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Re: Strange proglem when exiting NVDA Portable Version.

Quentin Christensen
 

Which version of NVDA are you using?  If you are using 2018.3.2, if you create a portable version of 2018.4beta2, does that also crash on exit?

Are you using an add-ons or synthesizers?

If you could send me a copy of both the log and crash dump that NVDA creates, we can look further into those and see if there is anything there to help.

See https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/wiki/LogFilesAndCrashDumps for info on both the log file and crash dump files.

Regards

Quentin.


On Sat, Dec 1, 2018 at 4:29 AM <prem.translator@...> wrote:
Dear All,
I have two NVDAs in my laptop, one is the installed version, and the other is portable. The following is my situation.

When I run the installed version, there is no problem when pressed NVDA+q to exit. However, when I run the portable one, I cannot exit using the same command, NVDA will always restart itself. The only way to exit the portable version is to press CTRL+ALT+n to run the installed one. Below is the log containing the error.

Please help me,
Thank you.

"Exiting
CRITICAL - watchdog._crashHandler (00:10:27.492):
NVDA crashed! Minidump written to C:\Users\Pream\AppData\Local\Temp\nvda_crash.dmp
INFO - watchdog._crashHandler (00:10:28.474):
Python stack for thread 4840
Stack trace:
  File "threading.pyo", line 774, in __bootstrap
  File "threading.pyo", line 801, in __bootstrap_inner
  File "threading.pyo", line 754, in run
  File "_UIAHandler.pyo", line 227, in MTAThreadFunc
  File "threading.pyo", line 614, in wait
  File "threading.pyo", line 340, in wait
INFO - watchdog._crashHandler (00:10:28.474):
Python stack for thread 4828
Stack trace:
  File "threading.pyo", line 774, in __bootstrap
  File "threading.pyo", line 801, in __bootstrap_inner
  File "threading.pyo", line 754, in run
  File "braille.pyo", line 2101, in func
INFO - watchdog._crashHandler (00:10:28.474):
Python stack for thread 1020
Stack trace:
  File "threading.pyo", line 774, in __bootstrap
  File "threading.pyo", line 801, in __bootstrap_inner
  File "threading.pyo", line 754, in run
  File "winInputHook.pyo", line 70, in hookThreadFunc
INFO - watchdog._crashHandler (00:10:28.476):
Python stack for thread 4804
Stack trace:
  File "threading.pyo", line 774, in __bootstrap
  File "threading.pyo", line 801, in __bootstrap_inner
  File "synthDrivers\_espeak.pyo", line 152, in run
  File "Queue.pyo", line 168, in get
  File "threading.pyo", line 340, in wait
INFO - watchdog._crashHandler (00:10:28.476):
Python stack for thread 4296
Stack trace:
  File "nvda.pyw", line 214, in <module>
  File "core.pyo", line 516, in main
  File "core.pyo", line 562, in _terminate
  File "gui\__init__.pyo", line 553, in terminate
  File "wx\core.pyo", line 2134, in MainLoop
  File "watchdog.pyo", line 180, in _crashHandler
INFO - watchdog._crashHandler (00:10:28.476):
Restarting due to crash"



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Re: number pronunciation

 

See the topic: 

NVDA reading single numbers!  in the archive.

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number pronunciation

Robert Doc Wright godfearer
 

How do I get NVDA to say numbers as single characters? currently it speaks them as whole words.
 


Re: BETA2 DOESN'T READ TABLES IN PDF DOCUMENTS

Quentin Christensen
 

Just to be clear, I wasn't saying "It works fine, there's no problem", I was saying that NVDA can read (properly constructed) tables in PDF files in Adobe reader, and I double checked that with such a file in the latest version of Adobe Reader DC using NVDA 2018.4beta2.  I could still read such a file, therefore from what I can tell, it is likely an issue with the particular file being read, rather than, for instance, recent versions of NVDA no longer being able to read tables.

And yes, as Brian noted, you can't send attachments to the list - feel free to send it to me directly to info@...

Regards

Quentin.

On Sat, Dec 1, 2018 at 1:42 AM Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io <bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:
This is probably the age old issue of tagging reading order then. I am
really peed off with people saying it looks fine to us when I complain about
all words running together, being split mid word. a word per line or tables
that are scrambled or pages 1 and four then two and three reading in that
order. All of these seem to be due to the fact that since no reading order
is specified when it changes from normal basic right to left top to bottom
all sorts of chaos ensues when the  screenreader starts to read from the
change.
  Bah Humbug.
 Reading order should be forced on pdf makers or else.
 Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Quentin Christensen" <quentin@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2018 3:22 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] BETA2 DOESN'T READ TABLES IN PDF DOCUMENTS


I just tried with a file in Adobe Reader 2019.008.20081 and I can read and
navigate the table in this PDF file ok.

