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Re: Tifkitecnia Demos

Bobby Vinton <vinton.bobby5277@...>
 

Hay I was wondering if nathin an the newest voices are in this update

 

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From: Rui Fontes
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 4:33 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Tifkitecnia Demos

 

At the begin, Nuance did not allow us to make a demo license...

So, we have put the scheme of the driiver be valid during a certain

number of days... But, that implies that we have to release new drivers

regularly...

 

In the last two years, or so, we decided to do not have demos...

 

In the next version we will have again a 15 days demo automatically...

 

Best regards,

 

Rui Fontes

Tiflotecnia, Lda.

 

 

Às 21:23 de 13/12/2018, Gene escreveu:

> It's unfortunate that the same absurd demo system is still being used

> years after I encountered it.  A demo is released that won't run after a

> certain date.  Whether a new demo is released before an updated driver

> comes out is something I don't know.  But this is absurd.  Why can't

> demos time out after a certain number of days or hours of use or

> something that makes the demo available in a way that people can use it

> when they want to consider the program, not only before a certain date.

> Can the company change this or is this something imposed by the product

> manufacturer?

> Gene

> ----- Original Message -----

> *From:* Earle Zwicker <mailto:rowdyamerican@...>

> *Sent:* Thursday, December 13, 2018 2:59 PM

> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

> *Subject:* [nvda] Tifkitecnia Demos

>

> Just wondering if Tiflotecnia offers demos of their Vocalizer add-on? I

> went to their download page and downloaded the latest driver and a

> bundle of English compact voices. I installed them and got a message

> that the demo was expired. Am I doing something wrong, or is there no

> demo available.

>

> Earle

>

>

>

 

 

 


Re: question about nvda add ons

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi


the following link may help you on questions that jaws users may ask when they take nvda for a test drive etc. the following link should help you you can jump down to the area about scripts or known as add ons with nvda but the rest of it you should find interesting.


The link to this page is https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda-community/wiki/SwitchingFromJawsToNVDA

hopefully it helps you.


gene nz


On 14/12/2018 9:15 AM, molly the blind tech lover wrote:
Hey guys? I keep trying to reply to your responses to my question, but my Internet keeps going out. Darn Comcast. I'm sending this before the Internet goes out... again. 

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Arlene
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 2:33 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] question about nvda add ons

Yes Molly, NVDA addons are like Jaws scripts. You add them as you see fit.

On 12/13/18, molly the blind tech lover <brainardmolly@...> wrote:
Hey guys, Molly here again.

I was just wondering, is an NVDA add on the equivalent of jaws 
scripts? I realize that add ons enhance the functionality of NVDA. 
Isn't that similar to Jaws scripting? Or am I way off base here?

Thanks.











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Re: Tifkitecnia Demos

Rui Fontes
 

At the begin, Nuance did not allow us to make a demo license...
So, we have put the scheme of the driiver be valid during a certain number of days... But, that implies that we have to release new drivers regularly...

In the last two years, or so, we decided to do not have demos...

In the next version we will have again a 15 days demo automatically...

Best regards,

Rui Fontes
Tiflotecnia, Lda.


Às 21:23 de 13/12/2018, Gene escreveu:

It's unfortunate that the same absurd demo system is still being used years after I encountered it.  A demo is released that won't run after a certain date.  Whether a new demo is released before an updated driver comes out is something I don't know.  But this is absurd.  Why can't demos time out after a certain number of days or hours of use or something that makes the demo available in a way that people can use it when they want to consider the program, not only before a certain date.
Can the company change this or is this something imposed by the product manufacturer?
Gene
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Earle Zwicker <mailto:rowdyamerican@gmail.com>
*Sent:* Thursday, December 13, 2018 2:59 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* [nvda] Tifkitecnia Demos
Just wondering if Tiflotecnia offers demos of their Vocalizer add-on? I
went to their download page and downloaded the latest driver and a
bundle of English compact voices. I installed them and got a message
that the demo was expired. Am I doing something wrong, or is there no
demo available.
Earle


Re: Tifkitecnia Demos

Gene
 

It's unfortunate that the same absurd demo system is still being used years after I encountered it.  A demo is released that won't run after a certain date.  Whether a new demo is released before an updated driver comes out is something I don't know.  But this is absurd.  Why can't demos time out after a certain number of days or hours of use or something that makes the demo available in a way that people can use it when they want to consider the program, not only before a certain date. 
 
