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Re: Windows 10 version 1809?

Kwork
 

Lisa, on the win 10 forum, Joseph Lee strongly advises not to force Windows to update till it says your system is ready. Here is much of the quoted message he sent out this past week to the Win 10 group. He may chime in later, but wanted to get this to you early:


"As much as I want to see many of you join me in Version 1809, there are times when I and other experts must say, ‘not right now”. A few weeks ago, we as a community saw what happens when a member or two of this community loses valuable data after installing unpatched Version 1809. Since then, the feature update was pulled from distribution, and a month later, it came back with subsequent issues documented by Microsoft and others (iCloud problem, for instance).
I know that some of you are checking for Version 1809 on Windows Update or use Upgrade Assistant/Media Creation Tool to manually install Version 1809. I imagine, even as I speak right now, some of you are pressing Windows+I, select Update and Security, and check for updates in hopes of seeing “Feature update to Windows 10, Version 1809” show up. Or perhaps, by the time I finish speaking, you’re in the middle of downloading Upgrade Assistant and clicking Next button.
To those of you who are doing these right now, I advise you to STOP IMMEDIATELY! There is a reason why Microsoft and others put a stop sign: possible incompatibilities, and making sure your system (software and hardware) is actually ready for Version 1809. Also, as pointed out by another member a few minutes ago, please don’t recommend Upgrade Assistant or Media Creation Tool unless the person who you’re talking to fully understands implications of upgrading early and manually.
Speaking of feature update checks, in the future I will no longer answer when I and others receive posts like the following:
• I checked for updates repeatedly but such and such feature update doesn’t show up on Windows Update.
• When will I get such and such feature update on my computer?
• I want to install such and such feature update manually but don’t know what might end up happening to my computer.
This change from your head list representative takes effect immediately. No change to forum policy whatsoever, because I understand not many folks understand what all this is at first, especially when learning new assumptions when moving from Windows 7/8.1 to 10. Although I might answer some obscure questions about update checks, by now you all should know what my answer to the posts above will be: please listen to notices from Microsoft and others, which essentially comes down to: wait until such and such feature update shows up on Windows Update on its own. Also, even though I’ll leave it up to our topics manager to do it, expect posts of this kind to be locked without notice."

On 11/28/2018 3:37 AM, Lisa P Geibel wrote:
Hi Gene or anyone else willing to help,

We've used this tool before, but since then, we've had to get a new computer and it has been lost. Can someone give me the site to get it from? Please and thanks.

Lisa P. Geibel
email:
 lisapgeibel429@gmail.com
Twitter:
LisaLisa429
Facebook:
m.facebook.com/ldporter1
Mine & Marcus's Christian and Messianic all purpose board:
917-259-1911 press option 4 for boards and then, choose board 364
My Talking TV board:
917-259-1911 press option 4 for boards and choose board 164
Marcus's Big Brother Board:
917-259-1922 press option 4 for boards and it's the only 1 there, board 265
May YHWH bless you all

On 11/28/2018 1:29 AM, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:

Hi

use the windows media creation tool to get it I already got a release of it today that way and now on doing a second machine.


Gene nz


On 28/11/2018 6:52 PM, Lisa P Geibel wrote:
Hi,

I'd heard this was released and there were some issues so it was pulled, then, I heard it was tested and sent out again. I looked and do not see that it is available for my husband and I in Windows Update. Was it in fact released and if so, does anyone know how we can force an install of it since it isn't showing up in Windows Update? We're currently using the latest stable release of NVDA and are running Windows 10 version 1803. We're using a Lenovo desk top computer if that makes a difference. We've had issues updating Windows in the past and that's why I'm asking here as we don't want to get too far behind if we can help it. Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks.
--
Image NVDA certified expert
Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.


Re: Is anyone having trouble with the kindel reading app?

Josh Kennedy
 

WHAT ABOUT BUYING BOOKS FROM WWW.BLIO.COM IN EPUB AND THEN CONVERTING THEM? 