It is quite likely the way that the PDF file was made, which you'll likely
only know if you were the one who created it.

If you can email it to me, I can have a look, but short of recreating the
PDF from the original source, there's probably not a lot to do with an
existing file.

Regards

Quentin.

On Fri, Nov 30, 2018 at 12:19 PM Alexandre Alves Toco <
alexandretoco@...> wrote:

> Hi, opened a pdf that has a table in adobe reader.
>
> Same problem as 2018.3.2. Nvda doesn’t recognize the table.
>
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>
>
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> Enviado do Email <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> para
> Windows 10
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Re: Working with Cheats using NVDA in Project 64

abdul muhamin
 

N64 emulator is accessible, but I’m not sure about its cheat menu. I’ll try it and then let you know

 

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From: Tyler Wood
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2018 9:33 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Working with Cheats using NVDA in Project 64

 

It's a Nintendo 64 emulator.

 

 

Not sure how to help as I have no idea what the staff told the OP to do

and haven't gotten a response.

 

 

 

On 2018-11-30 8:25 a.m., Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:

> I have no idea what the software is, is it a commode 64 emulator grin....

> Brian

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> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tyler Wood" <tcwood12@...>

> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>

> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2018 10:54 PM

> Subject: Re: [nvda] Working with Cheats using NVDA in Project 64

>> Hi,

>> 

>> Considering we're not entirely sure what said instructions are, it's

>> pretty much impossible to help.

>> 

>> 

>> What have you tried? What is giving you issues?

>> 

>> 

>> On 2018-11-29 4:48 p.m., Analis Dannen wrote:

>>> Greetings

>>> This is Analis. I am having an issue using NVDA with Project 64

>>> emulator. I want to use cheats in a specific game, and cannot seem to

>>> figure out what to do. I have followed the instructions PJ64 game me,

>>> and cannot pull it off. Am I doing something wrong? Thank you!

>>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>

 

 

 


Re: NVDA cannot activate buttons and links

Gene
 

Is there a particular page or if we go to the home page will this happen on any links or buttons?  also, which browsers have you tried?
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2018 5:18 PM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA cannot activate buttons and links

Hi All,

Recently I have been unable to activate buttons and links on the www.infowars.com webpage.  Anyone encountering this?

Any suggestion is appreciated.

Blessings

Pascal

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2018 2:34 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I can't select radio buttons on a webpage using NVDA

 

Can you give us the address of the page so people can try it?

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Friday, November 30, 2018 10:45 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] I can't select radio buttons on a webpage using NVDA

 

Yes, I tried this ... no  luck ...


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On 11/30/2018 9:31 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
> Switch out of focus to browse mode first and then fiddle around with
> them. NVDA is notorious at not updating the states of radio buttons in
> a table on a web page. I['m pretty sure there was a debate if this was
> poor page authoring or not about 2 years ago?
> I encountered this recently on a health log in account creation site
> as well. I could not se my gender. It looked like I was both male and
> female. A medical miracle but on refreshing the page they seemed to 
> be changed but nvda did not say they had or got them both as  on.
>
> Brian
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> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sile via Groups.Io"
> <somodhrain@...>
> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2018 11:29 PM
> Subject: [nvda] I can't select radio buttons on a webpage using NVDA
>
>
>> Hello
>>
>>
>> Just wondering if anyone has run into this problem with NVDA. I am
>> trying to select radio buttons that are within a table (basically
>> ranking students on a scale from 1-5 on several criteria, with each
>> criterion being one row of radio buttons.)
>>
>>
>> It doesn't matter whether I use firefox or chrome, the radio buttons
>> don't seem to change state whether I hit spacebar or return, or
>> whether I am in edit mode or not.
>>
>>
>> Anyone got any ideas?
>>
>>
>> --Sile
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>


NVDA cannot activate buttons and links

Pascal Lambert <coccinelle86@...>
 

Hi All,

Recently I have been unable to activate buttons and links on the www.infowars.com webpage.  Anyone encountering this?

Any suggestion is appreciated.

