then down arrow to "restart with add-ons disabled" and press ENTER, you can check what it is like without any add-ons.  If that is much snappier, you could first check for updates to any addons you use - Joseph Lee particularly regularly releases updates to his add-ons which often improve performance.

Otherwise, if you could send me a copy of your log at input / output or debug level, I can see if I can find anything slowing you down.

Regards

Quentin.

On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 2:39 PM David Goldfield <david.goldfield@...> wrote:

Hi.

Last week I mentioned that NVDA 2018.4 beta 1 was exhibiting slower responsiveness with certain keypresses. This was noticed in Thunderbird but also in Google Chrome, two programs which I use daily. I'm happy to report that this situation has improved and the responsiveness is much better in beta 2. However, the 2018.3.2 production build still seems snappier regarding the time it takes me to press a key until I hear the output or results of that press. I most notice this when navigating by links using K or shift-K. I'm very pleased that things have improved with beta 2 but I do hope that the final 2018.4 release will behave identically to 2018.3.2. Could someone from NV Access comment on this? Were changes made to NVDA which could, potentially, increase latency with key presses?


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Re: Audio Output

Gene
 

Try closing and restarting NVDA.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 8:23 PM
Subject: [nvda] Audio Output

Dear Friends,

 

Today I replaced my headset (Logitech H820E) with a new one of the same kind. First it worked well. Then I restarted NVDA and the NVDA output switched to the laptop speakers. The system sounds still output through the headset, but NVDA does not. All the sound device settings that we could find are correct. The NVDA setting under preferences for sound output is set to the headphone as desired. Nevertheless the NVDA output comes through the laptop speakers and not the headset. I am using Windows 10.

 

Any suggestions?

 

Warmly,

Ralph


Audio Output

Ralph Boersema
 

Dear Friends,

 

Today I replaced my headset (Logitech H820E) with a new one of the same kind. First it worked well. Then I restarted NVDA and the NVDA output switched to the laptop speakers. The system sounds still output through the headset, but NVDA does not. All the sound device settings that we could find are correct. The NVDA setting under preferences for sound output is set to the headphone as desired. Nevertheless the NVDA output comes through the laptop speakers and not the headset. I am using Windows 10.

 

Any suggestions?

 

Warmly,

Ralph


Re: Scren reader malfunctioning

Quentin Christensen
 

Have you restarted the computer - not just closed the lid, but go to the Windows shutdown option and choose "restart".



On Sat, Nov 24, 2018 at 12:46 PM Ibrahim Ajayi <kobisko@...> wrote:
Hi good people:
Please I am having problems with my NVDA screen reader.  I started
having these problems after a reformatting of my laptop computer a few
days ago.
The first problem is that I cannot change the keyboard layout from
desktop to laptop.  When I activate the laptop option, it does not
change from desk top to laptop.  I don't understand why this is
happening.  I in fact re-installed the program, but the problem has
persisted.
The problem is peculiar with NVDA, because I don't have these problems
with JAWS.  Please is there a fix for these problems.
I also want to find out how I can turn on windows defender, or windows
firewall.  When I attempted turning on windows defender, by typing
defender in to the search box, and windows defender coming up, I am
unable to pull down the file menu to go to tools, in order to do the
turn on.  I even tried using the application key, all to no avail.
Hope to read a response.
From Ibrahim.





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Re: ergent help needed with phonetic transcriptions

 

On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 02:16 PM, Brian's Mail list account wrote:
So the concept is then, trying to put sounds into a writable form for a person who cannot see it in the first place. This sounds a bit like some kind comedy sketch from an old goon show.
Precisely.

I also don't know how to explain that we who see and are examining material in the IPA are not trying to read it, but are really using it to "sound it out."

As you're also a Brian, you know what our shared name sounds like.  It would be written in IPA so that linguists, or non-native speakers of a given language, can sound out how we pronounce it.  No one ever reads it character by character using the actual IPA character name, but using the sound (AKA phoneme) that the character represents.

The list that John Isige presented is not comprehensive, either (and, John, that's not a swipe at you, it's just an observation).  A number of the common vowel digraphs of English are missing.

All of this takes me back to when I was studying speech and language pathology for my master's and put together a child-language checksheet for order of acquisition of various English phonemes, morphological markers, as well as interactional skills/communicative intents (among other things).

