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Setting up NVDA for Braille

John J. Boyer
 

We have downloaded nVDA and the drivers for the Freedom Scientific
Braille displays. I have a Pac Mate display. NVDA seems to be working
fine. However, I am deaf-blind and cannot use speech. Please tell me
what choice my sighted assistant should pick on the Braille menu.

Thanks,
John

--
John J. Boyer; President,
AbilitiesSoft, Inc.
Email: john.boyer@abilitiessoft.org
Website: http://www.abilitiessoft.org
Status: 501(C)(3) Nonprofit
Location: Madison, Wisconsin USA
Mission: To develop softwares and provide STEM services for people with
disabilities which are available at no cost.


Re: NVDA-2016.2 Slows Down with Firefox

Kwork
 

I find that things for me move better by using separate windows rather than
tabs. Maybe try that as an option.
Options, general
Open new windows in a new tab instead
Make sure it's unchecked.
It may not fix things for you, but something to try. You can always go back
in and recheck it if you do prefer tab browsing.
Travis

----- Original Message -----
From: "Andre Fisher" <andrefisher729@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2016 9:17 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA-2016.2 Slows Down with Firefox


I don't think NVDA is slowing down, rather, Firefox, through its
latest updates, have begun to become less and less accessible. I am
not speaking from experience, however, because I do not face this
issue. Opening many tabs is not recommended in the first place.

On 6/7/16, Rob <captinlogic@gmail.com> wrote:
System: Windows 7, NVDA 2016.2, Firefox, any version.
This has always been an ongoing problem, but it seems to be more prevalent
now.
If you have a number of tabs open in Firefox, NVDA will begin to slow down
appreciably in the program. Responses to key presses are delayed and using
the browser becomes problematic and inefficient. The only solution is to
restart firefox.
In previous versions of NVDA, this decrease in responsivness took a while
to
manifest--sometimes I could work for a whole day and NVDA would not slow
down until the next.
However, now it barely takes six to ten hours for this slowness to occur.
The only way to reproduce this step is to to work in Firefox for a while,
with a number of tabs open.
I do not know if this same slowness occurs in Internet Explorer, Chrome or
Edge.
I would like to know if others have experienced this decrease in
performance, and what--if any--solutions are available to counteract this
problem.




Re: NVDA-2016.2 Slows Down with Firefox

Kwork
 

Yes, but I've had this behavior in all three of the main browsers, with both
NVDA and Jaws, so I just close and re-open Firefox, my main browser, once in
a while, and only use the others when necessary.
Win 7, 64-bit.
Travis

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rob" <captinlogic@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2016 9:03 AM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA-2016.2 Slows Down with Firefox


System: Windows 7, NVDA 2016.2, Firefox, any version.
This has always been an ongoing problem, but it seems to be more prevalent
now.
If you have a number of tabs open in Firefox, NVDA will begin to slow down
appreciably in the program. Responses to key presses are delayed and using
the browser becomes problematic and inefficient. The only solution is to
restart firefox.
In previous versions of NVDA, this decrease in responsivness took a while to
manifest--sometimes I could work for a whole day and NVDA would not slow
down until the next.
However, now it barely takes six to ten hours for this slowness to occur.
The only way to reproduce this step is to to work in Firefox for a while,
with a number of tabs open.
I do not know if this same slowness occurs in Internet Explorer, Chrome or
Edge.
I would like to know if others have experienced this decrease in
performance, and what--if any--solutions are available to counteract this
problem.


Older computer running nvda and windows vista.

marvin kotler
 

Good afternoon list, Marv here.  Sorry, but have another question.  I just received an older computer which is a laptop.  It is running vista 32 bit and the latest version of nvda.  Which antivirus program if needed is accessible with nvda.  It has windows defender, but like I said, I just received this computer and know nothing about things regarding it.  Any help would be appreciated.
Marv


Re: how to get true voice working in nvda

Rui Fontes
 

In this list, a representative of a company...

Rui Fontes

-----Mensagem Original-----
De: Ron Canazzi
Data: tera-feira, 7 de junho de 2016 21:42
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: Re: [nvda] how to get true voice working in nvda

Hi Rui,


Be careful of how you state things in e-mails. You answered Patrick's
statements which referred both to pirates and companies within the same
paragraph.


One could legitimately ask: so which are you Rui: a pirate of a company
person?

On 6/7/2016 10:52 AM, Rui Fontes wrote:
Patrick Le Baudour wrote:
Except that people from different companies, those that develop such
products at a cost, have a presence here, and if the image given by the
community is one of people that never want to pay for their products,
they may give up making efforts to solve some nvda users problems.

