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Firefox is driving me crazy!

Mallard <mallard@...>
 

Hello list,
For a week or so now, Firefox is driving me crazy.

When I click on a link on a webpage, for some reason I end up clicking on something different from the one I had under my fingers on my braille display or that is read by the synth.

Today I even upgraded to Firefox 45.0 to see whether the problem could be solved, but no... Still the same.

I'm using the latest Next snapshot of NVDA, but the same thing happens with an older version of NVDA (2015.2), so I think it might be something in Firefox.

Has anyone experienced someghing similar?

Ciao,
Ollie


Re: OCRing pdfs using NVDA?

Mallard <mallard@...>
 

Brian,

The issue with Ctrl+Shift+C was simply my fault, as I mentioned previously. It simply didn't occur my mind to try and press NVDA+F2 before the key combination...
Now it works fine here too.

The document I processed took several hours indeed, but I went off cooking and things, so I didn't mind...

I'm going to study teh programme a bit more in depth, to see if there are workarounds to help others make good use of it, at least as much as possible.

If the devs are willing to install NVDA (given that it's free), we might be able to make them understand what is not working in menu viewing...
But I'm probably just too optimistic - I'm spoilt by so many great devs on the Android eyes-free list... (smile).

Ciao,
Ollie

Il 09/03/2016 15:30, Brian Vogel ha scritto:

Ollie,

Glad it worked for you and you're happy with the result. I'm sure a document of that size took several hours to process. I think the largest I've ever done is a bit over 400 pages, and most are significantly smaller than that. When you get into large PDF files, even OCR-ed ones, you pretty much have to be able to word search them to make finding that "needle in a haystack" a reasonable task.

I still can't explain why CTRL+SHIFT+C is not working for you without using pass-through as it works just fine for me when I'm using NVDA 2016.1 and PDF-XChange Viewer together to do an OCR that way.

I have suggested that others contact Tracker regarding accessibility issues. While I can and do use screen readers as part of testing things out, and can say what works or doesn't work for "routine stuff," there's nothing like a skilled screen reader user who has to do "the deep stuff" to uncover, and even to explain, accessibility issues I will never encounter.

Brian


Re: Mouse Navigation with NVDA - Do you use it? Do you like it?

Mallard <mallard@...>
 

Hello Brian,

I use a mouse from time to time. I have been using an Optacon since 1977 (I still use it daily, especially for multilanguage book reading), so using a physical mouse isn't all that complicated for me.
Being used to exploring physical, printed pages, certainly represents a significant advantage in mouse use.

My main difficulty is dealing with the boundaries of the mouse pad...

Ciao,
Ollie

Il 09/03/2016 16:15, Brian Vogel ha scritto:

The subject pretty much says it all. One of the most interesting features of NVDA from this sighted guy's perspective is mouse tracking, which announces what's under the mouse pointer, used in conjunction with the NVDA left and right click keystrokes (or the actual left and right click buttons on a mouse or mousepad).

By moving the mouse around the screen you get an experience that strikes me as far more like what someone who can see gets when they're scanning a webpage quickly to see if there's anything that interests them. Of course, it takes some getting used to, and you'll probably have to do some adjustments on mouse behavior (speed and distance of movement, coasting, and others) to get mouse movement that's comfortable for you.

I'm just curious as to who may be using this method to cruise around the screen, and for any program, not just web browsers, and what your experience was like learning how to use this feature and these methods. I realize that there are certain applications and contexts where this would be way more trouble than it's worth, too, and opinions on where it's worth using and not would be interesting.

My gut tells me that it will be a small cadre that uses this feature set, but I'm trying to decide whether it's something worth trying to teach up front or not. There's nothing like asking those who do use it, or have tried to use it, as a functional navigation alternative to help shape my thoughts on this.

Brian


Re: Espeak is not workin still workin in NVDA version next

 

Hi,
Yes, this confirms a hypothesis set forth by some: settings issue. Please send your nvda.ini file (from your user configuration directory) to me at joseph.lee22590@gmail.com and I'll send you the corrected version.
Cheers,Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: Ângelo Abrantes [mailto:ampa4374@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2016 7:12 AM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Espeak is not workin still workin in NVDA version next

