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Re: ccleaner servey

Tyler Wood
 

Hi,

What settings are recommended for the .ini file?

thanks

On 2018-11-29 12:25 p.m., Shaun Everiss wrote:
Hi all.

For those that subscribe via email to cleaner news they have a servey with the latest version update and I strongly recomend you take it.

I have completed it with the issues of. 1.  accessibility to all features, quickclean, and interface issues.

and 2.  the fact that some settings can not be got to and that some settings if changed are not honored at all and reverted like quickclean stuff.

Why they choose to do this now is beyond me but they are doing it so.





ccleaner servey

 

Hi all.

For those that subscribe via email to cleaner news they have a servey with the latest version update and I strongly recomend you take it.

I have completed it with the issues of. 1.  accessibility to all features, quickclean, and interface issues.

and 2.  the fact that some settings can not be got to and that some settings if changed are not honored at all and reverted like quickclean stuff.

Why they choose to do this now is beyond me but they are doing it so.


NVDA and Word 2016

Don H
 

Running NVDA 2018-4 beta 2 on a win 10 computer and using Word 2016.
I am finding the use of the ribbon menues very workable. However one little annoying issue I am having is the repeat of entries in the menu.
For example if I go to the file menu and arrow down the entries it will say everything twice. It will say open open or save save etc. Is there some setting to fix this issue?


Re: A query I meant to post earlier about windows messages

 

hitting enter on that can help to open it however I don't always trust windowsaction/ notiffication centre.

For example, during a clock sync the power dropped off and the router died.

I got it back every thing was out of sync, windows was alegal, everything wouldn't  open and everything was screaming at me.

It was waterfox that alerted me to the fact everything was backwards and pointed me at my clock, which I changed.

Then everything worked.

But the messages stayed, and I had to tell action centre to ignore them till they died.

On a similar note, notifications can report a problem, but in a criptic way and after I have found and solved it.

I was upgrading one of my security/ backup  programs.

And immediately I got a notification that I was unsafe, recomending a full reset and reformat.

I was aware the thing was broken, and continued updating.

After this, I had to clear things.

I have had it say for example that I am using pirated windows, and my accounts are not signing in and that a whole host of things are screwed and that I should reset or something.

Yet when I have logged into where I need to go to check, not only are they not showing no problems but checking on the server side shows that they never existed.

Or existed for such a little time it didn't matter.

The only time that its ever really worked was when I was updating a business server for my uncle and the system kept crashing, at that time, windows put up the usual video card issue with the drivers crashing out.

A small note put that it was a bug with the driver, and to open a website for instructions, where I found the manufacturer had added to the action note that I needed a new driver and got a direct link to it.

But that was before things got weird.

Now, I do glance at notifications centre just like I would glance at the paper, but 99.9% of the time I just clear them, in most cases its fixed, not a problem or if it is, I can handle it without any issue.

On 11/29/2018 10:56 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
In Windows 7, sometimes in the tray icons is one saying you have one message, basically some kind of problem report. I seldom seem to notice it till then, so one might be forgiven for thinking that invoking the context menu and selecting the open for the  centre might just give a clue to what it is.
However normally this opens a screen with things like troubleshooting, security, maintenance etc, and seems to have no obvious way to simply view that message.
Am I missing something obvious?
So if there is a quick way to just  get to that message wherever it is and read it it would be great. It normally tends to be something like Backup issues or some odd  crash of explorer or some such, but one can never find the actual text until you accidentally resolve it  by guesswork and then you can see it in the old archive. Its a bit pointless then!

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Re: Another problem.

Tyler Wood
 

I have never seen a popup since I started using chrome paired with UBlock origin.

Anyone who thinks their data is 100% safe is deceiving themselves. You can try to make it so, but things get out eventually. I'd rather use google over facebook any day, though.


Mozilla used to be really nice. Now I have no idea what they've went and done but my experience is rarely good.

On 2018-11-29 11:37 a.m., Shaun Everiss wrote:
Yeah, the only thing I accept is google and thats mainly because most of it is free.

They do charge for their devices, some services for home and business like translation and business mail and their platform, and their wifi networking stuff but thats that.

Again they could be fore annoying than they are but its all free at least most of it is.



On 11/29/2018 10:33 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
One common add in that has become a pest is the ask toolbar, as it is a kind of go between, IE everything you do is sent to them and adverts inserted back to you. Like many originally useful ideas, its become so associated with rubbish adverts that its virtually useless. Indeed sometimes it is installed without asking and has no removal system other than using an anti malware program.
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene" <gsasner@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 10:45 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Another problem.