Can the company change this or is this something imposed by the product manufacturer?
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 2:59 PM
Subject: [nvda] Tifkitecnia Demos

Just wondering if Tiflotecnia offers demos of their Vocalizer add-on? I
went to their download page and downloaded the latest driver and a
bundle of English compact voices. I installed them and got a message
that the demo was expired. Am I doing something wrong, or is there no
demo available.

Earle



Re: NVDA and the new Spreely.com social network

Pascal Lambert <coccinelle86@...>
 

Hi,

Thanks for your feedback.  Do you know the names of the two companies you mentioned?

I am trying to help Terry and Marc, the two developers, as they are willing to make the new site accessible to blind persons.  Marc worked for Facebook.  He packed and left when FB closed his 3.5 million members group for their conservative views.  

Many thanks

Blessings

Pascal

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Cohn, Jonathan
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 10:04 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and the new Spreely.com social network

 

Hello,

I did not spend any time looking at the site, but most newer web development environments create a single page experience, where instead of refreshing the entire page when a link is clicked, only a little bit of the page is updated. The Frontside podcast had some discussions a month or two back on how to improve accessibility in these sites. Also, at least two accessibility companies have started developing react accessibility widgets that have components that have been tested with both mobile and desktop screen readers.  


Re: Tifkitecnia Demos

Rui Fontes
 

By now, we have no demo version.

Best regards,

Rui Fontes
Tiflotecnia, Lda.


Às 20:59 de 13/12/2018, Earle Zwicker escreveu:

Just wondering if Tiflotecnia offers demos of their Vocalizer add-on? I went to their download page and downloaded the latest driver and a bundle of English compact voices. I installed them and got a message that the demo was expired. Am I doing something wrong, or is there no demo available.
Earle


Tifkitecnia Demos

Earle Zwicker
 

Just wondering if Tiflotecnia offers demos of their Vocalizer add-on? I went to their download page and downloaded the latest driver and a bundle of English compact voices. I installed them and got a message that the demo was expired. Am I doing something wrong, or is there no demo available.

Earle


Re: question about nvda add ons

Jackie
 

Brian v. I could've been clearer in my explanation, perhaps. Jaws
scripts, for the most part, are triggered by keystrokes in an
application that are tied to the jaws script. So, for example, using
Notepad, I could (& have) written a Jaws script such that the
keystroke alt down arrow read the contents of the column where the
cursor was. But the scripts are tied to a specific application, in
this case Notepad. While NVDA's addon facilities can be used
similarly, they can also be used very differently, ie, creating
applications that didn't exist. The remote NVDA addon as well as some
of Joseph Lee's apps like the addon updater & his Win 10 essentials
are examples of this latter, broader, more powerful concept. The basic
reason is simply that the Jaws scripting language doesn't have the
facilities of Python. So yes--the 2 are similar in that they are both
intended to create increased accessibility, but they differ
considerably in the power of the tools used & therefore what can be
accomplished w/them.

On 12/13/18, molly the blind tech lover <brainardmolly@gmail.com> wrote:
Hey guys? I keep trying to reply to your responses to my question, but my
Internet keeps going out. Darn Comcast. I'm sending this before the Internet
goes out... again.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Arlene
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 2:33 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] question about nvda add ons

Yes Molly, NVDA addons are like Jaws scripts. You add them as you see fit.

On 12/13/18, molly the blind tech lover <brainardmolly@gmail.com> wrote:
Hey guys, Molly here again.

I was just wondering, is an NVDA add on the equivalent of jaws
scripts? I realize that add ons enhance the functionality of NVDA.
Isn't that similar to Jaws scripting? Or am I way off base here?

Thanks.










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Re: question about nvda add ons

molly the blind tech lover
 

Hey guys? I keep trying to reply to your responses to my question, but my Internet keeps going out. Darn Comcast. I'm sending this before the Internet goes out... again.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Arlene
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 2:33 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] question about nvda add ons

Yes Molly, NVDA addons are like Jaws scripts. You add them as you see fit.

