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Donating/purchasing from the NVDA website

Sile
 

Hello


I just crashed out of buying products and donating to NVDA because their website frustrated me.  I was stuck in australian dollars for currency and in an australian address format.  Then when I went to donate, it took me out of my shopping cart and I lost the products that were in there.  So NVDA got nothing from me today.  I am guessing I am not the only person to be put off donating and purchasing because of these website glitches..


--Sile


Re: last but not least on NVDA

Howard Traxler <howard@...>
 

Thanks, Raha,


I now feel more informed.  Do appreciate it.


Howard

On 12/13/2018 9:01 AM, Raha Tehrani wrote:
Hi Howard.
"wepages" was a spelling mistake. I just wanted to write "webpages"
but I made a mistake and typed "wepages"
clickables are important elements on webpages. they are like buttons
and links. by either clicking on which, or pressing enter, or space,
you will be directed to another page. or perhaps a file is either
played or downloaded. in a nutshell, they are as important as links
and buttons. I see lots of them in webpages these days. in Jaws, you
can move on different clickables by pressing / "slash" key. you can
also have the list of clickables by pressing control+insert+/
but unfortunately, NVDA lacks such a thing. suppose you are visiting a
webpage which plays a radio station, the play and pause controls are
shown as clickables. and they are located in the middle of the page.
in JAWS you can reach them by simply pressing / "slash" key once or
twice. however, it takes you much more time reaching them using NVDA.
you should arrow down until you reach them.
take care.

On 12/13/18, Howard Traxler <howard@traxlerenterprises.com> wrote:
All this time and I still don't know what "clickable" means.  I assumed
it is the same as a link.  Guess not, huh?  Up until now, I haven't
found a need to search for them.  And then "wepages"?  I am confused.


Howard

On 12/13/2018 2:30 AM, Raha Tehrani wrote:
Dear all.
I am going to tell you about a very little difficulty on NVDA.
as you all know, while using JAWS, pressing the / "slash" key
navigates us around on different clickables in webpages. clickables
are kind of important these days. but there's no key defined for NVDA
to locate clickables on wepages. I think this can't be done by
developping a new addon. it should be developped by main NVDA
designers and programmers.
thanks again.
I hope they will read this mail and assign a key for clickables. /
"slash" seems to be fine.
take care.





Re: NVDA and the new Spreely.com social network

Jonathan COHN
 

Hello,

I did not spend any time looking at the site, but most newer web development environments create a single page experience, where instead of refreshing the entire page when a link is clicked, only a little bit of the page is updated. The Frontside podcast had some discussions a month or two back on how to improve accessibility in these sites. Also, at least two accessibility companies have started developing react accessibility widgets that have components that have been tested with both mobile and desktop screen readers.  


Re: last but not least on NVDA

Raha Tehrani
 

Hi Howard.
"wepages" was a spelling mistake. I just wanted to write "webpages"
but I made a mistake and typed "wepages"
clickables are important elements on webpages. they are like buttons
and links. by either clicking on which, or pressing enter, or space,
you will be directed to another page. or perhaps a file is either
played or downloaded. in a nutshell, they are as important as links
and buttons. I see lots of them in webpages these days. in Jaws, you
can move on different clickables by pressing / "slash" key. you can
also have the list of clickables by pressing control+insert+/
but unfortunately, NVDA lacks such a thing. suppose you are visiting a
webpage which plays a radio station, the play and pause controls are
shown as clickables. and they are located in the middle of the page.
in JAWS you can reach them by simply pressing / "slash" key once or
twice. however, it takes you much more time reaching them using NVDA.
you should arrow down until you reach them.
take care.

On 12/13/18, Howard Traxler <howard@traxlerenterprises.com> wrote:
All this time and I still don't know what "clickable" means.  I assumed
it is the same as a link.  Guess not, huh?  Up until now, I haven't
found a need to search for them.  And then "wepages"?  I am confused.


Howard

On 12/13/2018 2:30 AM, Raha Tehrani wrote:
Dear all.
I am going to tell you about a very little difficulty on NVDA.
as you all know, while using JAWS, pressing the / "slash" key
navigates us around on different clickables in webpages. clickables
are kind of important these days. but there's no key defined for NVDA
to locate clickables on wepages. I think this can't be done by
developping a new addon. it should be developped by main NVDA
designers and programmers.
thanks again.
I hope they will read this mail and assign a key for clickables. /
"slash" seems to be fine.
take care.