You said once before that that is the only browser that happens in.  What home page are you using?  Do you have Chrome to only show the home page or to show other pages?

Also, you didn't say whether you see popups on other sites that you don't see when using other browsers.  I suspect Chrome has some sort of adware.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: MAX
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 3:09 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Another problem.


I'm running Malware Bytes and I am not signed into Google.





73 (Regards).



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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 12:38 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Another problem.



Are you signed into Chrome?  I don't know if that makes a difference.  I'm not signed in to Chrome with the Chrome browser and I get no ads.  Also, I'm suspicious that that is adware. Are you running any sort of antimalware programs?



Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: MAX

Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 12:08 PM

To: NVDA

Subject: [nvda] Another problem.



Switching to Google chrome solved my problem with the help file but I am
now getting pop up ads whenever chrome opens.  Is there any way to turn
them off?


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Re: Another problem.

 

Yeah, the only thing I accept is google and thats mainly because most of it is free.

They do charge for their devices, some services for home and business like translation and business mail and their platform, and their wifi networking stuff but thats that.

Again they could be fore annoying than they are but its all free at least most of it is.

On 11/29/2018 10:33 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
One common add in that has become a pest is the ask toolbar, as it is a kind of go between, IE everything you do is sent to them and adverts inserted back to you. Like many originally useful ideas, its become so associated with rubbish adverts that its virtually useless. Indeed sometimes it is installed without asking and has no removal system other than using an anti malware program.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene" <gsasner@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 10:45 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Another problem.


You said once before that that is the only browser that happens in.  What home page are you using?  Do you have Chrome to only show the home page or to show other pages?

Also, you didn't say whether you see popups on other sites that you don't see when using other browsers.  I suspect Chrome has some sort of adware.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: MAX
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 3:09 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Another problem.


I'm running Malware Bytes and I am not signed into Google.





73 (Regards).



Max K 4 O D S.



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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 12:38 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Another problem.



Are you signed into Chrome?  I don't know if that makes a difference.  I'm not signed in to Chrome with the Chrome browser and I get no ads.  Also, I'm suspicious that that is adware.  Are you running any sort of antimalware programs?



Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: MAX

Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 12:08 PM

To: NVDA

Subject: [nvda] Another problem.



Switching to Google chrome solved my problem with the help file but I am
now getting pop up ads whenever chrome opens.  Is there any way to turn
them off?


73 (Regards).

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Re: Another problem.

 

Well you can turn this off but it will turn itself back on quickclean to.

There is another update which includes updates settings that people should check right now they are all on and there is no new modified ini file or a reason to update the current one.

It also states for home use.

To be fair, and this is the reason I still use it, bar the interface, and the addvertisments and the like, its only ever done that for itself, no spyware as far as I know bar google and google is everywhere, and avast, which sucks but they are owned by them so I guess they have to.

Take all that out of the way, they could have restricted the program a lot more than they can.

The only thing you don't have is full background automatic control, and you used to have update but aparently the program will automatically update itself to for home users, it also states for home users only which is a bit of a mouthfull but at least its being clear about it now.

On 11/29/2018 10:29 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
Well for example Ccleaner portable seems to be able to put up a pane randomly now advertising itself as on special offer. Looking at the .ini file you need to stop any vestiges of it running at start up. You only need to have run it once and it will insert itself silently, but as I say it can be disabled.
I do not blame companies for doing this but the problem for us is often that the splash screens are apparently blank being mainly pictures.
Its by no means the only bit of software I've found like this.

I'm still wondering though what your original issue was with apparently missing files or the display of them on his machine.
I notice that superantispyware the free version is now able to spot things inserting themselves as 'invisible' start up items, and stop them from doing it. Its a lot easier than using autoruns to look for strings in the start up registry entries.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene" <gsasner@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 10:48 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Another problem.


That's more evidence supporting the possibility of adware.  I don't know if ad blockers block ads from adware but I think you should investigate further.  Other list members will likely discuss other programs to run to see if you have adware.  I haven't used enough to discuss the subject much.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: MAX
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 3:28 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Another problem.


Thank you Brian.



I now have it installed, I think, and time will tell if it is and it works. I get ads when I click on a link in an email message. So I’ll have to wait for one to test it.





73 (Regards).



Max K 4 O D S.



I've Never Lost the Wonder.



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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 12:34 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Another problem.



Get an ad blocker extension.  My preferred one is uBlock Origin.


Re: Another problem.

