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Re: OT: Refresh firefox might have solved NVDA-lock-up issue

Jacob Kruger
 

Ok, seems if install webvisum extension - either version directly off webvisum.com - after using advanced settings to enable unsigned extension add-on installation, or the signed version, then firefox starts overloading/locking up NVDA again.

So, for now, while it's installed, it's disabled, and issue seems to have gone away for now as well, but, yes, while not end of the world for me, this also means navigational sound pack is also not operating/playing sounds.

Stay well

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, acceptance is versatile"

----- Original Message -----
From: "Lino Morales" <linomorales001@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: 09 June, 2016 10:43 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] OT: Refresh firefox might have solved NVDA-lock-up issue


Dude! WTH! I don't understand why Navagitional Sounds extention isn't working. I just downloaded V 47 of FF yesterday and said extention works along with Dr. James Sholes patch of Webvisum.


On 6/9/2016 4:31 PM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
Thats always a good choice when its needed.
Sadly it looks like version 47 has introduced a few issues, navigational sounds does not work, mozilla has depricated some libraries.
Here's the thing, the brouser has actually got faster.
I have noticed that stuff that would take a few seconds more to load seems to have gotten well faster.
reportedly we are supposed to se vp8 codec and html5 full support in this version and while flash if its installed can and will be used where html5 exists it will be prefured over flash so things are going up.
I have not as of today downloaded anything though I did last night.
I am currently trying to get through today's data stream which is not to much before I need to get out of the country on my vacation so I am only interested in really making sure everything is done as I will not be using the net at all whilst away and I want to be up to date as I can before I leave.



On 10/06/2016 6:36 a.m., Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hi Jacob,


I also used this refresh Firefox link to get rid of some sort of hijack
page that used to come up on the Free Football Radio page. That is to
say that for some reason, on that page and that page only, when I tried
accessing it, I got a weird semi-hijack page that wanted me to sign up
for some sort of service. I can't remember what or even what the page
was--as this was almost a year ago. My antivirus and anti malware
programs showed clean.


I went to the Firefox support page and for the heck of it, I clicked on
that refresh Firefox page and it worked like a charm. I have no such
issues and it's been almost a year on that and any other pages. I
recommend that approach for anyone having any issues with Firefox--even
before you try an uninstall and reinstall of the program.



On 6/9/2016 10:49 AM, Jacob Kruger wrote:
While I know this isn't directly related to NVDA itself, among other
things I was considering trying to roll back from latest v.46 of
firefox, to a prior version of firefox, back to something like
late-30's version number, just to see if that would help, but, came
across the following page, which, if you load it in firefox itself,
offers a form of utility link to refresh firefox to default settings,
uninstall all extensions, etc. etc.:
https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/refresh-firefox-reset-add-ons-and-settings


Now, I let that thing do it's thing, and while no more
extensions/add-ons, like webvisum and f123 are now installed, all my
bookmarks, etc. were still available, but, did have to do things like
reset my home/startup page, etc.

However, main thing is, while have just been testing/trying this out
for roundabout 10 minutes now, playing around with youTube, facebook
mobile, and various google searches, etc., it does seem to have,
possibly, stopped firefox from overloading/overclocking this windows
10 64-bit operating system instance, and also hasn't, thus far, made
NVDA go all silent, etc.

In other words, just posting this here, in case any other guys want to
give it a try, and, if it carries on cooperating for a while, then I
will try something like reinstalling the webvisum extension first,
since it's worked for me over a few years now, etc., and will
definitely keep track of any other extensions that get installed, to
just try keep track of if/when it reverts back to a form of
go-slow...<smile>

Stay well

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, acceptance is versatile"



Re: espeak n g no good it sneezes on some words

Sharni-Lee Ward
 

... How can anyone understand what's being read or enjoy what they're
reading at such outrageous speeds? I've never changed NVDA from its
default rate with espeak. And how can you even tell there's fluttering
if the synth is yammering on so fast you can barely make out the words?
I just tested it and I can't make out what's being said at all. If I
didn't know the contents of the dialogue, I'd be lost.

On 9/06/2016 9:12 PM, Pete wrote:

hi

I all ways used the default nvda max english voice, I am
disappointed in the changes made to espeak in nvda I think starting
with nvda 2015 or may be as far back as 2014. Were the changes made
to espeak by nvda devel or the creator of espeak. I would like a
choice in nvda setup to be able to pick witch espeak to install. I
feal the need for speed quite freequently and to have that fluttering
sound in there when the check box for rate boost is checked so I can
get up to a 600 to 800 words per min is disruptive. I am still trying
to get used to it.

Pete

On 6/8/2016 1:43 PM, nasrin khaksar wrote:
hi.
i use iven3 which is the best voice and also with default rate of nvda
which is 30!
its very perfect for me.

On 6/7/16, Shaun Everiss <sm.everiss@...> wrote:
I have replaced the data from old espeak over and the syntth works a
lot
better one person had trouble however, espeak at least the word stuff
works as I expect it so I am not to worried.



