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Re: Switching from Windows 8.1 to Windows 10

Michael Massey <massey52@...>
 

                Brian.  The number you provided is incorrect for the Microsoft Disability Answer Desk.  The number is 800-9365900. 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian K. Lingard
Sent: Tuesday, December 4, 2018 8:08 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Switching from Windows 8.1 to Windows 10

 

Try calling the Microsoft Disability Answer Desk, +1 (800) 965-5900 they are used to people using screen readers & other access technology.

Yes, MS Tech support is very Mouse oriented.

Brian IK. Lingard

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf of Ján Kulik
Sent: December 4, 2018 8:26
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Switching from Windows 8.1 to Windows 10

 

Hi all, I know it does not belong to the NVDA theme, but I'd like to turn to users, or they do not know about a visually impaired community for Microsoft windows. This is the transition from the Windows 8.1 operating system to Windows 10. Is anyone in this conference able to give me advice on how to upgrade to windows 10?

Thank you in advance for your help.

I do not want to contact Microsoft Tech Support anytime. Even if they were able to advise me, they just ordered me to control my mouse. And we are blind, so we have the right to use a keyboard, not just a mouse.


Begars,
Jan


Re: NVDA not working with links, Again

Jonathan COHN
 

Hello, 

I seem to remember a discussion on WEB AIM where links that have off-screen text for their label don't work with NVDA and a specific browser. I don't remember if it was chrome or firefox. Essential HTML code:
<a ref="someplace" class="icon reply font"><span class="SROnly">Reply</span></a>

Any chance you could get the results of NVDA-F1 and/or the results of jaws-co then I could probably tell if your link is coded this way.
ntrol-alt-F1
Take care!




Re: some questions about chrome

Marten Post Uiterweer
 

Paul,

F6 is an important ke in chrome.
It is the hotkey to cicle between address bar, webpage etc. With this
hotkey you can find sometimes these questions.

Regards, Marten

On Tue, 4 Dec 2018 11:59:06 +0100 "P. Otter" <pam.otter@gmail.com> wrote:

hello all,
my firefox was rather old, i've updated it but i'm not impressed about the new firefox.
so it is time to say bye bye to firefox.
chrome is a lot more quick.
but i've some questions about chrome i hope there is some one who can help me.
1 when i've  visit a web page, chrome asks me to save the password and name.
yes or no.
but when i try to find yes with the arrow keys, the question is disappeared.
I can'nt find it back.
but I've found out that i can repeat is by pressing alt plus shift plus a.
is there a possibility to geve yes or no with a special key?
question 2
I visit a page but I do'nt want to save the password, because I don't know for sure if i come back on that page.
after a few times I visit the page i want to save the password and name          yet.
how can i ask now chrome to save the name and password?
thanks in advance
paul otter



Re: Switching from Windows 8.1 to Windows 10

 

On Tue, Dec 4, 2018 at 10:07 AM, Brian K. Lingard wrote:
Yes, MS Tech support is very Mouse oriented.
It's not just MS Tech Support.  General technical support is aimed at the primary audience, and that would be individuals who are sighted.

You are absolutely correct that any screen reader user, or other assistive technology user, that needs support with Microsoft products should contact the Microsoft Disability Answer Desk at (800) 936-5900.  The fact that they provide dedicated support to AT users at no charge is just huge, and they've proven helpful when I've run into issues when working with clients that I could not fix.

Also, there is a dedicated group here on Groups.io for Windows 10 for Screen Reader Users.  Send an e-mail message to  win10+help@win10.groups.io to get an automated response with all the subscribe/unsubscribe and other information related to interaction with that group.
 
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A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

          ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back

 

 


Re: thunderbird 60 for screen reader users:

 

This add-on allows to switch through several exploration modes more easily. I don't know how to explain it properly but definitely if you're interested it worth trying.
Em 04/12/2018 12:40, Ján Kulik escreveu:

I also confirm that thunderbirt version 60.3.2 NVDA does not make my problems in Window 8.1. My question to the user who is mentioning the OBL path. what is it and what does it do with NVDA?


Re: Switching from Windows 8.1 to Windows 10

Brian K. Lingard
 

Try calling the Microsoft Disability Answer Desk, +1 (800) 965-5900 they are used to people using screen readers & other access technology.

Yes, MS Tech support is very Mouse oriented.

Brian IK. Lingard

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf of Ján Kulik
Sent: December 4, 2018 8:26
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Switching from Windows 8.1 to Windows 10

 

Hi all, I know it does not belong to the NVDA theme, but I'd like to turn to users, or they do not know about a visually impaired community for Microsoft windows. This is the transition from the Windows 8.1 operating system to Windows 10. Is anyone in this conference able to give me advice on how to upgrade to windows 10?