Tyler Spivey
 

What do the pop-ups say, and what site are you on?
Maybe that site has pop-up ads.

On 11/29/2018 8:54 AM, MAX wrote:
I found superantispyware and downloaded the free version but I think it didn't install automatically. I can't find the file in my downloads folder. Do you know what it is called?


73 (Regards).

Max K 4 O D S.

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Antique Electronics Site: http://www.angelfire.com/electronic/funwithtubes/


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2018 3:30 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Another problem.

Well for example Ccleaner portable seems to be able to put up a pane randomly now advertising itself as on special offer. Looking at the .ini file you need to stop any vestiges of it running at start up. You only need to have run it once and it will insert itself silently, but as I say it can be disabled.
I do not blame companies for doing this but the problem for us is often that the splash screens are apparently blank being mainly pictures.
Its by no means the only bit of software I've found like this.

I'm still wondering though what your original issue was with apparently missing files or the display of them on his machine.
I notice that superantispyware the free version is now able to spot things inserting themselves as 'invisible' start up items, and stop them from doing it. Its a lot easier than using autoruns to look for strings in the start up registry entries.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 10:48 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Another problem.


That's more evidence supporting the possibility of adware. I don't know if
ad blockers block ads from adware but I think you should investigate
further. Other list members will likely discuss other programs to run to
see if you have adware. I haven't used enough to discuss the subject much.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: MAX
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 3:28 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Another problem.


Thank you Brian.



I now have it installed, I think, and time will tell if it is and it works.
I get ads when I click on a link in an email message. So I’ll have to wait
for one to test it.





73 (Regards).



Max K 4 O D S.



I've Never Lost the Wonder.



Antique Electronics Site: http://www.angelfire.com/electronic/funwithtubes/





From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian
Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 12:34 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Another problem.



Get an ad blocker extension. My preferred one is uBlock Origin.


Re: Another problem.

MAX <max@...>
 

I found superantispyware and downloaded the free version but I think it didn't install automatically. I can't find the file in my downloads folder. Do you know what it is called?


73 (Regards).

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Antique Electronics Site: http://www.angelfire.com/electronic/funwithtubes/

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2018 3:30 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Another problem.

Well for example Ccleaner portable seems to be able to put up a pane randomly now advertising itself as on special offer. Looking at the .ini file you need to stop any vestiges of it running at start up. You only need to have run it once and it will insert itself silently, but as I say it can be disabled.
I do not blame companies for doing this but the problem for us is often that the splash screens are apparently blank being mainly pictures.
Its by no means the only bit of software I've found like this.

I'm still wondering though what your original issue was with apparently missing files or the display of them on his machine.
I notice that superantispyware the free version is now able to spot things inserting themselves as 'invisible' start up items, and stop them from doing it. Its a lot easier than using autoruns to look for strings in the start up registry entries.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 10:48 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Another problem.


That's more evidence supporting the possibility of adware. I don't know if
ad blockers block ads from adware but I think you should investigate
further. Other list members will likely discuss other programs to run to
see if you have adware. I haven't used enough to discuss the subject much.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: MAX
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 3:28 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Another problem.


Thank you Brian.



I now have it installed, I think, and time will tell if it is and it works.
I get ads when I click on a link in an email message. So I’ll have to wait
for one to test it.





73 (Regards).



Max K 4 O D S.



I've Never Lost the Wonder.



Antique Electronics Site: http://www.angelfire.com/electronic/funwithtubes/





From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian
Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 12:34 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Another problem.



Get an ad blocker extension. My preferred one is uBlock Origin.
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A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for
illusion is deep.

~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back


Re: Another problem.

MAX <max@...>
 

I have the full professional version of Malware bytes.


73 (Regards).

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-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brice
Mijares
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2018 10:39 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Another problem.

Max, have you tried malwarebytes?

On 11/29/2018 7:55 AM, MAX wrote:
Just after I send this message I opened chrome and a pop up appeared
on my favorites file. �So much for that pop up blocker.

73 (Regards).

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*From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] *On Behalf Of
*MAX
*Sent:* Wednesday, November 28, 2018 7:44 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Another problem.

No I haven�t seen popups on my favorites file.� I had to go to an
internet site before it happened.

73 (Regards).

Max K 4 O D S.

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Antique Electronics Site:
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*From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] *On Behalf Of *Gene
*Sent:* Wednesday, November 28, 2018 7:28 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Another problem.

If you see popups on that page, unless you have Chrome set in some way
I am unfamiliar with, I'd say that's almost definite evidence of malware.