Re: NVDA and Jarte

Dejan Ristic
 

Hi,


If I remember well, the screen reader mode activation is present in Jaws, which I used to switch on and off while using Jarte. As to NVDA, I do not think that such an option is built into it. When I installed Jarte for the first time when NVDA was running, I did nothing to set jarte to work with NVDA. The only thing NVDA does not read, is tables in Jarte as it does in Word and/or the browsers.

On 28/11/2018 06:34, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
I didn't have to do that either. When I opened jarte, it was already in
screen reader mode.



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sarah k
Alawami
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 8:48 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Jarte

I didn't have to do that. I just installed jarte free, then ran it,and
screen reader mode was enabled. This was as of January when I had to
reinstall windows.

On 27 Nov 2018, at 18:51, Andy wrote:

To invoke screen reader mode in jarte, open Notepad and write the
words enable screen reader mode, then copy this to the clipboard.
Then run jarte and copy this into an open document. Then close Jarte
and reopen it, and jarte will be in screen reader mode. This only
needs to be done once.

Andy

----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave" <dlh007@centurylink.net>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 6:00 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Jarte


I use the Purchased edition of Jarte', and I don't believe I had to
adjust anything inside of Jarte' or NVDA.

There may be a Screen Reader mode, but I think it switches itself on
after the second running of jarte'.

Jarte' is a great small Word Processor. I only wish we could easily
save and Read files in a later MS Word Format.

Grumpy Dave











Re: Reading Phone Numbers in Spanish

Matthew Horspool
 

Hi,

If you include a link to your website, we can check to see if the hyphen is encoded correctly and proceed as appropriate.

Matthew

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of bestuiexperience
Sent: 28 November 2018 02:36
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Reading Phone Numbers in Spanish

 

Hello, Someone who was testing our site with NVDA in Spanish was using eSpeak to test, and said that a phone number that was written in this format (111-111-1111) was reading the dashes as minus signs. However witht eh Vocalizer Expressive Voices (using JAWS), the phone number read our correctly. Could this be an issue of how the "-" symbol was typed in the HTML page? Or is this just a limitation of eSpeak? What can be done to get the number ead out properly?


Re: Windows 10 version 1809?

Lisa P Geibel
 

Hi Gene or anyone else willing to help,

We've used this tool before, but since then, we've had to get a new computer and it has been lost. Can someone give me the site to get it from? Please and thanks.

Lisa P. Geibel
email:
lisapgeibel429@gmail.com
Twitter:
LisaLisa429
Facebook:
m.facebook.com/ldporter1
Mine & Marcus's Christian and Messianic all purpose board:
917-259-1911 press option 4 for boards and then, choose board 364
My Talking TV board:
917-259-1911 press option 4 for boards and choose board 164
Marcus's Big Brother Board:
917-259-1922 press option 4 for boards and it's the only 1 there, board 265
May YHWH bless you all

On 11/28/2018 1:29 AM, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:

Hi

use the windows media creation tool to get it I already got a release of it today that way and now on doing a second machine.


Gene nz


On 28/11/2018 6:52 PM, Lisa P Geibel wrote:
Hi,

I'd heard this was released and there were some issues so it was pulled, then, I heard it was tested and sent out again. I looked and do not see that it is available for my husband and I in Windows Update. Was it in fact released and if so, does anyone know how we can force an install of it since it isn't showing up in Windows Update? We're currently using the latest stable release of NVDA and are running Windows 10 version 1803. We're using a Lenovo desk top computer if that makes a difference. We've had issues updating Windows in the past and that's why I'm asking here as we don't want to get too far behind if we can help it. Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks.
--
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Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.


NVDA helper remote injection

Ján Kulik
 

Hello everyone, I do not know like you, but I have the impression that sometimes I get the error message when I want to reboot NVDA: Error waiting for local thread to die, already dead or not responding. Please do something to do this so that these errors do not happen again. well thank you.