On 12/13/18, molly the blind tech lover <brainardmolly@gmail.com> wrote:
Hey guys, Molly here again.

I was just wondering, is an NVDA add on the equivalent of jaws
scripts? I realize that add ons enhance the functionality of NVDA.
Isn't that similar to Jaws scripting? Or am I way off base here?

Thanks.





Re: question about nvda add ons

molly the blind tech lover
 

interesting. good to know.


On Thu, Dec 13, 2018, 2:27 PM Brian Vogel <britechguy@... wrote:
Molly,

           I'll have to disagree with Jackie, at least in part.  While exactly what can be done in NVDA add-ons as far as scope is different than JAWS scripts, the basic concept is precisely the same.  There exist lots of unofficial NVDA extensions developed by individuals that are related to making specific applications accessible.  Even a good number of the official add-ons at https://addons.nvda-project.org/index.en.html are directly related to a single application.

           Some of the scope differences have come about secondary to design philosophy for NVDA that was relatively "set in stone" from the outset and where there are core functions, which are part of NVDA itself, and non-core functions, which are handled by add-ons.  NVDA Remote could easily have been part of NVDA core functionality (as could a number of other add-ons) but what those add-ons do was not classed as a core function of the screen reader, so those functions are handled by add-ons.

            There has been discussion of potentially making certain functions currently served by add-ons core functionality of NVDA, but I cannot for the life of me remember which ones right now.  Those discussions come and go on this group and probably occur a lot more frequently and intensely on NVDA's github, the actual developers hang-out (for lack of a better term).

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Re: question about nvda add ons

Arlene
 

Yes Molly, NVDA addons are like Jaws scripts. You add them as you see fit.

On 12/13/18, molly the blind tech lover <brainardmolly@gmail.com> wrote:
Hey guys, Molly here again.

I was just wondering, is an NVDA add on the equivalent of jaws scripts? I
realize that add ons enhance the functionality of NVDA. Isn't that similar
to Jaws scripting? Or am I way off base here?

Thanks.





Re: question about nvda add ons

 

Molly,

           I'll have to disagree with Jackie, at least in part.  While exactly what can be done in NVDA add-ons as far as scope is different than JAWS scripts, the basic concept is precisely the same.  There exist lots of unofficial NVDA extensions developed by individuals that are related to making specific applications accessible.  Even a good number of the official add-ons at https://addons.nvda-project.org/index.en.html are directly related to a single application.

           Some of the scope differences have come about secondary to design philosophy for NVDA that was relatively "set in stone" from the outset and where there are core functions, which are part of NVDA itself, and non-core functions, which are handled by add-ons.  NVDA Remote could easily have been part of NVDA core functionality (as could a number of other add-ons) but what those add-ons do was not classed as a core function of the screen reader, so those functions are handled by add-ons.

            There has been discussion of potentially making certain functions currently served by add-ons core functionality of NVDA, but I cannot for the life of me remember which ones right now.  Those discussions come and go on this group and probably occur a lot more frequently and intensely on NVDA's github, the actual developers hang-out (for lack of a better term).

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A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

          ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back

 

 


Re: question about nvda add ons

Jackie
 

Not really, Molly. Though there are some similarities, Jaws scripting
is pretty much basically confined to an existing application, while
NVDA addons can creat entirely new 1's, for example, the remote addon.

On 12/13/18, molly the blind tech lover <brainardmolly@gmail.com> wrote:
Hey guys, Molly here again.

I was just wondering, is an NVDA add on the equivalent of jaws scripts? I
realize that add ons enhance the functionality of NVDA. Isn't that similar
to Jaws scripting? Or am I way off base here?

Thanks.




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Re: Donating/purchasing from the NVDA website

Jackie
 

Sile, Paypal does the conversion from Australian dollars automatically
& tells you how much in your currency that comes to. It really is not
an issue.

On 12/13/18, Sile via Groups.Io <somodhrain=googlemail.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hello


I just crashed out of buying products and donating to NVDA because their
website frustrated me.  I was stuck in australian dollars for currency
and in an australian address format.  Then when I went to donate, it
took me out of my shopping cart and I lost the products that were in
there.  So NVDA got nothing from me today.  I am guessing I am not the
only person to be put off donating and purchasing because of these
website glitches..


