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Re: Clock Addon doesn't save settings, nor does f12 work for time and date
Yeah, same here, went back to the dev version and that works fine, so somethings happened between the dev and stable releases
From: Gerardo CorripioSent: 21 December 2018 00:49 To: nvda@nvda.groups.ioSubject: [nvda] Clock Addon doesn't save settings, nor does f12 work for time and date Anyone of you guys have the latest Clock AddOn_ because f12 doesn’t say either the time or date, but it does report upon the 3rd press, the number of the day in the year, and how many days are left to the end of the year. Also when setting up the AddON from within NVDA menú/Preferences/Options/clock settings, when it comes time to sabe the settings, they don’t appear to sabe< when I want to reopen again NVDA menú to check the settings, I get an error that tnere’s already a Settings dialogue open< to close it first before attemtping to go back into the NVDA settings área. Any ideas what might be going on? Enviado desde Correo para Windows 10
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Re: Browse mode and focus
Hello,
You can configure it through the Settings, which can be found at the
NVDA Menu (NVDA+N).
Search for browse mode, then uncheck the boxes on automatic change
or something like that. I don't know how it should appear because
I'm not using NVDA in English, but I hope it can help you somehow.
Em 21/12/2018 05:53, Felix G. escreveu:
Hello list,
I'd like to ask how to keep focus from following the browse mode
cursor. While this behavior may often be desirable, there are many
instances in which it unnecessarily slows down the browsing experience
as NVDA needs to constantly keep track of focus events, deciding
whether or not they are related to browse mode cursor movements. With
unfortunate timing, NVDA sometimes fails to associate a browse mode
cursor action with its corresponding focus event and bounces back a
few lines or switches to forms mode because it thinks focus has
changed asynchronously on behalf of the website rather than the user.
The sighted world analogy of moving the browse mode cursor is simply
reading, which should not be associated with so many events in the
browser.
If anyone would like to try out how the other behavior, as also seen
in JAWS, would feel in terms of speed: Go to a complex website and
then navigate in browse mode, but not using the standard arrow keys
but instead the review cursor (numpad 7 and numpad 9).
All the best,
Felix
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Hello list,
I'd like to ask how to keep focus from following the browse mode
cursor. While this behavior may often be desirable, there are many
instances in which it unnecessarily slows down the browsing experience
as NVDA needs to constantly keep track of focus events, deciding
whether or not they are related to browse mode cursor movements. With
unfortunate timing, NVDA sometimes fails to associate a browse mode
cursor action with its corresponding focus event and bounces back a
few lines or switches to forms mode because it thinks focus has
changed asynchronously on behalf of the website rather than the user.
The sighted world analogy of moving the browse mode cursor is simply
reading, which should not be associated with so many events in the
browser.
If anyone would like to try out how the other behavior, as also seen
in JAWS, would feel in terms of speed: Go to a complex website and
then navigate in browse mode, but not using the standard arrow keys
but instead the review cursor (numpad 7 and numpad 9).
All the best,
Felix
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Re: Is their another way to disable all add-ons that I don't know about?
why not open your word processor of choice, copy and paste
joseph's instructions in there, and save the document, giving it a
title you'll recognize later as being what you're looking for?
that way, you won't have to remember the instructions in full. I
never remember command lines, but if someone gives me instructions
using them, I write them down for when I might need them later on.
I'm not techy by nature, but I've found a lot of information just
by reading the messages on this list and taking note of those
messages with information I might find useful someday, even if
it's not something I need right now. Needless to say, I'm very
thankful and grateful for Notepad! :)
Annette
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On 12/20/2018 9:54 PM, Lino Morales
wrote:
Sounds good, but I won’t remember that
since I don’t run command line things. I suggest a menu item
to be put into NVDA add-on updater to disable all add-ons.
What say you list?
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Hi,
Yes via the following command-line text as exactly as shown
(from Run dialog):
nvda -r --disable-addons
Cheers,
Joseph
Hi is their another way? I don’t have
NVDA set to give me the options to disable all add-ons when
I close NVDA cause I just want to hear the sound and bam its
closed. Thanks.
Sent from
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Re: I can't find where in nvda I can check for add on updates
<grin>
I had that a couple times this year.
Almost drove me to get another system, then I got saved because the seller I got the thing from was dishonest, trying to sell me a model that did not exist anymore and was years old.
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On 12/21/2018 5:12 PM, molly the blind tech lover wrote: or maybe my machine's just cursed. just joking.