Thank you in advance for your help.

I do not want to contact Microsoft Tech Support anytime. Even if they were able to advise me, they just ordered me to control my mouse. And we are blind, so we have the right to use a keyboard, not just a mouse.


Begars,
Jan


Re: What are Guide and Leasey?

Brian K. Lingard
 

Dear Brian's Mail list Acct. & List:
While Dolphin sells Guide, am told the publisher is here in Canada.

Problem with Menu driven programs is if something changes on a web site you use, you are dead in the water until the publ0isher issues a patch to work with the new web site requirement.
Brian K. Lingard


From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf of Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: December 4, 2018 2:39
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] What are Guide and Leasey?

Guide is a piece of integrated software sold by Dolphin that allows people who do not want to learn windows to access certain tasks in a self voicing program. The last one I saw had basic email word processing OCR and the like but had the naffest web browser I've ever seen. grin.
Brian

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From: "Kwork" <istherelife@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2018 1:39 AM
Subject: [nvda] What are Guide and Leasey?

So as not to hijack another thread where these two programs are mentioned,
I thought I'd create a new thread.

In the TextNav thread, David Goldfield mentioned Guide and Leasey. I just
wondered what these two programs are. Thanks.

Travi


Re: thunderbird 60 for screen reader users:

Jacob Kruger
 

I've been using thunderbird 60 for a while now, with no real hassles that have noticed.


Running under windows 10, 64 bit if relevant.


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile...but, acceptance is versatile..."

On 2018-12-04 3:45 PM, zahra wrote:
hello every one.
as you know, firefox quantum with multiprocess support, caused many
issues, slowness, crashes or instibilities for screen reader users.
i am curious and wish that know, does thunderbird 60 has the issues of
firefox quantum which i mentioned?
thunderbird 60 like new versions of firefox, support photon and
quantum css, but fortunately does not support multiprocess until now.


Re: thunderbird 60 for screen reader users:

Ján Kulik
 

I also confirm that thunderbirt version 60.3.2 NVDA does not make my problems in Window 8.1. My question to the user who is mentioning the OBL path. what is it and what does it do with NVDA?


Re: thunderbird 60 for screen reader users:

Ron Canazzi
 

I am using Thunderbird 60.32 with NVDA 2018.3 (latest stable release) and I have no problems.  Various JAWS users have experienced some issues.  JAWS support for Thunderbird seems still to be somewhat shaky.

On 12/4/2018 8:45 AM, zahra wrote:
hello every one.
as you know, firefox quantum with multiprocess support, caused many
issues, slowness, crashes or instibilities for screen reader users.
i am curious and wish that know, does thunderbird 60 has the issues of
firefox quantum which i mentioned?
thunderbird 60 like new versions of firefox, support photon and
quantum css, but fortunately does not support multiprocess until now.
--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Re: thunderbird 60 for screen reader users:

 

I just update my Thunderbird. Here it's all right. I'm using Win 10 64 bits if it makes any difference.
However, I noticed the issue that everybody was talking about regarding the attached files. To solve it, I'm using an add-on called OBJPad.
With the object nav mode I can simply select the file from the list of attachments as we used to do in previous versions.
I believe this function is native from  NVDA without any add-on, but it's a little harder to find out how it works so I ended up downloading and using something easier.
Em 04/12/2018 11:45, zahra escreveu:

hello every one.
as you know, firefox quantum with multiprocess support, caused many
issues, slowness, crashes or instibilities for screen reader users.
i am curious and wish that know, does thunderbird 60 has the issues of
firefox quantum which i mentioned?
thunderbird 60 like new versions of firefox, support photon and
quantum css, but fortunately does not support multiprocess until now.



thunderbird 60 for screen reader users:

 

hello every one.
as you know, firefox quantum with multiprocess support, caused many
issues, slowness, crashes or instibilities for screen reader users.
i am curious and wish that know, does thunderbird 60 has the issues of
firefox quantum which i mentioned?
thunderbird 60 like new versions of firefox, support photon and
quantum css, but fortunately does not support multiprocess until now.

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By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali


Switching from Windows 8.1 to Windows 10

Ján Kulik
 

Hi all, I know it does not belong to the NVDA theme, but I'd like to turn to users, or they do not know about a visually impaired community for Microsoft windows. This is the transition from the Windows 8.1 operating system to Windows 10. Is anyone in this conference able to give me advice on how to upgrade to windows 10?
Thank you in advance for your help.
I do not want to contact Microsoft Tech Support anytime. Even if they were able to advise me, they just ordered me to control my mouse. And we are blind, so we have the right to use a keyboard, not just a mouse.