As many know, I am one of those...

Rui Fontes
Tiflotecnia, Lda.





--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Re: question regarding windows defender

Patrick Le Baudour
 

Hi,

In Windows 10, Windows Defender is indeed also an antivirus program. It is activated by default if there is no other antivirus.

-- Patrick

Le 07/06/2016 à 23:17, marvin kotler a écrit :
Good afternoon list. First, running windows ten and the latest version
of nvda. My question is is windows defender an antivirus program along
with its other things? If not, what is free and accessible with nvda.
Any help would be appreciated;
Marv


question regarding windows defender

marvin kotler
 

Good afternoon list.  First, running windows ten and the latest version of nvda.  My question is is windows defender an antivirus program along with its other things? If not, what is free and accessible with nvda.  Any help would be appreciated;
Marv


Re: how to get true voice working in nvda

Gene
 

Any properly run list of this type does not allow discussion of how to use or how to get illegal software.  It's illegal and public lists of this type do not allow such discussions because it exposes the list to potential legal problems.  If you are tired of hearing about it, then don't do it.  Continued violations may cause members who do so to be moderated.  I am not discussing what should be.  I am discussing standard policies of lists to protect themselves from potential legal liability.  If a list supports use of or helps people get illegal software, the list becomes an accomplice and subject to prosecution.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: mattias
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2016 7:19 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] how to get true voice working in nvda

so dont read and use the delete key

i'm so tired about talk aboutt the elegal talk


On 2016-06-07 14:09, Rui Fontes wrote:
> Mattias, it is not a question of what each of us do or don't do.
> It is simply a question of what we should discuss on a public forum...
>
> If I want ilegal software I will find for it in a specialized place, not in
> a public forum of a legal software...
>
> Regards,
>
> Rui
>
> -----Mensagem Original-----
> De: mattias
> Data: terça-feira, 7 de junho de 2016 00:17
> Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Assunto: Re: [nvda] how to get true voice working in nvda
>
> rui
>
> first of all
>
> sometimes i are so tired about all people says some things are ilegal
>
> are you rui allways legal?
>
> folks
>
> switch to to the nvdainfo list instead there all sorts of discutions are
> allowed
>
>
>
>
> Den 2016-06-06 kl. 17:56, skrev Rui Fontes:
>> Please, since that site have content not legal, change the conversation to
>> a
>> private channel...
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Rui Fontes
>> Tiflotecnia, Lda.
>>
>>
>> -----Mensagem Original-----
>> De: Peter Beasley
>> Data: segunda-feira, 6 de junho de 2016 16:38
>> Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>> Assunto: Re: [nvda] how to get true voice working in nvda
>>
>> Didn't see any tts link on the site.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Bobby
>> Sent: Monday, June 06, 2016 3:41 PM
>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>> Subject: [nvda] how to get true voice working in nvda
>>
>> Well you can get true voice at www.grossgang.com.  His name is Jake
>> gross.  Just click on the link that says tts and down the page you
>> should see a link called sapi voices.  Good luck
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>  
>
>
>
>
>




Re: how to get true voice working in nvda

Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Rui,


Be careful of how you state things in e-mails. You answered Patrick's statements which referred both to pirates and companies within the same paragraph.


One could legitimately ask: so which are you Rui: a pirate of a company person?

On 6/7/2016 10:52 AM, Rui Fontes wrote:
Patrick Le Baudour wrote:
Except that people from different companies, those that develop such
products at a cost, have a presence here, and if the image given by the
community is one of people that never want to pay for their products,
they may give up making efforts to solve some nvda users problems.

As many know, I am one of those...

Rui Fontes
Tiflotecnia, Lda.




--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Re: espeak n g no good it sneezes on some words

 

I have replaced the data from old espeak over and the syntth works a lot better one person had trouble however, espeak at least the word stuff works as I expect it so I am not to worried.

On 8/06/2016 3:31 a.m., Pete wrote:

as the s line says espeak n g makes a buzzing or sneezing sound along
with some words.
NOT COOL AT ALL
along with the funny noises the voice flutters
This is default espeakng max voice set to en...
windows 7 x64 pro clean install
nvda installed using default settings except for speed set to 100 percent
Can I replace the espeak n g with the older one by copying the old one
over the new one in the program files x86 \ nvda folder?
Thanks for any help!
Pete



.


Re: NVDA-2016.2 Slows Down with Firefox

 

I have noticed this with my brother and dad who use firefox and chrome, but they have at least 5-10 windows of each.
I rarely have more than 2 tabs open.
The only time I do this is when I for example need to get files but I rarely use more than 1 at a time maybe thats showing my old dos days.
While I could do it now, I don't see any reason to do it or at least as a perminant fixture.

