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Microsofts blog on the edge and chrome merge

 

I haven't seen this posted yet, so I wanted to share the below blog post from Microsoft themselves. Personally, this is great for developers! Less accessibility tinkering, in my opinion. Also, since chrome based stuff is open source, anybody can develop and code for accessibility. Microsoft even said they want to do this to make web accessibility better but no, Edge is not going away. Nowhere has anybody ever said edge is going away and if they did, they are wrong and can't read.

https://blogs.windows.com/windowsexperience/2018/12/06/microsoft-edge-making-the-web-better-through-more-open-source-collaboration/


Re: Vocalizer from Tiflotechnia

Rui Fontes
 

Hello!

1 - Nuance do not have anything with the NVDA addons for Vocalizer and Eloquence. They only sell the licenses to CodeFactory, and CodeFactory as a distributor, sells to Tiflotecnia;

2 - If you prefere a driver that don't works properly to a driver not updated but that works, it is your choice;

3 - We will release the update as soon as we are ready to do it.

Best regards,

Rui Fontes
Tiflotecnia, Lda.



Às 01:30 de 07/12/2018, Luis Carlos Gonzáles Moráles escreveu:

Maybe by the next millennium shall be readdy, but still exagerating. But I really want the update to be happening, or in the complicated things: Can Nuance Communications, INC. resume the development of the AddOn?
Yes, I'm currently using Code Factory's Eloquence and Vocalizer unified addons, but the problem with the vocalizer ones is that say all doesn't work, neaither auto-language switching, unless it's enabled in the vocalizer settings.
Nimer Jaber wrote:
Not never. It was all supposed to be in an update that was supposed to be released two years ago, and this individual still gets on this list and tells us "not yet". Maybe by 2030 we will see this update.

On Thu, Dec 6, 2018 at 5:37 PM Rui Fontes <rui.fontes@tiflotecnia.com <mailto:rui.fontes@tiflotecnia.com>> wrote:

Not yet...

Rui Fontes
Tiflotecnia, Lda.



Às 13:13 de 06/12/2018, Chris Shook escreveu:
> Hi,
> Did Tiflotechnia ever update their voice list with the new
voices such
> as Nathan, Susan, etc?
> Chris
>
>
>
>





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Re: NVDA reading dialog boxes

Chris
 

You would have thought so wouldnt you?

Those dialogs have never been read out  as far as I know

 

 

From: Don H
Sent: 07 December 2018 13:55
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA reading dialog boxes

 

Running latest beta of NVDA on a Win 10 1809 system.

while in the NVDA UI if I go to help then about NVDA does not read the

dialog box it only says OK.  If you open up the check for updates or

addon updates NVDA only says close where I thought it always said No

updates available in the past

 

 

 

 


Re: NVDA reading dialog boxes

Tyler Spivey
 

NVDA+CTRL+o, alt+d to check Report object descriptions, enter. Try again.

On 12/7/2018 5:54 AM, Don H wrote:
Running latest beta of NVDA on a Win 10 1809 system.
while in the NVDA UI if I go to help then about NVDA does not read the
dialog box it only says OK.  If you open up the check for updates or
addon updates NVDA only says close where I thought it always said No
updates available in the past




NVDA reading dialog boxes

Don H
 

Running latest beta of NVDA on a Win 10 1809 system.
while in the NVDA UI if I go to help then about NVDA does not read the dialog box it only says OK. If you open up the check for updates or addon updates NVDA only says close where I thought it always said No updates available in the past


Re: Ask about learning a new language using screen reader.

 

Hello,
May I ask what this app is like?
That is, what it does? It's for Android, iOS or even Windows?
Em 07/12/2018 09:24, The Gamages via Groups.Io escreveu:

Hello,
 
Just another thought on this subject, Linguaphone do, or did an audio only package and it is very good, maybe worth asking them.
 
Best Regards, Jim.
 
From: 特種兵
Sent: Friday, December 07, 2018 1:18 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Ask about learning a new language using screen reader.
 