Blessings

Pascal

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2018 2:34 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I can't select radio buttons on a webpage using NVDA

 

Can you give us the address of the page so people can try it?

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Friday, November 30, 2018 10:45 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] I can't select radio buttons on a webpage using NVDA

 

Yes, I tried this ... no  luck ...


--Sile

On 11/30/2018 9:31 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
> Switch out of focus to browse mode first and then fiddle around with
> them. NVDA is notorious at not updating the states of radio buttons in
> a table on a web page. I['m pretty sure there was a debate if this was
> poor page authoring or not about 2 years ago?
> I encountered this recently on a health log in account creation site
> as well. I could not se my gender. It looked like I was both male and
> female. A medical miracle but on refreshing the page they seemed to 
> be changed but nvda did not say they had or got them both as  on.
>
> Brian
>
> bglists@...
> Sent via blueyonder.
> Please address personal E-mail to:-
> briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
> in the display name field.
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sile via Groups.Io"
> <somodhrain@...>
> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2018 11:29 PM
> Subject: [nvda] I can't select radio buttons on a webpage using NVDA
>
>
>> Hello
>>
>>
>> Just wondering if anyone has run into this problem with NVDA. I am
>> trying to select radio buttons that are within a table (basically
>> ranking students on a scale from 1-5 on several criteria, with each
>> criterion being one row of radio buttons.)
>>
>>
>> It doesn't matter whether I use firefox or chrome, the radio buttons
>> don't seem to change state whether I hit spacebar or return, or
>> whether I am in edit mode or not.
>>
>>
>> Anyone got any ideas?
>>
>>
>> --Sile
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>


Re: I can't select radio buttons on a webpage using NVDA

Sile
 

Thats a bit tricky - it was a request for a letter of reference for a particular student that is generated by the system just for me :) all those horrible radio buttons, just for me :)


I might be able to get the graduate admissions people to generate a test application though,


--Sile

On 11/30/2018 2:33 PM, Gene wrote:
Can you give us the address of the page so people can try it?

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Sile via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2018 10:45 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I can't select radio buttons on a webpage using NVDA


Yes, I tried this ... no luck ...


--Sile

On 11/30/2018 9:31 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
Switch out of focus to browse mode first and then fiddle around with
them. NVDA is notorious at not updating the states of radio buttons in
a table on a web page. I['m pretty sure there was a debate if this was
poor page authoring or not about 2 years ago?
I encountered this recently on a health log in account creation site
as well. I could not se my gender. It looked like I was both male and
female. A medical miracle but on refreshing the page they seemed to
be changed but nvda did not say they had or got them both as on.

Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Sile via Groups.Io"
<somodhrain=googlemail.com@groups.io>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2018 11:29 PM
Subject: [nvda] I can't select radio buttons on a webpage using NVDA


Hello


Just wondering if anyone has run into this problem with NVDA. I am
trying to select radio buttons that are within a table (basically
ranking students on a scale from 1-5 on several criteria, with each
criterion being one row of radio buttons.)


It doesn't matter whether I use firefox or chrome, the radio buttons
don't seem to change state whether I hit spacebar or return, or
whether I am in edit mode or not.


Anyone got any ideas?


--Sile







Re: I can't select radio buttons on a webpage using NVDA

Jonathan COHN
 

Well, there are native radio buttons and pseudo radio buttons. If the Web page creator decided to not use the native HTML radio buttons, then they should be adding keyboard handlers and need to add an ARIA attribute to show which button is clicked. Also, most likely these buttons as you describe them will not work on mobile devices.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sile via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2018 6:30 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] I can't select radio buttons on a webpage using NVDA
Importance: Low

Hello


Just wondering if anyone has run into this problem with NVDA.  I am trying to select radio buttons that are within a table (basically ranking students on a scale from 1-5 on several criteria, with each criterion being one row of radio buttons.)


It doesn't matter whether I use firefox or chrome, the radio buttons don't seem to change state whether I hit spacebar or return, or whether I am in edit mode or not.


Anyone got any ideas?


--Sile


Re: Reading Charts

Stephen Costigan
 

Hi All,

Thank you for your suggestions, I sorted it out. I sent it to another
app on my phone and it was able to extract the data and read it out to me.


Stephen

On 18/11/2018 22:51, Jason White via Groups.Io wrote:
Can you export the data to a CSV file and then read it with a spreadsheet program?

