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Re: Game virus, was, A couple of small annoyances.

MAX <max@...>
 

Brian wrote.

Noticed my "g" key was not inserting this letter. Found that somehow my
Game Bar settings had been set to use this key as a hot key to start/stop
the gaming features.
Curses!

Brian. I had the same trouble with outlook and I clicked on something and
got my G key back but ever since then when I open and close outlook there
is a message on the screen that says press control G to ... I have
forgotten the rest. This started right after I read a message sent from
someone's I phone. I call it my game virus although it doesn't seem to be
a harmful virus. I am defining a virus the same way gardeners define a
weed. A weed is any plant that is growing where it isn't wanted. To me a
virus is any program that runs where and when it isn't wanted. If you ever
figure out how to get rid of it pleas share the information with me.


73 (Regards).

Max K 4 O D S.

I've Never Lost the Wonder.

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-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian
K. Lingard
Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2018 5:33 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] A couple of small annoyances.

Dear Brian's Mail List Acct., Max & List:

Windows 10 has three settings concerning the selection of default
programs":
Default Programs, Default Apps and select Default Program by File Type

You want too set each and every one of these to your preferred browser to
avoid Edge showing up when you need a browser.
The file extensions you want to change are: HTTP PDF as well as any other
file type with Edge set as the default browser.
Upon making these changes, and saving your changes, Edge should be out of
your life until Microsoft does something to make it reappear.

Noticed my "g" key was not inserting this letter. Found that somehow my
Game Bar settings had been set to use this key as a hot key to start/stop
the gaming features.
Curses!
Brian K. Lingard


From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf of Brian's Mail
list account via Groups.Io
Sent: November 26, 2018 14:23
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] A couple of small annoyances.

I think, generally in windows 10 there are some places where Edge is used
no matter what you do, but I believe that you need to actually do as you
always could and set up default programs for certain file types, but the
old way of letting a browser do it on its own never did work in 10, at
least for me, I always had to go to the list of file types and select a
default program if it was set as a Microsoft one. another reason I prefer
windows 7.
Brian
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From: "MAX" <max@maxsmusicplace.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 6:36 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] A couple of small annoyances.

Source seems to be the only word of that general pronunciation that it
messed up. It does alright with horse. As my last message I found
that edge is still my default browser. Short between the head sets.
Chrome has a big button labeled make this your default browser but
Microsoft must have written an override. How do I make chrome the
default browser?
73 (Regards).
Max K 4 O D S.
I've Never Lost the Wonder.
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf of Gene
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 12:24 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] A couple of small annoyances.
Screen-reader designers shouldn't make editorial decisions about what a
screen-reader reads that a program displays. Unless this content
isn't seen by sighted people, Windows should read it.
The is pronounciation of source is the result of the synthesizer you are
using and not NVDA. Are you saying it mispronounces that sound in
general?
or just in the word source?
Gene


From: MAX <mailto:max@maxsmusicplace.com>
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 12:07 PM
To: NVDA <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] A couple of small annoyances.

I recognize that these are small things that the developers may not think
are important enough to fix. Here goes anyway. When I am opening a
file in word I press control O and then tab twice. Nvda says recently
opened files. You haven't opened any files recently. This was not
unexpected the first time I opened a file after installing nvda.
However, I use word every day and the message continue. At first it
was a laugh, then a smile and now it's I wish it wouldn't do that.
Another thing is the
pronunciation of s o u r c e. In the united states source rhymes with
horse not with farce as nvda pronounces it. I have tried to fix it in
the dictionary but when I replace the h in horse with an s it goes back
to the
rhyme with farce. Well, I guess that's just the way it is.
73 (Regards).
Max. K 4 O DS.
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Re: number pronunciation

 

The click through link to the topic was provided.  

However, the online forum interface for the group, which is also where all messages are archived, can be found at:  https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda/topics 
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NVDA and word 2016

Don H
 

Are there any settings that should be changed within Word 2016 to work best with NVDA?
Thanks


Re: Reading Phone Numbers in Spanish

ChrisLeo
 

Hi.
This is due to a incorrect rule on espeak-ng for Spanish language.
I can fix it for the next version of espeak-ng.
Very thanks for your report,
Cheers.


Chris.