  How can I find someone who would talk me with English:

thank you for much
Logo Kuo from Taiwan
Joseph Lee 於 2018/12/07 4:14 寫道:

Hi,

No, please do not start learning a new language with a screen reader and a speech synthesizer. I advise starting out with a face-to-face conversation with someone who speaks the language you wish to learn.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io On Behalf Of prem.translator@...
Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2018 12:12 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Ask about learning a new language using screen reader.

 

I agree with both Joseph and Angela. For me, Thai is my Native language, and I ever learned English and German. For the next language, computer and screen reader will be the first step before going to face-to-face conversation.

Thank you for your suggestions,
Prem.




Re: Ask about learning a new language using screen reader.

The Gamages
 

Hello,
 
Just another thought on this subject, Linguaphone do, or did an audio only package and it is very good, maybe worth asking them.
 
Best Regards, Jim.
 

From: 特種兵
Sent: Friday, December 07, 2018 1:18 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Ask about learning a new language using screen reader.
 

  How can I find someone who would talk me with English:

thank you for much
Logo Kuo from Taiwan
Joseph Lee 於 2018/12/07 4:14 寫道:

Hi,

No, please do not start learning a new language with a screen reader and a speech synthesizer. I advise starting out with a face-to-face conversation with someone who speaks the language you wish to learn.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io On Behalf Of prem.translator@...
Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2018 12:12 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Ask about learning a new language using screen reader.

 

I agree with both Joseph and Angela. For me, Thai is my Native language, and I ever learned English and German. For the next language, computer and screen reader will be the first step before going to face-to-face conversation.

Thank you for your suggestions,
Prem.



Espeak Ng latest version comments

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OK we were asked to comment about this. Its a lot better than it was. Only the word interesting and its derivatives seem to sound like intresting as it were in uk English. A minor issue.
At least for has been fixed at last.
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Latest beta not rebooting again..

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Yes folks, on my Windows 7 machine the latest beta has failed to reboot, showing a warning about a file could not be written to but silently as nvda has shut down ready to reboot. the same old message written to the log kept in the nvda folder, and in effect the problem is again here where the log file is still locked being renamed when nvda tries to restart, stopping it at that point.
However to me, looking at the log fragment befor, there does seem to be a heck of a lot of issues with deleting old files and copying new ones with errors suppressed. Kind of makes you wonder if all the files that should have been updated, really have been. Also I did not realise the registry fix tool would run before a reboot as also seen below. Not that it helps much with my dropbox dialogue issue.
Anyway those who are interestid, have a look below.

Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'Updating NVDA dialog Please wait while your previous installation of NVDA is being updated.']
IO - tones.beep (10:27:27.447):
Beep at pitch 440, for 40 ms, left volume 50, right volume 50
IO - speech.speak (10:27:27.448):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'Please wait']
IO - tones.beep (10:27:27.483):
Beep at pitch 110.0, for 40 ms, left volume 50, right volume 50
IO - speech.speak (10:27:27.486):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'0 percent']
IO - tones.beep (10:27:28.460):
Beep at pitch 440, for 40 ms, left volume 50, right volume 50
DEBUG - RPC process 4552 (nvda_slave.exe) (10:27:28.538):
installer.removeOldLibFiles:
Removing old lib file: u'C:\\Program Files (x86)\\NVDA\\lib\\2018.4beta3\\IAccessible2proxy.dll'
IO - tones.beep (10:27:29.473):
Beep at pitch 440, for 40 ms, left volume 50, right volume 50
DEBUGWARNING - RPC process 4552 (nvda_slave.exe) (10:27:29.539):
installer.tryRemoveFile:
Failed to delete file C:\Program Files (x86)\NVDA\lib\2018.4beta3\tmpwd_adc, marking for delete on reboot
DEBUG - RPC process 4552 (nvda_slave.exe) (10:27:29.542):
installer.removeOldLibFiles:
Removing old lib file: u'C:\\Program Files (x86)\\NVDA\\lib\\2018.4beta3\\ISimpleDOM.dll'
IO - tones.beep (10:27:30.487):
Beep at pitch 440, for 40 ms, left volume 50, right volume 50
DEBUGWARNING - RPC process 4552 (nvda_slave.exe) (10:27:30.543):
installer.tryRemoveFile:
Failed to delete file C:\Program Files (x86)\NVDA\lib\2018.4beta3\tmpqs_gij, marking for delete on reboot
DEBUG - RPC process 4552 (nvda_slave.exe) (10:27:30.545):
installer.removeOldLibFiles:
Removing old lib file: u'C:\\Program Files (x86)\\NVDA\\lib\\2018.4beta3\\minHook.dll'
DEBUG - RPC process 4552 (nvda_slave.exe) (10:27:30.546):
installer.removeOldLibFiles:
Removing old lib file: u'C:\\Program Files (x86)\\NVDA\\lib\\2018.4beta3\\nvdaHelperLocal.dll'
DEBUG - RPC process 4552 (nvda_slave.exe) (10:27:30.549):
installer.removeOldLibFiles:
Removing old lib file: u'C:\\Program Files (x86)\\NVDA\\lib\\2018.4beta3\\nvdaHelperLocalWin10.dll'
DEBUG - RPC process 4552 (nvda_slave.exe) (10:27:30.551):
installer.removeOldLibFiles:
Removing old lib file: u'C:\\Program Files (x86)\\NVDA\\lib\\2018.4beta3\\nvdaHelperRemote.dll'
IO - tones.beep (10:27:31.503):
Beep at pitch 440, for 40 ms, left volume 50, right volume 50
DEBUGWARNING - RPC process 4552 (nvda_slave.exe) (10:27:31.552):
installer.tryRemoveFile:
Failed to delete file C:\Program Files (x86)\NVDA\lib\2018.4beta3\tmpbv8dly, marking for delete on reboot
DEBUG - RPC process 4552 (nvda_slave.exe) (10:27:31.555):
installer.removeOldLibFiles:
Skipping current install lib path: u'C:\\Program Files (x86)\\NVDA\\lib\\2018.4beta4'
DEBUG - RPC process 4552 (nvda_slave.exe) (10:27:31.555):
installer.removeOldLibFiles:
Removing old lib directory: u'C:\\Program Files (x86)\\NVDA\\lib\\2018.4beta2'
DEBUG - RPC process 4552 (nvda_slave.exe) (10:27:31.558):
installer.removeOldLibFiles:
Removing old lib directory: u'C:\\Program Files (x86)\\NVDA\\lib\\2018.4beta3'
WARNING - RPC process 4552 (nvda_slave.exe) (10:27:31.559):
installer.removeOldLibFiles:
Failed to remove a directory no longer needed. This can be manually removed after a reboot or the installer will try removing it again next time. Directory: u'C:\\Program Files (x86)\\NVDA\\lib\\2018.4beta3'
DEBUG - RPC process 4552 (nvda_slave.exe) (10:27:31.561):
installer.removeOldLibFiles:
Removing old lib directory: u'C:\\Program Files (x86)\\NVDA\\lib\\2018.4beta4'
WARNING - RPC process 4552 (nvda_slave.exe) (10:27:31.562):
installer.removeOldLibFiles:
Failed to remove a directory no longer needed. This can be manually removed after a reboot or the installer will try removing it again next time. Directory: u'C:\\Program Files (x86)\\NVDA\\lib\\2018.4beta4'
DEBUG - RPC process 4552 (nvda_slave.exe) (10:27:31.565):
installer.removeOldLibFiles:
Removing old lib file: u'C:\\Program Files (x86)\\NVDA\\lib64\\2018.4beta3\\IAccessible2proxy.dll'
DEBUGWARNING - RPC process 3424 (nvda_update_xaenmc.exe) (10:27:32.286):
Thread 4836, build\x86\remote\ia2Support.cpp, IA2Support_inProcess_terminate, 152:
WaitForMultipleObjects returned 258