On 11/18/18, 03:56, "Stephen Costigan" <nvda@nvda.groups.io on behalf of stephen.costigan@outlook.com> wrote:

Hi,

Can anyone tell me if NVDA can read charts, the reason why I ask is
because I can send reports and charts from my blood glucose machine to
my laptop.

Thank you in advance.

Stephen











Re: A query I meant to post earlier about windows messages

 

Well you may need to put it in, and see what it does.

Though its done that to my icloud account even though it looked like it took.

On 12/1/2018 7:35 AM, MAX wrote:
When I open the action center the message is there. It says we need to fix your account. When I follow the links it eventually leads me to a screen where it wants my password for my maxsmusicplace.com account. As far as I am concerned Microsoft doesn't need to know that. As you can see my email account is fully functional.


73 (Regards).

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-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2018 8:08 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] A query I meant to post earlier about windows messages

My query is not so much whether its busted, but more along the lines, I can see the alert, and I can open the action centre but where is the message it is referring to, give me a clue?
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "MAX" <max@maxsmusicplace.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2018 8:51 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] A query I meant to post earlier about windows messages


Along that line I am getting a message every few days telling me that
Microsoft needs to fix my email. My email is working fine. I guess they
never heard the expression, if it aint broke don't fix it. What am I
saying? Microsoft is well known for fixing things that aint broke.


73 (Regards).

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-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shaun
Everiss
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2018 11:46 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] A query I meant to post earlier about windows messages

hitting enter on that can help to open it however I don't always trust
windowsaction/ notiffication centre.

For example, during a clock sync the power dropped off and the router died.

I got it back every thing was out of sync, windows was alegal, everything
wouldn't open and everything was screaming at me.

It was waterfox that alerted me to the fact everything was backwards and
pointed me at my clock, which I changed.

Then everything worked.

But the messages stayed, and I had to tell action centre to ignore them till
they died.

On a similar note, notifications can report a problem, but in a criptic way
and after I have found and solved it.

I was upgrading one of my security/ backup programs.

And immediately I got a notification that I was unsafe, recomending a full
reset and reformat.

I was aware the thing was broken, and continued updating.

After this, I had to clear things.

I have had it say for example that I am using pirated windows, and my
accounts are not signing in and that a whole host of things are screwed and
that I should reset or something.

Yet when I have logged into where I need to go to check, not only are they
not showing no problems but checking on the server side shows that they
never existed.

Or existed for such a little time it didn't matter.

The only time that its ever really worked was when I was updating a business
server for my uncle and the system kept crashing, at that time, windows put
up the usual video card issue with the drivers crashing out.

A small note put that it was a bug with the driver, and to open a website
for instructions, where I found the manufacturer had added to the action
note that I needed a new driver and got a direct link to it.

But that was before things got weird.

Now, I do glance at notifications centre just like I would glance at the
paper, but 99.9% of the time I just clear them, in most cases its fixed, not
a problem or if it is, I can handle it without any issue.


On 11/29/2018 10:56 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
In Windows 7, sometimes in the tray icons is one saying you have one
message, basically some kind of problem report. I seldom seem to
notice it till then, so one might be forgiven for thinking that
invoking the context menu and selecting the open for the centre might
just give a clue to what it is.
However normally this opens a screen with things like troubleshooting,
security, maintenance etc, and seems to have no obvious way to simply
view that message.
Am I missing something obvious?
So if there is a quick way to just get to that message wherever it is
and read it it would be great. It normally tends to be something like
Backup issues or some odd crash of explorer or some such, but one can
never find the actual text until you accidentally resolve it by
guesswork and then you can see it in the old archive. Its a bit
pointless then!

Brian

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Re: Open With Screen does not read at all with NVDA 2018.3.2

 

There are issues with file associations right now in win 10 1809, update history has this slated for the december patch tuesday release so it will come.

On 12/1/2018 8:16 AM, Brandon Keith Biggs wrote:
Hello,
Does anyone else have this problem? If I open a file type that does not
have any association or open with / choose another app I can't hear
anything and I can't interact with the screen at all.
Thanks,

Brandon Keith Biggs <http://brandonkeithbiggs.com/>



Re: downloading irish tts from www.abair.ie

Laz
 

No, no problem. I downloaded it successfully but I had to allow
scripts to run in order to do so. I've seen this type of issue in the
recent past so knew what to do.