Begars,
Jan


Re: NVDA reading incorrect content when focus is on the Main frame of the page

Gene
 

Are you asking about submitting the site to the state of Texas?  I don't know what their standards are, if that is what you are asking.  The problem appears to me to be minor, but I'm not sure if I'm experiencing the problems as you are since I'm using old versions of Chrome and NVDA. 
 
Do you want to submit the question to a place that might be able to give you knowledgeable advice?  List members might be able to tell you where you might get such advice.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2018 6:54 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA reading incorrect content when focus is on the Main frame of the page

Would this be an impact while submitting the product for Texas submission? Is it something that's impacting big time.
Please confirm.


Re: NVDA reading incorrect content when focus is on the Main frame of the page

tarveen.kaur@...
 

Would this be an impact while submitting the product for Texas submission? Is it something that's impacting big time.
Please confirm.


Re: some questions about chrome

Vlad Dragomir
 

Hello,

 

Here’s an attempt to answer:

  1. I don’t think there is another hotkey for that, but honestly I don’t think we need one. Pressing alt+shift+a and choosing between yes and no seems quick enough to me.
  2. Settings/passwords. That’s where everything related to passwords can be dealt with.

Hope this will help a little.

 

Vlad.


some questions about chrome

P. Otter
 

hello all,
my firefox was rather old, i've updated it but i'm not impressed about the new firefox.
so it is time to say bye bye to firefox.
chrome is a lot more quick.
but i've some questions about chrome i hope there is some one who can help me.
1 when i've  visit a web page, chrome asks me to save the password and name.
yes or no.
but when i try to find yes with the arrow keys, the question is disappeared.
I can'nt find it back.
but I've found out that i can repeat is by pressing alt plus shift plus a.
is there a possibility to geve yes or no with a special key?
question 2
I visit a page but I do'nt want to save the password, because I don't know for sure if i come back on that page.
after a few times I visit the page i want to save the password and name          yet.
how can i ask now chrome to save the name and password?
thanks in advance
paul otter


Re: What are Guide and Leasey?

Peter Beasley
 

                It is also over priced.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: 04 December 2018 07:39
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] What are Guide and Leasey?

 

Guide is a piece of integrated software sold by Dolphin that allows people

who do not want to learn windows to access certain tasks in a self voicing

program. The last one I saw had basic email word processing OCR and the like

but had the naffest web browser  I've ever seen. grin.

Brian

 

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----- Original Message -----

From: "Kwork" <istherelife@...>

To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>

Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2018 1:39 AM

Subject: [nvda] What are Guide and Leasey?

 

 

> So as not to hijack another thread where these two programs are mentioned,

> I thought I'd create a new thread.

> In the TextNav thread, David Goldfield mentioned Guide and Leasey. I just

> wondered what these two programs are. Thanks.

> Travis

>

>

 

 

 

 


Re: What are Guide and Leasey?

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

So I'm assuming then they are tackling a similar market albeit in a different way.
Guide is OK but send it a big docx file or pdf and it tends to fall over.

In my experience.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "JM Casey" <jmcasey@teksavvy.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2018 1:44 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] What are Guide and Leasey?


I've not heard of Guide before, but Leasey is a set of JAWS scripts provided by a third party for users of that screen-reader. They are supposed to automate certain tasks and make things "easier" for the user in some way, but I've never quite been able to figure out exactly how, even looking at the company's website. I suppose, as suggested above, they change the interface the user interacts with certain applications, making them more menu-driven.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kwork
Sent: December 3, 2018 8:40 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] What are Guide and Leasey?

So as not to hijack another thread where these two programs are mentioned, I thought I'd create a new thread.

In the TextNav thread, David Goldfield mentioned Guide and Leasey. I just wondered what these two programs are. Thanks.

Travis


Re: What are Guide and Leasey?

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

Guide is a piece of integrated software sold by Dolphin that allows people who do not want to learn windows to access certain tasks in a self voicing program. The last one I saw had basic email word processing OCR and the like but had the naffest web browser I've ever seen. grin.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Kwork" <istherelife@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2018 1:39 AM
Subject: [nvda] What are Guide and Leasey?


So as not to hijack another thread where these two programs are mentioned, I thought I'd create a new thread.

In the TextNav thread, David Goldfield mentioned Guide and Leasey. I just wondered what these two programs are. Thanks.

Travis