IO - tones.beep (10:27:32.516):
Beep at pitch 440, for 40 ms, left volume 50, right volume 50
DEBUGWARNING - RPC process 4552 (nvda_slave.exe) (10:27:32.565):
installer.tryRemoveFile:
Failed to delete file C:\Program Files (x86)\NVDA\lib64\2018.4beta3\tmpmseymn, marking for delete on reboot
DEBUG - RPC process 4552 (nvda_slave.exe) (10:27:32.568):
installer.removeOldLibFiles:
Removing old lib file: u'C:\\Program Files (x86)\\NVDA\\lib64\\2018.4beta3\\ISimpleDOM.dll'
IO - tones.beep (10:27:33.529):
Beep at pitch 440, for 40 ms, left volume 50, right volume 50
DEBUGWARNING - RPC process 4552 (nvda_slave.exe) (10:27:33.569):
installer.tryRemoveFile:
Failed to delete file C:\Program Files (x86)\NVDA\lib64\2018.4beta3\tmpv0prui, marking for delete on reboot
DEBUG - RPC process 4552 (nvda_slave.exe) (10:27:33.572):
installer.removeOldLibFiles:
Removing old lib file: u'C:\\Program Files (x86)\\NVDA\\lib64\\2018.4beta3\\minHook.dll'
DEBUG - RPC process 4552 (nvda_slave.exe) (10:27:33.573):
installer.removeOldLibFiles:
Removing old lib file: u'C:\\Program Files (x86)\\NVDA\\lib64\\2018.4beta3\\nvdaHelperRemote.dll'
DEBUG - RPC process 4552 (nvda_slave.exe) (10:27:33.575):
installer.removeOldLibFiles:
Removing old lib file: u'C:\\Program Files (x86)\\NVDA\\lib64\\2018.4beta3\\nvdaHelperRemoteLoader.exe'
DEBUG - RPC process 4552 (nvda_slave.exe) (10:27:33.578):
installer.removeOldLibFiles:
Skipping current install lib path: u'C:\\Program Files (x86)\\NVDA\\lib64\\2018.4beta4'
DEBUG - RPC process 4552 (nvda_slave.exe) (10:27:33.579):
installer.removeOldLibFiles:
Removing old lib directory: u'C:\\Program Files (x86)\\NVDA\\lib64\\2018.4beta2'
DEBUG - RPC process 4552 (nvda_slave.exe) (10:27:33.582):
installer.removeOldLibFiles:
Removing old lib directory: u'C:\\Program Files (x86)\\NVDA\\lib64\\2018.4beta3'
WARNING - RPC process 4552 (nvda_slave.exe) (10:27:33.582):
installer.removeOldLibFiles:
Failed to remove a directory no longer needed. This can be manually removed after a reboot or the installer will try removing it again next time. Directory: u'C:\\Program Files (x86)\\NVDA\\lib64\\2018.4beta3'
DEBUG - RPC process 4552 (nvda_slave.exe) (10:27:33.584):
installer.removeOldLibFiles:
Removing old lib directory: u'C:\\Program Files (x86)\\NVDA\\lib64\\2018.4beta4'
WARNING - RPC process 4552 (nvda_slave.exe) (10:27:33.585):
installer.removeOldLibFiles:
Failed to remove a directory no longer needed. This can be manually removed after a reboot or the installer will try removing it again next time. Directory: u'C:\\Program Files (x86)\\NVDA\\lib64\\2018.4beta4'
DEBUG - RPC process 4552 (nvda_slave.exe) (10:27:33.586):
COMRegistrationFixes.fixCOMRegistrations:
Fixing COM registration for Windows 6.1, 64 bit
DEBUG - RPC process 4552 (nvda_slave.exe) (10:27:33.611):
COMRegistrationFixes.applyRegistryPatch:
Applied registry patch: COMRegistryFixes\oleaccProxy.reg with C:\Windows\regedit.exe
DEBUG - RPC process 4552 (nvda_slave.exe) (10:27:33.627):
COMRegistrationFixes.applyRegistryPatch:
Applied registry patch: COMRegistryFixes\oleaccProxy.reg with C:\Windows\syswow64\regedit.exe
DEBUG - RPC process 4552 (nvda_slave.exe) (10:27:33.726):
COMRegistrationFixes.registerServer:
Registered C:\Windows\system32\oleaut32.dll
DEBUG - RPC process 4552 (nvda_slave.exe) (10:27:33.823):
COMRegistrationFixes.registerServer:
Registered C:\Windows\system32\actxprxy.dll
DEBUG - RPC process 4552 (nvda_slave.exe) (10:27:33.892):
COMRegistrationFixes.registerServer:
Registered C:\Windows\syswow64\oleaut32.dll
DEBUG - RPC process 4552 (nvda_slave.exe) (10:27:33.976):
COMRegistrationFixes.registerServer:
Registered C:\Windows\syswow64\actxprxy.dll
DEBUG - RPC process 4552 (nvda_slave.exe) (10:27:34.058):
COMRegistrationFixes.registerServer:
Registered C:\program files\Internet Explorer\ieproxy.dll
DEBUG - RPC process 4552 (nvda_slave.exe) (10:27:34.150):
COMRegistrationFixes.registerServer:
Registered C:\program files (x86)\Internet Explorer\ieproxy.dll
IO - tones.beep (10:27:34.157):
Beep at pitch 1760, for 40 ms, left volume 50, right volume 50
DEBUGWARNING - NVDAObjects.IAccessible.IAccessible._get_IAccessibleRole (10:27:34.313):
accRole failed: (-2147024809, 'The parameter is incorrect.', (None, None, None, 0, None))
IO - speech.speak (10:27:34.392):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'1 nvda mail list - Outlook Express - Brians lists account BGlists']
IO - speech.speak (10:27:34.476):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'Outlook Express Message List list']
IO - speech.speak (10:27:34.555):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'From: Alexandre Alves Toco; Subject: [nvda] beta4 fixed an anoying volume variance, very good!; Received: 07/12/2018 08:31 38139 of 38139']


