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Re: off topic question about deleting all emails from my inbox folder in outlook

molly the blind tech lover
 

Guys? I’m never going to delete the emails using my tablet. With only 4 gigabytes of ram and only one gigabyte available, it’s too slow. Thank god my laptop has 4 gigabytes of ram left.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of molly the blind tech lover via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2018 3:41 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] off topic question about deleting all emails from my inbox folder in outlook

 

they're all deleted now.

 

On Wed, 19 Dec 2018, 3:35 pm Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@... wrote:

Hit control a, then delete? That should move everything to the trash. Then empty trash.

On 19 Dec 2018, at 12:18, molly the blind tech lover wrote:

Hey guys, Molly here again.

I want to select all the emails in my inbox and delete them. Is there a way to select all the emails all at once? Thanks.


Re: is there a short cut key for Use NVDA on the Windows logon screen (requires administrator privileges)

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi


When i asked the person about what I read using narrator to sign in first on the windows log on screen then turning on nvda they gave the following answer below.


From my perspective, as someone who manages computer desktops, having the ability to turn NVDA on at the Windows log on screen would be incredibly useful.  One of the reasons is that in our environment the computers are shared and are set up identically.
There are so many different scenarios on how a public computer is setup up and what functionality is locked down, including
·         Automatically logged in with “full desktop” including Windows Search & all programs start menu
·         Automatically logged in with “kiosk” mode EG might just have a web browser running full screen, no desktop no keyboard shortcuts
·         Windows logon required - then any of the above type of desktop or a hybrid of the two
·         And of course full desktop PCs versus terminals running windows remote desktop sessions, or Citrix sessions, on a server
Getting NVDA to work in the above environments shouldn’t be too much of a challenge for IT departments if they are given the mandate - which is what you are all about doing. Gene nz


On 20/12/2018 10:24 AM, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:

Hi guys


Just a curiosity question I know in the nvda settings under general there is the  setting in the general section.


called Use NVDA on the Windows logon screen (requires administrator privileges)  I was wondering if there is a short cut to turn it on or off.

or would NVDA have to have admin rights of which it may not  unless that box is checked ?


The reason I am asking this question is as follows


I was reading under a FAQ page  with both narrator and nvda installed on a network that on some certain systems you had to log into the windows log on screen with narrator then it would turn its self off then you could start up NVDA.


Is that because narrator would have some type of other privilege that nvda does not?


I asked the question to the person after I read it to the people involved.


But just wanted to find out from this side or if a shortcut could be assigned? It is on a public network so i am guessing it would be a security risk?


Gene nz



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is there a short cut key for Use NVDA on the Windows logon screen (requires administrator privileges)

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi guys


Just a curiosity question I know in the nvda settings under general there is the  setting in the general section.


called Use NVDA on the Windows logon screen (requires administrator privileges)  I was wondering if there is a short cut to turn it on or off.

or would NVDA have to have admin rights of which it may not  unless that box is checked ?


The reason I am asking this question is as follows


I was reading under a FAQ page  with both narrator and nvda installed on a network that on some certain systems you had to log into the windows log on screen with narrator then it would turn its self off then you could start up NVDA.


Is that because narrator would have some type of other privilege that nvda does not?


I asked the question to the person after I read it to the people involved.


But just wanted to find out from this side or if a shortcut could be assigned? It is on a public network so i am guessing it would be a security risk?


Gene nz



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Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.


Windows 10 App Essentials 18.12.2 hotfix, plus some important announcements for 2019 releases #addonrelease

 

Hi all,

 

Windows 10 App Essentials 18.12.2 (stable) hotfix is now available. This hotfix resolves a problem in modern keyboard support where NVDA fails to announce things when emoji panel and/or cloud clipboard paste screen opens in Insider Preview build 18305. Also, 18.12.2 is the last stable release for 2018 and the last stable version to let you update this add-on via standalone update check mechanism provided by this add-on.

 

As always, the update can be found via:

  • Standalone update check: directly from this add-on.
  • Add-on Updater: check for add-on updates from NVDA menu/Tools.
  • Manual: addons.nvda-project.org under Windows 10 App Essentials entry/stable version link.

 

A few important announcements, most of them dealing with 2019 releases:

 

  1. Standalone update check feature from Windows 10 App Essentials will be disabled in upcoming 19.01 release; this feature will be removed completely in 19.02 in favor of Add-on Updater.
  2. Version 19.01.x will be the last stable release series to support Windows 10 Fall Creators Update (Version 1709/build 16299); version 19.02 will require April 2018 Update (Version 1803/build 17134).
  3. In case you’re using development snapshots of this add-on, there is a snapshot for you as well. In addition to what’s included in today’s stable hotfix, it’ll be the last development build to support Fall Creators Update (a snapshot destined for northern winter solstice (December 21st) will require April 2018 Update). Speaking of winter solstice build, that one will be the last snapshot of 2018.
  4. Starting with today’s development snapshot, Add-on Updater will be required to update Windows 10 App Essentials development builds.