Re: Outlook saying blank

Mark <mark@...>
 

Hi no they’re are blank lines in the email but if I use read to end there not there
Mark



On 28 Nov 2018, at 01:50, Quentin Christensen <quentin@...> wrote:

Is it not reading text that is there, or do you mean there are blank lines in the email you are reading?

If it's just that there are blank lines in the email, pressing NVDA+down arrow (or in laptop layout press NVDA+a) asks NVDA to read from the current point onwards and it will then read the text without all the blank lines.

On Wed, Nov 28, 2018 at 12:19 PM Mark <mark@...> wrote:
Hi if I use my errow down to read a email it keeps saying blankBlank as I errow down
Is there a way of stopping this
Mark.






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Training and Support Manager

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

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knfb reader

Isaac <bigikemusic@...>
 

Hi, is there a fix coming for android pie?


Re: Windows 10 version 1809?

Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Group,


I got the upgrade a few days ago. I got the original back in September and had no issues, but when the talk of the fix came out, I simply went to the Windows Update item under control panel and chose to check manually and it was there and downloaded and installed and rebooted.


On 11/28/2018 1:29 AM, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:

Hi

use the windows media creation tool to get it I already got a release of it today that way and now on doing a second machine.


Gene nz


On 28/11/2018 6:52 PM, Lisa P Geibel wrote:
Hi,

I'd heard this was released and there were some issues so it was pulled, then, I heard it was tested and sent out again. I looked and do not see that it is available for my husband and I in Windows Update. Was it in fact released and if so, does anyone know how we can force an install of it since it isn't showing up in Windows Update? We're currently using the latest stable release of NVDA and are running Windows 10 version 1803. We're using a Lenovo desk top computer if that makes a difference. We've had issues updating Windows in the past and that's why I'm asking here as we don't want to get too far behind if we can help it. Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks.

--
Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.
-- 
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


In-Process for November 28

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi everyone,

In-Process is now available.  Featuring information on NVDA 2018.4, the beta process, and our visit to Jakarta.  Available here: https://www.nvaccess.org/post/in-process-28th-november-2018/

Regards

Quentin.
--
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Training and Support Manager

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 


Re: Windows 10 version 1809?

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi

use the windows media creation tool to get it I already got a release of it today that way and now on doing a second machine.


Gene nz


On 28/11/2018 6:52 PM, Lisa P Geibel wrote:
Hi,

I'd heard this was released and there were some issues so it was pulled, then, I heard it was tested and sent out again. I looked and do not see that it is available for my husband and I in Windows Update. Was it in fact released and if so, does anyone know how we can force an install of it since it isn't showing up in Windows Update? We're currently using the latest stable release of NVDA and are running Windows 10 version 1803. We're using a Lenovo desk top computer if that makes a difference. We've had issues updating Windows in the past and that's why I'm asking here as we don't want to get too far behind if we can help it. Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks.

--
Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.


Re: Windows 10 version 1809?

 

Well right now you may still not have it due to upgrade blocks.

If you use icloud, update it, if you use trend micro osftware then you will need to make sure its updated.

Microsoft is testing an update that fixes 3 more issues with its software so when that comes out then maybe.

Finally if you use an old amd hd series video card, and if you want the upgrade now pull it out, chuck it and buy another one or simply just use internal card, a friend had to do that.

On 11/28/2018 6:52 PM, Lisa P Geibel wrote:
Hi,

I'd heard this was released and there were some issues so it was pulled, then, I heard it was tested and sent out again. I looked and do not see that it is available for my husband and I in Windows Update. Was it in fact released and if so, does anyone know how we can force an install of it since it isn't showing up in Windows Update? We're currently using the latest stable release of NVDA and are running Windows 10 version 1803. We're using a Lenovo desk top computer if that makes a difference. We've had issues updating Windows in the past and that's why I'm asking here as we don't want to get too far behind if we can help it. Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks.


Re: Is anyone having trouble with the kindel reading app?

Annette Moore
 

Oh, that's right! I forgot all about that! I do use an older version of Kindle for PC for that reason.