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Re: FW: [bhp] NVDA

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi,

As Adriani noted, there are a couple of issues on GitHub which could be similar.  A couple of questions to follow up:

You said several different versions of NVDA - so this is not a new issue, it has been present for some time?  Did it used to work at one point, or has it always been a problem?

Does it cause an error or a crash, in either NVDA or Visual Studio, or make NVDA unresponsive - aside from not being able to read text in Visual Studio, if you say, alt+tab to another window does NVDA work?

If you could set NVDA's log level to "debug", then repeat the program with NVDA, and then email me a copy of your NVDA log to info@..., that would be very helpful please.

There is some info on our log files here: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/wiki/LogFilesAndCrashDumps

Kind regards

Quentin.


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From: Raha Tehrani
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2018 1:30 AM
To: bhp
Subject: [bhp] NVDA

 

Dear all.

as you all know, NVDA 2018.4 is on the way. at the moment, the

developers' version is available to check for probable problems.

there's a problem which I have seen with different versions of NVDA.

it won't say anything in Visual Basic in Microsoft visual studio. I

have tried it on Microsoft visual studio 2010. it's fine with the

design area. but it keeps being completely silent while the text

editor area is on the foreground. I have no account on Github. but if

you have one, please let them know about this very significant

problem, so that it can be fixed in the next release. it's kind of

important. because you can't simply edit what you write within the

text-editing environment. as a result, programming gets difficult on

visual basic in microsoft visual studio 2010, using NVDA. please do

tell the NVAccess team about this major problem. note: this is not the

case with JAWS. it's fine with VB in MS Visual Studio 2010. you can

easily move with design and text-editing area with jaws. therefore,

you can easily edit what you've written in the text editor

environment.

take care.

 

 

 



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Re: Please help me about Vocalizer

Isaac <bigikemusic@...>
 

Well, you could remove the entire addon and all files in your \users\username\roming\nvda\addons folder

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave" <dlh007@centurylink.net>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 6:32 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Please help me about Vocalizer


Where did you purchase the Vocalizer Voices? I bought mine from Code
Factory, and I too have had some issues with the voices not working.

I think mine was caused by my getting an update to Win 7. this might
have been about 8 months ago.

I have contacted Code Factory, but nothing they told me to do has worked.
I was finally told I may need to reinstall Win 7, and then everything
else again.

When I asked what files could I erase, that were Code Factory files,
they acted dumb and never responded back.

So, on that machine, I am using Jaws only.

Grumpy Dave





Re: Please help me about Vocalizer

Rui Fontes
 

Answered in private...

Rui Fontes
Tiflotecnia, Lda.


Às 00:24 de 27/11/2018, prem.translator@gmail.com escreveu:

Today, I just arrive at my office, and still get the following error:
"Error verifying credentials: Can not connect to Vocalizer for NVDA server. Please check if your internet connection is working."
There is no problem happening to laptop at my home.


Re: Please help me about Vocalizer

Dave <dlh007@...>
 

Where did you purchase the Vocalizer Voices? I bought mine from Code
Factory, and I too have had some issues with the voices not working.

I think mine was caused by my getting an update to Win 7. this might
have been about 8 months ago.

I have contacted Code Factory, but nothing they told me to do has worked.
I was finally told I may need to reinstall Win 7, and then everything
else again.

When I asked what files could I erase, that were Code Factory files,
they acted dumb and never responded back.

So, on that machine, I am using Jaws only.

Grumpy Dave


Re: Please help me about Vocalizer

prem.translator@...
 

Today, I just arrive at my office, and still get the following error: 
 
"Error verifying credentials: Can not connect to Vocalizer for NVDA server. Please check if your internet connection is working." 
 
There is no problem happening to laptop at my home. 


Re: books about NVDA on the access technology institute website.

Monte Single
 

The books at the nvaccess.org  website are about or less than 25 u s dollars.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of hurrikennyandopo ...
Sent: November-26-18 4:12 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] books about NVDA on the access technology institute website.

 

Hi

 

Not sure if you are aware but nvaccess sells some books. They vary in price depending wht format you get. 2 of them are one is for excel and the other for word and there is one for the screen reader. They can be found at https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

I know that is probably not answering your other question on the other site but thought you might not know of these resources.

