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Re: Can somebody remind me..

Michel Such
 

ctrl+Windows+enter


Michel Such

Le 15/12/2018 à 20:00, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io a écrit :
What the key combination for Narrator is on windows 10? I'm going to attempt to wean a person off of Dolphin Guide which seems to be not up to the job and onto nvda, but I'll need to use narrator in between I think.

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Re: latest RC build of NVDA goes mute on windows 10 settings

 

Hi,

Try:

  1. Press NVDA_Q, then from exit dialog options, select “restart with add-ons disabled”.
  2. After NVDA restarts, use Settings app (Windows+I) and see if NVDA announces things.
  3. If NvDA still does not announce things, press NVDA+Q, then select “restart with debug logging enabled”.
  4. After NVDA restarts for the second time, go to Settings app once more and see if NVDA announces things.
  5. Press NVDA+F1 to open log viewer, then copy and paste everything in there and send it to me and Quentin privately.

 

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Weakland
Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2018 10:57 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] latest RC build of NVDA goes mute on windows 10 settings

 

how would i do this?

 

On 12/15/2018 12:40 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

Yes, also can't reproduce this here. If you can please provide a debug log so that the other joseph and team can help troubleshoot.

Take care

On 15 Dec 2018, at 10:31, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:

Hi

 

Just tested it with windows 10 version  1809 with the windows key + letter I to get into the settings and when it opens it lands in the search box when you tab it still works well speaking the different sections and sub sections.

 

Gene nz

 

On 16/12/2018 5:56 AM, Joseph Weakland wrote:

when i do a windows i for settings, the settins opens, and NVDA goes silent and don't speak so i have to alt tab out and then will speak when its back on desktop or other stuff but settings box it is mute:(

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Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.

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Can somebody remind me..

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What the key combination for Narrator is on windows 10? I'm going to attempt to wean a person off of Dolphin Guide which seems to be not up to the job and onto nvda, but I'll need to use narrator in between I think.

Brian

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Re: latest RC build of NVDA goes mute on windows 10 settings

Joseph Weakland
 

how would i do this?


On 12/15/2018 12:40 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

Yes, also can't reproduce this here. If you can please provide a debug log so that the other joseph and team can help troubleshoot.

Take care

On 15 Dec 2018, at 10:31, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:

Hi


Just tested it with windows 10 version  1809 with the windows key + letter I to get into the settings and when it opens it lands in the search box when you tab it still works well speaking the different sections and sub sections.


Gene nz


On 16/12/2018 5:56 AM, Joseph Weakland wrote:
when i do a windows i for settings, the settins opens, and NVDA goes silent and don't speak so i have to alt tab out and then will speak when its back on desktop or other stuff but settings box it is mute:(


--
Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.
-- 
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sent from my windows 10 pc


Re: this is less!

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Its the increasing complexity of this, in my view, pointless obsession with little pictures instead of words. OK I can cope with smilly or sad or other indications of how a particular piece of text show be seen, ie sarcasm comedy or
whatever, but as for the rest, well, call me an old curmudgeon if you like but we were given languages and yet they prefer to use pictures.

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Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2018 12:24 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] this is less!


Hi,
I believe that this change was made looking for the new emojis panel.
Like, now you have what I'd call subcategories, such as skin tones and
more. So it's the only way we can have access to all of this emojis, I
guess.

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Em 15/12/2018 09:27, P. Otter escreveu:
hi all,
in nvda 2018.4rc2 there are made changes I'm not glad with it.
it's about the emoticons.
before it was made that when you press the tab, you change the catechory
but now first you have to press windowskey plus dot or ;
after that you have to press tab to
to choose a catechory
now with right arrow choose a catechory now enter again, after that
you can tab to find the list!
before it was a lot easyer!
that was press windowskey plus .
than tab to the right catechory after that you find immediately the list!
this is much more cumbersome I think!
you can better take the way as before
in the beginning of nvda 2018.4.
cheers
paul otter







Re: this is less!

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I wonder what the I hate Windows 10 imogee might be like.....:-)

Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "P. Otter" <pam.otter@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2018 2:13 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] this is less!


ok, that is possible the windows it self has been changed!!
thanks.
cheers
paul otter.

Op 15-12-2018 om 14:19 schreef Joseph Lee:
Hi,
This is rather a change in Windows 10 Version 1809, not NVDA.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of P. Otter
Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2018 3:28 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] this is less!

hi all,
in nvda 2018.4rc2 there are made changes I'm not glad with it.
it's about the emoticons.
before it was made that when you press the tab, you change the catechory but now first you have to press windowskey plus dot or ; after that you have to press tab to to choose a catechory now with right arrow choose a catechory now enter again, after that you can tab to find the list!
before it was a lot easyer!
that was press windowskey plus .
than tab to the right catechory after that you find immediately the list!
this is much more cumbersome I think!
you can better take the way as before
in the beginning of nvda 2018.4.
cheers
paul otter








Re: latest RC build of NVDA goes mute on windows 10 settings

Sarah k Alawami
 

Yes, also can't reproduce this here. If you can please provide a debug log so that the other joseph and team can help troubleshoot.

