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Re: EM Client mail client

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

I haven't heard of it.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Friday, December 7, 2018 2:02 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] EM Client mail client

 

Hi everyone,

 

I had an inquiry about using the EM Client - http://www.emclient.com/

 

Has anyone used this mail client and if so, is it accessible, and are there any tips for using it or setting it up etc?

 

Quentin.

 

--

Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

 

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

 

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 


Re: a problem focusing the mouse cursor on items

Gene
 

Are you in object review mode or screen review mode.  I have said before that object review mode should be automatically returned to when the window you are using a different mode in is left.  A lot of people have no idea that you need to be in object navigation mode for a lot of commands to work properly.  Unfortunately, my idea has not been implemented.  We'll see if your problem is another illustration of why it should be.
 
Also, have you changed the default setting that causes the object navigator to follow the cursor?  That could be the problem, too.  You are routing the mouse to the object navigator, not to the application cursor nor the browse mode virtual cursor. 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Dan Beaver
Sent: Friday, December 07, 2018 4:30 PM
Subject: [nvda] a problem focusing the mouse cursor on items

Hi,


I have recently noticed that using the nvda+shift+m combo isn't working correctly.  If I do this on a webpage to click on an item that normally would be identified as a link it doesn't allow me to click on it.


If I do this and then issue nvda+[ to do a mouse click it tries to activate something on the desktop instead.  It seems like the mouse focus isn't being placed on the item that I was looking at in browse mode.


Any ideas on this one?


I am running the latest stable NVDA and Windows 10 home. I am having trouble figuring out

how to find the exact version of Windows 10 home though.  I found this using the Chrome browser.


Thanks.



--

Dan Beaver (KC4DOY)


Re: a problem focusing the mouse cursor on items

Adriani Botez
 

Hi,

 

which browser are you using? In Firefox an Crome this will work much better in NVDA 2018.4.

 

Best

Adriani

 

 

 

Von: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Im Auftrag von Dan Beaver
Gesendet: Freitag, 7. Dezember 2018 23:31
An: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Betreff: [nvda] a problem focusing the mouse cursor on items

 

Hi,

 

I have recently noticed that using the nvda+shift+m combo isn't working correctly.  If I do this on a webpage to click on an item that normally would be identified as a link it doesn't allow me to click on it.

 

If I do this and then issue nvda+[ to do a mouse click it tries to activate something on the desktop instead.  It seems like the mouse focus isn't being placed on the item that I was looking at in browse mode.

 

Any ideas on this one?

 

I am running the latest stable NVDA and Windows 10 home. I am having trouble figuring out

how to find the exact version of Windows 10 home though.  I found this using the Chrome browser.

 

Thanks.

 

 

--

Dan Beaver (KC4DOY)


a problem focusing the mouse cursor on items

Dan Beaver
 

Hi,


I have recently noticed that using the nvda+shift+m combo isn't working correctly.  If I do this on a webpage to click on an item that normally would be identified as a link it doesn't allow me to click on it.


If I do this and then issue nvda+[ to do a mouse click it tries to activate something on the desktop instead.  It seems like the mouse focus isn't being placed on the item that I was looking at in browse mode.


Any ideas on this one?


I am running the latest stable NVDA and Windows 10 home. I am having trouble figuring out

how to find the exact version of Windows 10 home though.  I found this using the Chrome browser.


Thanks.



--

Dan Beaver (KC4DOY)


EM Client mail client

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi everyone,

I had an inquiry about using the EM Client - http://www.emclient.com/

Has anyone used this mail client and if so, is it accessible, and are there any tips for using it or setting it up etc?

Quentin.

--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 


Re: NVDA reading dialog boxes

Don H
 

Thanks that fixed it

On 12/7/2018 12:03 PM, Tyler Spivey wrote:
Sorry, let's try with slightly clearer instructions:
1. Activate the NVDA menu, Preferences, Settings.
2. Select Object Presentation from the list.
3. Tab until you hear Report object descriptions and check it.
4. Press enter.
On 12/7/2018 8:10 AM, Don H wrote:
Tried this and got nothing.
when hitting insert control o nothing happens alt v gives me a ding and
nothing else.