This is where the old version stopps logging ie the temp version of the latest beta after the install.
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Re: Vocalizer from Tiflotechnia

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Maybe he should do a deal with the other provider and walk away at least with some dosh as I suspect its getting a very competitive market now and they cannot keep up.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Nimer Jaber" <nimerjaber1@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, December 07, 2018 12:39 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Vocalizer from Tiflotechnia


Not never. It was all supposed to be in an update that was supposed to be
released two years ago, and this individual still gets on this list and
tells us "not yet". Maybe by 2030 we will see this update.

On Thu, Dec 6, 2018 at 5:37 PM Rui Fontes <rui.fontes@tiflotecnia.com>
wrote:

Not yet...

Rui Fontes
Tiflotecnia, Lda.



Às 13:13 de 06/12/2018, Chris Shook escreveu:
Hi,
Did Tiflotechnia ever update their voice list with the new voices such
as Nathan, Susan, etc?
Chris





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Re: Vocalizer from Tiflotechnia

John Isige
 

I'm not weighing in on how people should feel here. But to be fair, I'm pretty sure the last time this came up, he said he was waiting for the transition to Python 3. And now we've just gotten a message that, fairly soon, the way you do addons will have to change. So I for one think it's sensible to give him time after this change hits. If this is the new way of doing addons and this is what he explicitly said he was waiting for, then we should see something, unless he's really waiting for the full transition to Python 3.


Like I said, I'm not trying to tell anybody how to feel about it. I'm just putting this out here because the complaint has been that you got "not yet" and "we'll see" and stuff like that. But the last time this came up and everybody complained about it, he did give the reason why an update wasn't coming, and that reason was that due to the transition to Python 3, the way addons were made would have to be changed, so he was waiting for that to happen.