Take care

On 15 Dec 2018, at 10:31, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:

Hi


Just tested it with windows 10 version  1809 with the windows key + letter I to get into the settings and when it opens it lands in the search box when you tab it still works well speaking the different sections and sub sections.


Gene nz


On 16/12/2018 5:56 AM, Joseph Weakland wrote:
when i do a windows i for settings, the settins opens, and NVDA goes silent and don't speak so i have to alt tab out and then will speak when its back on desktop or other stuff but settings box it is mute:(


--
Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.


Re: latest RC build of NVDA goes mute on windows 10 settings

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi


Just tested it with windows 10 version  1809 with the windows key + letter I to get into the settings and when it opens it lands in the search box when you tab it still works well speaking the different sections and sub sections.


Gene nz


On 16/12/2018 5:56 AM, Joseph Weakland wrote:
when i do a windows i for settings, the settins opens, and NVDA goes silent and don't speak so i have to alt tab out and then will speak when its back on desktop or other stuff but settings box it is mute:(


--
Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.


Re: Accessibility Guidelines 2.1.3_Tab key or arrow key #advisory

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I'd have thought both have their place in a properly designed system. Standard use of windows keys is surely a must.
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----- Original Message -----
From: <tarveen.kaur@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2018 2:08 PM
Subject: [nvda] Accessibility Guidelines 2.1.3_Tab key or arrow key #advisory


For texas submission do we need to have tab key or arrow key compatible for all type of content, do we need to ensure that all content is 100% accessible via tab key or arrow key.


Re: latest RC build of NVDA goes mute on windows 10 settings

 

Hi,
Does restarting with add-ons disabled help? If not, may I and Quentin get a debug log from you please?
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Weakland
Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2018 8:57 AM
To: nvda discussion list <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] latest RC build of NVDA goes mute on windows 10 settings

when i do a windows i for settings, the settins opens, and NVDA goes silent and don't speak so i have to alt tab out and then will speak when its back on desktop or other stuff but settings box it is mute:(


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latest RC build of NVDA goes mute on windows 10 settings

Joseph Weakland
 

when i do a windows i for settings, the settins opens, and NVDA goes silent and don't speak so i have to alt tab out and then will speak when its back on desktop or other stuff but settings box it is mute:(


--
Joseph Weakland
email
@HarmonicaPlayer
sent from my windows 10 pc


Re: Accessibility Guidelines 2.1.3_Tab key or arrow key #advisory

 

i believe yes, using arrow and tab keys is the best and most accessible way.

On 12/15/18, tarveen.kaur@... <tarveen.kaur@...> wrote:
For texas submission do we need to have tab key or arrow key compatible for
all type of content, do we need to ensure that all content is 100%
accessible via tab key or arrow key.



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Re: this is less!

P. Otter
 

ok, that is possible the windows it self has been changed!!
thanks.
cheers
paul otter.

Op 15-12-2018 om 14:19 schreef Joseph Lee:

Hi,
This is rather a change in Windows 10 Version 1809, not NVDA.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of P. Otter
Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2018 3:28 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] this is less!

hi all,
in nvda 2018.4rc2 there are made changes I'm not glad with it.
it's about the emoticons.
before it was made that when you press the tab, you change the catechory but now first you have to press windowskey plus dot or ; after that you have to press tab to to choose a catechory now with right arrow choose a catechory now enter again, after that you can tab to find the list!
before it was a lot easyer!
that was press windowskey plus .
than tab to the right catechory after that you find immediately the list!
this is much more cumbersome I think!
you can better take the way as before
in the beginning of nvda 2018.4.
cheers
paul otter







Re: this is less!

P. Otter
 

I've seen I have to tab,  then choose catechory then enter then tab again to bring up the list in the catechory you want.
before it was a lot more simple.

Op 15-12-2018 om 14:10 schreef Chris via Groups.Io:

When you open the emoticon panel in windows its already on the emoticons , so just arrow to the emoticon you require and hit enter, its as simple as that, nothing to do with nvda 🤣🤣s

 

From: P. Otter
Sent: 15 December 2018 11:27
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] this is less!

 

hi all,

in nvda 2018.4rc2 there are made changes I'm not glad with it.

it's about the emoticons.

before it was made that when you press the tab, you change the catechory

but now first you have to press windowskey plus dot or ;

after that you have to press tab to

to choose a catechory

now with right arrow  choose a catechory now enter again, after that you

can tab to find the list!

before it was a lot easyer!

that was press windowskey plus .

than tab to the right catechory after that you find immediately the list!

this is much more cumbersome I think!

you can better take the way as before

in the beginning of nvda 2018.4.

cheers

paul otter

 

 

 

 



Re: this is less!