 

I do also have written and audio tutorials on my website for nvda and there is a page where i put together some windows 10 tutorials on stuff that i changed to suit my needs that other people would probably change to 2.

 

The website can be found at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net

Gene nz

 

On 27/11/2018 10:52 AM, Sue J. Ward wrote:

 Hello. I would like to buy the two books about NVDA but they are kind of pricey maybe email them to me if you can on the blind.training or it is called access technology institute website. One is about the NVDA screen reader which goes for 95 dollars that mainly talks about the entire screen reader guess from what I have read it walks you through everything the only thing I don't know when it was written. Does any one have a copy that could email it to me for free? The other one is about windows 10 using nvda it sounds like it is a good book to get it talks about the entire system but what I don't get is when you first get a new computer that has windows 10 it does not have word installed and in the book it mentions and walks you through windows 10 and one of the lessons is managing and saving documents mentions word plus there are several lessons about microsoft word. It is good but I just want a book mainly about windows 10 minus the stuff about word. The book does cost around 150 dollars it sounds like a good resource was wondering has anyone bought the books from the website and how good are they? I would also like a copy of the book as well if anyone has that could they email that to me? The books are an immersion in to NVDA

 The other one is an immersion  in to windows 10 with NVDA. Thank you.
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Re: books about NVDA on the access technology institute website.

Ann Byrne
 

The books are very reasonably priced, well done, worth every penny. I paid $23 US for the Word book and the Excel book.

At 04:12 PM 11/26/2018, you wrote:

Hi


Not sure if you are aware but nvaccess sells some books. They vary in price depending wht format you get. 2 of them are one is for excel and the other for word and there is one for the screen reader. They can be found at <https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/>https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

I know that is probably not answering your other question on the other site but thought you might not know of these resources.


I do also have written and audio tutorials on my website for nvda and there is a page where i put together some windows 10 tutorials on stuff that i changed to suit my needs that other people would probably change to 2.


The website can be found at <http://www.accessibilitycentral.net>http://www.accessibilitycentral.net

Gene nz


On 27/11/2018 10:52 AM, Sue J. Ward wrote:
Hello. I would like to buy the two books about NVDA but they are kind of pricey maybe email them to me if you can on the blind.training or it is called access technology institute website. One is about the NVDA screen reader which goes for 95 dollars that mainly talks about the entire screen reader guess from what I have read it walks you through everything the only thing I don't know when it was written. Does any one have a copy that could email it to me for free? The other one is about windows 10 using nvda it sounds like it is a good book to get it talks about the entire system but what I don't get is when you first get a new computer that has windows 10 it does not have word installed and in the book it mentions and walks you through windows 10 and one of the lessons is managing and saving documents mentions word plus there are several lessons about microsoft word. It is good but I just want a book mainly about windows 10 minus the stuff about word. The book does cost around 150 dollars it sounds like a good resource was wondering has anyone bought the books from the website and how good are they? I would also like a copy of the book as well if anyone has that could they email that to me? The books are an immersion in to NVDA

The other one is an immersion in to windows 10 with NVDA. Thank you.
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Re: books about NVDA on the access technology institute website.

Monte Single
 

The books on n v d a found on the;

Nvaccess.ort

Website are about one third the cost of those found on the

Blindtraining.com

Website.

Go to;

Nvaccess.ort/store and should find what you want.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sue J. Ward
Sent: November-26-18 3:52 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] books about NVDA on the access technology institute website.

Hello. I would like to buy the two books about NVDA but they are kind of pricey maybe email them to me if you can on the blind.training or it is called access technology institute website. One is about the NVDA screen reader which goes for 95 dollars that mainly talks about the entire screen reader guess from what I have read it walks you through everything the only thing I don't know when it was written. Does any one have a copy that could email it to me for free? The other one is about windows 10 using nvda it sounds like it is a good book to get it talks about the entire system but what I don't get is when you first get a new computer that has windows 10 it does not have word installed and in the book it mentions and walks you through windows 10 and one of the lessons is managing and saving documents mentions word plus there are several lessons about microsoft word. It is good but I just want a book mainly about windows 10 minus the stuff about word. The book does cost around
150 dollars it sounds like a good resource was wondering has anyone bought the books from the website and how good are they? I would also like a copy of the book as well if anyone has that could they email that to me? The books are an immersion in to NVDA

The other one is an immersion in to windows 10 with NVDA. Thank you.
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Re: ergent help needed with phonetic transcriptions

John Isige
 

Ah. I see that didn't work. Well, let me try just pasting the text in then.