 

Enjoy.

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: off topic question about deleting all emails from my inbox folder in outlook

molly the blind tech lover
 

they're all deleted now.


On Wed, 19 Dec 2018, 3:35 pm Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@... wrote:

Hit control a, then delete? That should move everything to the trash. Then empty trash.

On 19 Dec 2018, at 12:18, molly the blind tech lover wrote:

Hey guys, Molly here again.

I want to select all the emails in my inbox and delete them. Is there a way to select all the emails all at once? Thanks.


Re: off topic question about deleting all emails from my inbox folder in outlook

molly the blind tech lover
 

hi.
thanks, guys. it's deleting them, although i should have done this on my bigger machine. my tablet is taking a hundred years to delete them. and i feel really really sick. gross latte... bye.


On Wed, 19 Dec 2018, 3:32 pm Brian Moore <bmoore@... wrote:

Hi.  yep, in both cases, ctrL+a will select them all and then the delete key.


On 12/19/2018 3:18 PM, molly the blind tech lover wrote:

Hey guys, Molly here again.

I want to select all the emails in my inbox and delete them. Is there a way to select all the emails all at once? Thanks.


Re: off topic question about deleting all emails from my inbox folder in outlook

Gene
 

You can use shift delete to immediately delete everything and not send it to trash.
 
Gene

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Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2018 2:34 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] off topic question about deleting all emails from my inbox folder in outlook

Hit control a, then delete? That should move everything to the trash. Then empty trash.

On 19 Dec 2018, at 12:18, molly the blind tech lover wrote:

Hey guys, Molly here again.

I want to select all the emails in my inbox and delete them. Is there a way to select all the emails all at once? Thanks.


Re: off topic question about deleting all emails from my inbox folder in outlook

Gene
 

In any standard list, control selects everything in the list.  In a document, control a selects everything in the document.  in a standard edit field, even if it is only one line, control a selects everything.  At times, I use control a to select an e-mail address in the to line, then delete an e-mail address in a message I'm replying to.  Then I delete the address and put another there, if I want to change the recipient for some reason.
 
Gene

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Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2018 2:32 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] off topic question about deleting all emails from my inbox folder in outlook

Hi.  yep, in both cases, ctrL+a will select them all and then the delete key.


On 12/19/2018 3:18 PM, molly the blind tech lover wrote:

Hey guys, Molly here again.

I want to select all the emails in my inbox and delete them. Is there a way to select all the emails all at once? Thanks.


Re: off topic question about deleting all emails from my inbox folder in outlook

Sarah k Alawami
 

Hit control a, then delete? That should move everything to the trash. Then empty trash.

On 19 Dec 2018, at 12:18, molly the blind tech lover wrote:

Hey guys, Molly here again.

I want to select all the emails in my inbox and delete them. Is there a way to select all the emails all at once? Thanks.


Re: off topic question about deleting all emails from my inbox folder in outlook

Brian Moore
 

Hi.  yep, in both cases, ctrL+a will select them all and then the delete key.


On 12/19/2018 3:18 PM, molly the blind tech lover wrote:

Hey guys, Molly here again.

I want to select all the emails in my inbox and delete them. Is there a way to select all the emails all at once? Thanks.


Re: off topic question about deleting all emails from my inbox folder in outlook

Chris
 

Try ctrl+A

 

 

From: molly the blind tech lover
Sent: 19 December 2018 20:18
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] off topic question about deleting all emails from my inbox folder in outlook

 

Hey guys, Molly here again.

I want to select all the emails in my inbox and delete them. Is there a way to select all the emails all at once? Thanks.

 


off topic question about deleting all emails from my inbox folder in outlook

molly the blind tech lover
 

Hey guys, Molly here again.

I want to select all the emails in my inbox and delete them. Is there a way to select all the emails all at once? Thanks.


Re: latest alpha

 

Hi.
Maybe I'm a bit late on this topic but just wanted to say that at least fake clipboard announcement, which is an add-on that I use most of the time, is working though the warning. For the moment all we need to do is check the box about this add-on and then it's alright. Let's hope that it doesn't change.
Em 19/12/2018 12:38, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io escreveu:

I have loads including the very important application dictionary, toolbar explorer fake copy announcement  remote, open link with,  Extended  Winamp and dropbox to name but a few.
I do hope some third party can make these checked so they continue to work as they are very useful add ons for nvda. Of course in my view application dictionary and toolbar explorer should be part of core nvda in my thinking.
Brian

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Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2018 1:07 AM
Subject: [nvda] latest alpha


Just installed the latest alpha version of NVDA on my Win 10 1809 system.
It indicated that both speak passwords and Weather plus addons may be incompatible.  I have both enabled and seem to be working just fine with this latest NVDA Alpha.