In reply to bestuiexperience, 28/11/2018 03:36:

Hello, Someone who was testing our site with NVDA in Spanish was using
eSpeak to test, and said that a phone number that was written in this
format (111-111-1111) was reading the dashes as minus signs. However
witht eh Vocalizer Expressive Voices (using JAWS), the phone number read
our correctly. Could this be an issue of how the "-" symbol was typed in
the HTML page? Or is this just a limitation of eSpeak? What can be done
to get the number ead out properly?


Re: NVDA cannot activate buttons and links

Gene
 

Try Internet Explorer or Chrome and see what happens. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2018 7:29 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA cannot activate buttons and links

The page is www.infowars.com and the browser is Firefox.  I just tried the page with the Edge browser, the links work but the load of pages is so slow and the browser keep repeating “refreshing page” for a while that I just close it because it is annoying.

Regards

Blessings

Pascal

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2018 6:27 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA cannot activate buttons and links

 

Is there a particular page or if we go to the home page will this happen on any links or buttons?  also, which browsers have you tried?

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Friday, November 30, 2018 5:18 PM

Subject: [nvda] NVDA cannot activate buttons and links

 

Hi All,

Recently I have been unable to activate buttons and links on the www.infowars.com webpage.  Anyone encountering this?

Any suggestion is appreciated.

Blessings

Pascal

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2018 2:34 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I can't select radio buttons on a webpage using NVDA

 

Can you give us the address of the page so people can try it?

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Friday, November 30, 2018 10:45 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] I can't select radio buttons on a webpage using NVDA

 

Yes, I tried this ... no  luck ...


--Sile

On 11/30/2018 9:31 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
> Switch out of focus to browse mode first and then fiddle around with
> them. NVDA is notorious at not updating the states of radio buttons in
> a table on a web page. I['m pretty sure there was a debate if this was
> poor page authoring or not about 2 years ago?
> I encountered this recently on a health log in account creation site
> as well. I could not se my gender. It looked like I was both male and
> female. A medical miracle but on refreshing the page they seemed to 
> be changed but nvda did not say they had or got them both as  on.
>
> Brian
>
> bglists@...
> Sent via blueyonder.
> Please address personal E-mail to:-
> briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
> in the display name field.
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sile via Groups.Io"
> <somodhrain@...>
> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2018 11:29 PM
> Subject: [nvda] I can't select radio buttons on a webpage using NVDA
>
>
>> Hello
>>
>>
>> Just wondering if anyone has run into this problem with NVDA. I am
>> trying to select radio buttons that are within a table (basically
>> ranking students on a scale from 1-5 on several criteria, with each
>> criterion being one row of radio buttons.)
>>
>>
>> It doesn't matter whether I use firefox or chrome, the radio buttons
>> don't seem to change state whether I hit spacebar or return, or
>> whether I am in edit mode or not.
>>
>>
>> Anyone got any ideas?
>>
>>
>> --Sile
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>


Re: NVDA cannot activate buttons and links

Pascal Lambert <coccinelle86@...>
 

The page is www.infowars.com and the browser is Firefox.  I just tried the page with the Edge browser, the links work but the load of pages is so slow and the browser keep repeating “refreshing page” for a while that I just close it because it is annoying.

Regards

Blessings

Pascal

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2018 6:27 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA cannot activate buttons and links

 

Is there a particular page or if we go to the home page will this happen on any links or buttons?  also, which browsers have you tried?

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Friday, November 30, 2018 5:18 PM

Subject: [nvda] NVDA cannot activate buttons and links

 

Hi All,

Recently I have been unable to activate buttons and links on the www.infowars.com webpage.  Anyone encountering this?

Any suggestion is appreciated.

Blessings

Pascal

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2018 2:34 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I can't select radio buttons on a webpage using NVDA

 

Can you give us the address of the page so people can try it?

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Friday, November 30, 2018 10:45 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] I can't select radio buttons on a webpage using NVDA

 

Yes, I tried this ... no  luck ...