#Posted by Marshall Flax.
# Converted from http://www.ruf.rice.edu/~reng/jaws-ipa.html


æ    Ash
ç    C Cedilla
ð    Edh
ø    Slashed O
ħ    Crossed H
ŋ    Eng
œ    O E Digraph
ǀ    Pipe
ǁ    Double Pipe
ǂ    Double Barred Pipe
ǃ    Exclamation Point
ɐ    Turned A
ɑ    Script A
ɒ    Turned Script A
ɓ    Hooktop B
ɔ    Open O
ɕ    Curly Tail C
ɖ    Right Tail D
ɗ    Hooktop D
ɘ    Reversed E
ə    Schwa
ɚ    Schwa With Hook
ɛ    Epsilon
ɜ    Reversed Epsilon
ɞ    Closed Reversed Epsilon
ɟ    Barred Dotless J
ɠ    Hooktop G
ɡ    Lowercase Script G
ɢ    Small Capital G
ɣ    Gamma
ɤ    Ram'S Horns
ɥ    Turned H
ɦ    Hooktop H
ɧ    Hooked Heng
ɨ    Barred I
ɪ    Small Capital I
ɫ    Lowercase L With Tilde
ɬ    Belted L
ɭ    Right Tail L
ɮ    L Yogh Digraph
ɯ    Turned M
ɰ    Turned M, Right Leg
ɱ    Left Tail M
ɲ    Left Tail N
ɳ    Right Tail N
ɴ    Small Capital N
ɵ    Barred O
ɶ    Small Capital O E Digraph
ɸ    Phi
ɹ    Turned R
ɺ    Turned Long Leg R
ɻ    Turned R, Right Tail
ɽ    Right Tail R
ɾ    Fish Hook R
ʀ    Small Capital R
ʁ    Inverted Small Capital R
ʂ    Right Tail S
ʃ    Esh
ʄ    Hooktop Barred Dotless J
ʈ    Right Tail T
ʉ    Barred U
ʊ    Upsilon
ʋ    Script V
ʌ    Turned V
ʍ    Turned W
ʎ    Turned Y
ʏ    Small Capital Y
ʐ    Right Tail Z
ʑ    Curly Tail Z
ʒ    Yogh
ʔ    Glottal Stop
ʕ    Reversed Glottal Stop
ʘ    Bull'S Eye
ʙ    Small Capital B
ʛ    Hooktop Small Capital G
ʜ    Small Capital H
ʝ    Curly Tail J
ʟ    Small Capital L
ʡ    Barred Glottal Stop
ʢ    Barred Reversed Glottal Stop
ʣ    D Z Digraph
ʤ    D Yogh Digraph
ʥ    D Curly Tail Z Digraph
ʦ    T S Digraph
ʧ    T Esh Digraph
ʨ    T Curly Tail C Digraph
ʰ    Superscript H
ʲ    Superscript J
ʷ    Superscript W
ʼ    Apostrophe
ˈ    Vertical Stroke Superior
ˌ    Vertical Stroke Inferior
ː    Length Mark
ˑ    Half Length Mark
˞    Right Hook
ˠ    Superscript Gamma
ˡ    Superscript L
ˤ    Superscript Reversed Glottal Stop
˥    Extra High Tone Bar
˦    High Tone Bar
˧    Mid Tone Bar
˨    Low Tone Bar
˩    Extra Low Tone Bar
̀    Grave Accent Above
́    Acute Accent Above
̂    Circumflex Above
̃    Tilde Above
̄    Macron Above
̆    Breve Above
̈    Umlaut Above
̊    Ring Above
̋    Double Acute Accent Above
̌    Wedge Above
̏    Double Grave Accent Above
̘    Advancing Sign Below
̙    Retracting Sign Below
̚    Corner Above
̜    Left Half Ring Below
̝    Raising Sign Below
̞    Lowering Sign Below
̟    Plus Below
̠    Minus Below
̤    Umlaut Below
̥    Ring Below
̩    Vertical Line Below
̪    Bridge Below
̬    Wedge Below
̯    Arch Below
̰    Tilde Below
̴    Superimposed Tilde
̹    Right Half Ring Below
̺    Inverted Bridge Below
̻    Square Below
̼    Seagull Below
̽    Over Cross Above
β    Beta
θ    Theta
χ    Chi
‖    Double Vertical Line
‿    Bottom Tie Bar
ⁿ    Superscript N
↑    Up Arrow
→    Rightward Arrow
↓    Down Arrow
↗    Upward Diagonal Arrow
↘    Downward Diagonal Arrow
͡    Top Tie Bar
    Macron Acute Above
    Grave Macron Above
    Grave Acute Grave Above