Re: Problem installing latest update

Sarah k Alawami
 

Yeah, mine does not make any noise either, but I disabled it, and do every time I am on windows anything. I'm the only one who uses the computer and if I don't recognize something I stop it anyway.

On 18 Dec 2018, at 9:23, Travis Siegel wrote:

Lucky you. My windows does not play any sound when the UAC dialog appears. I don't know if previous versions of windows made such a sound, but my 8.1 and my win10 make no sound when the dialog shows up, it just blanks the screen, which I can see, because the scren goes dark, then after I press the alt-y (once or twice depending), then the screen gets light again, so that's the way I manage it. If I wait long enough, I believe it does speak the contents, but that takes so long, that by the time it starts talking, I could have been back to what I was doing already, so there's no point to wait for the speech.

On Mon, 17 Dec 2018, Gene wrote:

In Windows 7, UAC always plays a sound when it comes up.  I would think that
would be the case in
Windows 10 as well.  Even if a screen-reader doesn't read it until you do
certain things to cause it to read, if you listen for the sound when you
begin to do something such as install something that is expected to cause
UAC to come up, that would, I would think, make things easier and faster. 
If you hear the sound, you shouldn't have to do anything, whether your
screen-reader reads the dialog or not, except to issue the command alt y.  I
use NVDA on my Windows 7 machine as a portable program.  It can't read the
UAC command for technical reasons I won't go into here and don't completely
know.  But the sound plays every time.  I just answer alt y. 
 
Gene
------ Original Message -----
From: Travis Siegel
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 7:23 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Problem installing latest update

For what it's worth, I had to answer alt-y to the security dialog twice.
I don't know if it's because it didn't take the first time, or if it jut
needed two yes responses, but I suspect it's the first option, because
I've had that issue before.  I can't see much, but I can tell when the
security screen comes up, because it's dark, and the rest of my screens
are very light, so when it comes, I hit alt-y, and away it goes, but
perhaps I hit alt-y too early, so had to do it again, but that was the
only trouble I had installing NVDA 2018.4.  It was a bit slow at first,
until I closed VLC, after that, it rturned to normal response times.
Don't know if it's a result of it just being VLC, or if it was a result of
my having had that particular copy of VLC open for nearly a week on this
machine, and it was just being a resource hot at that point, but
regardless of the reason, it behaved normally after I closed it, so there
itis for what it's worth. I haven't tried reopening VLC just yet, as I'm
not ready to continue reading that particular book.

On Tue, 18 Dec 2018, Quentin Christensen wrote:

Hi Janet,
As Joseph asked, did you get the UAC dialog asking if you want to
allow
the
program to make changes to your PC?  If you aren't seeing the UAC
dialog,
or
aren't responding to it, that would generate a log like the one you
included.  See Joseph's message for a workaround.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 12:00 PM Joseph Lee
<joseph.lee22590@gmail.com>
wrote:

       Hi,

       Hmmm, did you get any User Account Control prompt at
all?
       Sometimes, attempting an install after logging out and
back in
       resolves this and should give you a chance to say
“Yes” when UAC
       screen spears.

       Cheers,

       Joseph

        

       From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On
Behalf Of
       Janet Brandly
       Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 4:55 PM
       To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
       Subject: [nvda] Problem installing latest update

 

Hello again Quentin,

 

Below is a copy of what the log viewer says.

 

Janet

 

INFO - __main__ (17:36:16.924):

Starting NVDA

INFO - core.main (17:36:17.285):

Config dir: C:\Users\Janet\AppData\Roaming\nvda

INFO - config.ConfigManager._loadConfig (17:36:17.285):

Loading config: C:\Users\Janet\AppData\Roaming\nvda\nvda.ini

INFO - core.main (17:36:17.332):

NVDA version 2018.4

INFO - core.main (17:36:17.332):

Using Windows version 10.0.17134 workstation

INFO - core.main (17:36:17.332):

Using Python version 2.7.15 (v2.7.15:ca079a3ea3, Apr 30 2018,
16:22:17) [MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)]

INFO - core.main (17:36:17.332):

Using comtypes version 1.1.3

INFO - core.main (17:36:17.332):

Using configobj version 5.1.0 with validate version 1.0.1

INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (17:36:18.848):

Loaded synthDriver oneCore

INFO - core.main (17:36:18.855):

Using wx version 4.0.3 msw (phoenix) wxWidgets 3.0.5

INFO - brailleInput.initialize (17:36:18.865):

Braille input initialized

INFO - braille.initialize (17:36:18.865):

Using liblouis version 3.7.0

INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (17:36:18.865):

Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0
cells.