On 8/06/2016 4:03 a.m., Rob wrote:
System: Windows 7, NVDA 2016.2, Firefox, any version.
This has always been an ongoing problem, but it seems to be more prevalent now.
If you have a number of tabs open in Firefox, NVDA will begin to slow down appreciably in the program. Responses to key presses are delayed and using the browser becomes problematic and inefficient. The only solution is to restart firefox.
In previous versions of NVDA, this decrease in responsivness took a while to manifest--sometimes I could work for a whole day and NVDA would not slow down until the next.
However, now it barely takes six to ten hours for this slowness to occur. The only way to reproduce this step is to to work in Firefox for a while, with a number of tabs open.
I do not know if this same slowness occurs in Internet Explorer, Chrome or Edge.
I would like to know if others have experienced this decrease in performance, and what--if any--solutions are available to counteract this problem.


.


Re: espeak n g no good it sneezes on some words

Pete <emac00@...>
 

ok, got

speechPlayerInEspeak-0.3

max works much better now.

Thanks!

Pete

On 6/7/2016 11:54 AM, Andre Fisher wrote:
If you switched to a different synthesizer and the buzzing noise
persists, you might be seeing the effect of playing a sound for
spelling errors while typing function. Read the What's New for more
information, but press Control+NVDA+K to turn it off in the Keyboard
Settings dialog.
As it relates to eSpeak NG being overwritten by older eSpeak, this
cannot be done. The best option is to download the SpeechPlayer in
eSpeak add-on: http://files.nvaccess.org/nvda-addons/speechPlayerInEspeak-0.3.nvda-addon
and use to the variant of your liking.

On 6/7/16, Sukil Etxenike via Groups.io <sukiletxe=yahoo.es@groups.io> wrote:
Hi,
You can file an issue on GitHub, at http://github.com/espeak-ng/espeak-ng .
Hopefully it will be fixed, or at least you will be given an explanation.
Regards,
Sukil
El 7 jun 2016, a las 17:31, Pete <emac00@cogeco.ca> escribió:


as the s line says espeak n g makes a buzzing or sneezing sound along
with some words.
NOT COOL AT ALL
along with the funny noises the voice flutters
This is default espeakng max voice set to en...
windows 7 x64 pro clean install
nvda installed using default settings except for speed set to 100
percent
Can I replace the espeak n g with the older one by copying the old one
over the new one in the program files x86 \ nvda folder?
Thanks for any help!
Pete






Re: espeak n g no good it sneezes on some words

Jacob Kruger
 

Well, I'd just suggest, at least, trying a couple of other variants - like said, Gene is my current primary one is Gene, and he doesn't seem to have have same issue - even if I set rate to 100%, but, you could also try adjusting inflection, etc., just in case, if you specifically prefer max variant.

Stay well

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, acceptance is versatile"

----- Original Message -----
From: "Pete" <emac00@cogeco.ca>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: 07 June, 2016 6:17 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] espeak n g no good it sneezes on some words



I haven't tryed other voices,

I am using max set to english not english-us.

it's ony a problem when I

1 go to 100% instead of 99% or belo

I don't miss one percent of speed so ok

2 when I need to crank up the speed to get threw a lot of reading like check the Rate boost box and set speed to 50 or 60 %



On 6/7/2016 12:10 PM, Jacob Kruger wrote:
Have you tried other variants, or try changing pitch/inflection?

Ask since, yes, if I switch to english-US, and max variant, does sound at times like a bit of a background huff sound, but, don't hear anything like that with the combination I use most of the time?

Stay well

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, acceptance is versatile"

----- Original Message ----- From: "Pete" <emac00@cogeco.ca>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: 07 June, 2016 5:47 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] espeak n g no good it sneezes on some words



it is random

some times when the space bar is pressed

seems to be tied more to a single key stroke



On 6/7/2016 11:40 AM, Jacob Kruger wrote:
Examples of terms/phrases?

I am currently using eSpeak NG, using gene variant, and set to just english, and haven't come across anything like that, but, would like to try it out.