--Sile

On 11/30/2018 9:31 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
> Switch out of focus to browse mode first and then fiddle around with
> them. NVDA is notorious at not updating the states of radio buttons in
> a table on a web page. I['m pretty sure there was a debate if this was
> poor page authoring or not about 2 years ago?
> I encountered this recently on a health log in account creation site
> as well. I could not se my gender. It looked like I was both male and
> female. A medical miracle but on refreshing the page they seemed to 
> be changed but nvda did not say they had or got them both as  on.
>
> Brian
>
> bglists@...
> Sent via blueyonder.
> Please address personal E-mail to:-
> briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
> in the display name field.
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sile via Groups.Io"
> <somodhrain@...>
> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2018 11:29 PM
> Subject: [nvda] I can't select radio buttons on a webpage using NVDA
>
>
>> Hello
>>
>>
>> Just wondering if anyone has run into this problem with NVDA. I am
>> trying to select radio buttons that are within a table (basically
>> ranking students on a scale from 1-5 on several criteria, with each
>> criterion being one row of radio buttons.)
>>
>>
>> It doesn't matter whether I use firefox or chrome, the radio buttons
>> don't seem to change state whether I hit spacebar or return, or
>> whether I am in edit mode or not.
>>
>>
>> Anyone got any ideas?
>>
>>
>> --Sile
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>


Re: books about NVDA on the access technology institute website.

Brian K. Lingard
 

Dear Sue & List:

Books with a purchase price or license price are almost always copyrighted. Sharing a copy with another person involves copying the book, which you are not allowed to do without paying the publisher another purchase fee.

If you are in the USA, you can often obtain a free Bookshare account from your participating regional library or if you are in full-time education.

Bookshare has many titles, including ones from philanthropically-minded publishers.

Yes, the version of NVDDA being discussed is very important as it has had changes since the release of Windows 10.

If this information is not included in the book description on the publisher or seller's web site, you need to make enquiries BEFORE purchasing the books.
Brian K. Lingard


From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf of Sue J. Ward
Sent: November 26, 2018 16:52
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] books about NVDA on the access technology institute website.

Hello. I would like to buy the two books about NVDA but they are kind of pricey maybe email them to me if you can on the blind.training or it is called access technology institute website. One is about the NVDA screen reader which goes for 95 dollars that mainly talks about the entire screen reader guess from what I have read it walks you through everything the only thing I don't know when it was written. Does any one has a copy that could email it to me for free? The other one is about windows 10 using nvda it sounds like it is a good book to get it talks about the entire system but what I don't get is when you first get a new computer that has windows 10 it does not have word installed and, in the book,, it mentions and walks you through windows 10 and one of the lessons is managing and saving documents mentions word plus there are several lessons about Microsoft word. It is good but I just want a book mainly about windows 10 minus the stuff about word. The book does cost around
150 dollars it sounds like a good resource was wondering has anyone bought the books from the website and how good are they? I would also like a copy of the book as well if anyone has that could they email that to me? The books are an immersion in to NVDA

The other one is an immersion in to windows 10 with NVDA. Thank you.
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Re: A couple of small annoyances.

Brian K. Lingard
 

I have seen MS Word bring up a panel such as this, however it seems none of the other components of Office 2013 or 2016 doo this.

Brian K. Lingard

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf of Cohn, Jonathan
Sent: November 26, 2018 16:51
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] A couple of small annoyances.

 

In terms of your Microsoft Office issue, it sounds like you need to adjust Microsoft Office Startup. In newer versions of Microsoft Office a panel comes up with recent files and templates, with the assumption that you probably want to work on something you recently worked on, and will find it in that panel. There is a setting available to have the program just open a new document when opened directly instead of via an associated file.
Let me know if you have trouble finding the settings, though I am running a slightly older version of Word.

_._,_._,_

 


Re: NVDA cannot activate buttons and links

Peter Beasley
 

Using Google Chrome, I had absolutely no trouble accessing the links and buttons on that web page.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Pascal Lambert
Sent: 30 November 2018 23:23
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA cannot activate buttons and links

 

Hi All,

Recently I have been unable to activate buttons and links on the www.infowars.com webpage.  Anyone encountering this?

Any suggestion is appreciated.

Blessings

Pascal

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2018 2:34 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I can't select radio buttons on a webpage using NVDA

 

Can you give us the address of the page so people can try it?

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Friday, November 30, 2018 10:45 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] I can't select radio buttons on a webpage using NVDA

 

Yes, I tried this ... no  luck ...