Annette

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On 11/28/18, Travis Siegel <tsiegel@softcon.com> wrote:
Codex doesn't work for me, I've tried it, and it was able to convert a
whole 5 out of the hundred plus books I have with kindle.  See, this is
precisely why I can't stand proprietary formats.  If I cold download the
books in epub or something, it would be a trivial matter to find another
epub reader, or (as I do now), simply extract them, and read them in my
web browser, but no, every time Amazon, Kobo, Nook, or some other big
company who claims they know best breaks something, I'm stuck unable to
read my books on that platform until enough complaints come in to the
proper department that things finally get fixed (if ever).  Very
irritating.  I love my ebooks, and I have quite the collection, but I
absolutely hate proprietary formats, for exactly this reason. *growl*


On 11/27/2018 7:57 PM, Annette Moore wrote:
You could always use QRead. I've only used Kindle for PC to actually
read a book once or twice, and that was before I purchased QRead. the
only thing I do now with Kindle for PC is to open the program so the
book can be downloaded or recognized there or whatever it does, then I
convert the book with a program called Codex. It's a couple of extra
steps, but it works. that's annoying, though, I know, for a program to
have worked properly one day, and the next for it to just flop on you.
Hope you can find some answers and a resolution.

Annette

On 11/27/2018 3:14 PM, Travis Siegel wrote:
Yesterday, the kindle app suddenly became nearly unusable.  It only
reads a paragraph or so at a time before going busy when in read all
mode, and if I try reading line by line with the arrow keys, the same
thing happens, only at random intervals, and although eventually, the
app does begin responding again, sometimes, it takes more than a
minute to do so.  Absolutely nothing has changed on my machine
between the day before yesterday when it worked just fine, and
yesterday when it started behaving like this.  I'm guessing kindle
did an update (as it tends to do from time to time without telling
anyone it's going to do so), and that's the cause of the troubles,
but I'd be curious if anyone else is experiencing this problem.  I
use kindle unlimited to read a lot of my books, so this is a major
show stopper for me.  I can of course use the IOS version of the app,
and read the books that way, but sometimes I just want to use the
computer for convenience.








Re: Is anyone having trouble with the kindel reading app?

 

What about trying google books.

Now I must warn you you will need adobe digital additions to initially decode the epub file but once thats done codex should be able to unscramble that one.

On 11/28/2018 3:32 PM, Travis Siegel wrote:
Codex doesn't work for me, I've tried it, and it was able to convert a whole 5 out of the hundred plus books I have with kindle.  See, this is precisely why I can't stand proprietary formats.  If I cold download the books in epub or something, it would be a trivial matter to find another epub reader, or (as I do now), simply extract them, and read them in my web browser, but no, every time Amazon, Kobo, Nook, or some other big company who claims they know best breaks something, I'm stuck unable to read my books on that platform until enough complaints come in to the proper department that things finally get fixed (if ever).  Very irritating.  I love my ebooks, and I have quite the collection, but I absolutely hate proprietary formats, for exactly this reason. *growl*


On 11/27/2018 7:57 PM, Annette Moore wrote:
You could always use QRead. I've only used Kindle for PC to actually read a book once or twice, and that was before I purchased QRead. the only thing I do now with Kindle for PC is to open the program so the book can be downloaded or recognized there or whatever it does, then I convert the book with a program called Codex. It's a couple of extra steps, but it works. that's annoying, though, I know, for a program to have worked properly one day, and the next for it to just flop on you. Hope you can find some answers and a resolution.

Annette

On 11/27/2018 3:14 PM, Travis Siegel wrote:
Yesterday, the kindle app suddenly became nearly unusable.  It only reads a paragraph or so at a time before going busy when in read all mode, and if I try reading line by line with the arrow keys, the same thing happens, only at random intervals, and although eventually, the app does begin responding again, sometimes, it takes more than a minute to do so.  Absolutely nothing has changed on my machine between the day before yesterday when it worked just fine, and yesterday when it started behaving like this.  I'm guessing kindle did an update (as it tends to do from time to time without telling anyone it's going to do so), and that's the cause of the troubles, but I'd be curious if anyone else is experiencing this problem.  I use kindle unlimited to read a lot of my books, so this is a major show stopper for me.  I can of course use the IOS version of the app, and read the books that way, but sometimes I just want to use the computer for convenience.