WARNING - core.main (17:36:18.966):

Java Access Bridge not available

INFO - _UIAHandler.UIAHandler.MTAThreadFunc (17:36:18.996):

UIAutomation: IUIAutomation5

INFO - core.main (17:36:19.979):

NVDA initialized

ERROR - gui.installerGui.doInstall (17:40:34.710):

Failed to execute installer

Traceback (most recent call last):

  File "gui\installerGui.pyo", line 32, in doInstall

  File "config\__init__.pyo", line 209, in execElevated

  File "shellapi.pyo", line 42, in ShellExecuteEx

WindowsError: [Error 1223] The operation was canceled by the user.

ERROR - gui.installerGui.doInstall (17:40:34.759):

Installation failed: [Error 1223] The operation was canceled by the
user.

       

From: Quentin Christensen

Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 3:41 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] Problem installing latest update

 

Hi Janet,

 

We'll need a bit more information to help you.  One of the most
common
reasons is that when you run the installer, it brings up a User
Account Control (UAC) dialog.  The dialog warns that the program
wants
to make changes to your PC and you must accept it to continue. 
That's
a standard Windows warning when you install any software, but
occasionally it appears behind other windows.  If the program is
installing (the progress bar is beeping) but you haven't answered
that
dialog yet, try using ALT+TAB to find it (if it doesn't appear on
top
of everything, it often appears at the back, as in the last window
in
the list when you ALT+TAB).  If you don't respond to it within
about
20 seconds, it will close and the install will fail.

 

Kind regards

 

Quentin.

 

On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 6:42 AM Janet Brandly <jbrandly@shaw.ca>
wrote:

       Hello all, especially NVDA Support,

 

I’m having a problem with the latest update. It seemed to
download OK after I got the prompt, but it wouldn’t install. It
asked me to review the log view which I did, but it doesn’t make
any sense to me. I looked for the software in my download folder
to install it manually, but it wasn’t there. Any help with this
would be much appreciated.

 

Thank you,

 

Jan

 

 

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Re: can't get vlc media player to start

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

I'll try reinstalling it again and see what happens.

-----Original Message-----
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Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2018 6:25 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] can't get vlc media player to start

Now I had a similar issue with virtual recorder after a windows update. I
had to uninstall it and reinstall it again and it then functioned. It would
not be the first time a windows update has altered a file modified by
another program and made it non functional.
Brian

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From: "Rosemarie Chavarria" <knitqueen2007@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2018 11:08 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] can't get vlc media player to start


I'm gonna get rid of the program. I tried everything I know but nothing is
working.







From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of JM
Casey
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2018 11:12 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] can't get vlc media player to start



Hi.



How are you trying to open it?



Are your file associations set to VlC?

What happens when you open it using the search box or run dialog?

If you've tried everything and there's simply no VLC window opening, it
may
be time to re-install. There's nothing special related to starting VlC; it
should open like any other programme.





From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
<nvda@nvda.groups.io
<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: December 18, 2018 2:07 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] can't get vlc media player to start



Hi, everyone,



I just put in a movie to try to watch but I can't get vlc media player to
play now. The last time I used it was during the summer when I was
watching
a movie my sister gaveme for my birthday. How do I get this program to
start?



Thanks for your help in advance.



Rosemarie











Re: Success!

Gene
 

I'm extremely skeptical of that.  Nothing has been installed yet.  Speech occurs when installation has failed.  And as I understand it, NVDA is in memory and can work even if the files on the drive have been decoupled. 
 
I consider this extremely unlikely and I consider advising turning UAC off to be very bad advice.  UAC isn't nearly as effective as it might be because malware writers have found ways around it.  But it does help at times in preventing malware from being installed.  It is not reasonable to advise turning it off when all that is needed is to listen for the sound, then issue the command alt y.  Consider the amount of time in doing that compared with the amount of time removing an infection it might have prevented.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2018 8:31 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Success!

The problem is, Janet that you often have a catch 22 issue in this sort of
case. NVDA doing a full update has probably decoupled all the old files and
so there is no screenreader to read it, hence the noise. I know its not
advisable according to many here, but if you are careful what you install
and only you uses the machine, turn uac off completely. It will complain
about it at first but life is a lot simpler with it gone!
 Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Janet Brandly" <jbrandly@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2018 11:45 PM
Subject: [nvda] Success!


After trying again, I was able to install the update successfully. After the
update downloaded, there was another sound which I hadn’t heard before. I
hit Alt-Yon spec and I installed and restarted successfully. In the future,
it would be very helpful if this dialog would read properly.
Janet







Re: Problem installing update

Lino Morales
 

I was just thinking this last night reading this thread. Do you have your UAC level set to 0? If so you won’t hear nothing. I am the only dude who uses my PC, but I still use UAC but my level is set at the default.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Quentin Christensen <quentin@...>
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2018 7:21:12 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Problem installing update
 
That is really unusual.  You should definitely get a UAC dialog when trying to install any program.  Actually, unless you are logging in to Windows as an administrator?  But in that case, the process would already have the privileges it needs and shouldn't fail.