He,
I don't nnow what's happening with portuguese "next" NVDA versions and espeak.
Here you have the nvda.log extract, where the error apears.
"Speaking [LangChangeCommand (u'pt_PT'), u'eSpeak NG'] IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (15:01:24):
Input: kb(desktop):enter
INFO - synthDrivers.espeak.SynthDriver.__init__ (15:01:24):
Using eSpeak version 1.48.15 16.Apr.15
WARNING - synthDriverHandler.SynthDriver.loadSettings (15:01:24):
Invalid voice: pt-pt
ERROR - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (15:01:24):
setSynth
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "synthDriverHandler.pyc", line 88, in setSynth
File "synthDriverHandler.pyc", line 499, in loadSettings
File "synthDriverHandler.pyc", line 29, in changeVoice
File "synthDrivers\espeak.pyc", line 219, in _set_voice
File "synthDriverHandler.pyc", line 366, in _get_language
KeyError: u'pt-pt'
WARNING - stdout (15:01:24):
OrderedDict([('262144', <synthDriverHandler.VoiceInfo object at
0x05930AF0>), ('65537', <synthDriverHandler.VoiceInfo object at
0x05930B50>), ('65536', <synthDriverHandler.VoiceInfo object at
0x05930BB0>), ('131073', <synthDriverHandler.VoiceInfo object at
0x05930C10>), ('131072', <synthDriverHandler.VoiceInfo object at
0x05930C70>), ('589824', <synthDriverHandler.VoiceInfo object at
0x05930CD0>), ('196608', <synthDriverHandler.VoiceInfo object at
0x05930D30>), ('196609', <synthDriverHandler.VoiceInfo object at".
Thanks
Ângelo Abrantes


Mouse Navigation with NVDA - Do you use it? Do you like it?

 

The subject pretty much says it all.  One of the most interesting features of NVDA from this sighted guy's perspective is mouse tracking, which announces what's under the mouse pointer, used in conjunction with the NVDA left and right click keystrokes (or the actual left and right click buttons on a mouse or mousepad).

By moving the mouse around the screen you get an experience that strikes me as far more like what someone who can see gets when they're scanning a webpage quickly to see if there's anything that interests them.  Of course, it takes some getting used to, and you'll probably have to do some adjustments on mouse behavior (speed and distance of movement, coasting, and others) to get mouse movement that's comfortable for you.

I'm just curious as to who may be using this method to cruise around the screen, and for any program, not just web browsers, and what your experience was like learning how to use this feature and these methods.  I realize that there are certain applications and contexts where this would be way more trouble than it's worth, too, and opinions on where it's worth using and not would be interesting.

My gut tells me that it will be a small cadre that uses this feature set, but I'm trying to decide whether it's something worth trying to teach up front or not.  There's nothing like asking those who do use it, or have tried to use it, as a functional navigation alternative to help shape my thoughts on this.

Brian


Espeak is not workin still workin in NVDA version next

Ângelo Abrantes
 

He,
I don't nnow what's happening with portuguese "next" NVDA versions and espeak.
Here you have the nvda.log extract, where the error apears.
"Speaking [LangChangeCommand (u'pt_PT'), u'eSpeak NG']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (15:01:24):
Input: kb(desktop):enter
INFO - synthDrivers.espeak.SynthDriver.__init__ (15:01:24):
Using eSpeak version 1.48.15 16.Apr.15
WARNING - synthDriverHandler.SynthDriver.loadSettings (15:01:24):
Invalid voice: pt-pt
ERROR - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (15:01:24):
setSynth
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "synthDriverHandler.pyc", line 88, in setSynth
File "synthDriverHandler.pyc", line 499, in loadSettings
File "synthDriverHandler.pyc", line 29, in changeVoice
File "synthDrivers\espeak.pyc", line 219, in _set_voice
File "synthDriverHandler.pyc", line 366, in _get_language
KeyError: u'pt-pt'
WARNING - stdout (15:01:24):
OrderedDict([('262144', <synthDriverHandler.VoiceInfo object at 0x05930AF0>), ('65537', <synthDriverHandler.VoiceInfo object at 0x05930B50>), ('65536', <synthDriverHandler.VoiceInfo object at 0x05930BB0>), ('131073', <synthDriverHandler.VoiceInfo object at 0x05930C10>), ('131072', <synthDriverHandler.VoiceInfo object at 0x05930C70>), ('589824', <synthDriverHandler.VoiceInfo object at 0x05930CD0>), ('196608', <synthDriverHandler.VoiceInfo object at 0x05930D30>), ('196609', <synthDriverHandler.VoiceInfo object at".
Thanks
Ângelo Abrantes


Re: OCRing pdfs using NVDA?