Re: last but not least on NVDA

Jonathan COHN
 

Clickable means that if you click the mouse in that area the web page will run a JavaScript routine, but that the web designer knows too little about accessibility to define the area as a link or button. ,  In some sites it will just bring up a dialog better describing what the section is about in other pages it performs a real action. For example in the time code entry system that I use, completed time entry is clickable and in order to adjust reported time one needs to click on the appropriate time entry field. 


Re: last but not least on NVDA

Howard Traxler <howard@...>
 

All this time and I still don't know what "clickable" means.  I assumed it is the same as a link.  Guess not, huh?  Up until now, I haven't found a need to search for them.  And then "wepages"?  I am confused.


Howard

On 12/13/2018 2:30 AM, Raha Tehrani wrote:
Dear all.
I am going to tell you about a very little difficulty on NVDA.
as you all know, while using JAWS, pressing the / "slash" key
navigates us around on different clickables in webpages. clickables
are kind of important these days. but there's no key defined for NVDA
to locate clickables on wepages. I think this can't be done by
developping a new addon. it should be developped by main NVDA
designers and programmers.
thanks again.
I hope they will read this mail and assign a key for clickables. /
"slash" seems to be fine.
take care.



Re: Inquiry about adding a local voice in the get extra voices info in github viki.

Angaragerdene
 

Our TTS is only in Mongolian language, so I doubt it would be very
useful for you in that regard Shaun. :)

On 12/13/18, Shaun Everiss <sm.everiss@gmail.com> wrote:
I'd be interested myself quentin.

Bar the code factory voices on atguys the vocaliser ones which are sort
of cheapish, none of the voices in pack form are really that cheap.

I'd like to upgrade my voices to something 64 bit instead of using the
cracked freedomscientiffic ones I got of a friend ages back, I mean I
can use them legally as they came on a jaws 8 demo cd but they are not
64 bit and I have been thinking on updating my voice package.

The thing I want is a voice pack, so for me that means all english
language voices mainly but the only ones remotely like that is infovox
and thats about 300 bucks.

Thats ok ish I guess, but everything is more than that.



On 12/13/2018 8:25 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:
Hi Angaragerdene,

I'd love to find out more about your voice. Could you please write to me
off-list at info@nvaccess.org with more details please?

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Thu, Dec 13, 2018 at 5:18 PM Angaragerdene <b.angaragerdene@gmail.com>
wrote:

Hello:
We have developed local language tts voice and would love to get it in
the extra voices in github viki. As far as I know, Michael is the
editor of that page.
And I didn't find any information relating to this matter, whether it
is possible or not to add a local tts in that list, and whom I should
contact in case voice that supports different language than english
can be listed there.

Regards:
Angaragerdene






Re: last but not least on NVDA

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Raha,

We do have an open issue for this feature: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/124

It is fairly old, but there has been gradual discussion on it and any comments you might add to it or use cases etc would be welcome.

Kind regards

Quentin.


On Thu, Dec 13, 2018 at 7:30 PM Raha Tehrani <raha.tehrani1362@...> wrote:
Dear all.
I am going to tell you about a very little difficulty on NVDA.
as you all know, while using JAWS, pressing the / "slash" key
navigates us around on different clickables in webpages. clickables
are kind of important these days. but there's no key defined for NVDA
to locate clickables on wepages. I think this can't be done by
developping a new addon. it should be developped by main NVDA
designers and programmers.
thanks again.
I hope they will read this mail and assign a key for clickables. /
"slash" seems to be fine.
take care.





--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 


Re: Inquiry about adding a local voice in the get extra voices info in github viki.

 

I'd be interested myself quentin.

Bar the code factory voices on atguys the vocaliser ones which are sort of cheapish, none of the voices in pack form are really that cheap.

I'd like to upgrade my voices to something 64 bit instead of using the cracked freedomscientiffic ones I got of a friend ages back, I mean I can use them legally as they came on a jaws 8 demo cd but they are not 64 bit and I have been thinking on updating my voice package.

The thing I want is a voice pack, so for me that means all english language voices mainly but the only ones remotely like that is infovox and thats about 300 bucks.

Thats ok ish I guess, but everything is more than that.

On 12/13/2018 8:25 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:
Hi Angaragerdene,

I'd love to find out more about your voice. Could you please write to me
off-list at info@nvaccess.org with more details please?

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Thu, Dec 13, 2018 at 5:18 PM Angaragerdene <b.angaragerdene@gmail.com>
wrote:

Hello:
We have developed local language tts voice and would love to get it in
the extra voices in github viki. As far as I know, Michael is the
editor of that page.
And I didn't find any information relating to this matter, whether it
is possible or not to add a local tts in that list, and whom I should
contact in case voice that supports different language than english
can be listed there.