Re: Is anyone having trouble with the kindel reading app?

Annette Moore
 

Oh, bummer! I'm so sorry Codex doesn't work well for you. So far, it's converted almost everything I've attempted to convert with it. I have Epub as my default file type and it's worked great. The only file I couldn't get it to convert was a PDF file, but it was one of those graphic text things. As far as I can tell, you can't convert more than one file at a time, or I haven't been able to anyway.

Annette

On 11/27/2018 8:32 PM, Travis Siegel wrote:
Codex doesn't work for me, I've tried it, and it was able to convert a whole 5 out of the hundred plus books I have with kindle.  See, this is precisely why I can't stand proprietary formats.  If I cold download the books in epub or something, it would be a trivial matter to find another epub reader, or (as I do now), simply extract them, and read them in my web browser, but no, every time Amazon, Kobo, Nook, or some other big company who claims they know best breaks something, I'm stuck unable to read my books on that platform until enough complaints come in to the proper department that things finally get fixed (if ever).  Very irritating.  I love my ebooks, and I have quite the collection, but I absolutely hate proprietary formats, for exactly this reason. *growl*


On 11/27/2018 7:57 PM, Annette Moore wrote:
You could always use QRead. I've only used Kindle for PC to actually read a book once or twice, and that was before I purchased QRead. the only thing I do now with Kindle for PC is to open the program so the book can be downloaded or recognized there or whatever it does, then I convert the book with a program called Codex. It's a couple of extra steps, but it works. that's annoying, though, I know, for a program to have worked properly one day, and the next for it to just flop on you. Hope you can find some answers and a resolution.

Annette

On 11/27/2018 3:14 PM, Travis Siegel wrote:
Yesterday, the kindle app suddenly became nearly unusable.  It only reads a paragraph or so at a time before going busy when in read all mode, and if I try reading line by line with the arrow keys, the same thing happens, only at random intervals, and although eventually, the app does begin responding again, sometimes, it takes more than a minute to do so.  Absolutely nothing has changed on my machine between the day before yesterday when it worked just fine, and yesterday when it started behaving like this.  I'm guessing kindle did an update (as it tends to do from time to time without telling anyone it's going to do so), and that's the cause of the troubles, but I'd be curious if anyone else is experiencing this problem.  I use kindle unlimited to read a lot of my books, so this is a major show stopper for me.  I can of course use the IOS version of the app, and read the books that way, but sometimes I just want to use the computer for convenience.








Re: ergent help needed with phonetic transcriptions

John Isige
 

Oh sure! You don't read it the same way at all. I'm just saying, you
should have characters, they should have names, so you get NVDA to read
out the names, probably if you go character by character because they'd
be a mess as words I'd think, and then you go through the same hell as
the sighted, associating each character with its sound. Other than
having a map of characters to names and having them read, there's really
nothing extra a blind person has to do over a sighted person. Besides
... how else are you going to learn about open and closed vowels in
Masai, I ask you?

On 11/27/2018 14:58, Brian Vogel wrote:
John, you wrote, in part: "There's nothing about sight that makes you
look at an 's'
with a mark under it and immediately go "ah yes, that's the 'sh' sound,
as in English 'ship"! You learn that when you learn the IPA."

Indeed, that is true.

You also wrote, "Now, maybe it's harder because nobody bothered to
name the IPA characters."

               Bingo, and the character names are just a mess.   I
think that most speakers of English get that "shingle", spelled s h i
n g l e, where each character has a single syllable name, much more
easily than Esh, small capital I, n, lowercase script g, l

               I certainly never looked at the word shingle,
phonetically transcribed, and ever thought about the characters in the
way I do when reading text.  Perhaps I'm odd.  But I would no sooner
condemn someone to work with phonetic transcription who's blind, and
expect ease and proficiency, than I'd expect them to fly to the moon
using their arms as propulsion.  And I'll be the first to admit that
there are plenty of sighted who never get the hang of the IPA,
either.  And heaven forbid you're going to deal with phonetics across
languages, some of which take forever [if ever] to retrain the ear to
even hear (or the brain to process) when those are not linguistically
significant sounds in your first language, then having to put those
down on paper in the IPA! Thanks, but no thanks.