On Thu, 20 Dec 2018, 10:58 pm Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@... wrote:
Hi,
I’m not sure of the original cause of this, but sounds like something
happened when installing some add-ons that caused manifest to disappear
from some reason.
Cheers,
Joseph
*From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Sarah k
Alawami
*Sent:* Thursday, December 20, 2018 7:54 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] I can't find where in nvda I can check for add on
updates
Sounds like fun. Were you and the team able to trace the cause of this so
that it does not happen toother people some how?
On 20 Dec 2018, at 19:27, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi all,
The problem was traced to incomplete add-on install – somehow, add-on
manifest is missing for some add-ons Molly installed. Fixing this will
require manually removing the affected add-ons via File Explorer and
reinstalling the affected packages.
Cheers,
Joseph
*From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *molly
the blind tech lover
*Sent:* Thursday, December 20, 2018 6:39 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] I can't find where in nvda I can check for add on
updates
Hi. Add on updater is showing up in the manage add ons dialogue. Shall I
send the log to the email address that is listed with the add on updater?
*From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Joseph
Lee
*Sent:* Thursday, December 20, 2018 9:34 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] I can't find where in nvda I can check for add on
updates
Hi,
No, don’t reinstall NvDA just yet, as I’d like to see what the log says.
Also, just to really make sure, is Add-on Updater showing up in add-ons
manager (NvDA Menu/Tools/Manage add-ons)?
Cheers,
Joseph
*From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *molly
the blind tech lover
*Sent:* Thursday, December 20, 2018 6:19 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] I can't find where in nvda I can check for add on
updates
Hi.
The add on updater is not one of the categories in the nvda settings. I
checked. I’ll try to send you the log. Just, wondering, if I perhaps
reinstalled nvda, could that possibly fix things? For whatever reason this
problem only occurs on one of my machines… the one I currently am so
annoyed at right now.
*From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Joseph
Lee
*Sent:* Thursday, December 20, 2018 9:07 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] I can't find where in nvda I can check for add on
updates
Hi Molly and others,
Okay, let’s go over one thing at a time:
Add-on Updater problem: another way to find out if the add-on is working
is:
1. Go to NvDA menu/Preferences/Settings.
2. See if Add-on Updater is one of the categories.
If Add-on Updater is one of the categories, then I’d like to know what’s
up. If not, I also would like to know what’s going on.
NVDA log: typically, when people talk about NVDA log, it refers to a text
file where NVDA records information as it runs. The fastest way to open
this “file” is pressing NVDA+F1.
Add-on issues and logs: whenever an issue with an add-on shows up, unless
if it’s an issue I know exactly what’s going on, I always ask people to
restart with add-ons disabled. Then once the problem is confirmed, I
sometimes ask people to restart with add-ons enabled and ask folks to send
the log to developers (me included). Typically, if an add-on that provides
visible user interface services (adding items to NVDA menu and its
submenus) is installed but that interface doesn’t show up (such as Add-on
Updater in your case), I always ask people to send the log to developers
for analysis. As Add-on Updater is my add-on, I’d like to request just that
– please send the entire log to me in private (press NVDA+F1, copy
everything, and paste it as an email to me privately).
About Windows Insider Program: testing new features is not really the top
reason for existence of Windows Insider Program; rather, the program is
meant to gather feedback from testers before features ship to the rest of
the world. This is the reason why Microsoft reminds people every week (or
almost every week) that Insider Preview builds are not stable, and features
can come and go without notice.
Molly, you’re not alone in stating that you became a Windows Insider
because you’re excited about trying out new goodies here and there; you’re
not the first, nor will be the last person to go through this phase (trust
me, I heard similar stories in the last four years – I became a Windows
Insider shortly after it was first announced in September 2014). But as
beta software (or rather, an operating system going through constant flux),
trying out new things has its drawbacks too, namely unstable releases from
time to time. Specifically, if you have signed up to receive at least one
build a week (fast and skip ahead rings, which I think is what you’ve
done), you’re bound to encounter issues frequently, hence you’re encouraged
to submit feedback as early as possible. If you want stability but still
want to remain a Windows Insider, I recommend either going with slow ring,
or opt into release preview ring (the former will give you builds known to
be more stable than fast ring; the latter will not upgrade you to the next
big update until it is nearly ready for the public). If you want strict
stability and can’t afford to lose productivity (in other words, feel
uncomfortable with living on the edge now), then perhaps Windows Insider
Program might not be right for you.