--Sile

On 11/30/2018 9:31 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
> Switch out of focus to browse mode first and then fiddle around with
> them. NVDA is notorious at not updating the states of radio buttons in
> a table on a web page. I['m pretty sure there was a debate if this was
> poor page authoring or not about 2 years ago?
> I encountered this recently on a health log in account creation site
> as well. I could not se my gender. It looked like I was both male and
> female. A medical miracle but on refreshing the page they seemed to 
> be changed but nvda did not say they had or got them both as  on.
>
> Brian
>
> bglists@...
> Sent via blueyonder.
> Please address personal E-mail to:-
> briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
> in the display name field.
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sile via Groups.Io"
> <somodhrain@...>
> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2018 11:29 PM
> Subject: [nvda] I can't select radio buttons on a webpage using NVDA
>
>
>> Hello
>>
>>
>> Just wondering if anyone has run into this problem with NVDA. I am
>> trying to select radio buttons that are within a table (basically
>> ranking students on a scale from 1-5 on several criteria, with each
>> criterion being one row of radio buttons.)
>>
>>
>> It doesn't matter whether I use firefox or chrome, the radio buttons
>> don't seem to change state whether I hit spacebar or return, or
>> whether I am in edit mode or not.
>>
>>
>> Anyone got any ideas?
>>
>>
>> --Sile
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>

 


Re: A couple of small annoyances.

Brian K. Lingard
 

Dear Brian's Mail List Acct., Max & List:

Windows 10 has three settings concerning the selection of default programs":
Default Programs, Default Apps and select Default Program by File Type

You want too set each and every one of these to your preferred browser to
avoid Edge showing up when you need a browser.
The file extensions you want to change are: HTTP PDF as well as any other
file type with Edge set as the default browser.
Upon making these changes, and saving your changes, Edge should be out of
your life until Microsoft does something to make it reappear.

Noticed my "g" key was not inserting this letter. Found that somehow my Game
Bar settings had been set to use this key as a hot key to start/stop the
gaming features.
Curses!
Brian K. Lingard


From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf of Brian's Mail
list account via Groups.Io
Sent: November 26, 2018 14:23
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] A couple of small annoyances.

I think, generally in windows 10 there are some places where Edge is used no
matter what you do, but I believe that you need to actually do as you always
could and set up default programs for certain file types, but the old way of
letting a browser do it on its own never did work in 10, at least for me, I
always had to go to the list of file types and select a default program
if it was set as a Microsoft one. another reason I prefer windows 7.
Brian
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From: "MAX" <max@maxsmusicplace.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 6:36 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] A couple of small annoyances.

Source seems to be the only word of that general pronunciation that it
messed up. It does alright with horse. As my last message I found that
edge is still my default browser. Short between the head sets. Chrome
has
a big button labeled make this your default browser but Microsoft must
have
written an override. How do I make chrome the default browser?
73 (Regards).
Max K 4 O D S.
I've Never Lost the Wonder.
Antique Electronics Site:
<http://www.angelfire.com/electronic/funwithtubes/>
http://www.angelfire.com/electronic/funwithtubes/
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf of Gene
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 12:24 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] A couple of small annoyances.
Screen-reader designers shouldn't make editorial decisions about what a
screen-reader reads that a program displays. Unless this content isn't
seen by sighted people, Windows should read it.
The is pronounciation of source is the result of the synthesizer you are
using and not NVDA. Are you saying it mispronounces that sound in
general?
or just in the word source?
Gene


From: MAX <mailto:max@maxsmusicplace.com>
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 12:07 PM
To: NVDA <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] A couple of small annoyances.

I recognize that these are small things that the developers may not think
are important enough to fix. Here goes anyway. When I am opening a file
in word I press control O and then tab twice. Nvda says recently opened
files. You haven't opened any files recently. This was not unexpected
the
first time I opened a file after installing nvda. However, I use word
every day and the message continue. At first it was a laugh, then a
smile
and now it's I wish it wouldn't do that. Another thing is the
pronunciation of s o u r c e. In the united states source rhymes with
horse not with farce as nvda pronounces it. I have tried to fix it in the
dictionary but when I replace the h in horse with an s it goes back to the
rhyme with farce. Well, I guess that's just the way it is.
73 (Regards).
Max. K 4 O DS.
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Re: number pronunciation

Robert Doc Wright godfearer
 


Where do I go to find these archives you mentioned?