On Wed, Dec 19, 2018 at 10:33 AM Janet Brandly <jbrandly@...> wrote:
Hello all,
 
Thanks for your feedback so far in helping me to solve this problem. I am running Windows 10. I do not get any sound indication of the screen asking me to allow the program to make changes to my system. I get the dialog telling me to wait while the setup is being prepared. Then I hear beeping for a few minutes. During that time I alt-tab numerous times to make sure I’m not missing the screen. Pretty much immediately after the beeping stops, I get what I’d describe as a “clang” sound and a message telling me tht the installation has failed and advising me to check the log bview.
 
Hopefully this provides some further clarification.
 
Janet



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Re: Some add-ons fail to install/work under NVDA 2018.4

 

Hi,
Last I heard, the developer of Emoticons add-on is trying to make the add-on play better with NVDA 2018.4.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Clare Page
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2018 7:40 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Some add-ons fail to install/work under NVDA 2018.4

Hi!
It's true that NVDA can read a lot of emoji now without the Emoticons add-on running, but it doesn't always read the old-fashioned emoticons, made with punctuation marks and sometimes letters, with that add-on disabled: I just tested that on my Windows 7 computer. What's more, even though Windows 10 users can add emoji by accessing the appropriate panel there, the emoji panel doesn't exist in older versions of Windows, and users of Windows 7 or 8 might also want to use those old emoticons I've already mentioned. Given that Windows 10 isn't used by all NVDA users, and people may still want to read and add old-fashioned emoticons as well as more modern emoji, there are still good reasons for the Emoticons add-on for NVDA to continue to exist, in my opinion. So please don't scrap it yet!
Bye for now!
From Clare

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Sent: mercredi 19 décembre 2018 15:46
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Some add-ons fail to install/work under NVDA 2018.4

Several other things spring to mind. There has been a lot of talk that the emoticons are in the core now, so do you need the add on at all? also I'm totally confused about the state of the win 10 essentials as it seems there are now strict limits to which versions of windows 10 work with which versions of the add on.
Might it be that windows 10s version is incompatible with the add ons being used in some way?
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Clare Page" <clare.page@wanadoo.fr>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2018 1:43 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Some add-ons fail to install/work under NVDA 2018.4


Hi!

I also had the problem that the new version of the Emoticons add-on failed
to install: in my case there was an error with the installation of that
add-on’s update when I used the add-on updater to do it. But the Emoticons
add-on installed normally when I downloaded it from the website and did the
installation by opening the add-on from where it got downloaded to.

By the way, I couldn’t download NVDA 2018.4 using Check For Updates the
other day either, once again I actually had to download the ;exe file to
update NVDA, so I wonder if there is some gproblem with NVDA updates
generally, either the program itself or add-ons.

Thanks in advance for any explanation if there is one.

Bye for now!

From Clare



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kostadin
Kolev
Sent: mercredi 19 décembre 2018 13:30
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Some add-ons fail to install/work under NVDA 2018.4



Hello all,

A friend of mine has reported to me a problem with his copy of NVDA 2018.4.
Some add-ons fail to install/work under this version of NVDA. It is an
installed copy of NVDA. He sent me the log file. I can see some errors about
the "Emoticons" (v9.0 if I'm not mistaking) and "Windows 10 App Essentials"
add-ons, but I don't understand what the errors mean. I'm pasting his log
file here, in case someone can help us to solve this issue.

Thanks much in advance!

Here's the log:

INFO - _main_ (13:20:43.529):
Starting NVDA
INFO - core.main (13:20:43.802):
Config dir: C:\Users\kalin\AppData\Roaming\nvda
INFO - config.ConfigManager._loadConfig (13:20:43.802):
Loading config: C:\Users\kalin\AppData\Roaming\nvda\nvda.ini
INFO - core.main (13:20:43.921):
NVDA version 2018.4
INFO - core.main (13:20:43.921):
Using Windows version 10.0.17134 workstation
INFO - core.main (13:20:43.921):
Using Python version 2.7.15 (v2.7.15:ca079a3ea3, Apr 30 2018, 16:22:17) [MSC
v.1500 32 bit (Intel)]
INFO - core.main (13:20:43.921):
Using comtypes version 1.1.3
INFO - core.main (13:20:43.921):
Using configobj version 5.1.0 with validate version 1.0.1
ERROR - addonHandler.completePendingAddonInstalls (13:20:43.933):
Failed to complete addon installation for emoticons
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "addonHandler.pyo", line 89, in completePendingAddonInstalls
WindowsError: [Error 183] Cannot create a file when that file already exists
ERROR - addonHandler._getAvailableAddonsFromPath (13:20:43.940):
Error loading Addon from path:
C:\Users\kalin\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\emoticons
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "addonHandler.pyo", line 163, in _getAvailableAddonsFromPath
File "addonHandler.pyo", line 226, in _init_
File "addonHandler.pyo", line 561, in _init_
File "configobj\__init__.pyo", line 1199, in _init_
File "configobj\__init__.pyo", line 1292, in _load
ParseError: Invalid line
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(matched as neither section nor keyword) at line 1.
ERROR - addonHandler._getAvailableAddonsFromPath (13:20:43.944):
Error loading Addon from path:
C:\Users\kalin\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\wintenApps
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "addonHandler.pyo", line 163, in _getAvailableAddonsFromPath
File "addonHandler.pyo", line 226, in _init_
File "addonHandler.pyo", line 561, in _init_
File "configobj\__init__.pyo", line 1199, in _init_
File "configobj\__init__.pyo", line 1292, in _load
ParseError: Invalid line
(u'\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00')
(matched as neither section nor keyword) at line 1.
WARNING - stdout (13:20:44.332):
hooked waveOutOpen
WARNING - stdout (13:20:44.332):
hooked waveOutClose
INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (13:20:44.572):
Loaded synthDriver sapi5
INFO - core.main (13:20:44.855):
Using wx version 4.0.3 msw (phoenix) wxWidgets 3.0.5
INFO - brailleInput.initialize (13:20:44.855):
Braille input initialized
INFO - braille.initialize (13:20:44.861):
Using liblouis version 3.7.0
INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (13:20:44.865):
Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells.
WARNING - core.main (13:20:44.930):
Java Access Bridge not available
INFO - _UIAHandler.UIAHandler.MTAThreadFunc (13:20:44.944):
UIAutomation: IUIAutomation5
INFO - core.main (13:20:46.591):
NVDA initialized
ERROR - eventHandler.executeEvent (13:22:24.211):
error executing event: mouseMove on <NVDAObjects.IAccessible.mozilla.Mozilla
object at 0x05F4B390> with extra args of {'y': 384, 'x': 683}
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "eventHandler.pyo", line 155, in executeEvent
File "eventHandler.pyo", line 92, in _init_
File "eventHandler.pyo", line 100, in next
File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 930, in event_mouseMove
File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyo", line 152, in expand
AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'rindex'

______
Best wishes,
Kostadin Kolev


Re: Some add-ons fail to install/work under NVDA 2018.4

Clare Page <clare.page@...>
 

Hi!
It's true that NVDA can read a lot of emoji now without the Emoticons add-on running, but it doesn't always read the old-fashioned emoticons, made with punctuation marks and sometimes letters, with that add-on disabled: I just tested that on my Windows 7 computer. What's more, even though Windows 10 users can add emoji by accessing the appropriate panel there, the emoji panel doesn't exist in older versions of Windows, and users of Windows 7 or 8 might also want to use those old emoticons I've already mentioned. Given that Windows 10 isn't used by all NVDA users, and people may still want to read and add old-fashioned emoticons as well as more modern emoji, there are still good reasons for the Emoticons add-on for NVDA to continue to exist, in my opinion. So please don't scrap it yet!
Bye for now!
From Clare

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: mercredi 19 décembre 2018 15:46
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Some add-ons fail to install/work under NVDA 2018.4

Several other things spring to mind. There has been a lot of talk that the
emoticons are in the core now, so do you need the add on at all? also I'm
totally confused about the state of the win 10 essentials as it seems there
are now strict limits to which versions of windows 10 work with which
versions of the add on.
Might it be that windows 10s version is incompatible with the add ons being
used in some way?
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Clare Page" <clare.page@wanadoo.fr>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2018 1:43 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Some add-ons fail to install/work under NVDA 2018.4


Hi!

I also had the problem that the new version of the Emoticons add-on failed
to install: in my case there was an error with the installation of that
add-on’s update when I used the add-on updater to do it. But the Emoticons
add-on installed normally when I downloaded it from the website and did the
installation by opening the add-on from where it got downloaded to.

By the way, I couldn’t download NVDA 2018.4 using Check For Updates the
other day either, once again I actually had to download the ;exe file to
update NVDA, so I wonder if there is some gproblem with NVDA updates
generally, either the program itself or add-ons.

Thanks in advance for any explanation if there is one.

Bye for now!

From Clare



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kostadin
Kolev
Sent: mercredi 19 décembre 2018 13:30
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Some add-ons fail to install/work under NVDA 2018.4



Hello all,

A friend of mine has reported to me a problem with his copy of NVDA 2018.4.
Some add-ons fail to install/work under this version of NVDA. It is an
installed copy of NVDA. He sent me the log file. I can see some errors about
the "Emoticons" (v9.0 if I'm not mistaking) and "Windows 10 App Essentials"
add-ons, but I don't understand what the errors mean. I'm pasting his log
file here, in case someone can help us to solve this issue.