Stay well

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, acceptance is versatile"

----- Original Message ----- From: "Pete" <emac00@cogeco.ca>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: 07 June, 2016 5:31 PM
Subject: [nvda] espeak n g no good it sneezes on some words



as the s line says espeak n g makes a buzzing or sneezing sound along with some words.
NOT COOL AT ALL
along with the funny noises the voice flutters
This is default espeakng max voice set to en...
windows 7 x64 pro clean install
nvda installed using default settings except for speed set to 100 percent
Can I replace the espeak n g with the older one by copying the old one over the new one in the program files x86 \ nvda folder?
Thanks for any help!
Pete














Re: NVDA-2016.2 Slows Down with Firefox

Andre Fisher
 

I don't think NVDA is slowing down, rather, Firefox, through its
latest updates, have begun to become less and less accessible. I am
not speaking from experience, however, because I do not face this
issue. Opening many tabs is not recommended in the first place.

On 6/7/16, Rob <captinlogic@gmail.com> wrote:
System: Windows 7, NVDA 2016.2, Firefox, any version.
This has always been an ongoing problem, but it seems to be more prevalent
now.
If you have a number of tabs open in Firefox, NVDA will begin to slow down
appreciably in the program. Responses to key presses are delayed and using
the browser becomes problematic and inefficient. The only solution is to
restart firefox.
In previous versions of NVDA, this decrease in responsivness took a while to
manifest--sometimes I could work for a whole day and NVDA would not slow
down until the next.
However, now it barely takes six to ten hours for this slowness to occur.
The only way to reproduce this step is to to work in Firefox for a while,
with a number of tabs open.
I do not know if this same slowness occurs in Internet Explorer, Chrome or
Edge.
I would like to know if others have experienced this decrease in
performance, and what--if any--solutions are available to counteract this
problem.




Re: espeak n g no good it sneezes on some words

Pete <emac00@...>
 

I haven't tryed other voices,

I am using max set to english not english-us.

it's ony a problem when I

1 go to 100% instead of 99% or belo

I don't miss one percent of speed so ok

2 when I need to crank up the speed to get threw a lot of reading like check the Rate boost box and set speed to 50 or 60 %

On 6/7/2016 12:10 PM, Jacob Kruger wrote:
Have you tried other variants, or try changing pitch/inflection?

Ask since, yes, if I switch to english-US, and max variant, does sound at times like a bit of a background huff sound, but, don't hear anything like that with the combination I use most of the time?

Stay well

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, acceptance is versatile"

----- Original Message ----- From: "Pete" <emac00@cogeco.ca>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: 07 June, 2016 5:47 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] espeak n g no good it sneezes on some words



it is random

some times when the space bar is pressed

seems to be tied more to a single key stroke



On 6/7/2016 11:40 AM, Jacob Kruger wrote:
Examples of terms/phrases?

I am currently using eSpeak NG, using gene variant, and set to just english, and haven't come across anything like that, but, would like to try it out.

Stay well

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, acceptance is versatile"

----- Original Message ----- From: "Pete" <emac00@cogeco.ca>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: 07 June, 2016 5:31 PM
Subject: [nvda] espeak n g no good it sneezes on some words



as the s line says espeak n g makes a buzzing or sneezing sound along with some words.
NOT COOL AT ALL
along with the funny noises the voice flutters
This is default espeakng max voice set to en...
windows 7 x64 pro clean install
nvda installed using default settings except for speed set to 100 percent
Can I replace the espeak n g with the older one by copying the old one over the new one in the program files x86 \ nvda folder?
Thanks for any help!
Pete












Re: espeak n g no good it sneezes on some words

Jacob Kruger
 

Have you tried other variants, or try changing pitch/inflection?

Ask since, yes, if I switch to english-US, and max variant, does sound at times like a bit of a background huff sound, but, don't hear anything like that with the combination I use most of the time?

Stay well

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, acceptance is versatile"

----- Original Message -----
From: "Pete" <emac00@cogeco.ca>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: 07 June, 2016 5:47 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] espeak n g no good it sneezes on some words



it is random

some times when the space bar is pressed

seems to be tied more to a single key stroke



On 6/7/2016 11:40 AM, Jacob Kruger wrote:
Examples of terms/phrases?

I am currently using eSpeak NG, using gene variant, and set to just english, and haven't come across anything like that, but, would like to try it out.