 

Ollie,

          Glad it worked for you and you're happy with the result.  I'm sure a document of that size took several hours to process.  I think the largest I've ever done is a bit over 400 pages, and most are significantly smaller than that.  When you get into large PDF files, even OCR-ed ones, you pretty much have to be able to word search them to make finding that "needle in a haystack" a reasonable task.

          I still can't explain why CTRL+SHIFT+C is not working for you without using pass-through as it works just fine for me when I'm using NVDA 2016.1 and PDF-XChange Viewer together to do an OCR that way.

          I have suggested that others contact Tracker regarding accessibility issues.  While I can and do use screen readers as part of testing things out, and can say what works or doesn't work for "routine stuff," there's nothing like a skilled screen reader user who has to do "the deep stuff" to uncover, and even to explain, accessibility issues I will never encounter.

Brian


Strange appearance of some virtual screen for save as

Cearbhall O'Meadhra
 

I wonder if anyone can tell me what is happening here!

 

I have scanned a document into an image PDF using Abbyyy finereader. The scan completes and I am presented with the completed PDF file on screen. Immediately after I open “SAVE AS” in Adobe a strange virtual screen appears. The screen is inaccessible and prevents me from accessing any key commands. I discovered that I could remove the screen by pressing the left mouse key on the number pad. This cleared the virtual screen away and revealed the normal “Save AS” dialog form.

 

Here is a screen capture of the virtual screen: (the start and finish lines are my own for clarity)

 

;Start ------------------------

AVAiCDialogView

Finish ------------------

 

What is happening?

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...

 

 

 


Re: just made an mp3 file of the tutorial

Lenron
 

I would like it.

On 3/7/16, Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi, Joseph and all,

I was able to convert Brandon's tutorial about gmail to an mp3 file. If
anybody wants it, please let me know and I'll put it on sendspace.

Rosemarie



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Re: Thunderbird saying unknown

Chris Mullins
 

Using the layout submenu in the View menu, I have set Tbird to display only the folder list and the currently selected  folder displaying the list of messages, which is about as bare bones as it gets.  Pressing enter on a message opens the body, esc to return to the list.  In the Layout sub-menu I only have the Vertical view, and folder list items checked.  The tab key just loops arount between the tab control of the currently selected folder, the selected folder in the folder treeview and the currently select message in the list window.  The listed messages details are accessed using the table navigation keys Control Alt Arrows.  It’s a while since I set it up, there may be other settings I made to get it to this state, which I did to make it easy for a friend of mine to use.  NVDA  usually says unknown when it encounters a control or unlabelled icon it can’t interpret.  I get this after pressing enter on a message in the list, when the message body opens but I’ve not experienced any difficulties using it.

 

For completeness, Control n to compose a new message, Control enter to send it. 

 

Cheers

 

Chris  

 

From: Brandon Keith Biggs [mailto:brandonkeithbiggs@...]
Sent: 09 March 2016 00:54
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Thunderbird saying unknown

 

Hello,

I am teaching a student to use Thunderbird with NVDA and when they are reading a message, NVDA will say "unknown" if they hit tab out of the body. It will also say unknown if they hit tab out of the list view of the messages.

This on Windows 8 with the latest version of Thunderbird and the latest version of NVDA.

Thunderbird is really easy to use, but is there an email client that is just bairbones emails and folders?

Thank you,


Re: OCRing pdfs using NVDA?

Mallard <mallard@...>
 

Brian,

You turned on the light in my sleepy brain... lol

Of course, I'd have thought about it... I have to pass the command through to the application...

In any case, my son clicked on the right icon with the mouse, and the programme performed a practically perfect ocr of a huge file - over 700 pages.

I didn't mean to try with such an enormous file, but it was the only one I had at hand that didn't have text in it, and I must say I'm impressed.

I normally use Finereader 12 to recognise image-only files, but that isn't free. This programme is free, and it's a great assett.
I'm sure we could write to the devs to see if something can be done about readability of the menus. Because if I use a mouse, the various options are read out by NVDA, so I think something could be done.

Or perhaps someone could develop an add-on?

I have no knowledge of coding, so I can't tell whether it's feasible or not, but it would be interesting to find out.

Meanwhile, thanks for pointing us to this tool.
Ciao,
Ollie


Re: libreoffice 5.1 latest version and nvda

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

NVDA was on when I installed it. I had to hit alt tab to get to the choices like writer or kelp.