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2018 9:48 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] number pronunciation

See the topic: 

NVDA reading single numbers!  in the archive.

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Re: A random question, related to screen readers in general

Tyler Wood
 

Hi Brian,

I'm sorry - I'm just making sure I'm reading your message correctly.


Am I able to take advantage of free matter for the blind in Canada? Can I use this for sending things out of Canada or only receiving them and what specific items are included in that?


thank you so much for this information. CNIB does love to charge amazingly high prices for just about everything - and yet their services in pertinent areas, like mobility etc, suffers.

On 2018-12-01 2:07 a.m., Brian K. Lingard wrote:
Dear Erik & List:

If you quoted the CNIB price for a Perkins Classic Brailler, you may find
the price they are sold by Howe Press, Perkins School for The Blind,
Watertown, MA USA is significantly cheaper even after converting their price
in US funds to Canadian Dollars. Seems the fewer hands these units pass
through, the cheaper the price. Howe Press are the makers. They offer
excellent delivery by Free Matter for The Blind from Watertown. I habitually
buy all accessories for my Brailler from them as they always have the items
in stock.
At one point, CNIB was selling Perkins Braillers for $1,200/each, the sum
Ontario Assistive Devices Program would pay for them, while Howe Press sold
them for $US800. Even after conversion to Canadian Dollars, I saved money,
CNIB was as usual at the time, out of stock, did not stock any accessories
such as the wooden case, Sound Pad Etc. Howe did, I had the unit in hand
within about a week. It is interesting how CNIB prices goods at the Maximum
Ontario ADP will pay. While CNIB has no shareholders to distribute profits
to, it does not prevent them reaping handsome profits. You can purchase
Braille paper from APH, Louisville, KY at a handsome savings over CNIB
prices. Uncertain as to why, CNIB pays postage on orders sent by mail,
despite the Literature for The Blind Post-Free concession covering
everything imaginable for the Blind, including Braille Press parts, paper
Braillers Etc. with Insurance and/or Registration at no fee. The concession
is available to any address in Canada, including addresses with fly-in only
mail delivery, for points in the High Arctic.
Similar concessions apply to Foreign addresses, with the restriction that
only documents, not merchandise,, may be sent registered. Allow 1-2 weeks
for delivery from APH by Free Matter.

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of erik burggraaf
Sent: November 26, 2018 7:26
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] A random question, related to screen readers in general

and yet, my experience is much the opposite. Braille displays are partially
funded by the government here, and many people have them. I have one,
because I am a programming student, but even before that, I had a mobile
Braille display. I can't really use braille and speech effectively, so I am
in the habit of turning off the speech when my Braille display is connected,
and just reading. Reading Braille is slower for me than listening, but it's
much more accurate.

if I had to pay for it all on my own, I doubt I would be able to afford it,
but since I have access, I have it and I use it.

consider that the cost of Braille displays is falling sharply. In 2007, the
cost of a 40 cell Braille display was approximately $7,200 Canadian. Today
the cost of a 40 cell Braille display is approximately $3,500 Canadian. In
2008, there were only two real microbe braille displays that I can think of.
Today, there are at least 10 or 15 displays available, in the 20 cells and
under form factor. Some of them cost as little as 6 or $800. Compare the
cost of a braille knee at $650 Canadian to the cost of the classic Perkins
Brailler at $1,300 Canadian, and clearly, brailleme me comes out on top as
the new learning tool for Braille.

The pundits who fear Braille because it makes them look or act blind, are
losing the price argument. Braille is becoming more affordable by the day,
and I think it will make a serious come back. You cannot tell a person that
they need to go through life illiterate, it just isn't right.




On November 26, 2018 5:03:46 AM "Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io"
<bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:

Of course like many surveys, it is just a result of those who did the
survey. I strongly suspect out of the general users the percentage is a lot
lower than this.
I have many friends who are nvda users not one of them has a Braille
display, and only a handful can read the code in any case.
I certainly cannot justify buying one. I can see how for many functions it
would be useful if you can read it, such as programming etc., but for
general use on an everyday basis by somebody just using applications, email
and some shopping or social media, much of the latter now done on mobiles,
then really its not needed.
Brian

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From: "James AUSTIN" <james.londonsw15@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 6:29 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] A random question, related to screen readers in general


I think that the WebAIM Screen Readers surveys have this info

TC
James
On 25 Nov 2018, at 23:26, Gene <gsasner@gmail.com> wrote:

A Google Search for something like percent of screen-reader users use
Braille produced this as one result:
https://webaim.org/projects/screenreadersurvey7/
If you search for the word Braille and repeat the search until you get
to the relevant content, you will find information about the number of
users of different screen-readers who use Braille output.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2018 4:29 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] A random question, related to screen readers in
general

Hello all


Does anyone know how I might find out what percentage of screen reader
users use braille displays?