Cheers,
Joseph
*From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *molly
the blind tech lover
*Sent:* Thursday, December 20, 2018 5:31 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] I can't find where in nvda I can check for add on
updates
Well I joined the insider program because I wanted to check out new
windows features before they are released. It was great at first. But then
I received one unstable build after another. I even had to do a system
restore because windows failed to load properly. I’m going to opt out of
the insider program right now. I can’t deal with all these problems and
honestly, I don’t have time to test beta software. What was I thinking?
*From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Gene
*Sent:* Thursday, December 20, 2018 8:18 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] I can't find where in nvda I can check for add on
updates
Why did you decide to be in the insider program? That is asking for bugs
and problems and is intended for those who want to test unreleased versions
of Windows for problems. It is something like beta testing but I'm not
sure if the code you are testing is even considered beta yet.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
*From:* molly the blind tech lover <brainardmolly@...>
*Sent:* Thursday, December 20, 2018 6:18 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] I can't find where in nvda I can check for add on
updates
Well I’m starting to really dislike this laptop lately. Life was a lot
less complicated when it worked properly.
*From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Governor
staten
*Sent:* Thursday, December 20, 2018 7:01 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] I can't find where in nvda I can check for add on
updates
NVDA key+n, t for tools, then press a twice. You then press enter. That
will definitely do the trick.
*From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *molly
the blind tech lover
*Sent:* Thursday, December 20, 2018 5:26 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* [nvda] I can't find where in nvda I can check for add on
updates
Hey guys, Molly here again.
So I have the add on updater installed on my pc. Where do I go to check
for add on updates? Thanks.
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Re: I can't find where in nvda I can check for add on updates
Well you could always drop to release preview or slow ring if you want to stay active.
I have signed to the insider program on my ms account to read all the feeds etc but not on any system.
So you could opt out but still sign up on ms website to stay in the loop if you want.
Or subscribe to the win10 insiders group and still stay in the loop with the news dumps which is what I have done.
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On 12/21/2018 2:30 PM, molly the blind tech lover wrote: Well I joined the insider program because I wanted to check out new windows
features before they are released. It was great at first. But then I
received one unstable build after another. I even had to do a system
restore because windows failed to load properly. I'm going to opt out of the
insider program right now. I can't deal with all these problems and
honestly, I don't have time to test beta software. What was I thinking?
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 8:18 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I can't find where in nvda I can check for add on
updates
Why did you decide to be in the insider program? That is asking for bugs
and problems and is intended for those who want to test unreleased versions
of Windows for problems. It is something like beta testing but I'm not sure
if the code you are testing is even considered beta yet.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: molly the blind tech lover <mailto:brainardmolly@...>
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 6:18 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] I can't find where in nvda I can check for add on
updates
Well I'm starting to really dislike this laptop lately. Life was a lot less
complicated when it worked properly.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> <nvda@nvda.groups.io
<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Governor staten
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 7:01 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] I can't find where in nvda I can check for add on
updates
NVDA key+n, t for tools, then press a twice. You then press enter. That will
definitely do the trick.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> <nvda@nvda.groups.io
<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> > On Behalf Of molly the blind tech lover
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 5:26 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] I can't find where in nvda I can check for add on updates
Hey guys, Molly here again.
So I have the add on updater installed on my pc. Where do I go to check for
add on updates? Thanks.
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Re: I can't find where in nvda I can check for add on updates
You only do that if you have a system to test it with.
I don't do betas at least not that level as I only have one production system.
Technically I will have another later on next year but its going to be a toss up between linux either ubuntu mate or jenux and or being an insider on this slower box.
I can't do both.
And I really want a linux machine.
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On 12/21/2018 2:17 PM, Gene wrote: Why did you decide to be in the insider program? That is asking for bugs and problems and is intended for those who want to test unreleased versions of Windows for problems. It is something like beta testing but I'm not sure if the code you are testing is even considered beta yet.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: molly the blind tech lover
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 6:18 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I can't find where in nvda I can check for add on updates
Well I'm starting to really dislike this laptop lately. Life was a lot less complicated when it worked properly.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Governor staten
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 7:01 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I can't find where in nvda I can check for add on updates
NVDA key+n, t for tools, then press a twice. You then press enter. That will definitely do the trick.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of molly the blind tech lover
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 5:26 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] I can't find where in nvda I can check for add on updates
Hey guys, Molly here again.