               But, to each his or her own.  Some people like
challenges that I'd sooner avoid.
--

Brian *-*Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763

*/A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the
need for illusion is deep./*

          ~ Saul Bellow, /To Jerusalem and Back/


Windows 10 version 1809?

Lisa P Geibel
 

Hi,

I'd heard this was released and there were some issues so it was pulled, then, I heard it was tested and sent out again. I looked and do not see that it is available for my husband and I in Windows Update. Was it in fact released and if so, does anyone know how we can force an install of it since it isn't showing up in Windows Update? We're currently using the latest stable release of NVDA and are running Windows 10 version 1803. We're using a Lenovo desk top computer if that makes a difference. We've had issues updating Windows in the past and that's why I'm asking here as we don't want to get too far behind if we can help it. Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks.

--
Lisa P. Geibel
email:
lisapgeibel429@gmail.com
Twitter:
LisaLisa429
Facebook:
m.facebook.com/ldporter1
Mine & Marcus's Christian and Messianic all purpose board:
917-259-1911 press option 4 for boards and then, choose board 364
My Talking TV board:
917-259-1911 press option 4 for boards and choose board 164
Marcus's Big Brother Board:
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Re: ergent help needed with phonetic transcriptions

Vlad Dragomir
 

Definitely. An alternative to naming them, would be describing them. I’m inventing one right now, as an example:

“x with dot above and horizontal line below”.

 

There’s nothing more sighted about this than the usual alphabet that we all know. The only difference is that there are much more letters; therefore, we need someone patient enough to go through all of them and give them either names or unique descriptions. Our screen readers either go through those symbols by being totally silent, or they read only the base-letter; not very helpful.

 

This might be difficult to understand for someone who never encountered IPA before, but it should be much easier to implement than, for example, music notation. I would never expect a screen reader to be able to read a musical score to me, although I do admit I would be more than happy to. On the other hand, IPA represents speech, like any other world alphabet. Therefore, I still can’t see where the big problem is.

 

A very good day to you all!

 

Vlad.


Re: NVDA and Jarte

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

I didn't have to do that either. When I opened jarte, it was already in
screen reader mode.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sarah k
Alawami
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 8:48 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Jarte

I didn't have to do that. I just installed jarte free, then ran it,and
screen reader mode was enabled. This was as of January when I had to
reinstall windows.

On 27 Nov 2018, at 18:51, Andy wrote:

To invoke screen reader mode in jarte, open Notepad and write the
words enable screen reader mode, then copy this to the clipboard.
Then run jarte and copy this into an open document. Then close Jarte
and reopen it, and jarte will be in screen reader mode. This only
needs to be done once.

Andy

----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave" <dlh007@centurylink.net>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 6:00 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Jarte


I use the Purchased edition of Jarte', and I don't believe I had to
adjust anything inside of Jarte' or NVDA.

There may be a Screen Reader mode, but I think it switches itself on
after the second running of jarte'.

Jarte' is a great small Word Processor. I only wish we could easily
save and Read files in a later MS Word Format.

Grumpy Dave








Re: Outlook saying blank

Quentin Christensen
 

Is it not reading text that is there, or do you mean there are blank lines in the email you are reading?

If it's just that there are blank lines in the email, pressing NVDA+down arrow (or in laptop layout press NVDA+a) asks NVDA to read from the current point onwards and it will then read the text without all the blank lines.

On Wed, Nov 28, 2018 at 12:19 PM Mark <mark@...> wrote:
Hi if I use my errow down to read a email it keeps saying blankBlank as I errow down
Is there a way of stopping this
Mark.






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