Gene

----- Original Message -----

*From:*MAX <mailto:max@maxsmusicplace.com>

*Sent:*Wednesday, November 28, 2018 7:19 PM

*To:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

*Subject:*Re: [nvda] Another problem.

My home page is a file on my own computer that is my favorites.� I
originally did it with MS internet explorer.� It has an export
function.� If newer browsers have that function you can export your
favorites to a file and then make that your home page.� I have kept
MS IE on my desktop so I can update that file.� Edge, Chrome, and
Firefox can read it.� As far as I know they can�t wright it.

73 (Regards).

Max K 4 O D S.

I've Never Lost the Wonder.

Antique Electronics Site:
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*From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] *On Behalf Of *Gene
*Sent:* Wednesday, November 28, 2018 4:46 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Another problem.

You said once before that that is the only browser that happens in.
What home page are you using?� Do you have Chrome to only show the
home page or to show other pages?

Also, you didn't say whether you see popups on other sites that you
don't see when using other browsers.� I suspect Chrome has some sort
of adware.

Gene

----- Original Message -----

*From:*MAX <mailto:max@maxsmusicplace.com>

*Sent:*Wednesday, November 28, 2018 3:09 PM

*To:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

*Subject:*Re: [nvda] Another problem.

I�m running Malware Bytes and I am not signed into Google.

73 (Regards).

Max K 4 O D S.

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Antique Electronics Site:
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*From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] *On Behalf Of *Gene
*Sent:* Wednesday, November 28, 2018 12:38 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Another problem.

Are you signed into Chrome?� I don't know if that makes a difference.
I'm not signed in to Chrome with the Chrome browser and I get no ads.
Also, I'm suspicious that that is adware.� Are you running any sort
of antimalware programs?

Gene

----- Original Message -----

*From:*MAX <mailto:max@maxsmusicplace.com>

*Sent:*Wednesday, November 28, 2018 12:08 PM

*To:*NVDA <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

*Subject:*[nvda] Another problem.

Switching to Google chrome solved my problem with the help file but I
am now getting pop up ads whenever chrome opens.� Is there any way
to turn them off?


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Re: Another problem.

Brice Mijares
 

Max, have you tried malwarebytes?

On 11/29/2018 7:55 AM, MAX wrote:
Just after I send this message I opened chrome and a pop up appeared on my favorites file. �So much for that pop up blocker.
73 (Regards).
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Antique Electronics Site: http://www.angelfire.com/electronic/funwithtubes/
*From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] *On Behalf Of *MAX
*Sent:* Wednesday, November 28, 2018 7:44 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Another problem.
No I haven�t seen popups on my favorites file.� I had to go to an internet site before it happened.
73 (Regards).
Max K 4 O D S.
I've Never Lost the Wonder.
Antique Electronics Site: http://www.angelfire.com/electronic/funwithtubes/
*From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] *On Behalf Of *Gene
*Sent:* Wednesday, November 28, 2018 7:28 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Another problem.
If you see popups on that page, unless you have Chrome set in some way I am unfamiliar with, I'd say that's almost definite evidence of malware.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
*From:*MAX <mailto:max@maxsmusicplace.com>
*Sent:*Wednesday, November 28, 2018 7:19 PM
*To:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:*Re: [nvda] Another problem.
My home page is a file on my own computer that is my favorites.� I originally did it with MS internet explorer.� It has an export function.� If newer browsers have that function you can export your favorites to a file and then make that your home page.� I have kept MS IE on my desktop so I can update that file.� Edge, Chrome, and Firefox can read it.� As far as I know they can�t wright it.
73 (Regards).
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*From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] *On Behalf Of *Gene
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*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Another problem.
You said once before that that is the only browser that happens in. What home page are you using?� Do you have Chrome to only show the home page or to show other pages?
Also, you didn't say whether you see popups on other sites that you don't see when using other browsers.� I suspect Chrome has some sort of adware.
Gene
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*Sent:*Wednesday, November 28, 2018 3:09 PM
*To:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:*Re: [nvda] Another problem.
I�m running Malware Bytes and I am not signed into Google.
73 (Regards).
Max K 4 O D S.
I've Never Lost the Wonder.
Antique Electronics Site: http://www.angelfire.com/electronic/funwithtubes/
*From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] *On Behalf Of *Gene
*Sent:* Wednesday, November 28, 2018 12:38 PM
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*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Another problem.
Are you signed into Chrome?� I don't know if that makes a difference. I'm not signed in to Chrome with the Chrome browser and I get no ads. Also, I'm suspicious that that is adware.� Are you running any sort of antimalware programs?
Gene
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*Sent:*Wednesday, November 28, 2018 12:08 PM
*To:*NVDA <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:*[nvda] Another problem.
Switching to Google chrome solved my problem with the help file but I am
now getting pop up ads whenever chrome opens.� Is there any way to turn
them off?
73 (Regards).
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Re: Adding additional language to nvda