So I have the add on updater installed on my pc. Where do I go to check for add on updates? Thanks.
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Re: I can't find where in nvda I can check for add on updates
Well you could always try to delete your nvda.ini and redo all the settings and addons clear your userconfig folder to see if it works or not.
Saying that, you are an insider, being one does mean you may have to get in situations like this.
I assume that being an insider you do have backups.
My advice would for you to reformat and reinstall a stable windows version, get the latest drivers, etc, and restore one of those backups.
If you don't have a current image, then reformat, put all your stuff back, put the latest drivers etc on there, make a backup image with something like drive xml, and go insider again.
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On 12/21/2018 1:18 PM, molly the blind tech lover wrote: Well I'm starting to really dislike this laptop lately. Life was a lot less
complicated when it worked properly.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Governor staten
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 7:01 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I can't find where in nvda I can check for add on
updates
NVDA key+n, t for tools, then press a twice. You then press enter. That will
definitely do the trick.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> <nvda@nvda.groups.io
<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> > On Behalf Of molly the blind tech lover
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 5:26 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] I can't find where in nvda I can check for add on updates
Hey guys, Molly here again.
So I have the add on updater installed on my pc. Where do I go to check for
add on updates? Thanks.
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Re: Is their another way to disable all add-ons that I don't know about?
No, you disagree. I said that it is not
unreasonable to change the setting. I mean the setting in the general
preferences section where you change the behavior now.
Gene
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 10:23 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Is their another way to disable all add-ons that
I don't know about?
I agree Gene. I think this option should be in the tools and
prefences under add-ons. Their should be a menu item their to disable all.
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It may not be enough work to worry about to add
this option, but why should a screen-reader accommodate a user in such
trifles. It really isn't unreasonable to change the setting when you want
to be able to do this.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 9:54 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Is their another way to disable all add-ons that
I don't know about?
Sounds good, but I won’t remember that since I don’t run
command line things. I suggest a menu item to be put into NVDA add-on updater to
disable all add-ons. What say you list?
Sent from Mail for Windows
10
Hi,
Yes via the following command-line text as exactly as
shown (from Run dialog):
nvda -r --disable-addons
Cheers,
Joseph
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Lino Morales
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018
7:47 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Is their
another way to disable all add-ons that I don't know
about?
Hi is their another way? I don’t have NVDA set to give me the
options to disable all add-ons when I close NVDA cause I just want to hear the
sound and bam its closed. Thanks.
Sent from Mail for Windows
10
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Re: Is their another way to disable all add-ons that I don't know about?
Lino Morales <linomorales001@...>
Sarah your not paying attention., I have that option turned off. I just want to close when I hit NVDA !=Q
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@...>
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 11:22:11 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Is their another way to disable all add-ons that I don't know about?
- Hit nvda plus q
- Choose restart with all add ons disabled and click ok.
hope that helps a bit.
On 20 Dec 2018, at 19:54, Lino Morales wrote:
Sounds good, but I won’t remember that since I don’t run command line things. I suggest a menu item to be put into NVDA add-on updater to disable all add-ons. What say you list?
Sent from
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...>
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 10:51:32 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Is their another way to disable all add-ons that I don't know about?
Hi,
Yes via the following command-line text as exactly as shown (from Run dialog):
nvda -r --disable-addons
Cheers,
Joseph
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Lino Morales
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 7:47 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Is their another way to disable all add-ons that I don't know about?
Hi is their another way? I don’t have NVDA set to give me the options to disable all add-ons when I close NVDA cause I just want to hear the sound and bam its closed. Thanks.
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Re: Is their another way to disable all add-ons that I don't know about?
Lino Morales <linomorales001@...>
I agree Gene. I think this option should be in the tools and prefences under add-ons. Their should be a menu item their to disable all.
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Gene <gsasner@...>
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 11:19:06 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Is their another way to disable all add-ons that I don't know about?
It may not be enough work to worry about to add this option, but why should a screen-reader accommodate a user in such trifles. It really isn't unreasonable to change the setting when you want to be able to do this.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 9:54 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Is their another way to disable all add-ons that I don't know about?
Sounds good, but I won’t remember that since I don’t run command line things. I suggest a menu item to be put into NVDA add-on updater to disable all add-ons. What say you list?
Sent from
Mail for Windows 10
Hi,
Yes via the following command-line text as exactly as shown (from Run dialog):
nvda -r --disable-addons
Cheers,
Joseph
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Lino Morales
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 7:47 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Is their another way to disable all add-ons that I don't know about?