On 12/7/2018 7:58 AM, Tyler Spivey wrote:
NVDA+CTRL+o, alt+d to check Report object descriptions, enter. Try again.
On 12/7/2018 5:54 AM, Don H wrote:
Running latest beta of NVDA on a Win 10 1809 system.
while in the NVDA UI if I go to help then about NVDA does not read the
dialog box it only says OK.  If you open up the check for updates or
addon updates NVDA only says close where I thought it always said No
updates available in the past










Re: Microsofts blog on the edge and chrome merge

Devin Prater
 

Well, if you don’t like it because of how it shows websites, then just wait for it to switch to Chrome. If you don’t like it because of the alt+X menu, well, there’s still Google Chrome or Firefox. :) 

On Dec 7, 2018, at 11:40 AM, molly the blind tech lover <brainardmolly@...> wrote:

not to be rude but i dislike edge.


On Fri, Dec 7, 2018, 9:54 AM Robert Kingett <kingettr@... wrote:

I haven't seen this posted yet, so I wanted to share the below blog post from Microsoft themselves. Personally, this is great for developers! Less accessibility tinkering, in my opinion. Also, since chrome based stuff is open source, anybody can develop and code for accessibility. Microsoft even said they want to do this to make web accessibility better but no, Edge is not going away. Nowhere has anybody ever said edge is going away and if they did, they are wrong and can't read.

https://blogs.windows.com/windowsexperience/2018/12/06/microsoft-edge-making-the-web-better-through-more-open-source-collaboration/





Re: NVDA reading dialog boxes

Don H
 

I have also changed the speech syn and problem still exists.

On 12/7/2018 11:08 AM, Don H wrote:
I disabled all addons and it still doesn't read the dialog boxes that NVDA generates.
On 12/7/2018 11:07 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
Does restarting with add-ons disabled help? If NvDA reads dialogs after disabling add-ons, chances are that it might be an add-on that's interfering with some NVDA work.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Friday, December 7, 2018 9:04 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA reading dialog boxes

Reboot doesn't fix the issue.  Ironic that NVDA doesn't read the dialog boxes it generates.

On 12/7/2018 10:56 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
Try rebooting the machine. I've seen this too but no idea why it comes
and goes though I use windows 7. i I have a feeling its a windows issue.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Don H" <lmddh50@adams.net>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, December 07, 2018 1:54 PM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA reading dialog boxes


Running latest beta of NVDA on a Win 10 1809 system.
while in the NVDA UI if I go to help then about NVDA does not read
the dialog box it only says OK.  If you open up the check for updates
or addon updates NVDA only says close where I thought it always said
No updates available in the past















Re: NVDA reading dialog boxes

Don H
 

OK I did a complete uninstall of NVDA including removal of all left over folders then did a clean install of the latest non beta version of NVDA. Now dialogs read as they should. Something must have gotten corrupted during installs of the beta versions on top of the released version of NVDA


Re: NVDA reading dialog boxes

Tyler Spivey
 

Sorry, let's try with slightly clearer instructions:
1. Activate the NVDA menu, Preferences, Settings.
2. Select Object Presentation from the list.
3. Tab until you hear Report object descriptions and check it.
4. Press enter.

On 12/7/2018 8:10 AM, Don H wrote:
Tried this and got nothing.
when hitting insert control o nothing happens alt v gives me a ding and
nothing else.

On 12/7/2018 7:58 AM, Tyler Spivey wrote:
NVDA+CTRL+o, alt+d to check Report object descriptions, enter. Try again.
On 12/7/2018 5:54 AM, Don H wrote:
Running latest beta of NVDA on a Win 10 1809 system.
while in the NVDA UI if I go to help then about NVDA does not read the
dialog box it only says OK.  If you open up the check for updates or
addon updates NVDA only says close where I thought it always said No
updates available in the past










Re: Microsofts blog on the edge and chrome merge

molly the blind tech lover
 

not to be rude but i dislike edge.