Stay well

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, acceptance is versatile"

----- Original Message ----- From: "Pete" <emac00@cogeco.ca>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: 07 June, 2016 5:31 PM
Subject: [nvda] espeak n g no good it sneezes on some words



as the s line says espeak n g makes a buzzing or sneezing sound along with some words.
NOT COOL AT ALL
along with the funny noises the voice flutters
This is default espeakng max voice set to en...
windows 7 x64 pro clean install
nvda installed using default settings except for speed set to 100 percent
Can I replace the espeak n g with the older one by copying the old one over the new one in the program files x86 \ nvda folder?
Thanks for any help!
Pete









NVDA-2016.2 Slows Down with Firefox

Rob
 

System: Windows 7, NVDA 2016.2, Firefox, any version.
This has always been an ongoing problem, but it seems to be more prevalent now.
If you have a number of tabs open in Firefox, NVDA will begin to slow down appreciably in the program. Responses to key presses are delayed and using the browser becomes problematic and inefficient. The only solution is to restart firefox.
In previous versions of NVDA, this decrease in responsivness took a while to manifest--sometimes I could work for a whole day and NVDA would not slow down until the next.
However, now it barely takes six to ten hours for this slowness to occur. The only way to reproduce this step is to to work in Firefox for a while, with a number of tabs open.
I do not know if this same slowness occurs in Internet Explorer, Chrome or Edge.
I would like to know if others have experienced this decrease in performance, and what--if any--solutions are available to counteract this problem.


Re: espeak n g no good it sneezes on some words

Pete <emac00@...>
 

the fluttering happens when the speed is set to 100 %

it doesn't flutter at 99 %

On 6/7/2016 11:52 AM, Pete wrote:

The fluttering seems to occur when the word or sylable is stressed



On 6/7/2016 11:47 AM, Pete wrote:

it is random

some times when the space bar is pressed

seems to be tied more to a single key stroke



On 6/7/2016 11:40 AM, Jacob Kruger wrote:
Examples of terms/phrases?

I am currently using eSpeak NG, using gene variant, and set to just english, and haven't come across anything like that, but, would like to try it out.

Stay well

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, acceptance is versatile"

----- Original Message ----- From: "Pete" <emac00@cogeco.ca>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: 07 June, 2016 5:31 PM
Subject: [nvda] espeak n g no good it sneezes on some words



as the s line says espeak n g makes a buzzing or sneezing sound along with some words.
NOT COOL AT ALL
along with the funny noises the voice flutters
This is default espeakng max voice set to en...
windows 7 x64 pro clean install
nvda installed using default settings except for speed set to 100 percent
Can I replace the espeak n g with the older one by copying the old one over the new one in the program files x86 \ nvda folder?
Thanks for any help!
Pete













Re: espeak n g no good it sneezes on some words

Andre Fisher
 

If you switched to a different synthesizer and the buzzing noise
persists, you might be seeing the effect of playing a sound for
spelling errors while typing function. Read the What's New for more
information, but press Control+NVDA+K to turn it off in the Keyboard
Settings dialog.
As it relates to eSpeak NG being overwritten by older eSpeak, this
cannot be done. The best option is to download the SpeechPlayer in
eSpeak add-on: http://files.nvaccess.org/nvda-addons/speechPlayerInEspeak-0.3.nvda-addon
and use to the variant of your liking.

On 6/7/16, Sukil Etxenike via Groups.io <sukiletxe=yahoo.es@groups.io> wrote:
Hi,
You can file an issue on GitHub, at http://github.com/espeak-ng/espeak-ng .
Hopefully it will be fixed, or at least you will be given an explanation.
Regards,
Sukil
El 7 jun 2016, a las 17:31, Pete <emac00@cogeco.ca> escribió:


as the s line says espeak n g makes a buzzing or sneezing sound along
with some words.
NOT COOL AT ALL
along with the funny noises the voice flutters
This is default espeakng max voice set to en...
windows 7 x64 pro clean install
nvda installed using default settings except for speed set to 100
percent
Can I replace the espeak n g with the older one by copying the old one
over the new one in the program files x86 \ nvda folder?
Thanks for any help!
Pete







Re: espeak n g no good it sneezes on some words

Pete <emac00@...>
 

The fluttering seems to occur when the word or sylable is stressed

On 6/7/2016 11:47 AM, Pete wrote:

it is random

some times when the space bar is pressed

seems to be tied more to a single key stroke



On 6/7/2016 11:40 AM, Jacob Kruger wrote:
Examples of terms/phrases?

I am currently using eSpeak NG, using gene variant, and set to just english, and haven't come across anything like that, but, would like to try it out.

Stay well

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, acceptance is versatile"

----- Original Message ----- From: "Pete" <emac00@cogeco.ca>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: 07 June, 2016 5:31 PM
Subject: [nvda] espeak n g no good it sneezes on some words



as the s line says espeak n g makes a buzzing or sneezing sound along with some words.
NOT COOL AT ALL
along with the funny noises the voice flutters
This is default espeakng max voice set to en...
windows 7 x64 pro clean install
nvda installed using default settings except for speed set to 100 percent
Can I replace the espeak n g with the older one by copying the old one over the new one in the program files x86 \ nvda folder?
Thanks for any help!
Pete