Hi is their another way? I don’t have NVDA set to give me the options to disable all add-ons when I close NVDA cause I just want to hear the sound and bam its closed. Thanks.
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Re: Is their another way to disable all add-ons that I don't know about?
Sarah k Alawami
- Hit nvda plus q
- Choose restart with all add ons disabled and click ok.
hope that helps a bit.
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On 20 Dec 2018, at 19:54, Lino Morales wrote:
Sounds good, but I won’t remember that since I don’t run command line things. I suggest a menu item to be put into NVDA add-on updater to disable all add-ons. What say you list?
Sent from
Mail for Windows 10
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...>
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 10:51:32 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Is their another way to disable all add-ons that I don't know about?
Hi,
Yes via the following command-line text as exactly as shown (from Run dialog):
nvda -r --disable-addons
Cheers,
Joseph
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Lino Morales
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 7:47 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Is their another way to disable all add-ons that I don't know about?
Hi is their another way? I don’t have NVDA set to give me the options to disable all add-ons when I close NVDA cause I just want to hear the sound and bam its closed. Thanks.
Sent from
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Re: Is their another way to disable all add-ons that I don't know about?
It may not be enough work to worry about to add
this option, but why should a screen-reader accommodate a user in such
trifles. It really isn't unreasonable to change the setting when you want
to be able to do this.
Gene
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 9:54 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Is their another way to disable all add-ons that
I don't know about?
Sounds good, but I won’t remember that since I don’t run
command line things. I suggest a menu item to be put into NVDA add-on updater to
disable all add-ons. What say you list?
Sent from Mail for Windows
10
Hi,
Yes via the following command-line text as exactly as
shown (from Run dialog):
nvda -r --disable-addons
Cheers,
Joseph
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Lino Morales
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018
7:47 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Is their
another way to disable all add-ons that I don't know
about?
Hi is their another way? I don’t have NVDA set to give me the
options to disable all add-ons when I close NVDA cause I just want to hear the
sound and bam its closed. Thanks.
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Re: I can't find where in nvda I can check for add on updates
molly the blind tech lover
or maybe my machine's just cursed. just joking.
Hi, I’m not sure of the original cause of this, but sounds like something happened when installing some add-ons that caused manifest to disappear from some reason. Cheers, Joseph Sounds like fun. Were you and the team able to trace the cause of this so that it does not happen toother people some how? On 20 Dec 2018, at 19:27, Joseph Lee wrote: Hi all, The problem was traced to incomplete add-on install – somehow, add-on manifest is missing for some add-ons Molly installed. Fixing this will require manually removing the affected add-ons via File Explorer and reinstalling the affected packages. Cheers, Joseph Hi. Add on updater is showing up in the manage add ons dialogue. Shall I send the log to the email address that is listed with the add on updater? Hi, No, don’t reinstall NvDA just yet, as I’d like to see what the log says. Also, just to really make sure, is Add-on Updater showing up in add-ons manager (NvDA Menu/Tools/Manage add-ons)? Cheers, Joseph Hi. The add on updater is not one of the categories in the nvda settings. I checked. I’ll try to send you the log. Just, wondering, if I perhaps reinstalled nvda, could that possibly fix things? For whatever reason this problem only occurs on one of my machines… the one I currently am so annoyed at right now. Hi Molly and others, Okay, let’s go over one thing at a time: Add-on Updater problem: another way to find out if the add-on is working is: - Go to NvDA menu/Preferences/Settings.
- See if Add-on Updater is one of the categories.