-----Original Message-----
From: Kevin Cussick via Groups.io [mailto:the.big.white.shepherd=googlemail.com@groups.io]
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2016 1:32 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] libreoffice 5.1 latest version and nvda

Your correct maybe she didn't install with screen reader running if this has been the case it will not switch all the accessibility stuff on and nothing much will read.

On 08/03/2016 17:30, Governor staten wrote:
I'm wondering what the issue is. I installed it and it works. It sees
you have an accessibility tool running and it works. Should be all
there is to it. Someone please correct me if I'm srong.




On 3/8/2016 12:12 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
I couldn't get it to work.



On 3/8/2016 8:40 AM, Josh Kennedy wrote:
hi
i installed libreoffice 5.1 went into options and checked and
unchecked and rechecked the accesibility checkbox. i am happy to
report libreoffice 5.1 and later work great with NVDA I can even get
font info with capslock f. nearly everything seems to be accessible.
spell check is also accessible. if you want a free office suite
working well with NVDA I recommend libreoffice. libreoffice calc
also work very well.





Re: Thunderbird saying unknown

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi, Brandon,

The only email client that I know of that's very simple to use is windows live mail.

Rosemarie

-----Original Message-----
From: Brandon Keith Biggs [mailto:brandonkeithbiggs@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2016 4:54 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Thunderbird saying unknown

Hello,

I am teaching a student to use Thunderbird with NVDA and when they are reading a message, NVDA will say "unknown" if they hit tab out of the body. It will also say unknown if they hit tab out of the list view of the messages.

This on Windows 8 with the latest version of Thunderbird and the latest version of NVDA.


Thunderbird is really easy to use, but is there an email client that is just bairbones emails and folders?

Thank you,


Brandon Keith Biggs <http://brandonkeithbiggs.com/>


Re: java access bridge

Lenron
 

where can I find these files would love to get started with java

On 3/8/16, Chris Mullins <cjmullins29@gmail.com> wrote:
Pete
On a 64-bit version of Windows, both 32 and 64-bit JRE's should be
installed. WindowsAccessBridge-64.dll needs to be in the System32 folder
and WindowsAccessBridge-32.dll in the SysWow64 folder. The latter folder is
for 32-bit programs running on a 64-bit system and NVDA log shows an error
if the 32-bit dll is not present. The Java installers have been useless for
several versions now an I have had to update the folders manually.

Cheers
Chris

Cheers
Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: Pete [mailto:emac00@cogeco.ca]
Sent: 08 March 2016 20:28
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] java access bridge


hi
two things about manually activating java access bridge on windows.
Depending on 32 or 64 bit version of windows the windows access bridge
32 dll file needs to be copied to the windows system32 folder for the 32 bit
windows version and the windows access bridge 64 dll file needs to be copied
to the windows syswow64 folder for the 64 bit version of windows.
Additionally the accessibility.properties file in the Java \ jre [what ever
version U have] \ lib folder needs to be edited and the lines for the access
bridge need to be uncommented.
For some unknown reason to me the java installers do not copy the windows
access bridge 32 or 64 files to the system folders on windows.
I also found the ease of access applet not to be effective in enabling java
access bridge.
I participated in an access bridge discussion in the past on this list.
Apparently no one knows why java access bridge is not fully installed by the
java installers. Not sure who is developing java now but no one has seen
fit to write me back with answers to my questions about this.
Pete







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Thunderbird saying unknown

 

Hello,
I am teaching a student to use Thunderbird with NVDA and when they are reading a message, NVDA will say "unknown" if they hit tab out of the body. It will also say unknown if they hit tab out of the list view of the messages.
This on Windows 8 with the latest version of Thunderbird and the latest version of NVDA.

Thunderbird is really easy to use, but is there an email client that is just bairbones emails and folders?
Thank you,


Re: java access bridge

Chris Mullins
 

Pete
On a 64-bit version of Windows, both 32 and 64-bit JRE's should be installed. WindowsAccessBridge-64.dll needs to be in the System32 folder and WindowsAccessBridge-32.dll in the SysWow64 folder. The latter folder is for 32-bit programs running on a 64-bit system and NVDA log shows an error if the 32-bit dll is not present. The Java installers have been useless for several versions now an I have had to update the folders manually.