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question about nvda add ons

molly the blind tech lover
 

Hey guys, Molly here again.

I was just wondering, is an NVDA add on the equivalent of jaws scripts? I realize that add ons enhance the functionality of NVDA. Isn’t that similar to Jaws scripting? Or am I way off base here?

Thanks.


Re: ccleaner new version

Roger Stewart
 

Can you please give the link for the latest portable version and the latest .ini file?  Sad to report the link you gave for the direct portable version download has switched to the main installer for cCleaner and the portable version doesn't even show on that page now. I've deleted that old link so we will all need a new one.  Anyhow, what is the advantage of using the latest and greatest version anyhow?  I ran the old one I have and it seemed to work just fine here.  I also find that the built in disk cleanup utility can free many times the space as CCleaner but it will still get some things the disk cleanup can't get so I need to use both of them.  CCleaner removed just over a half GB of junk while the disk cleanup got rid of a bit over 9 GB of unnecessary stuff!

Roger

On 12/13/2018 11:59 AM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
Hi all.

A small note to all of you, although there is a new version of this out, there are no settings of note updated in the ini file, so I'm not uploading one





ccleaner new version

 

Hi all.

A small note to all of you, although there is a new version of this out, there are no settings of note updated in the ini file, so I'm not uploading one


Donating/purchasing from the NVDA website

Sile
 

Hello


I just crashed out of buying products and donating to NVDA because their website frustrated me.  I was stuck in australian dollars for currency and in an australian address format.  Then when I went to donate, it took me out of my shopping cart and I lost the products that were in there.  So NVDA got nothing from me today.  I am guessing I am not the only person to be put off donating and purchasing because of these website glitches..


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Re: last but not least on NVDA

Howard Traxler <howard@...>
 

Thanks, Raha,


I now feel more informed.  Do appreciate it.


Howard

On 12/13/2018 9:01 AM, Raha Tehrani wrote:
Hi Howard.
"wepages" was a spelling mistake. I just wanted to write "webpages"
but I made a mistake and typed "wepages"
clickables are important elements on webpages. they are like buttons
and links. by either clicking on which, or pressing enter, or space,
you will be directed to another page. or perhaps a file is either
played or downloaded. in a nutshell, they are as important as links
and buttons. I see lots of them in webpages these days. in Jaws, you
can move on different clickables by pressing / "slash" key. you can
also have the list of clickables by pressing control+insert+/
but unfortunately, NVDA lacks such a thing. suppose you are visiting a
webpage which plays a radio station, the play and pause controls are
shown as clickables. and they are located in the middle of the page.
in JAWS you can reach them by simply pressing / "slash" key once or
twice. however, it takes you much more time reaching them using NVDA.
you should arrow down until you reach them.
take care.

On 12/13/18, Howard Traxler <howard@traxlerenterprises.com> wrote:
All this time and I still don't know what "clickable" means.  I assumed
it is the same as a link.  Guess not, huh?  Up until now, I haven't
found a need to search for them.  And then "wepages"?  I am confused.


Howard

On 12/13/2018 2:30 AM, Raha Tehrani wrote:
Dear all.
I am going to tell you about a very little difficulty on NVDA.
as you all know, while using JAWS, pressing the / "slash" key
navigates us around on different clickables in webpages. clickables
are kind of important these days. but there's no key defined for NVDA
to locate clickables on wepages. I think this can't be done by
developping a new addon. it should be developped by main NVDA
designers and programmers.
thanks again.
I hope they will read this mail and assign a key for clickables. /
"slash" seems to be fine.
take care.





Re: NVDA and the new Spreely.com social network

Jonathan COHN
 

Hello,

I did not spend any time looking at the site, but most newer web development environments create a single page experience, where instead of refreshing the entire page when a link is clicked, only a little bit of the page is updated. The Frontside podcast had some discussions a month or two back on how to improve accessibility in these sites. Also, at least two accessibility companies have started developing react accessibility widgets that have components that have been tested with both mobile and desktop screen readers.