Thanks much in advance!

Here's the log:

INFO - _main_ (13:20:43.529):
Starting NVDA
INFO - core.main (13:20:43.802):
Config dir: C:\Users\kalin\AppData\Roaming\nvda
INFO - config.ConfigManager._loadConfig (13:20:43.802):
Loading config: C:\Users\kalin\AppData\Roaming\nvda\nvda.ini
INFO - core.main (13:20:43.921):
NVDA version 2018.4
INFO - core.main (13:20:43.921):
Using Windows version 10.0.17134 workstation
INFO - core.main (13:20:43.921):
Using Python version 2.7.15 (v2.7.15:ca079a3ea3, Apr 30 2018, 16:22:17) [MSC
v.1500 32 bit (Intel)]
INFO - core.main (13:20:43.921):
Using comtypes version 1.1.3
INFO - core.main (13:20:43.921):
Using configobj version 5.1.0 with validate version 1.0.1
ERROR - addonHandler.completePendingAddonInstalls (13:20:43.933):
Failed to complete addon installation for emoticons
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "addonHandler.pyo", line 89, in completePendingAddonInstalls
WindowsError: [Error 183] Cannot create a file when that file already exists
ERROR - addonHandler._getAvailableAddonsFromPath (13:20:43.940):
Error loading Addon from path:
C:\Users\kalin\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\emoticons
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "addonHandler.pyo", line 163, in _getAvailableAddonsFromPath
File "addonHandler.pyo", line 226, in _init_
File "addonHandler.pyo", line 561, in _init_
File "configobj\__init__.pyo", line 1199, in _init_
File "configobj\__init__.pyo", line 1292, in _load
ParseError: Invalid line
(u'\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00')
(matched as neither section nor keyword) at line 1.
ERROR - addonHandler._getAvailableAddonsFromPath (13:20:43.944):
Error loading Addon from path:
C:\Users\kalin\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\wintenApps
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "addonHandler.pyo", line 163, in _getAvailableAddonsFromPath
File "addonHandler.pyo", line 226, in _init_
File "addonHandler.pyo", line 561, in _init_
File "configobj\__init__.pyo", line 1199, in _init_
File "configobj\__init__.pyo", line 1292, in _load
ParseError: Invalid line
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(matched as neither section nor keyword) at line 1.
WARNING - stdout (13:20:44.332):
hooked waveOutOpen
WARNING - stdout (13:20:44.332):
hooked waveOutClose
INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (13:20:44.572):
Loaded synthDriver sapi5
INFO - core.main (13:20:44.855):
Using wx version 4.0.3 msw (phoenix) wxWidgets 3.0.5
INFO - brailleInput.initialize (13:20:44.855):
Braille input initialized
INFO - braille.initialize (13:20:44.861):
Using liblouis version 3.7.0
INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (13:20:44.865):
Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells.
WARNING - core.main (13:20:44.930):
Java Access Bridge not available
INFO - _UIAHandler.UIAHandler.MTAThreadFunc (13:20:44.944):
UIAutomation: IUIAutomation5
INFO - core.main (13:20:46.591):
NVDA initialized
ERROR - eventHandler.executeEvent (13:22:24.211):
error executing event: mouseMove on <NVDAObjects.IAccessible.mozilla.Mozilla
object at 0x05F4B390> with extra args of {'y': 384, 'x': 683}
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "eventHandler.pyo", line 155, in executeEvent
File "eventHandler.pyo", line 92, in _init_
File "eventHandler.pyo", line 100, in next
File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 930, in event_mouseMove
File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyo", line 152, in expand
AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'rindex'

______
Best wishes,
Kostadin Kolev


Re: Some add-ons fail to install/work under NVDA 2018.4

 

Hi,
Emoticons versus emojis: they are two different things. The Emoticons add-on comes with definitions of some popular emoticons and emojis, but they are tiny compared to what NVDA can read now in 2018.4.
Windows 10 App Essentials policy: supporting more recent Windows 10 release is by design due to introduction of Windows as a Service (keeping oneself updated from time to time). I also do require more recent Windows 10 releases for more recent add-on releases in order to reduce complexity.
The log provided has nothing to do with which release WinTenApps add-on will run on; rather, it deals with failed file deletion and rename operations.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2018 6:46 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Some add-ons fail to install/work under NVDA 2018.4

Several other things spring to mind. There has been a lot of talk that the emoticons are in the core now, so do you need the add on at all? also I'm totally confused about the state of the win 10 essentials as it seems there are now strict limits to which versions of windows 10 work with which versions of the add on.
Might it be that windows 10s version is incompatible with the add ons being used in some way?
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Clare Page" <clare.page@wanadoo.fr>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2018 1:43 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Some add-ons fail to install/work under NVDA 2018.4


Hi!