 

Just for the sake of clarity (at least for me), is the request for Sanskrit support in NVDA aimed at :

1.  Reading of materials written in Sanskrit.
2.  Having NVDA controls, dialogs, etc., translated to Sanskrit
3.  Both?

My interpretation of the original request, based on how it is worded, was #1 and only #1.   The extent of what's being asked for has a huge impact on how long it would take to implement, or even whether implementation is practical, in the foreseeable future.

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          ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back

 

 


Re: Adding additional language to nvda

Matthew Horspool
 

Hi Narayan,

Just to add to what Joseph has already said, there are basically two elements to getting NVDA in a new language:

1.      NVDA itself: for example, its menus, dialog boxes, error messages and so on. These all need to be translated into Sanskrit.

2.     NVDA's voice, or accent if you prefer: this is called a speech synthesizer. The speech synthesizer that ships with NVDA is called ESpeak and can speak many different languages, but it may not be able to speak Sanskrit. Therefore, although you might find all the error messages are correctly written in the Sanskrit language, ESpeak will try and speak them in an English accent, which could cause all sorts of pronunciation problems. This is for the ESpeak team to solve, not NVDA. However, in the meantime, an alternative speech synthesizer that does speak Sanskrit could be researched and a driver created for it.

One more point – could you please confirm whether Sanskrit is written left-to-right or right-to-left? English is written left-to-right. I don't know how well NVDA copes with right-to-left languages and it may be a more complicated matter than simply re-writing all the messages. Someone who has extensive knowledge of both right-to-left languages and technology would be better placed to deal with this particular issue more thoroughly.

Best wishes,

Matthew

 

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Narayan
Sent: 29 November 2018 04:00
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Adding additional language to nvda

 

Hi friends, I want to tell something about sanskrit language in this group. sanskrit is very popular and ancient language. it has very good pronouncing rules. its grammar is also very good and systematic in the old. my question is, how can i recommend to nvda developer team to add sanskrit language to NVDA screen reader? can anyone help me to achieve this job? any help would be gladly appreciated. thank you.

 

--

Shree

 

 

 


Re: Another problem.

MAX <max@...>
 

Just after I send this message I opened chrome and a pop up appeared on my favorites file.  So much for that pop up blocker.

 

 

73 (Regards).

 

Max K 4 O D S.

 

I've Never Lost the Wonder.

 

Antique Electronics Site: http://www.angelfire.com/electronic/funwithtubes/

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of MAX
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 7:44 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Another problem.

 

No I haven’t seen popups on my favorites file.  I had to go to an internet site before it happened.

 

 

73 (Regards).

 

Max K 4 O D S.

 

I've Never Lost the Wonder.

 

Antique Electronics Site: http://www.angelfire.com/electronic/funwithtubes/

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 7:28 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Another problem.

 

If you see popups on that page, unless you have Chrome set in some way I am unfamiliar with, I'd say that's almost definite evidence of malware.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: MAX

Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 7:19 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Another problem.

 

My home page is a file on my own computer that is my favorites.  I originally did it with MS internet explorer.  It has an export function.  If newer browsers have that function you can export your favorites to a file and then make that your home page.  I have kept MS IE on my desktop so I can update that file.  Edge, Chrome, and Firefox can read it.  As far as I know they can’t wright it.

 

 

73 (Regards).

 

Max K 4 O D S.

 

I've Never Lost the Wonder.

 

Antique Electronics Site: http://www.angelfire.com/electronic/funwithtubes/

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 4:46 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Another problem.

 

You said once before that that is the only browser that happens in.  What home page are you using?  Do you have Chrome to only show the home page or to show other pages? 

 

Also, you didn't say whether you see popups on other sites that you don't see when using other browsers.  I suspect Chrome has some sort of adware. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: MAX

Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 3:09 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Another problem.

 

I’m running Malware Bytes and I am not signed into Google.

 

 

73 (Regards).

 

Max K 4 O D S.

 

I've Never Lost the Wonder.

 

Antique Electronics Site: http://www.angelfire.com/electronic/funwithtubes/

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 12:38 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Another problem.