Regards:
Angaragerdene




Re: college course question

Brian K. Lingard
 

Dear Rose Marie et al & List:

 

I heard Hadley dropped their Medical Transcription course as it was unaccredited as well as low enrolment & dated.

Brian K. Lingard

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: December 12, 2018 12:14
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] college course question

 

Hi, Brian,

 

This is great to know. I used to be a medical transcriber years ago and Hadley used to have a medical transcription course years ago but they canceled it.

 

Rosemarie

 

On 12/12/2018 6:44 AM, Brian Vogel wrote:

By the way, The Lighthouse of Houston offers an 18-month distance learning medical transcription program, which is what my former JAWS student was planning to enroll in.  Additional information is available on this webpage:  https://www.houstonlighthouse.org/education-programs/ 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

          ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back

 

 


Re: Inquiry about adding a local voice in the get extra voices info in github viki.

 

What languages do your tts support, what is the web page, how much is it and do they go sapi5 as well as nvda?

On 12/13/2018 7:18 PM, Angaragerdene wrote:
Hello:
We have developed local language tts voice and would love to get it in
the extra voices in github viki. As far as I know, Michael is the
editor of that page.
And I didn't find any information relating to this matter, whether it
is possible or not to add a local tts in that list, and whom I should
contact in case voice that supports different language than english
can be listed there.

Regards:
Angaragerdene


.


[bhp] last but not least on NVDA

Raha Tehrani
 

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: "Raha Tehrani via Groups.Io" <raha.tehrani1362=gmail.com@groups.io>
Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2018 12:00:36 +0330
Subject: [bhp] last but not least on NVDA
To: bhp <bhp@groups.io>, nvda@nvda.groups.io

Dear all.
I am going to tell you about a very little difficulty on NVDA.
as you all know, while using JAWS, pressing the / "slash" key
navigates us around on different clickables in webpages. clickables
are kind of important these days. but there's no key defined for NVDA
to locate clickables on wepages. I think this can't be done by
developping a new addon. it should be developped by main NVDA
designers and programmers.
thanks again.
I hope they will read this mail and assign a key for clickables. /
"slash" seems to be fine.
take care.


last but not least on NVDA

Raha Tehrani
 

Dear all.
I am going to tell you about a very little difficulty on NVDA.
as you all know, while using JAWS, pressing the / "slash" key
navigates us around on different clickables in webpages. clickables
are kind of important these days. but there's no key defined for NVDA
to locate clickables on wepages. I think this can't be done by
developping a new addon. it should be developped by main NVDA
designers and programmers.
thanks again.
I hope they will read this mail and assign a key for clickables. /
"slash" seems to be fine.
take care.


Re: Inquiry about adding a local voice in the get extra voices info in github viki.

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Angaragerdene,

I'd love to find out more about your voice.  Could you please write to me off-list at info@... with more details please?

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Thu, Dec 13, 2018 at 5:18 PM Angaragerdene <b.angaragerdene@...> wrote:
Hello:
We have developed local language tts voice and would love to get it in
the extra voices in github viki. As far as I know, Michael is the
editor of that page.
And I didn't find any information relating to this matter, whether it
is possible or not to add a local tts in that list, and whom I should
contact in case  voice that supports  different language than english
can be listed there.

Regards:
Angaragerdene





--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 


Inquiry about adding a local voice in the get extra voices info in github viki.

Angaragerdene
 

Hello:
We have developed local language tts voice and would love to get it in
the extra voices in github viki. As far as I know, Michael is the
editor of that page.
And I didn't find any information relating to this matter, whether it
is possible or not to add a local tts in that list, and whom I should
contact in case voice that supports different language than english
can be listed there.

Regards:
Angaragerdene


Re: college course question

Brian K. Lingard
 

Dear Sarah & List:
Try researching My Chart then ask your Doctors to consider running it. Not
sure if commercial or freeware.
Brian K. Lingard

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: December 12, 2018 9:43
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] college course question

Nice. But sadly they don't I don't think have that here, I'm not in the med
field anymore but like I said I deal with many websites personally and yeah,
it's annoying.

On 12 Dec 2018, at 5:57, Brian K. Lingard wrote:

Dear Sarah & List:

Friend of mine in Oregon swears by an App called My Chart.

Displays test results, doctor appointments, all easily read with
Voiceover on His iPhone X.
Brian K. Lingard


From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf of Sarah k
Alawami
Sent: December 11, 2018 23:10
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] college course question

I doubt that will be accessible. You can try it, but I have not so far
have
had any good experience with online medical anything thus far. I have
to
deal with med stuff for my personal life and it is not accessible.