I also had the problem that the new version of the Emoticons add-on failed
to install: in my case there was an error with the installation of that
add-on’s update when I used the add-on updater to do it. But the Emoticons
add-on installed normally when I downloaded it from the website and did the
installation by opening the add-on from where it got downloaded to.

By the way, I couldn’t download NVDA 2018.4 using Check For Updates the
other day either, once again I actually had to download the ;exe file to
update NVDA, so I wonder if there is some gproblem with NVDA updates
generally, either the program itself or add-ons.

Thanks in advance for any explanation if there is one.

Bye for now!

From Clare



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kostadin
Kolev
Sent: mercredi 19 décembre 2018 13:30
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Some add-ons fail to install/work under NVDA 2018.4



Hello all,

A friend of mine has reported to me a problem with his copy of NVDA 2018.4.
Some add-ons fail to install/work under this version of NVDA. It is an
installed copy of NVDA. He sent me the log file. I can see some errors about
the "Emoticons" (v9.0 if I'm not mistaking) and "Windows 10 App Essentials"
add-ons, but I don't understand what the errors mean. I'm pasting his log
file here, in case someone can help us to solve this issue.

Thanks much in advance!

Here's the log:

INFO - _main_ (13:20:43.529):
Starting NVDA
INFO - core.main (13:20:43.802):
Config dir: C:\Users\kalin\AppData\Roaming\nvda
INFO - config.ConfigManager._loadConfig (13:20:43.802):
Loading config: C:\Users\kalin\AppData\Roaming\nvda\nvda.ini
INFO - core.main (13:20:43.921):
NVDA version 2018.4
INFO - core.main (13:20:43.921):
Using Windows version 10.0.17134 workstation
INFO - core.main (13:20:43.921):
Using Python version 2.7.15 (v2.7.15:ca079a3ea3, Apr 30 2018, 16:22:17) [MSC
v.1500 32 bit (Intel)]
INFO - core.main (13:20:43.921):
Using comtypes version 1.1.3
INFO - core.main (13:20:43.921):
Using configobj version 5.1.0 with validate version 1.0.1
ERROR - addonHandler.completePendingAddonInstalls (13:20:43.933):
Failed to complete addon installation for emoticons
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "addonHandler.pyo", line 89, in completePendingAddonInstalls
WindowsError: [Error 183] Cannot create a file when that file already exists
ERROR - addonHandler._getAvailableAddonsFromPath (13:20:43.940):
Error loading Addon from path:
C:\Users\kalin\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\emoticons
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "addonHandler.pyo", line 163, in _getAvailableAddonsFromPath
File "addonHandler.pyo", line 226, in _init_
File "addonHandler.pyo", line 561, in _init_
File "configobj\__init__.pyo", line 1199, in _init_
File "configobj\__init__.pyo", line 1292, in _load
ParseError: Invalid line
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(matched as neither section nor keyword) at line 1.
ERROR - addonHandler._getAvailableAddonsFromPath (13:20:43.944):
Error loading Addon from path:
C:\Users\kalin\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\wintenApps
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "addonHandler.pyo", line 163, in _getAvailableAddonsFromPath
File "addonHandler.pyo", line 226, in _init_
File "addonHandler.pyo", line 561, in _init_
File "configobj\__init__.pyo", line 1199, in _init_
File "configobj\__init__.pyo", line 1292, in _load
ParseError: Invalid line
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(matched as neither section nor keyword) at line 1.
WARNING - stdout (13:20:44.332):
hooked waveOutOpen
WARNING - stdout (13:20:44.332):
hooked waveOutClose
INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (13:20:44.572):
Loaded synthDriver sapi5
INFO - core.main (13:20:44.855):
Using wx version 4.0.3 msw (phoenix) wxWidgets 3.0.5
INFO - brailleInput.initialize (13:20:44.855):
Braille input initialized
INFO - braille.initialize (13:20:44.861):
Using liblouis version 3.7.0
INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (13:20:44.865):
Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells.
WARNING - core.main (13:20:44.930):
Java Access Bridge not available
INFO - _UIAHandler.UIAHandler.MTAThreadFunc (13:20:44.944):
UIAutomation: IUIAutomation5
INFO - core.main (13:20:46.591):
NVDA initialized
ERROR - eventHandler.executeEvent (13:22:24.211):
error executing event: mouseMove on <NVDAObjects.IAccessible.mozilla.Mozilla
object at 0x05F4B390> with extra args of {'y': 384, 'x': 683}
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "eventHandler.pyo", line 155, in executeEvent
File "eventHandler.pyo", line 92, in _init_
File "eventHandler.pyo", line 100, in next
File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 930, in event_mouseMove
File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyo", line 152, in expand
AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'rindex'

______
Best wishes,
Kostadin Kolev