Cheers
Chris

Cheers
Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: Pete [mailto:emac00@cogeco.ca]
Sent: 08 March 2016 20:28
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] java access bridge


hi
two things about manually activating java access bridge on windows.
Depending on 32 or 64 bit version of windows the windows access bridge
32 dll file needs to be copied to the windows system32 folder for the 32 bit windows version and the windows access bridge 64 dll file needs to be copied to the windows syswow64 folder for the 64 bit version of windows. Additionally the accessibility.properties file in the Java \ jre [what ever version U have] \ lib folder needs to be edited and the lines for the access bridge need to be uncommented.
For some unknown reason to me the java installers do not copy the windows access bridge 32 or 64 files to the system folders on windows.
I also found the ease of access applet not to be effective in enabling java access bridge.
I participated in an access bridge discussion in the past on this list. Apparently no one knows why java access bridge is not fully installed by the java installers. Not sure who is developing java now but no one has seen fit to write me back with answers to my questions about this.
Pete


Re: Antivirus

Gene
 

you should be able to instruct the program not to interfere with System Restore.  You may find that this or that program improperly flags this or that file or program as well.  It is a much better solution to find out how to stop your program from interfering with something or improperly flagging it than to only use programs that don't do this.  You are unnecessarily limiting your choices and you may find in the future, that the program you decide to use causes some sort of problem with a new program or may have a bad update that causes the program to interfere with something until the manufacturer corrects the update or until you tell the program not to do this.
 
Gene
----- Originl amessage -----

Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2016 1:03 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Antivirus

This is Marv here.  One thing I have noticed over the years regarding some
antivirus programs is that they interfere with system restore.
Surprisingly, windows defender does not do this.  Just something else to
consider when looking for a program.-----Original Message-----
From: Angela Delicata via Groups.io
Sent: Monday, March 07, 2016 5:04 AM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Antivirus

Hi,
I use eset nod32.


Il 07/03/2016 13:33, Kevin Cussick via Groups.io ha scritto:
> I am using sophus and after a bit of a shaky start I now have it on 3 of
> my many computers and it is Ok seems to be fully accessible. I admit I
> have not looked around to see what the ratings are like but I might now
> that I have thought about it.
>
> On 07/03/2016 12:11, Gene wrote:
>> There are other e-mail programs with much better ratings that are
>> reasonably accessible and don't slow things down.  Knowledgeable
>> people differ on whether Windows Defender is adequate and people
>> should read about the subject.  When Kim Komando recommends that
>> people use something else and Ars Technica (spelling) does as well,
>> that in my opinion, is cause for serious consideration.
>>
>> With reasonable care, Windows Defender may be alright but it has poor
>> detection rates compared with many programs.
>>
>> Gene
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>
>> From: Brian's Mail list account
>> Sent: Monday, March 07, 2016 2:12 AM
>> To: nvda@groups.io
>> Subject: Re: [nvda] Antivirus
>>
>>
>> Well, all anti virus programs tend to have  one weakness, even if that is
>> that you cannot actually use it with a screenreader or it slows down
>> stuff.
>>
>> I have to say that msse/defender is maybe not as featured as  many, but
>> unless you are the sort of person who goes recklessly clicking dodgy
>> links
>> in phishing emails or web sites, thus far checks with other products
>> on my
>> machines have not revealed anything very malicious. The pundits always
>> have
>> their favourites, and certainly do not have the added issues of
>> accessibility, but we have to live in the world as it is, as I'm
>> constantly
>> reminded, so compromise is often what one ends up with.
>>   Brian
>>
>> bglists@...
>> Sent via blueyonder.
>> Please address personal email to:-
>> briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
>> in the display name field.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
>> To: <nvda@groups.io>
>> Sent: Monday, March 07, 2016 5:42 AM
>> Subject: Re: [nvda] Antivirus
>>
>>
>> As has been repeatedly discussed here, it's not a question of how
>> accessible
>> the program is.  Many advisors say that it is better to use something
>> else
>> because it isn't as good at detecting malware as they think it should be.
>>
>> It seems to me that this program is contraversial enough that when people
>> ask about it, those who discuss it should say that there is a
>> contraversy,
>> and what it is.  I believe that those considering using the program
>> should
>> be encouraged to look into the contraversy.
>>
>> Gene
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>
>> From: Arlene
>> Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2016 9:52 PM
>> To: nvda@groups.io
>> Subject: Re: [nvda] Antivirus
>>
>>
>> Yes, I hear it works well for 8 and 10.
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Rosemarie Chavarria [mailto:knitqueen2007@...]
>> Sent: March-06-16 4:41 PM
>> To: nvda@groups.io
>> Subject: Re: [nvda] Antivirus
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi, Nut,
>>
>> I'm using windows defender and it's working great for me.
>>
>> Rosemarie
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 3/6/2016 3:39 AM, Supanut Leepaisomboon wrote:
>>
>>    Hi all,
>>
>>    I'm thinking of upgrading to Windows 10, probably during my summer
>> holiday
>> of this year, and I'm wondering, will Windows Defender be good enough? I
>> have Sandboxie and VMware installed (anything I think is suspicious I
>> either
>> run them in Sandboxie or VMware). I'm giving Nod32 a particular
>> attention as
>> I do have access to a licensed copy through my university.
>>
>>    If Windows Defender is not good enough, is Nod32 (any version)
>> accessible
>> with NVDA? In terms of being able to read and properly interact with
>> alert
>> dialogs and settings windows.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>