 

Are you signed into Chrome?  I don't know if that makes a difference.  I'm not signed in to Chrome with the Chrome browser and I get no ads.  Also, I'm suspicious that that is adware.  Are you running any sort of antimalware programs? 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: MAX

Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 12:08 PM

To: NVDA

Subject: [nvda] Another problem.

 

Switching to Google chrome solved my problem with the help file but I am
now getting pop up ads whenever chrome opens.  Is there any way to turn
them off?


73 (Regards).

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Re: Outlook 2016

kelby carlson
 

My personal laptop and my work tablet are both running Windows 10; I'm not sure if the builds are the same. I also have a work desktop computer which I am still setting up. When i used outlook on that computer just now, there was no sluggishness or unresponsiveness there either. So clearly it is a problem with the computer. I suppose it could be an NVDA problem, but the program was just installed last week and the settings I use are identical including ad-ons. So I guess this will be for my IT to figure out.


Re: Outlook 2016

 

Kelby,

           The behavior differences you've observed give a clear indication that the issue is specific to your work machine and that either NVDA, Office, or some setting is at play.  Since uninstalling and reinstalling both NVDA and MS-Office are very easy to do (or should be for your IT folks) that's the first thing I'd try.  Do one or the other first, see if that clears things up, then do the other if the first didn't get the hoped for result.

           Also, since you haven't mentioned it, are both machines running the same Windows release (e.g., 7, 8.1, 10) and, if Windows 10, the same version and build?
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A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

          ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back

 

 


Re: Outlook 2016

kelby carlson
 

I have been doing some further experimenting, and it looks like the dlowness is primarily on my work computer and not on my personal computer. I'm not sure why this would be. I am trying to look for possible accessibility settings to change. The essential problem is this: When I arrow through things like email NVDA will read me the first option or two, but will then pretty much stop responding in any way unless I tab into another app.


Re: NVDA and MS office

Don H
 

For those wanting to upgrade their Microsoft office I was able to get office home and student 2016 for $60.


Re: NVDA and MS office

molly the blind tech lover
 

hi. i have microsoft office 2016 and i also use it with NVDA. i love it so much 😀


On Wed, Nov 28, 2018, 9:01 PM Don H <lmddh50@... wrote:
        Having just upgraded from microsoft office 2003 to microsoft office
2016 I find NVDA much more responsive.





Re: i'm new to this list and have a strange issue with NVDA on the windows log on screen

molly the blind tech lover
 

hi. when i turn on the tablet i always attach the keyboard first. it's actually hard for me to use the touchscreen with NVDA. so i always attach the keyboard.


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It normally should. However if its purely touch screen, actually invoking
the keystroke to action the password entered can sometimes now  be obvious.
To be honest  I always suggest  use of a keyboard. Trying to ise Windows
purely on a touch screen is a short cut to the funny farm!
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Cohn, Jonathan" <jcohn@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 11:04 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] i'm new to this list and have a strange issue with NVDA
on the windows log on screen


> Hello Molly and welcome to the NVDA list,
>
> This might depend on your actual startup options. When full disk
> encryption is enabled on a computer, then the operating system is not
> fully running when the user name is being prompted for. I am more familiar
> with this on Macintosh computers, but I expect the same could be happening
> on Windows. So, even though a sighted person sees a login screen, not all
> the features available in the OS can be accessed until the startup disk
> key is enabled.
>
> To test this, try logging out of your system and seeing if NVDA then
> prompts you for login credentials.
>
>
> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of molly the
> blind tech lover
> Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 5:17 PM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: [nvda] i'm new to this list and have a strange issue with NVDA on
> the windows log on screen
> Importance: Low
>
>
> hey guys, my name is molly and this is my first time posting here. so i
> apologize if i type in the wrong email address and this message ends up
> somewhere else.
> anyway, i have been using NVDA for 2 years and love it. i seem to be
> having a strange issue with NVDA not starting at the log on screen even
> though i've set NVDA to start at the log on screen. on my newly purchased
> surface laptop, i have NVDA set to start at the log on screen, where i
> need to enter my pin. i turn on the machine, and i have speech on the log
> on screen, asking me to sign in. but when i enter my pin, all i hear is it
> saying * * * the screen doesn't unlock. i also don't hear speech when i
> swipe around on the touchscreen. this indicates that the log on screen is
> loading before NVDA is, i end up having to use Narrator to log on. this is
> strange. do you guys have any ideas as to why this is happening? any
> suggestions would be most appreciated.
> cheers
> molly
>
>
>
>
>