Re: ergent help needed with phonetic transcriptions

John Isige
 

The hopefully attached IPA dictionary was posted to this list quite a while ago. I don't think I ever got it to load, but maybe somebody can take a look at it and see if it works.


Re: help items missing

Cearbhall O'Meadhra
 

Yes, I can open those files from the documentation/en/  directory under c:/progam files (x86)/nvda/documentation/en/

What would you recommend if it is, indeed, a problem ofile association?

 

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 10:54 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] help items missing

 

Can you open those files from the documentation/en directory?  Windows does differentiate between local html files and online files (using the http protocol), so it could still be the file association for opening local html files (which would also explain why reinstalling NVDA doesn't fix it, since we don't try to set that association).

 

On Tue, Nov 27, 2018 at 3:56 AM Cearbhall O'Meadhra <cearbhall.omeadhra@...> wrote:

Brian,

Thanks for keeping with this issue.
I found that the files are indeed present under various language folders within the NVDA directory on the C: drive. They do exist in the "en" folder which is the  folder I would expect NVDA to call when the language setting is set to "English".

I found that I had not actually selected English in the General settings of NVDA. I corrected this so that NVDA now expects English as the default language but still the three files are not being picked up by the Help menu in NVDA.


All the best,

Cearbhall

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 9:43 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] help items missing

Well the only way I can make such files not display is to break the browsers linking, ie the browser gets launched but the file its asked to open is either corrupted in the command or missing so you get a blank browser window.
 I've tried several  portable and installed copies and cannot duplicate the effect here on windows 7 , so maybe something else broke. However if you can open some html files etc then it seems odd that the problem is so selective unless its a llanguage of the files or some other obscure issue where the characters are not correct to match the file names. Have you searched for the files manually on the machine?
 Brian

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From: "Cearbhall O'Meadhra" <cearbhall.omeadhra@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Cc: "'Quentin Christensen'" <quentin@...>
Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2018 4:43 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] help items missing


Brian,

Logically, I would have agreed with you. But, I did remove NVDA completely
and then installed a fresh download of the whole NVDA package, installed it
and still the three files are missing!


Listed but failing to open (presumed Missing!):
* NVDA User Guide
* Commands quick Reference
* What's New

Present and functioning:
* NVDA Web Site
* Licence
* Contributors
* Welcome Dialog
* Check for Update
* About


Could someone tell me what the program file names for the three missing
items are? I could then check the NVDA folder and see if they are actually
present.

All the best,

Cearbhall

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian's Mail
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Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2018 10:13 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] help items missing

Have you tried a reinstall but keeping the settings? If its just files that
are missing and you know they were there in the first place, they have to be
in the installer, surely?
 Brian

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Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2018 10:48 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] help items missing


Hi,



I was going to investigate the query on using the User manual when I
discovered that the User Manual command reference and what’s new items are
missing from my NVDA menu!

All the other items are present in the help menu.

I am using NVDA 2018.3.2 in Windows 10.



Any suggestions as to how to recover?



All the best,



Cearbhall



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Re: help items missing

Quentin Christensen
 

Can you open those files from the documentation/en directory?  Windows does differentiate between local html files and online files (using the http protocol), so it could still be the file association for opening local html files (which would also explain why reinstalling NVDA doesn't fix it, since we don't try to set that association).