Apologies for the random nature of this question,


--Sile
















Re: Open With Screen does not read at all with NVDA 2018.3.2

 

Hello,
My OS is latest windows 10 64 bit, and my NVDA is installed.
I'll look forward to the new release!


On Fri, Nov 30, 2018 at 11:22 AM Jacob Kruger <jacob@...> wrote:

Operating system version?


Just tested this on my windows 10 64 bit, build version 1809 (build 18282.1000) machine, using NVDA 2018.4 beta 2, and, the open with dialogue/interface worked fine.


Stay well


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"...resistance is futile...but, acceptance is versatile..."
On 2018-11-30 9:16 PM, Brandon Keith Biggs wrote:
Hello,
Does anyone else have this problem? If I open a file type that does not have any association or open with / choose another app I can't hear anything and I can't interact with the screen at all.
Thanks,


Re: NVDA cannot activate buttons and links

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

Works for me in Firefox and waterfox. Its all a conspiracy to stop the blind getting on the web you know! :-)

Seriously though, you need to think about what you have done recently.
Also restart the computer and try other browsers
Next try other web sites as that particular site looks no different to nay other to me.
Well apart from the paranoid content anyway.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Pascal Lambert " <coccinelle86@comcast.net>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2018 11:18 PM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA cannot activate buttons and links


Hi All,

Recently I have been unable to activate buttons and links on the www.infowars.com <http://www.infowars.com> webpage. Anyone encountering this?

Any suggestion is appreciated.

Blessings

Pascal

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2018 2:34 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I can't select radio buttons on a webpage using NVDA



Can you give us the address of the page so people can try it?



Gene

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Sent: Friday, November 30, 2018 10:45 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

Subject: Re: [nvda] I can't select radio buttons on a webpage using NVDA



Yes, I tried this ... no luck ...


--Sile

On 11/30/2018 9:31 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
Switch out of focus to browse mode first and then fiddle around with
them. NVDA is notorious at not updating the states of radio buttons in
a table on a web page. I['m pretty sure there was a debate if this was
poor page authoring or not about 2 years ago?
I encountered this recently on a health log in account creation site
as well. I could not se my gender. It looked like I was both male and
female. A medical miracle but on refreshing the page they seemed to
be changed but nvda did not say they had or got them both as on.

Brian

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Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2018 11:29 PM
Subject: [nvda] I can't select radio buttons on a webpage using NVDA


Hello


Just wondering if anyone has run into this problem with NVDA. I am
trying to select radio buttons that are within a table (basically
ranking students on a scale from 1-5 on several criteria, with each
criterion being one row of radio buttons.)


It doesn't matter whether I use firefox or chrome, the radio buttons
don't seem to change state whether I hit spacebar or return, or
whether I am in edit mode or not.


Anyone got any ideas?


--Sile






Re: Kindle problem solved

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Yes I do notice that even on Windows 7, Jaws has inserted a permanent extra driver into the display chain, so maybe it was part of that. Normally its pretty good at removing its bits and pieces though.

Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Travis Siegel" <tsiegel@softcon.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2018 7:26 PM
Subject: [nvda] Kindle problem solved


Last night I went through the list of programs in task manager, and one
of the programs that was running was one jhook, apparently, a remnant
left over from when I tried to run jaws demo to find out why NVDA wasn't
working earlier this week. Turns out that after AI removed this program
from the currently running tasks, my kindle reader went back to behaving
normally. I haven't a clue why it was still running, since jaws hadn't
even run, and any possible executables were shutdown days ago, but for
some reason, this jhook remained in memory and was causing problems with
kindle reader, which is odd, because it didn't seem to affect anything
else <shrug>. Anyway, my kindle is back to normal, and I'm very happy
about that, because it was a pain having to read my books only with the
Iphone, sometimes that's fine, but not all the time.