If Add-on Updater is one of the categories, then I’d like to know what’s up. If not, I also would like to know what’s going on. NVDA log: typically, when people talk about NVDA log, it refers to a text file where NVDA records information as it runs. The fastest way to open this “file” is pressing NVDA+F1. Add-on issues and logs: whenever an issue with an add-on shows up, unless if it’s an issue I know exactly what’s going on, I always ask people to restart with add-ons disabled. Then once the problem is confirmed, I sometimes ask people to restart with add-ons enabled and ask folks to send the log to developers (me included). Typically, if an add-on that provides visible user interface services (adding items to NVDA menu and its submenus) is installed but that interface doesn’t show up (such as Add-on Updater in your case), I always ask people to send the log to developers for analysis. As Add-on Updater is my add-on, I’d like to request just that – please send the entire log to me in private (press NVDA+F1, copy everything, and paste it as an email to me privately). About Windows Insider Program: testing new features is not really the top reason for existence of Windows Insider Program; rather, the program is meant to gather feedback from testers before features ship to the rest of the world. This is the reason why Microsoft reminds people every week (or almost every week) that Insider Preview builds are not stable, and features can come and go without notice. Molly, you’re not alone in stating that you became a Windows Insider because you’re excited about trying out new goodies here and there; you’re not the first, nor will be the last person to go through this phase (trust me, I heard similar stories in the last four years – I became a Windows Insider shortly after it was first announced in September 2014). But as beta software (or rather, an operating system going through constant flux), trying out new things has its drawbacks too, namely unstable releases from time to time. Specifically, if you have signed up to receive at least one build a week (fast and skip ahead rings, which I think is what you’ve done), you’re bound to encounter issues frequently, hence you’re encouraged to submit feedback as early as possible. If you want stability but still want to remain a Windows Insider, I recommend either going with slow ring, or opt into release preview ring (the former will give you builds known to be more stable than fast ring; the latter will not upgrade you to the next big update until it is nearly ready for the public). If you want strict stability and can’t afford to lose productivity (in other words, feel uncomfortable with living on the edge now), then perhaps Windows Insider Program might not be right for you. Cheers, Joseph Well I joined the insider program because I wanted to check out new windows features before they are released. It was great at first. But then I received one unstable build after another. I even had to do a system restore because windows failed to load properly. I’m going to opt out of the insider program right now. I can’t deal with all these problems and honestly, I don’t have time to test beta software. What was I thinking? Why did you decide to be in the insider program? That is asking for bugs and problems and is intended for those who want to test unreleased versions of Windows for problems. It is something like beta testing but I'm not sure if the code you are testing is even considered beta yet. ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 6:18 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] I can't find where in nvda I can check for add on updates Well I’m starting to really dislike this laptop lately. Life was a lot less complicated when it worked properly. NVDA key+n, t for tools, then press a twice. You then press enter. That will definitely do the trick. Hey guys, Molly here again. So I have the add on updater installed on my pc. Where do I go to check for add on updates? Thanks.
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Re: I can't find where in nvda I can check for add on updates
Hi, I’m not sure of the original cause of this, but sounds like something happened when installing some add-ons that caused manifest to disappear from some reason. Cheers, Joseph
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 7:54 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] I can't find where in nvda I can check for add on updates Sounds like fun. Were you and the team able to trace the cause of this so that it does not happen toother people some how? On 20 Dec 2018, at 19:27, Joseph Lee wrote: Hi all, The problem was traced to incomplete add-on install – somehow, add-on manifest is missing for some add-ons Molly installed. Fixing this will require manually removing the affected add-ons via File Explorer and reinstalling the affected packages. Cheers, Joseph Hi. Add on updater is showing up in the manage add ons dialogue. Shall I send the log to the email address that is listed with the add on updater? Hi, No, don’t reinstall NvDA just yet, as I’d like to see what the log says. Also, just to really make sure, is Add-on Updater showing up in add-ons manager (NvDA Menu/Tools/Manage add-ons)? Cheers, Joseph Hi. The add on updater is not one of the categories in the nvda settings. I checked. I’ll try to send you the log. Just, wondering, if I perhaps reinstalled nvda, could that possibly fix things? For whatever reason this problem only occurs on one of my machines… the one I currently am so annoyed at right now. Hi Molly and others, Okay, let’s go over one thing at a time: Add-on Updater problem: another way to find out if the add-on is working is: - Go to NvDA menu/Preferences/Settings.
- See if Add-on Updater is one of the categories.