On Tue, Nov 27, 2018 at 3:56 AM Cearbhall O'Meadhra <cearbhall.omeadhra@...> wrote:
Brian,

Thanks for keeping with this issue.
I found that the files are indeed present under various language folders within the NVDA directory on the C: drive. They do exist in the "en" folder which is the  folder I would expect NVDA to call when the language setting is set to "English".

I found that I had not actually selected English in the General settings of NVDA. I corrected this so that NVDA now expects English as the default language but still the three files are not being picked up by the Help menu in NVDA.


All the best,

Cearbhall

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Well the only way I can make such files not display is to break the browsers linking, ie the browser gets launched but the file its asked to open is either corrupted in the command or missing so you get a blank browser window.
 I've tried several  portable and installed copies and cannot duplicate the effect here on windows 7 , so maybe something else broke. However if you can open some html files etc then it seems odd that the problem is so selective unless its a llanguage of the files or some other obscure issue where the characters are not correct to match the file names. Have you searched for the files manually on the machine?
 Brian

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Brian,

Logically, I would have agreed with you. But, I did remove NVDA completely
and then installed a fresh download of the whole NVDA package, installed it
and still the three files are missing!


Listed but failing to open (presumed Missing!):
* NVDA User Guide
* Commands quick Reference
* What's New

Present and functioning:
* NVDA Web Site
* Licence
* Contributors
* Welcome Dialog
* Check for Update
* About


Could someone tell me what the program file names for the three missing
items are? I could then check the NVDA folder and see if they are actually
present.

All the best,

Cearbhall

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Have you tried a reinstall but keeping the settings? If its just files that
are missing and you know they were there in the first place, they have to be
in the installer, surely?
 Brian

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Hi,



I was going to investigate the query on using the User manual when I
discovered that the User Manual command reference and what’s new items are
missing from my NVDA menu!

All the other items are present in the help menu.

I am using NVDA 2018.3.2 in Windows 10.



Any suggestions as to how to recover?



All the best,



Cearbhall



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Re: ergent help needed with phonetic transcriptions

Sarah k Alawami
 

I read the braille version actually for my singing class. I didn't get it all, my instructor gave it to me which was cool. of him. We also worked on ways I could write it until I got my keyboard to work.

On 26 Nov 2018, at 13:36, Cohn, Jonathan wrote:

Well, I have seen no resources for NVDA, but a professor at Rice University has worked extensively on a Braille version of IPA and has also written a guide to getting IPA to work with JAWS.

A good starting point is from the Braille Monitor at:
https://nfb.org/images/nfb/publications/bm/bm13/bm1302/bm130211.htm

I expect the instructions for JAWS might be easily modified to work with NVDA but I have no idea how the UNICODE character maps for NVDA are defined.

The article also mentions that Duxbury can translate IPA Unicode into Braille but no mention of lib-louis.


Best Wishes,

Jonathan


On 11/26/18, 12:45 AM, "nvda@nvda.groups.io on behalf of enes sarıbaş" <nvda@nvda.groups.io on behalf of enes.saribas@gmail.com> wrote:

hi,

So I am doing my masters in linguistics, and have a writing assignment
about a topic in morphology. The problem is, the morphemes are
transcribed in the international phonetic alphabet, and bracketed and
for this reason nvda will not read them correctly. Has anyone else here
done linguistics, and if so how did you solve this problem? I am afraid
of failing the assignment not because of a lack of efort, but because I
can't access the matterial correctly. Would a braille display help with
this?









Re: ergent help needed with phonetic transcriptions

Sarah k Alawami
 

I took it for my singing class. It really does help with foreign languages or people who not speak. It is an amazing language and I hope to one day continue my studies in IPA

On 26 Nov 2018, at 11:16, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:

So the concept is then, trying to put sounds into a writable form for a person who cannot see it in the first place. This sounds a bit like some kind comedy sketch from an old goon show.
Brian

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On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 12:44 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:


somethingn don't read well, if at all. I wish you luck in your IPA class.
And it's not really intended to be read, in the conventional sense of the word. It's the graphical representation of a sound sequence as close to "literally" as you can get it. When you "read" something in IPA you're not conventionally reading it like text but creating a sound stream of phonemes based on their IPA symbols. It's certainly nothing like reading any natural language that has a written form (sign language being one of the natural languages that has no written form, and there are others).

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