Just thought I'd post here, in case anyone else runs into the problem
and is looking for a fix. The solution is to look through your task
manager, and remove any programs that aren't being used, it's an
extremely useful thing to do. Of course, be sure what you're removing,
you wouldn't want to stop a vital process from running, that could cause
no end of difficulties. *grin*


Re: Open With Screen does not read at all with NVDA 2018.3.2

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The other thing I was going to say is that increasingly windows 10 hasfewer things that work with portable versions from my experience.

Brian

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To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2018 7:22 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Open With Screen does not read at all with NVDA 2018.3.2


Operating system version?


Just tested this on my windows 10 64 bit, build version 1809 (build
18282.1000) machine, using NVDA 2018.4 beta 2, and, the open with
dialogue/interface worked fine.


Stay well


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"...resistance is futile...but, acceptance is versatile..."
On 2018-11-30 9:16 PM, Brandon Keith Biggs wrote:
Hello,
Does anyone else have this problem? If I open a file type that does
not have any association or open with / choose another app I can't
hear anything and I can't interact with the screen at all.
Thanks,

Brandon Keith Biggs <http://brandonkeithbiggs.com/>


Re: A random question, related to screen readers in general

Brian K. Lingard
 

Dear Erik & List:

If you quoted the CNIB price for a Perkins Classic Brailler, you may find
the price they are sold by Howe Press, Perkins School for The Blind,
Watertown, MA USA is significantly cheaper even after converting their price
in US funds to Canadian Dollars. Seems the fewer hands these units pass
through, the cheaper the price. Howe Press are the makers. They offer
excellent delivery by Free Matter for The Blind from Watertown. I habitually
buy all accessories for my Brailler from them as they always have the items
in stock.
At one point, CNIB was selling Perkins Braillers for $1,200/each, the sum
Ontario Assistive Devices Program would pay for them, while Howe Press sold
them for $US800. Even after conversion to Canadian Dollars, I saved money,
CNIB was as usual at the time, out of stock, did not stock any accessories
such as the wooden case, Sound Pad Etc. Howe did, I had the unit in hand
within about a week. It is interesting how CNIB prices goods at the Maximum
Ontario ADP will pay. While CNIB has no shareholders to distribute profits
to, it does not prevent them reaping handsome profits. You can purchase
Braille paper from APH, Louisville, KY at a handsome savings over CNIB
prices. Uncertain as to why, CNIB pays postage on orders sent by mail,
despite the Literature for The Blind Post-Free concession covering
everything imaginable for the Blind, including Braille Press parts, paper
Braillers Etc. with Insurance and/or Registration at no fee. The concession
is available to any address in Canada, including addresses with fly-in only
mail delivery, for points in the High Arctic.
Similar concessions apply to Foreign addresses, with the restriction that
only documents, not merchandise,, may be sent registered. Allow 1-2 weeks
for delivery from APH by Free Matter.

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of erik burggraaf
Sent: November 26, 2018 7:26
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] A random question, related to screen readers in general

and yet, my experience is much the opposite. Braille displays are partially
funded by the government here, and many people have them. I have one,
because I am a programming student, but even before that, I had a mobile
Braille display. I can't really use braille and speech effectively, so I am
in the habit of turning off the speech when my Braille display is connected,
and just reading. Reading Braille is slower for me than listening, but it's
much more accurate.

if I had to pay for it all on my own, I doubt I would be able to afford it,
but since I have access, I have it and I use it.

consider that the cost of Braille displays is falling sharply. In 2007, the
cost of a 40 cell Braille display was approximately $7,200 Canadian. Today
the cost of a 40 cell Braille display is approximately $3,500 Canadian. In
2008, there were only two real microbe braille displays that I can think of.
Today, there are at least 10 or 15 displays available, in the 20 cells and
under form factor. Some of them cost as little as 6 or $800. Compare the
cost of a braille knee at $650 Canadian to the cost of the classic Perkins
Brailler at $1,300 Canadian, and clearly, brailleme me comes out on top as
the new learning tool for Braille.

The pundits who fear Braille because it makes them look or act blind, are
losing the price argument. Braille is becoming more affordable by the day,
and I think it will make a serious come back. You cannot tell a person that
they need to go through life illiterate, it just isn't right.