I assume that's so he could get all of the major updates done at once and know they'd basically be working for the future, rather than doing a big update and then having to do another big update, or more than one, when the way addons work changed. Now you might say that reason isn't a good reason at all. That's fine, because as I'll say again to be clear, I'm not telling you how to feel about anything. I'm just saying, he did actually give a reason as to why there hasn't been an update. So saying that he doesn't tell anybody anything isn't really true. Unless the government's putting thoughts in my head again. Then all bets are off. But I asked them really nicely to stop doing that after the incident with the army officer and the flag pole. I mean sure, it was a good laugh and all, but it was hardly dignified. I'd tell you about it, but we swore we'd only speak of it amongst ourselves, and even then only if we were drunk. In a submarine. At a minimum depth of six fathoms.


beta4 fixed an anoying volume variance, very good!

Alexandre Alves Toco
 

Hi, just to let you know...

With beta3, the volume went down and up every time I pressed arrow up, arrow down, tab.

 

I am happy this problem is solved!!!

 

Enviado do Email para Windows 10

 


Re: Vocalizer from Tiflotechnia

Vlad Dragomir
 

Hello friends,

 

You are perfectly right I think. This was the main reason why I chose to go with CodeFactory, in spite of the fact that indeed, Say All and line-spelling don’t work. I sent them a detailed email describing this almost two months ago, and I’m still waiting for an answer. Definitely, they are not perfect at all. But at least they regularly add new voices, which is the most important thing for me; I can live with not using say-all and spell-line. And definitely that guy coming here all the time with replies like “not yet”  or “very soon”, makes me laugh by now. On the other hand, I do feel sad for those who paid almost 100 euros for a product that didn’t change since 2015 or so. I remember I hesitated a lot between the two Vocalizers, and for once, I think I was lucky.

 

Cheers,

 

Vlad.


Re: Vocalizer from Tiflotechnia

kavein thran
 

don't worry, it will never happen, it's better to look out for
different vendors!

On 12/7/18, Luis Carlos Gonzáles Moráles <luiscarlosgm@hotmail.es> wrote:
Maybe by the next millennium shall be readdy, but still exagerating. But I
really want the update to be happening, or in the complicated things: Can
Nuance Communications, INC. resume the development of the AddOn?
Yes, I'm currently using Code Factory's Eloquence and Vocalizer unified
addons, but the problem with the vocalizer ones is that say all doesn't
work, neaither auto-language switching, unless it's enabled in the vocalizer
settings.

Nimer Jaber wrote:
Not never. It was all supposed to be in an update that was supposed to be
released two years ago, and this individual still gets on this list and
tells us "not yet". Maybe by 2030 we will see this update.

On Thu, Dec 6, 2018 at 5:37 PM Rui Fontes
<rui.fontes@tiflotecnia.com<mailto:rui.fontes@tiflotecnia.com>> wrote:
Not yet...

Rui Fontes
Tiflotecnia, Lda.



Às 13:13 de 06/12/2018, Chris Shook escreveu:
Hi,
Did Tiflotechnia ever update their voice list with the new voices such
as Nathan, Susan, etc?
Chris







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Re: Ask about learning a new language using screen reader.

 

Well I wouldn't learn with a low quality synth.

One thing, if you have a smart device, my family and friends use a program and website called duo lingo.

There are lessons and structured courses, including spoken things and text.

It may be what you want there are even online exams, most of it is web and email based.

Its a free program.

On 12/7/2018 9:14 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,

No, please do not start learning a new language with a screen reader and a speech synthesizer. I advise starting out with a face-to-face conversation with someone who speaks the language you wish to learn.

Cheers,

Joseph


From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of prem.translator@gmail.com
Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2018 12:12 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Ask about learning a new language using screen reader.


I agree with both Joseph and Angela. For me, Thai is my Native language, and I ever learned English and German. For the next language, computer and screen reader will be the first step before going to face-to-face conversation.

Thank you for your suggestions,
Prem.