On 8/06/2016 3:31 a.m., Pete wrote:
as the s line says espeak n g makes a buzzing or sneezing sound
along
with some words.
NOT COOL AT ALL
along with the funny noises the voice flutters
This is default espeakng max voice set to en...
windows 7 x64 pro clean install
nvda installed using default settings except for speed set to 100
percent
Can I replace the espeak n g with the older one by copying the
old one
over the new one in the program files x86 \ nvda folder?
Thanks for any help!
Pete




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Re: two different questions:

mohammad suliman
 

Hello,
Regarding first question:   I am not aware of differences in terms of accessibility between different version. Latest one should work fine for you.
All the best





On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 9:20 PM +0300, "Andre Fisher" <andrefisher729@...> wrote:

No screen reader announces if the message is read or unread in basic
HTML view. Switch to standard view to get that functionality.

On 6/9/16, nasrin khaksar  wrote:
> hello every one.
> irst, whats the most accessible version of notepad plus plus?
> and second, how can i realized that did i read a specific email or not?
> because i use basic html view in gmail and in this mode, nvda does not
> announce is this email read or unread?
> i appreciate your help, thanks so much and god bless you.
>
> --
> Those who follow the Messenger-Prophet, the Ummi, whom they find
> written down with them in the Taurat and the Injeel [who] enjoins them
> good and forbids them evil, and makes lawful to them the good things
> and makes unlawful to them impure things, and removes from them their
> burden and the shackles which were upon them; so [as for] those who
> believe in him and honor him and help him, and follow the light which
> has been sent down with him, these it is that are the successful.
> holy quran, chapter 7, verse 157.
> best website for studying islamic book in different languages
> al-islam.org
>
> 
>
>




Re: Intro

Jenine Stanley
 

No, sorry, not that Jeanine. Scary to know there might be 2 of us.
Jenine Stanley
dragonwalker64@...

On Jun 9, 2016, at 8:24 PM, Jim Smith <jimsmithfl@...> wrote:

Is this Janine Stanley from Beecher city Illinois this is Jimmy Dick Smith I hope this is the right one hello my Janine Janine you still got a trombone

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 9, 2016, at 1:04 PM, Jenine Stanley <dragonwalker64@...> wrote:

Just to introduce myself here. I have been using NVDA for about 18 months or so now and generally love the program.

I am having one issue though with focus mode that I will detail in a separate message.
Jenine Stanley
dragonwalker64@...







Re: Intro

Bob J
 

Wow! I guess ?smart? phones don't have punctuation symbols! For shame!

Bob

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Smith" <jimsmithfl@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2016 8:24 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Intro


Is this Janine Stanley from Beecher city Illinois this is Jimmy Dick Smith I hope this is the right one hello my Janine Janine you still got a trombone

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 9, 2016, at 1:04 PM, Jenine Stanley <dragonwalker64@...> wrote:

Just to introduce myself here. I have been using NVDA for about 18 months or so now and generally love the program.

I am having one issue though with focus mode that I will detail in a separate message.
Jenine Stanley
dragonwalker64@...








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Re: Intro

Jim Smith
 

Is this Janine Stanley from Beecher city Illinois this is Jimmy Dick Smith I hope this is the right one hello my Janine Janine you still got a trombone

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 9, 2016, at 1:04 PM, Jenine Stanley <dragonwalker64@...> wrote:

Just to introduce myself here. I have been using NVDA for about 18 months or so now and generally love the program.

I am having one issue though with focus mode that I will detail in a separate message.
Jenine Stanley
dragonwalker64@...






Vocalizer expressive

Chris Shook <chris0309@...>
 

Rui,
I have a question. CodeFactory has a british english Voice named Oliver. Any chance of that coming with the new update from Tiflotecnia?
Thanks
Chris


Re: Issue with focus mode in 2016.2

Jenine Stanley
 

I can certainly check this. Not sure what good it will do but if it could help, I’ll take a look at my error log tomorrow.

2016.1 was fine, no such issues.
Jenine Stanley
dragonwalker64@...

On Jun 9, 2016, at 5:58 PM, Ethan <ethan8768@...> wrote:

Jenine:

I have reported this issue before with a NVDA log attached with no
solution to the NVDA list. This focus mode problem happens for me as
well with NVDA 2016.2 at work. The only solution I have is to install
NVDA 2015.3 onto your computer. Ever since 2015.4 for me it seems to
not work. NVDA 2016.2 works fine on my computer at home.

Check your NVDA error log and see if any of these lines are present
when you load a webpage: (I have NVDA set on debug logging level)
<virtualBuffers.gecko_ia2.Gecko_ia2 object at 0x059FAFD0>
ERROR - virtualBuffers.Gecko_ia2._loadBuffer
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "virtualBuffers\__init__.pyo", line 369, in _loadBuffer
WindowsError: [Error 1702] The binding handle is invalid

Thank you,

Ethan

On 6/9/16, Jenine Stanley <dragonwalker64@...> wrote:
Thanks Jacob,

I just tried this, toggling control-F6 and though it did exactly what it was
supposed to do in terms of moving me between the search bar and the web page
contents, it did nothing to effect focus mode with NVDA.