If Add-on Updater is one of the categories, then I’d like to know what’s up. If not, I also would like to know what’s going on. NVDA log: typically, when people talk about NVDA log, it refers to a text file where NVDA records information as it runs. The fastest way to open this “file” is pressing NVDA+F1. Add-on issues and logs: whenever an issue with an add-on shows up, unless if it’s an issue I know exactly what’s going on, I always ask people to restart with add-ons disabled. Then once the problem is confirmed, I sometimes ask people to restart with add-ons enabled and ask folks to send the log to developers (me included). Typically, if an add-on that provides visible user interface services (adding items to NVDA menu and its submenus) is installed but that interface doesn’t show up (such as Add-on Updater in your case), I always ask people to send the log to developers for analysis. As Add-on Updater is my add-on, I’d like to request just that – please send the entire log to me in private (press NVDA+F1, copy everything, and paste it as an email to me privately). About Windows Insider Program: testing new features is not really the top reason for existence of Windows Insider Program; rather, the program is meant to gather feedback from testers before features ship to the rest of the world. This is the reason why Microsoft reminds people every week (or almost every week) that Insider Preview builds are not stable, and features can come and go without notice. Molly, you’re not alone in stating that you became a Windows Insider because you’re excited about trying out new goodies here and there; you’re not the first, nor will be the last person to go through this phase (trust me, I heard similar stories in the last four years – I became a Windows Insider shortly after it was first announced in September 2014). But as beta software (or rather, an operating system going through constant flux), trying out new things has its drawbacks too, namely unstable releases from time to time. Specifically, if you have signed up to receive at least one build a week (fast and skip ahead rings, which I think is what you’ve done), you’re bound to encounter issues frequently, hence you’re encouraged to submit feedback as early as possible. If you want stability but still want to remain a Windows Insider, I recommend either going with slow ring, or opt into release preview ring (the former will give you builds known to be more stable than fast ring; the latter will not upgrade you to the next big update until it is nearly ready for the public). If you want strict stability and can’t afford to lose productivity (in other words, feel uncomfortable with living on the edge now), then perhaps Windows Insider Program might not be right for you. Cheers, Joseph Well I joined the insider program because I wanted to check out new windows features before they are released. It was great at first. But then I received one unstable build after another. I even had to do a system restore because windows failed to load properly. I’m going to opt out of the insider program right now. I can’t deal with all these problems and honestly, I don’t have time to test beta software. What was I thinking? Why did you decide to be in the insider program? That is asking for bugs and problems and is intended for those who want to test unreleased versions of Windows for problems. It is something like beta testing but I'm not sure if the code you are testing is even considered beta yet. ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 6:18 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] I can't find where in nvda I can check for add on updates Well I’m starting to really dislike this laptop lately. Life was a lot less complicated when it worked properly. NVDA key+n, t for tools, then press a twice. You then press enter. That will definitely do the trick. Hey guys, Molly here again. So I have the add on updater installed on my pc. Where do I go to check for add on updates? Thanks.
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Re: Is their another way to disable all add-ons that I don't know about?
Hi, Adding that option to Add-on Updater… I’m thinking not. Cheers, Joseph
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Lino Morales Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 7:54 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Is their another way to disable all add-ons that I don't know about? Sounds good, but I won’t remember that since I don’t run command line things. I suggest a menu item to be put into NVDA add-on updater to disable all add-ons. What say you list? Sent from Mail for Windows 10
Hi,
Yes via the following command-line text as exactly as shown (from Run dialog): nvda -r --disable-addons Cheers, Joseph Hi is their another way? I don’t have NVDA set to give me the options to disable all add-ons when I close NVDA cause I just want to hear the sound and bam its closed. Thanks. Sent from Mail for Windows 10
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Re: Is their another way to disable all add-ons that I don't know about?
If what you're asking for is a way to have NVDA restarted without
add-ons enabled, then try this:
- Windows+R
- Type "nvda --disable-addons" (without the quotes)
- Spell the command above character by character so you won't
miss any part of it.
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Hi is their another way? I don�t have NVDA
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Re: Is their another way to disable all add-ons that I don't know about?
Lino Morales <linomorales001@...>
Sounds good, but I won’t remember that since I don’t run command line things. I suggest a menu item to be put into NVDA add-on updater to disable all add-ons. What say you list?
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Mail for Windows 10
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...>
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 10:51:32 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Is their another way to disable all add-ons that I don't know about?
Hi,
Yes via the following command-line text as exactly as shown (from Run dialog):
nvda -r --disable-addons
Cheers,
Joseph
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Lino Morales
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 7:47 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Is their another way to disable all add-ons that I don't know about?
Hi is their another way? I don’t have NVDA set to give me the options to disable all add-ons when I close NVDA cause I just want to hear the sound and bam its closed. Thanks.