Re: spellcheck with CodeFactory Vocalizer

Chris Shook <chris0309@...>
 

Thanks for the help Abby.
That helped a lot.
Incidentally, what is your opinion of the British voice Oliver?
Chris


Re: Vocalizer from Tiflotechnia

Luis Carlos González Moráles
 

Maybe by the next millennium shall be readdy, but still exagerating. But I really want the update to be happening, or in the complicated things: Can Nuance Communications, INC. resume the development of the AddOn?
Yes, I'm currently using Code Factory's Eloquence and Vocalizer unified addons, but the problem with the vocalizer ones is that say all doesn't work, neaither auto-language switching, unless it's enabled in the vocalizer settings.

Nimer Jaber wrote:

Not never. It was all supposed to be in an update that was supposed to be released two years ago, and this individual still gets on this list and tells us "not yet". Maybe by 2030 we will see this update.

On Thu, Dec 6, 2018 at 5:37 PM Rui Fontes <rui.fontes@...> wrote:
Not yet...

Rui Fontes
Tiflotecnia, Lda.



Às 13:13 de 06/12/2018, Chris Shook escreveu:
> Hi,
> Did Tiflotechnia ever update their voice list with the new voices such
> as Nathan, Susan, etc?
> Chris
>
>
>
>





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Re: Switching from Windows 8.1 to Windows 10

Jason White
 

You should be able to run the Windows Media Creation Tool to perform the upgrade. During the upgrade, you might have to use Microsoft Narrator until everything is complete and you’re able to start a functional desktop environment with NVDA.

 

I haven’t done this from Windows 8.1, however. I’m sure it’s well explained in various articles on the Web that your preferred search engine can find.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ján Kulik
Sent: Tuesday, December 4, 2018 8:26 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Switching from Windows 8.1 to Windows 10

 

Hi all, I know it does not belong to the NVDA theme, but I'd like to turn to users, or they do not know about a visually impaired community for Microsoft windows. This is the transition from the Windows 8.1 operating system to Windows 10. Is anyone in this conference able to give me advice on how to upgrade to windows 10?

Thank you in advance for your help.

I do not want to contact Microsoft Tech Support anytime. Even if they were able to advise me, they just ordered me to control my mouse. And we are blind, so we have the right to use a keyboard, not just a mouse.


Begars,
Jan


Re: Ask about learning a new language using screen reader.

特種兵
 


  How can I find someone who would talk me with English:

thank you for much
Logo Kuo from Taiwan
Joseph Lee 於 2018/12/07 4:14 寫道:

Hi,

No, please do not start learning a new language with a screen reader and a speech synthesizer. I advise starting out with a face-to-face conversation with someone who speaks the language you wish to learn.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of prem.translator@...
Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2018 12:12 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Ask about learning a new language using screen reader.

 

I agree with both Joseph and Angela. For me, Thai is my Native language, and I ever learned English and German. For the next language, computer and screen reader will be the first step before going to face-to-face conversation.

Thank you for your suggestions,
Prem.



Re: Vocalizer from Tiflotechnia

Nimer Jaber
 

Not never. It was all supposed to be in an update that was supposed to be released two years ago, and this individual still gets on this list and tells us "not yet". Maybe by 2030 we will see this update.

On Thu, Dec 6, 2018 at 5:37 PM Rui Fontes <rui.fontes@...> wrote:
Not yet...

Rui Fontes
Tiflotecnia, Lda.



Às 13:13 de 06/12/2018, Chris Shook escreveu:
> Hi,
> Did Tiflotechnia ever update their voice list with the new voices such
> as Nathan, Susan, etc?
> Chris
>
>
>
>





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Cordially,

Nimer Jaber

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some information about the email you have just read and all
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please notify me via reply email and destroy all copies of this
correspondence. Action taken as a result of this email or its contents
by anyone other than the intended recipient(s) may result in civil or
criminal charges. I have checked this email and all corresponding
attachments for security threats. However, security of your machine is
up to you. Thanks.

Registered Linux User 529141.
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and above, please click here:
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