Re: Tutorial on using the Gmail Web View with NVDA

Kevin Cussick
 

no it has been done as said before no point in reinventing the wheel.

On 08/03/2016 17:45, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
I forgot the actual URL for the video but if you want to convert it to
mp3, the URL is

www.youtube-mp3.org.

Hope this helps.



On 3/8/2016 4:36 AM, Kevin Cussick via Groups.io wrote:
if someone sends me the url I will convert to mp3 and can make
available to anyone who wants it.

On 07/03/2016 18:14, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
I think that's a great idea.



On 3/7/2016 9:36 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hi Brandon,

After seeing the responses to this tutorial, I’d like to request
trying to see if Cool Blind Tech or similar entity can carry an mp3
version of this tutorial.

Cheers,

Joseph

*From:*Brandon Keith Biggs [mailto:brandonkeithbiggs@gmail.com]
*Sent:* Sunday, March 6, 2016 9:58 PM
*To:* nvda@groups.io
*Subject:* [nvda] Tutorial on using the Gmail Web View with NVDA

Hello,

I made a tutorial on how to use the gmail web view with NVDA:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phClLFt2-dQ&feature=youtu.be

The instructions are also in the description.

Please let me know if you have any questions or comments. I use the
gmail web view for all my email.

Thanks,

Brandon Keith Biggs <http://brandonkeithbiggs.com/>



Re: libreoffice 5.1 latest version and nvda

Kevin Cussick
 

Your correct maybe she didn't install with screen reader running if this has been the case it will not switch all the accessibility stuff on and nothing much will read.

On 08/03/2016 17:30, Governor staten wrote:
I'm wondering what the issue is. I installed it and it works. It sees
you have an accessibility tool running and it works. Should be all there
is to it. Someone please correct me if I'm srong.




On 3/8/2016 12:12 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
I couldn't get it to work.



On 3/8/2016 8:40 AM, Josh Kennedy wrote:
hi
i installed libreoffice 5.1 went into options and checked and
unchecked and rechecked the accesibility checkbox. i am happy to
report libreoffice 5.1 and later work great with NVDA I can even get
font info with capslock f. nearly everything seems to be accessible.
spell check is also accessible. if you want a free office suite
working well with NVDA I recommend libreoffice. libreoffice calc also
work very well.




Re: OCRing pdfs using NVDA?

 

Ollie,

            I've used this program primarily with JAWS, and it is not accessible in its entirety, but it is for performing OCR and saving the files.  The command CTRL+SHIFT+C is noted in the NVDA keystrokes documentation as being special use for the program Poedit, and if this key sequence is not turned on/off based on whether one is in Poedit that could be your problem.  In which case you'd have to use NVDA+F2 prior to hitting CTRL+SHIFT+C when you're in PDF-XChange Viewer to pass the keystroke through.  I cannot speak specifically to the interaction between NVDA and PDF-XChange reader in its entirety.  I'm using NVDA 2016.1 and when I'm in the program CTRL+Shift+C brings up the OCR dialog and it is announced as such by NVDA.  When I use ALT+F to open the File Menu and use down arrow to traverse it nothing is announced, but if I move my mouse pointer over the various menu options they are.  At first I thought this might be a result of the NVDA default in mouse preferences of having mouse tracking on, but even when I turn mouse tracking off I get nothing announced in the file menu via keyboard navigation. ALT+F,S will save a copy with the OCR embedded if you've done OCR and it's complete, even if NVDA does not announce it.

            The only thing I recommend screen reader users employ PDF-XChange Viewer for is the OCR function.  The only things I've taught are opening a document, triggering OCR, and saving a document and all of those things are announced in JAWS, but NVDA is not on the menu itself but when the respective dialogs for open and save are brought up via ALT+F,O and ALT+F,S those are announced.  For reading stick to Adobe Reader (or your own favorite if you have one).

Brian