On Fri, Dec 7, 2018, 9:54 AM Robert Kingett <kingettr@... wrote:

I haven't seen this posted yet, so I wanted to share the below blog post from Microsoft themselves. Personally, this is great for developers! Less accessibility tinkering, in my opinion. Also, since chrome based stuff is open source, anybody can develop and code for accessibility. Microsoft even said they want to do this to make web accessibility better but no, Edge is not going away. Nowhere has anybody ever said edge is going away and if they did, they are wrong and can't read.

https://blogs.windows.com/windowsexperience/2018/12/06/microsoft-edge-making-the-web-better-through-more-open-source-collaboration/


Re: NVDA reading dialog boxes

 

Hi,
I see. The info provided matches what I have - the dialog is recognized as a proper dialog. In my case, the content is read. What if you try Windows OneCore voices (or Espeak NG) and see if the dialog is then read?
To others: besides looking at "report object descriptions" checkbox, the other possibility might be an add-on interfering with NVDA's dialog detection logic, but reports suggest this is not the case. I can't reproduce this, and if I'm reading the reports right, others can't either, so looks like something local to Don's computer.
To Don: can you recall the last NvDA version that did read its own About dialog, or has this been like this ever since your first NVDA use?
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Friday, December 7, 2018 9:23 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA reading dialog boxes

INFO - __main__ (11:06:49.802):
Starting NVDA
INFO - core.main (11:06:49.880):
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Loading config: C:\Users\Don\AppData\Roaming\nvda\nvda.ini
INFO - core.main (11:06:50.319):
NVDA version 2018.4beta4
INFO - core.main (11:06:50.319):
Using Windows version 10.0.17763 workstation INFO - core.main (11:06:50.319):
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On 12/7/2018 11:18 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
Okay, can you do the following for me:
1. Open NVDA's About dialog.
2. Press NVDA+Numpad up arrow (of NVDA+Shift+Up arrow in laptop layout) so you can go to dialog window.
3. Press NVDA+F1 and copy and paste the developer info for the object shown.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Friday, December 7, 2018 9:09 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA reading dialog boxes

I disabled all addons and it still doesn't read the dialog boxes that NVDA generates.

On 12/7/2018 11:07 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
Does restarting with add-ons disabled help? If NvDA reads dialogs after disabling add-ons, chances are that it might be an add-on that's interfering with some NVDA work.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Friday, December 7, 2018 9:04 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA reading dialog boxes

Reboot doesn't fix the issue. Ironic that NVDA doesn't read the dialog boxes it generates.

On 12/7/2018 10:56 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
Try rebooting the machine. I've seen this too but no idea why it
comes and goes though I use windows 7. i I have a feeling its a windows issue.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Don H" <lmddh50@adams.net>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, December 07, 2018 1:54 PM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA reading dialog boxes


Running latest beta of NVDA on a Win 10 1809 system.
while in the NVDA UI if I go to help then about NVDA does not read
the dialog box it only says OK. If you open up the check for
updates or addon updates NVDA only says close where I thought it
always said No updates available in the past






















Re: NVDA reading dialog boxes

Don H
 

INFO - __main__ (11:06:49.802):
Starting NVDA
INFO - core.main (11:06:49.880):
Config dir: C:\Users\Don\AppData\Roaming\nvda
INFO - config.ConfigManager._loadConfig (11:06:49.880):
Loading config: C:\Users\Don\AppData\Roaming\nvda\nvda.ini
INFO - core.main (11:06:50.319):
NVDA version 2018.4beta4
INFO - core.main (11:06:50.319):
Using Windows version 10.0.17763 workstation
INFO - core.main (11:06:50.319):
Using Python version 2.7.15 (v2.7.15:ca079a3ea3, Apr 30 2018, 16:22:17) [MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)]
INFO - core.main (11:06:50.319):
Using comtypes version 1.1.3
INFO - core.main (11:06:50.319):
Using configobj version 5.1.0 with validate version 1.0.1
INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (11:06:50.657):
Loaded synthDriver dectalk
INFO - core.main (11:06:50.657):
Using wx version 4.0.3 msw (phoenix) wxWidgets 3.0.5
INFO - brailleInput.initialize (11:06:50.657):
Braille input initialized
INFO - braille.initialize (11:06:50.657):
Using liblouis version 3.7.0
INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (11:06:50.657):
Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells.
WARNING - core.main (11:06:50.677):
Java Access Bridge not available
INFO - _UIAHandler.UIAHandler.MTAThreadFunc (11:06:50.687):
UIAutomation: IUIAutomation6
INFO - core.main (11:06:51.793):
NVDA initialized
INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (11:09:21.542):
Loaded synthDriver oneCore
INFO - synthDrivers.espeak.SynthDriver.__init__ (11:10:27.153):
Using eSpeak NG version 1.49.3 dev
INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (11:10:28.160):
Loaded synthDriver espeak
INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (11:11:12.400):
Loaded synthDriver dectalk
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Developer info for navigator object:
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role: ROLE_DIALOG
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On 12/7/2018 11:18 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
Okay, can you do the following for me:
1. Open NVDA's About dialog.
2. Press NVDA+Numpad up arrow (of NVDA+Shift+Up arrow in laptop layout) so you can go to dialog window.
3. Press NVDA+F1 and copy and paste the developer info for the object shown.
Cheers,
Joseph
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Friday, December 7, 2018 9:09 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA reading dialog boxes
I disabled all addons and it still doesn't read the dialog boxes that NVDA generates.
On 12/7/2018 11:07 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
Does restarting with add-ons disabled help? If NvDA reads dialogs after disabling add-ons, chances are that it might be an add-on that's interfering with some NVDA work.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Friday, December 7, 2018 9:04 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA reading dialog boxes