On 11 Dec 2018, at 17:48, The Wolf wrote:

Hello I am thinking about going to a college for a 9-month program in
medical billing and coding.

the online platform that the school uses is canvas
re>>
is this platform blind friendly? or should I just look in to other
colleges that use a different platform?

oh and I would be using nvda of course

unless the school disability office purchases jaws for me but I would
prefer to use nvda

thanks for any help you can give.

Hank


--
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https://youtu.be/YeWgx2LRu7Y


Re: collige course question

Desert Moon
 

Hello Hank and Else,

The Canvas Learning Management System supports both JAWS and NVDA:

https://community.canvaslms.com/docs/DOC-2061-accessibility-within-canvas


--
Desert


Re: questions about .pdf forms

Dale Leavens
 

The problem when using modern word processors is the variability of font size and spacing. You need to be certain that edits will match both for appearance and accurate location.


Several decades ago using a CP/M computer I purchased a strip of plastic with tractor feeds on each side into which I could fit a sheet of paper, specifically intended for computer filling pre-printed paper forms.

You started by printing a grid of numbers and lines for cell and row positioning over the blank form then set up a form in the word processor and specifying X and Y coordinates. This worked when the character positions war 80 across the line but would be a bit more difficult to achieve today depending on the pitch of the font being used

Still, there may be something in this which you could use to locate the input fields you require for the form.

Cheers.

Dale Leavens

On Dec 12, 2018, at 4:31 PM, Governor staten <govsta@gmail.com> wrote:

Here's a link to the file. It appears that if I send it to myself or not, it
is still editable. Obviously, when you print it out on paper, it wouldn't
be.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/kmpjswu9sp4mau6/yet%20official%20donation%20thank%
20you%20letter.pdf?dl=1




-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Antony Stone
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 4:05 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] questions about .pdf forms

I think your best bet here is to:

a) post a link to the sample forms you're talking about so we can see them
for ourselves, rather than guessing how they may have been set up

b) fill in such a form and post the results (or a link to the results; I
can't remember whether this list accepts attachments or not), so we can let
you know what we can see and what we can't

c) get a sighted person (and there are some on this list) to tell you what
they can see (and what they can't) in the final result, which I guess is
what you're mostly interested in, when it finally comes down to it.


Regards,

Antony.

On Wednesday 12 December 2018 at 22:00:19, Governor staten wrote:

Hello list. I have a few questions about editing.pdf forms. We have
downloaded a few sample thank you letters for our use. They are in
.pdf format, and appear to be very accessible. One thing we are not
sure of is if the previous sample content shows up when we either send
the letter to someone or print it out to be sent. We see what was
there before, when we are not in focus mode. When we go into focus
mode, we are seeing only what is written by us. If others need to take
a look at this, I'll put a link to it on Dropbox to be accessed.

Again, I'm curious to know if the sample content can be seen by anyone
else, other than us. If it can be, that's a big problem. It could be
that there is something I don't understand about working with these
types of forms. I guess I need an explanation of how these templates
work, and what happens when you edit one. Does the reader see only
what you want them to see, and not the template text? I pray this is
clear enough. If not, ask questions, and I'll do my best to answer.
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If you want to be happy for a year, get married.
If you want to be happy for a lifetime, get a garden.

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Re: New Vocalizer and Vocalizer-Expressive addons from Tiflotecnia

Rui Fontes
 

Hello!

Vocalizer Automotive is 75 EUR, Vocalizer Expressive is 90 EUR.

Best regards,

Rui Fontes
Tiflotecnia, Lda.


Às 23:07 de 12/12/2018, Abbie Taylor escreveu:

How much do the tiflotecnia driver and voices cost? I went to the NV access site and didn't see a price, only the link to download the driver and a table of links to download the various voices. Naturally, I thought they were free, but it's a good thing I decided to wait to download them until I got more information.
--
Abbie Johnson Taylor, Author
http://www.abbiejohnsontaylor.com
http://abbiescorner.wordpress.com
abbietaylor945@gmail.com


Re: New Vocalizer and Vocalizer-Expressive addons from Tiflotecnia

Abbie Taylor <abbietaylor945@...>
 

How much do the tiflotecnia driver and voices cost? I went to the NV access site and didn't see a price, only the link to download the driver and a table of links to download the various voices. Naturally, I thought they were free, but it's a good thing I decided to wait to download them until I got more information.
--
Abbie Johnson Taylor, Author
http://www.abbiejohnsontaylor.com
http://abbiescorner.wordpress.com
abbietaylor945@...