The subject pretty much says it all. One of the most interesting
features of NVDA from this sighted guy's perspective is mouse tracking,
which announces what's under the mouse pointer, used in conjunction with
the NVDA left and right click keystrokes (or the actual left and right
click buttons on a mouse or mousepad).

By moving the mouse around the screen you get an experience that strikes
me as far more like what someone who can see gets when they're scanning
a webpage quickly to see if there's anything that interests them. Of
course, it takes some getting used to, and you'll probably have to do
some adjustments on mouse behavior (speed and distance of movement,
coasting, and others) to get mouse movement that's comfortable for you.

I'm just curious as to who may be using this method to cruise around the
screen, and for any program, not just web browsers, and what your
experience was like learning how to use this feature and these methods.
I realize that there are certain applications and contexts where this
would be way more trouble than it's worth, too, and opinions on where
it's worth using and not would be interesting.

My gut tells me that it will be a small cadre that uses this feature
set, but I'm trying to decide whether it's something worth trying to
teach up front or not. There's nothing like asking those who do use it,
or have tried to use it, as a functional navigation alternative to help
shape my thoughts on this.

Brian

----- Original Message -----

From: Brian Vogel

To: nvda@groups.io

Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2016 4:14 PM

Subject: [nvda] Re: Firefox is driving me crazy!

Ollie,

           This is a pure SWAG on my part, but I've encountered so many bizarre problems caused by cache corruption that the first thing I'd recommend is that you clear all browser cache in Firefox.  If you use CCleaner it will work (and a bit faster) or you can follow the instructions on the Firefox Clear Cache page.

           Try that and see if it resolves the problem.  If it doesn't at least we can eliminate cache corruption as the root cause.

Brian

Hello Brian,

I use a mouse from time to time. I have been using an Optacon since 1977
(I still use it daily, especially for multilanguage book reading), so
using a physical mouse isn't all that complicated for me.
Being used to exploring physical, printed pages, certainly represents a
significant advantage in mouse use.

My main difficulty is dealing with the boundaries of the mouse pad...

Ciao,
Ollie




Il 09/03/2016 16:15, Brian Vogel ha scritto:

The subject pretty much says it all. One of the most interesting
features of NVDA from this sighted guy's perspective is mouse
tracking, which announces what's under the mouse pointer, used in
conjunction with the NVDA left and right click keystrokes (or the
actual left and right click buttons on a mouse or mousepad).

By moving the mouse around the screen you get an experience that
strikes me as far more like what someone who can see gets when they're
scanning a webpage quickly to see if there's anything that interests
them. Of course, it takes some getting used to, and you'll probably
have to do some adjustments on mouse behavior (speed and distance of
movement, coasting, and others) to get mouse movement that's
comfortable for you.

I'm just curious as to who may be using this method to cruise around
the screen, and for any program, not just web browsers, and what your
experience was like learning how to use this feature and these
methods. I realize that there are certain applications and contexts
where this would be way more trouble than it's worth, too, and
opinions on where it's worth using and not would be interesting.

My gut tells me that it will be a small cadre that uses this feature
set, but I'm trying to decide whether it's something worth trying to
teach up front or not. There's nothing like asking those who do use
it, or have tried to use it, as a functional navigation alternative to
help shape my thoughts on this.

Brian

Hello list,
For a week or so now, Firefox is driving me crazy.

When I click on a link on a webpage, for some reason I end up clicking
on something different from the one I had under my fingers on my braille
display or that is read by the synth.

Today I even upgraded to Firefox 45.0 to see whether the problem could
be solved, but no... Still the same.

I'm using the latest Next snapshot of NVDA, but the same thing happens
with an older version of NVDA (2015.2), so I think it might be something
in Firefox.

Has anyone experienced someghing similar?

Ciao,
Ollie

Ollie,

Glad it worked for you and you're happy with the result. I'm sure a document of that size took several hours to process. I think the largest I've ever done is a bit over 400 pages, and most are significantly smaller than that. When you get into large PDF files, even OCR-ed ones, you pretty much have to be able to word search them to make finding that "needle in a haystack" a reasonable task.

I still can't explain why CTRL+SHIFT+C is not working for you without using pass-through as it works just fine for me when I'm using NVDA 2016.1 and PDF-XChange Viewer together to do an OCR that way.

I have suggested that others contact Tracker regarding accessibility issues. While I can and do use screen readers as part of testing things out, and can say what works or doesn't work for "routine stuff," there's nothing like a skilled screen reader user who has to do "the deep stuff" to uncover, and even to explain, accessibility issues I will never encounter.

Brian

The subject pretty much says it all. One of the most interesting features of NVDA from this sighted guy's perspective is mouse tracking, which announces what's under the mouse pointer, used in conjunction with the NVDA left and right click keystrokes (or the actual left and right click buttons on a mouse or mousepad).

By moving the mouse around the screen you get an experience that strikes me as far more like what someone who can see gets when they're scanning a webpage quickly to see if there's anything that interests them. Of course, it takes some getting used to, and you'll probably have to do some adjustments on mouse behavior (speed and distance of movement, coasting, and others) to get mouse movement that's comfortable for you.

I'm just curious as to who may be using this method to cruise around the screen, and for any program, not just web browsers, and what your experience was like learning how to use this feature and these methods. I realize that there are certain applications and contexts where this would be way more trouble than it's worth, too, and opinions on where it's worth using and not would be interesting.

My gut tells me that it will be a small cadre that uses this feature set, but I'm trying to decide whether it's something worth trying to teach up front or not. There's nothing like asking those who do use it, or have tried to use it, as a functional navigation alternative to help shape my thoughts on this.

Brian

Hi, Joseph and all,

I was able to convert Brandon's tutorial about gmail to an mp3 file. If
anybody wants it, please let me know and I'll put it on sendspace.

Rosemarie

I'm wondering what the issue is. I installed it and it works. It sees
you have an accessibility tool running and it works. Should be all
there is to it. Someone please correct me if I'm srong.




On 3/8/2016 12:12 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:

I couldn't get it to work.



On 3/8/2016 8:40 AM, Josh Kennedy wrote:

hi
i installed libreoffice 5.1 went into options and checked and
unchecked and rechecked the accesibility checkbox. i am happy to
report libreoffice 5.1 and later work great with NVDA I can even get
font info with capslock f. nearly everything seems to be accessible.
spell check is also accessible. if you want a free office suite
working well with NVDA I recommend libreoffice. libreoffice calc
also work very well.