Reboot doesn't fix the issue. Ironic that NVDA doesn't read the dialog boxes it generates.

On 12/7/2018 10:56 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
Try rebooting the machine. I've seen this too but no idea why it
comes and goes though I use windows 7. i I have a feeling its a windows issue.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Don H" <lmddh50@adams.net>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, December 07, 2018 1:54 PM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA reading dialog boxes


Running latest beta of NVDA on a Win 10 1809 system.
while in the NVDA UI if I go to help then about NVDA does not read
the dialog box it only says OK. If you open up the check for
updates or addon updates NVDA only says close where I thought it
always said No updates available in the past















Re: NVDA reading dialog boxes

 

Hi,
Okay, can you do the following for me:
1. Open NVDA's About dialog.
2. Press NVDA+Numpad up arrow (of NVDA+Shift+Up arrow in laptop layout) so you can go to dialog window.
3. Press NVDA+F1 and copy and paste the developer info for the object shown.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Friday, December 7, 2018 9:09 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA reading dialog boxes

I disabled all addons and it still doesn't read the dialog boxes that NVDA generates.

On 12/7/2018 11:07 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
Does restarting with add-ons disabled help? If NvDA reads dialogs after disabling add-ons, chances are that it might be an add-on that's interfering with some NVDA work.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Friday, December 7, 2018 9:04 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA reading dialog boxes

Reboot doesn't fix the issue. Ironic that NVDA doesn't read the dialog boxes it generates.

On 12/7/2018 10:56 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
Try rebooting the machine. I've seen this too but no idea why it
comes and goes though I use windows 7. i I have a feeling its a windows issue.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Don H" <lmddh50@adams.net>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, December 07, 2018 1:54 PM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA reading dialog boxes


Running latest beta of NVDA on a Win 10 1809 system.
while in the NVDA UI if I go to help then about NVDA does not read
the dialog box it only says OK. If you open up the check for
updates or addon updates NVDA only says close where I thought it
always said No updates available in the past















Re: VOCALIZER from Tiflotechnia bug

Claire Potter <claire.potter99@...>
 

Hi Brian, yes to all of that. It does take time to copy them, and even Eloquence does, and the odd thing is that before I installed the later version of the addons I could use them at logon, and now I can't. Rather annoything to be totally honest.

Warm Regards, Claire Potter, Check out my brand new website: www.pottersplace.me.uk

On 7 Dec 2018, at 17:02, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io <bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:

When you do the copy to that area, does it take some time to do it?
I notice that sometimes other synths seems to play silly too, but does eventually copy over. I'm not sure what this is about. One might suppose it is that the bit that deals with protected screens or the log on screen somehow cannot see the synth at that stage of operation so defaults to something it can see. The voice package, I assume was innstalled as the same user or admin as nvda was?
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Claire Potter" <claire.potter99@gmail.com>
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Sent: Friday, December 07, 2018 4:21 PM
Subject: [nvda] VOCALIZER from Tiflotechnia bug


Hi everyone, has anyone experienced a bug with the latest version of the Vocalizer addons from Tiflotechnia? I wanted to use the Ava premium voice at logon, and no mater what I do, my settings will not copy to the logon screen, the speech uses Espeak synth, and I have to use Eti Eloquence at logon instead. Has anyone experienced this problem at all, and if so, can you help?

Warm Regards, Claire Potter, Check out my brand new website: www.pottersplace.me.uk





Re: NVDA reading dialog boxes

Don H
 

I disabled all addons and it still doesn't read the dialog boxes that NVDA generates.