P. Otter
 

I've seen I have to tab,  then choose catechory then enter then tab again to bring up the list in the catechory you want.
before it was a lot more simple.

Op 15-12-2018 om 14:10 schreef Chris via Groups.Io:

When you open the emoticon panel in windows its already on the emoticons , so just arrow to the emoticon you require and hit enter, its as simple as that, nothing to do with nvda 🤣🤣s

 

From: P. Otter
Sent: 15 December 2018 11:27
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] this is less!

 

hi all,

in nvda 2018.4rc2 there are made changes I'm not glad with it.

it's about the emoticons.

before it was made that when you press the tab, you change the catechory

but now first you have to press windowskey plus dot or ;

after that you have to press tab to

to choose a catechory

now with right arrow  choose a catechory now enter again, after that you

can tab to find the list!

before it was a lot easyer!

that was press windowskey plus .

than tab to the right catechory after that you find immediately the list!

this is much more cumbersome I think!

you can better take the way as before

in the beginning of nvda 2018.4.

cheers

paul otter

 

 

 

 



Accessibility Guidelines 2.1.3_Tab key or arrow key #advisory

tarveen.kaur@...
 

For texas submission do we need to have tab key or arrow key compatible for all type of content, do we need to ensure that all content is 100% accessible via tab key or arrow key.


Re: this is less!

P. Otter
 

no, that was also possible before 2018.4 rc1
so i don't know why they has changed.
cheers
paul o

the only you had to do was p   

Op 15-12-2018 om 13:24 schreef marcio via Groups.Io:

Hi,
I believe that this change was made looking for the new emojis panel. Like, now you have what I'd call subcategories, such as skin tones and more. So it's the only way we can have access to all of this emojis, I guess.
Em 15/12/2018 09:27, P. Otter escreveu:
hi all,
in nvda 2018.4rc2 there are made changes I'm not glad with it.
it's about the emoticons.
before it was made that when you press the tab, you change the catechory
but now first you have to press windowskey plus dot or ;
after that you have to press tab to
to choose a catechory
now with right arrow  choose a catechory now enter again, after that you can tab to find the list!
before it was a lot easyer!
that was press windowskey plus .
than tab to the right catechory after that you find immediately the list!
this is much more cumbersome I think!
you can better take the way as before
in the beginning of nvda 2018.4.
cheers
paul otter








Re: this is less!

 

Hi,
This is rather a change in Windows 10 Version 1809, not NVDA.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of P. Otter
Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2018 3:28 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] this is less!

hi all,
in nvda 2018.4rc2 there are made changes I'm not glad with it.
it's about the emoticons.
before it was made that when you press the tab, you change the catechory but now first you have to press windowskey plus dot or ; after that you have to press tab to to choose a catechory now with right arrow choose a catechory now enter again, after that you can tab to find the list!
before it was a lot easyer!
that was press windowskey plus .
than tab to the right catechory after that you find immediately the list!
this is much more cumbersome I think!
you can better take the way as before
in the beginning of nvda 2018.4.
cheers
paul otter


Re: this is less!

Chris
 

When you open the emoticon panel in windows its already on the emoticons , so just arrow to the emoticon you require and hit enter, its as simple as that, nothing to do with nvda 🤣🤣s

 

From: P. Otter
Sent: 15 December 2018 11:27
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] this is less!

 

hi all,

in nvda 2018.4rc2 there are made changes I'm not glad with it.

it's about the emoticons.

before it was made that when you press the tab, you change the catechory

but now first you have to press windowskey plus dot or ;

after that you have to press tab to

to choose a catechory

now with right arrow  choose a catechory now enter again, after that you

can tab to find the list!

before it was a lot easyer!

that was press windowskey plus .

than tab to the right catechory after that you find immediately the list!

this is much more cumbersome I think!

you can better take the way as before

in the beginning of nvda 2018.4.

cheers

paul otter

 

 

 

 


Re: this is less!

 

Hi,
I believe that this change was made looking for the new emojis panel. Like, now you have what I'd call subcategories, such as skin tones and more. So it's the only way we can have access to all of this emojis, I guess.
Em 15/12/2018 09:27, P. Otter escreveu:

hi all,
in nvda 2018.4rc2 there are made changes I'm not glad with it.
it's about the emoticons.
before it was made that when you press the tab, you change the catechory
but now first you have to press windowskey plus dot or ;
after that you have to press tab to
to choose a catechory
now with right arrow  choose a catechory now enter again, after that you can tab to find the list!
before it was a lot easyer!
that was press windowskey plus .
than tab to the right catechory after that you find immediately the list!
this is much more cumbersome I think!
you can better take the way as before
in the beginning of nvda 2018.4.
cheers
paul otter