On November 26, 2018 5:03:46 AM "Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io"
<bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:

Of course like many surveys, it is just a result of those who did the
survey. I strongly suspect out of the general users the percentage is a lot
lower than this.
I have many friends who are nvda users not one of them has a Braille
display, and only a handful can read the code in any case.
I certainly cannot justify buying one. I can see how for many functions it
would be useful if you can read it, such as programming etc., but for
general use on an everyday basis by somebody just using applications, email
and some shopping or social media, much of the latter now done on mobiles,
then really its not needed.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "James AUSTIN" <james.londonsw15@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 6:29 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] A random question, related to screen readers in general


I think that the WebAIM Screen Readers surveys have this info

TC
James
On 25 Nov 2018, at 23:26, Gene <gsasner@gmail.com> wrote:

A Google Search for something like percent of screen-reader users use
Braille produced this as one result:
https://webaim.org/projects/screenreadersurvey7/
If you search for the word Braille and repeat the search until you get
to the relevant content, you will find information about the number of
users of different screen-readers who use Braille output.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Sile via Groups.Io
Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2018 4:29 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] A random question, related to screen readers in
general

Hello all


Does anyone know how I might find out what percentage of screen reader
users use braille displays?


Apologies for the random nature of this question,


--Sile





Re: NVDA not working with links, Again

Hareth
 

Just tried it with Firefox60 ESR, and edge It works fine.
So its a Chrome only issue.
But still with chrome jaws works!!
I hate to switch screen reader just to click a link. You know what I mean.

On 12/1/18, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
You may have answered this before, but for r3ecord keeping purposes: is this
specific to Chrome (perhaps Chrome 70 or above), or can you reproduce this
with other web browsers?
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Hareth
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2018 8:53 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA not working with links, Again

the last 3 versions of NVDA that I remember, currently with the latest
2018.4 beta2
With chrome browser 64bit on windows10 up to date

NVDA not activating the Start voice call" link on facebook messenger
webpage.
https://www.messenger.com

https://web.facebook.com/messages

pressing: enter, shift+enter, spacebar,
insert+numpad 5 then left click, ensert+f7 select link, then tab to
activate also no good
objPad all curcer modes also not working with it.
Application key doesnt work with it just like it's not been selected, nor
the shift+f10.

BTW its working fine with FS jaws18 2018 2019, with the enter and the
spacebar, and the applications and shift+f10 keys.
There are more webpage links I've found not working with NVDA, while
internet browsing, didn't save them. I'd try to list and report them next
time.

Best







Re: NVDA not working with links, Again

 

Hi,
You may have answered this before, but for r3ecord keeping purposes: is this specific to Chrome (perhaps Chrome 70 or above), or can you reproduce this with other web browsers?
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Hareth
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2018 8:53 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA not working with links, Again

the last 3 versions of NVDA that I remember, currently with the latest
2018.4 beta2
With chrome browser 64bit on windows10 up to date

NVDA not activating the Start voice call" link on facebook messenger webpage.
https://www.messenger.com

https://web.facebook.com/messages

pressing: enter, shift+enter, spacebar,
insert+numpad 5 then left click, ensert+f7 select link, then tab to
activate also no good
objPad all curcer modes also not working with it.
Application key doesnt work with it just like it's not been selected, nor the shift+f10.

BTW its working fine with FS jaws18 2018 2019, with the enter and the spacebar, and the applications and shift+f10 keys.
There are more webpage links I've found not working with NVDA, while internet browsing, didn't save them. I'd try to list and report them next time.

Best


NVDA not working with links, Again

Hareth
 

the last 3 versions of NVDA that I remember, currently with the latest
2018.4 beta2
With chrome browser 64bit on windows10 up to date

NVDA not activating the Start voice call" link on facebook messenger webpage.
https://www.messenger.com

https://web.facebook.com/messages

pressing: enter, shift+enter, spacebar,
insert+numpad 5 then left click, ensert+f7 select link, then tab to
activate also no good
objPad all curcer modes also not working with it.
Application key doesnt work with it just like it's not been selected,
nor the shift+f10.

BTW its working fine with FS jaws18 2018 2019, with the enter and the
spacebar, and the applications and shift+f10 keys.
There are more webpage links I've found not working with NVDA, while
internet browsing, didn't save them. I'd try to list and report them
next time.

Best