On 12/7/2018 11:07 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
Does restarting with add-ons disabled help? If NvDA reads dialogs after disabling add-ons, chances are that it might be an add-on that's interfering with some NVDA work.
Cheers,
Joseph
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Friday, December 7, 2018 9:04 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA reading dialog boxes
Reboot doesn't fix the issue. Ironic that NVDA doesn't read the dialog boxes it generates.
On 12/7/2018 10:56 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
Try rebooting the machine. I've seen this too but no idea why it comes
and goes though I use windows 7. i I have a feeling its a windows issue.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Don H" <lmddh50@adams.net>
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Sent: Friday, December 07, 2018 1:54 PM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA reading dialog boxes


Running latest beta of NVDA on a Win 10 1809 system.
while in the NVDA UI if I go to help then about NVDA does not read
the dialog box it only says OK. If you open up the check for updates
or addon updates NVDA only says close where I thought it always said
No updates available in the past








Re: NVDA reading dialog boxes

 

Hi,
Does restarting with add-ons disabled help? If NvDA reads dialogs after disabling add-ons, chances are that it might be an add-on that's interfering with some NVDA work.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Friday, December 7, 2018 9:04 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA reading dialog boxes

Reboot doesn't fix the issue. Ironic that NVDA doesn't read the dialog boxes it generates.

On 12/7/2018 10:56 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
Try rebooting the machine. I've seen this too but no idea why it comes
and goes though I use windows 7. i I have a feeling its a windows issue.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Don H" <lmddh50@adams.net>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, December 07, 2018 1:54 PM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA reading dialog boxes


Running latest beta of NVDA on a Win 10 1809 system.
while in the NVDA UI if I go to help then about NVDA does not read
the dialog box it only says OK. If you open up the check for updates
or addon updates NVDA only says close where I thought it always said
No updates available in the past








Re: NVDA reading dialog boxes

Don H
 

Reboot doesn't fix the issue. Ironic that NVDA doesn't read the dialog boxes it generates.

On 12/7/2018 10:56 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
Try rebooting the machine. I've seen this too but no idea why it comes and goes though I use windows 7. i I have a feeling its a windows issue.
Brian
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Don H" <lmddh50@adams.net>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, December 07, 2018 1:54 PM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA reading dialog boxes

Running latest beta of NVDA on a Win 10 1809 system.
while in the NVDA UI if I go to help then about NVDA does not read the dialog box it only says OK.  If you open up the check for updates or addon updates NVDA only says close where I thought it always said No updates available in the past




Re: VOCALIZER from Tiflotechnia bug

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

When you do the copy to that area, does it take some time to do it?
I notice that sometimes other synths seems to play silly too, but does eventually copy over. I'm not sure what this is about. One might suppose it is that the bit that deals with protected screens or the log on screen somehow cannot see the synth at that stage of operation so defaults to something it can see. The voice package, I assume was innstalled as the same user or admin as nvda was?
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
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To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, December 07, 2018 4:21 PM
Subject: [nvda] VOCALIZER from Tiflotechnia bug


Hi everyone, has anyone experienced a bug with the latest version of the Vocalizer addons from Tiflotechnia? I wanted to use the Ava premium voice at logon, and no mater what I do, my settings will not copy to the logon screen, the speech uses Espeak synth, and I have to use Eti Eloquence at logon instead. Has anyone experienced this problem at all, and if so, can you help?

Warm Regards, Claire Potter, Check out my brand new website: www.pottersplace.me.uk


Re: NVDA reading dialog boxes

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It reads the full details of the version and of the no updates available here, but as I said some kind of creeping doom in Windows seems to occasionally stop it, the only two things I've found to bring it back is.
1. log off your user and then come back in again or, simply restart the computer completely.
Brian

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Sent: Friday, December 07, 2018 2:29 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA reading dialog boxes


You would have thought so wouldnt you?
Those dialogs have never been read out as far as I know


From: Don H
Sent: 07 December 2018 13:55
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA reading dialog boxes

Running latest beta of NVDA on a Win 10 1809 system.
while in the NVDA UI if I go to help then about NVDA does not read the
dialog box it only says OK. If you open up the check for updates or
addon updates NVDA only says close where I thought it always said No
updates available in the past