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Re: I can't find where in nvda I can check for add on updates
Sarah k Alawami
Sounds like fun. Were you and the team able to trace the cause of this so that it does not happen toother people some how?
toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
On 20 Dec 2018, at 19:27, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi all, The problem was traced to incomplete add-on install – somehow, add-on manifest is missing for some add-ons Molly installed. Fixing this will require manually removing the affected add-ons via File Explorer and reinstalling the affected packages. Cheers, Joseph From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of molly the blind tech lover
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 6:39 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I can't find where in nvda I can check for add on updates Hi. Add on updater is showing up in the manage add ons dialogue. Shall I send the log to the email address that is listed with the add on updater? Hi, No, don’t reinstall NvDA just yet, as I’d like to see what the log says. Also, just to really make sure, is Add-on Updater showing up in add-ons manager (NvDA Menu/Tools/Manage add-ons)? Cheers, Joseph Hi. The add on updater is not one of the categories in the nvda settings. I checked. I’ll try to send you the log. Just, wondering, if I perhaps reinstalled nvda, could that possibly fix things? For whatever reason this problem only occurs on one of my machines… the one I currently am so annoyed at right now. Hi Molly and others, Okay, let’s go over one thing at a time: Add-on Updater problem: another way to find out if the add-on is working is: - Go to NvDA menu/Preferences/Settings.
- See if Add-on Updater is one of the categories.
If Add-on Updater is one of the categories, then I’d like to know what’s up. If not, I also would like to know what’s going on. NVDA log: typically, when people talk about NVDA log, it refers to a text file where NVDA records information as it runs. The fastest way to open this “file” is pressing NVDA+F1. Add-on issues and logs: whenever an issue with an add-on shows up, unless if it’s an issue I know exactly what’s going on, I always ask people to restart with add-ons disabled. Then once the problem is confirmed, I sometimes ask people to restart with add-ons enabled and ask folks to send the log to developers (me included). Typically, if an add-on that provides visible user interface services (adding items to NVDA menu and its submenus) is installed but that interface doesn’t show up (such as Add-on Updater in your case), I always ask people to send the log to developers for analysis. As Add-on Updater is my add-on, I’d like to request just that – please send the entire log to me in private (press NVDA+F1, copy everything, and paste it as an email to me privately). About Windows Insider Program: testing new features is not really the top reason for existence of Windows Insider Program; rather, the program is meant to gather feedback from testers before features ship to the rest of the world. This is the reason why Microsoft reminds people every week (or almost every week) that Insider Preview builds are not stable, and features can come and go without notice. Molly, you’re not alone in stating that you became a Windows Insider because you’re excited about trying out new goodies here and there; you’re not the first, nor will be the last person to go through this phase (trust me, I heard similar stories in the last four years – I became a Windows Insider shortly after it was first announced in September 2014). But as beta software (or rather, an operating system going through constant flux), trying out new things has its drawbacks too, namely unstable releases from time to time. Specifically, if you have signed up to receive at least one build a week (fast and skip ahead rings, which I think is what you’ve done), you’re bound to encounter issues frequently, hence you’re encouraged to submit feedback as early as possible. If you want stability but still want to remain a Windows Insider, I recommend either going with slow ring, or opt into release preview ring (the former will give you builds known to be more stable than fast ring; the latter will not upgrade you to the next big update until it is nearly ready for the public). If you want strict stability and can’t afford to lose productivity (in other words, feel uncomfortable with living on the edge now), then perhaps Windows Insider Program might not be right for you. Cheers, Joseph Well I joined the insider program because I wanted to check out new windows features before they are released. It was great at first. But then I received one unstable build after another. I even had to do a system restore because windows failed to load properly. I’m going to opt out of the insider program right now. I can’t deal with all these problems and honestly, I don’t have time to test beta software. What was I thinking? Why did you decide to be in the insider program? That is asking for bugs and problems and is intended for those who want to test unreleased versions of Windows for problems. It is something like beta testing but I'm not sure if the code you are testing is even considered beta yet. ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 6:18 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] I can't find where in nvda I can check for add on updates Well I’m starting to really dislike this laptop lately. Life was a lot less complicated when it worked properly. NVDA key+n, t for tools, then press a twice. You then press enter. That will definitely do the trick. Hey guys, Molly here again. So I have the add on updater installed on my pc. Where do I go to check for add on updates? Thanks.
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Re: Is their another way to disable all add-ons that I don't know about?
Hi,
Yes via the following command-line text as exactly as shown (from Run dialog): nvda -r --disable-addons Cheers, Joseph
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Lino Morales Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 7:47 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] Is their another way to disable all add-ons that I don't know about? Hi is their another way? I don’t have NVDA set to give me the options to disable all add-ons when I close NVDA cause I just want to hear the sound and bam its closed. Thanks. Sent from Mail for Windows 10
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