Laz

On 11/30/18, Josh Kennedy <joshknnd1982@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,

Is there a problem with chrome and NVDA addons I tried to download the irish
tts nvda addon from www.abair.ie English website… and chrome tried opening
the nvda addon file as if it were a website and displayed jibberish
characters. The only way for me to download the addon was to use Microsoft
edge. How do I get google chrome to download this addon?

Josh


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Re: Kindle problem solved

Annette Moore
 

Yay! I'm so glad that's been resolved for you!

Annette

On 11/30/2018 1:26 PM, Travis Siegel wrote:
Last night I went through the list of programs in task manager, and one of the programs that was running was one jhook, apparently, a remnant left over from when I tried to run jaws demo to find out why NVDA wasn't working earlier this week.  Turns out that after AI removed this program from the currently running tasks, my kindle reader went back to behaving normally.  I haven't a clue why it was still running, since jaws hadn't even run, and any possible executables were shutdown days ago, but for some reason, this jhook remained in memory and was causing problems with kindle reader, which is odd, because it didn't seem to affect anything else <shrug>.  Anyway, my kindle is back to normal, and I'm very happy about that, because it was a pain having to read my books only with the Iphone, sometimes that's fine, but not all the time.

Just thought I'd post here, in case anyone else runs into the problem and is looking for a fix.  The solution is to look through your task manager, and remove any programs that aren't being used, it's an extremely useful thing to do.  Of course, be sure what you're removing, you wouldn't want to stop a vital process from running, that could cause no end of difficulties. *grin*




Re: I can't select radio buttons on a webpage using NVDA

Gene
 

Can you give us the address of the page so people can try it?
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2018 10:45 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] I can't select radio buttons on a webpage using NVDA

Yes, I tried this ... no  luck ...


--Sile

On 11/30/2018 9:31 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
> Switch out of focus to browse mode first and then fiddle around with
> them. NVDA is notorious at not updating the states of radio buttons in
> a table on a web page. I['m pretty sure there was a debate if this was
> poor page authoring or not about 2 years ago?
> I encountered this recently on a health log in account creation site
> as well. I could not se my gender. It looked like I was both male and
> female. A medical miracle but on refreshing the page they seemed to 
> be changed but nvda did not say they had or got them both as  on.
>
> Brian
>
> bglists@...
> Sent via blueyonder.
> Please address personal E-mail to:-
> briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
> in the display name field.
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sile via Groups.Io"
> <somodhrain@...>
> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2018 11:29 PM
> Subject: [nvda] I can't select radio buttons on a webpage using NVDA
>
>
>> Hello
>>
>>
>> Just wondering if anyone has run into this problem with NVDA. I am
>> trying to select radio buttons that are within a table (basically
>> ranking students on a scale from 1-5 on several criteria, with each
>> criterion being one row of radio buttons.)
>>
>>
>> It doesn't matter whether I use firefox or chrome, the radio buttons
>> don't seem to change state whether I hit spacebar or return, or
>> whether I am in edit mode or not.
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>> Anyone got any ideas?
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>> --Sile
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Kindle problem solved

Travis Siegel <tsiegel@...>
 

Last night I went through the list of programs in task manager, and one of the programs that was running was one jhook, apparently, a remnant left over from when I tried to run jaws demo to find out why NVDA wasn't working earlier this week.  Turns out that after AI removed this program from the currently running tasks, my kindle reader went back to behaving normally.  I haven't a clue why it was still running, since jaws hadn't even run, and any possible executables were shutdown days ago, but for some reason, this jhook remained in memory and was causing problems with kindle reader, which is odd, because it didn't seem to affect anything else <shrug>.  Anyway, my kindle is back to normal, and I'm very happy about that, because it was a pain having to read my books only with the Iphone, sometimes that's fine, but not all the time.

Just thought I'd post here, in case anyone else runs into the problem and is looking for a fix.  The solution is to look through your task manager, and remove any programs that aren't being used, it's an extremely useful thing to do.  Of course, be sure what you're removing, you wouldn't want to stop a vital process from running, that could cause no end of difficulties. *grin*


Re: Open With Screen does not read at all with NVDA 2018.3.2

Jacob Kruger
 

Operating system version?


Just tested this on my windows 10 64 bit, build version 1809 (build 18282.1000) machine, using NVDA 2018.4 beta 2, and, the open with dialogue/interface worked fine.


Stay well


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"...resistance is futile...but, acceptance is versatile..."

On 2018-11-30 9:16 PM, Brandon Keith Biggs wrote:
Hello,
Does anyone else have this problem? If I open a file type that does not have any association or open with / choose another app I can't hear anything and I can't interact with the screen at all.
Thanks,


Open With Screen does not read at all with NVDA 2018.3.2

 

Hello,
Does anyone else have this problem? If I open a file type that does not have any association or open with / choose another app I can't hear anything and I can't interact with the screen at all.
Thanks,


Re: Logging Level

Ralph Boersema
 

Thanks!

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2018 11:34 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Logging Level

Hi,
Ideally info level should be used unless told by a developer or two to use debug level temporarily. Also, logging levels does not make a difference in responsiveness of a system - other variables such as what programs you're running (both foreground and background), system drivers, visuals and others contribute to performance somewhat.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ralph Boersema
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2018 8:31 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Logging Level

Here's a quick question. Which logging level should I normally be using? I'm trying to make sure I'm using settings that do not slow down the program or computer.

Warmly,
Ralph


Re: A query I meant to post earlier about windows messages

MAX <max@...>
 

When I open the action center the message is there. It says we need to fix your account. When I follow the links it eventually leads me to a screen where it wants my password for my maxsmusicplace.com account. As far as I am concerned Microsoft doesn't need to know that. As you can see my email account is fully functional.


73 (Regards).

Max K 4 O D S.

I've Never Lost the Wonder.

Antique Electronics Site: http://www.angelfire.com/electronic/funwithtubes/

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Friday, November 30, 2018 8:08 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] A query I meant to post earlier about windows messages

My query is not so much whether its busted, but more along the lines, I can see the alert, and I can open the action centre but where is the message it is referring to, give me a clue?
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "MAX" <max@maxsmusicplace.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2018 8:51 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] A query I meant to post earlier about windows messages


Along that line I am getting a message every few days telling me that
Microsoft needs to fix my email. My email is working fine. I guess they
never heard the expression, if it aint broke don't fix it. What am I
saying? Microsoft is well known for fixing things that aint broke.


73 (Regards).

Max K 4 O D S.

I've Never Lost the Wonder.

Antique Electronics Site: http://www.angelfire.com/electronic/funwithtubes/



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shaun
Everiss
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2018 11:46 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] A query I meant to post earlier about windows messages

hitting enter on that can help to open it however I don't always trust
windowsaction/ notiffication centre.

For example, during a clock sync the power dropped off and the router died.

I got it back every thing was out of sync, windows was alegal, everything
wouldn't open and everything was screaming at me.

It was waterfox that alerted me to the fact everything was backwards and
pointed me at my clock, which I changed.

Then everything worked.

But the messages stayed, and I had to tell action centre to ignore them till
they died.

On a similar note, notifications can report a problem, but in a criptic way
and after I have found and solved it.

I was upgrading one of my security/ backup programs.

And immediately I got a notification that I was unsafe, recomending a full
reset and reformat.

I was aware the thing was broken, and continued updating.

After this, I had to clear things.

I have had it say for example that I am using pirated windows, and my
accounts are not signing in and that a whole host of things are screwed and
that I should reset or something.

Yet when I have logged into where I need to go to check, not only are they
not showing no problems but checking on the server side shows that they
never existed.

Or existed for such a little time it didn't matter.

The only time that its ever really worked was when I was updating a business
server for my uncle and the system kept crashing, at that time, windows put
up the usual video card issue with the drivers crashing out.

A small note put that it was a bug with the driver, and to open a website
for instructions, where I found the manufacturer had added to the action
note that I needed a new driver and got a direct link to it.

But that was before things got weird.

Now, I do glance at notifications centre just like I would glance at the
paper, but 99.9% of the time I just clear them, in most cases its fixed, not
a problem or if it is, I can handle it without any issue.


On 11/29/2018 10:56 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
In Windows 7, sometimes in the tray icons is one saying you have one
message, basically some kind of problem report. I seldom seem to
notice it till then, so one might be forgiven for thinking that
invoking the context menu and selecting the open for the centre might
just give a clue to what it is.
However normally this opens a screen with things like troubleshooting,
security, maintenance etc, and seems to have no obvious way to simply
view that message.
Am I missing something obvious?
So if there is a quick way to just get to that message wherever it is
and read it it would be great. It normally tends to be something like
Backup issues or some odd crash of explorer or some such, but one can
never find the actual text until you accidentally resolve it by
guesswork and then you can see it in the old archive. Its a bit
pointless then!

Brian

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