I’ll try anything though so never fear.
Jenine Stanley
dragonwalker64@...



On Jun 9, 2016, at 3:33 PM, Jacob Kruger <jacob@...> wrote:

Try one other one thing, just in case - in both IE, and firefox, ctrl + F6
might toggle focus between address bar, and webpage contents.

As in, try hitting alt + D to focus on address bar again, and then ctrl +
F6 to, possibly, jump to/focus on the webpage itself.

But, this might not solve the problem at all, but, is just a keystroke
combination I have used for a while with multiple screen readers to, at
times, make sure it is focused on webpage contents.

STay well

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, acceptance is versatile"

----- Original Message ----- From: "Jenine Stanley"
<dragonwalker64@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: 09 June, 2016 8:55 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Issue with focus mode in 2016.2


Thanks Joseph,

I’m glad I’m not alone. I ahve seen some improvement when tabbing around
some web sites but unfortunately, not many. If the site has a lot of
places that would trigger focus mode, it doesn’t tend to work.

I’m all ears for any ways to deal with this as I’m effectively shut out of
browsing, reading or tasks for my job, on the Windows machine anyway.
Jenine Stanley
dragonwalker64@...



On Jun 9, 2016, at 2:44 PM, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...>
wrote:

Hi,
We have reports of this happening to users (you are not alone). Sounds
like somehow browse mode routine (specifically, the behind the scenes
routine of browse mode) is failing somehow. When this happens, try
tabbing around (I found that it works for some websites where it'll take
a long time for NVDA to render browse mode).
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Jenine Stanley
Sent: Thursday, June 9, 2016 10:24 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Issue with focus mode in 2016.2

Apologies in advance for the length of this post. I downloaded the latest
version of NVDA the day it came out and began to notice right away that I
was having a problem with focus mode when opening web pages.

My sistem is as follows:

Windows 7 latest updates
Web browsers: Internet Explorer 11 and Firefox

All of my other programs have no issues with NVDA.

Here’s what happens when I open a web page.

Nothing is announced until I alt-tab away from the page. then the title
of the page is announced but the word “document” is after the title of
the web page.

Focus mode appears to be on.

Here’s what I’ve done.

1. toggled Focus Mode with NVDA-space. with no effect and no speech or
sound with each toggle 2. Hit escape several times with no speech, audio
or change.
3. Made sure the numlock key was off, toggled it on and off again. This
function spoke but had no effect on Focus Mode.
4. Left the web page and tried focus mode in another app, Outlook 2007,
worked as normal.
5. Tried both browsers, same result, Focus Mode locked.
6. Updated Windows7, IE and Firefox. Restarted computer, no change.
7. downloaded and stalled a new version of NVDA over the old one.
Restarted computer, no change.
8. Removed NVDA and reinstalled the version I’d downloaded, all mentioned
versions are current btw. No change.
9. I even tried Window-Eyes to see if it was my computer. No, Window-Eyes
worked fine on both browsers.

I then looked at the settings for browsers but didn’t understand several
of them. I tried toggling them on/off and testing web pages but no
change.

Any idea what’s going on here?

Thanks for any advice you can give.
Jenine Stanley
dragonwalker64@...



















Re: Where can I find sample voices for Ocapella

Chris Shook <chris0309@...>
 

You want to see something really wird?
Someone pick any english voice besides the united states voices and type the word, 'wince.'
Chris


Re: Where can I find sample voices for Ocapella

Rui Fontes
 

Hello!

You can test the voices for 15 days.

The price is 84 pounds or 90 euros...

Rui


-----Mensagem Original-----
De: Lino Morales
Data: quinta-feira, 9 de junho de 2016 21:05
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: [nvda] Where can I find sample voices for Ocapella

Subject says it all. How much is the NVDA add-on for said voices? Thanks.


Re: Questions about a cappella TTS

Rui Fontes
 

I think Computer Room Services in UK sells it and allow payment through
credit card.
See http://www.comproom.co.uk/?product=acapela-tts-voices-for-nvda

If you can pay through wire transfer, Tiflotecnia can sell it to you...

Regards,

Rui Fontes
Tiflotecnia, Lda.



-----Mensagem Original-----
De: Tony James
Data: quinta-feira, 9 de junho de 2016 21:23
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: [nvda] Questions about a cappella TTS

Hi, I have downloaded the trial version of this TTS and have set my
preferences just so. NVDA does not seem to save my settings however upon
shutdown i.e. TTS goes back to Michael from Microsoft and my key echo
settings are changed to default. Does this have to do with the fact that I
didn't pay for the Tts yet? Is there a way to pay for this TTS without
going through PayPal? Thx

From the rising of the sun, to the setting, to its rising again, we place
what is hard to endure with what is sweet to remember, and find peace.
(Animorphs 33)


Re: Where can I find sample voices for Ocapella

Rui Fontes
 

What Colibri voice have you used?

Rui Fontes
Tiflotecnia, Lda.



-----Mensagem Original-----
De: Greg Wocher
Data: quinta-feira, 9 de junho de 2016 22:41
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: Re: [nvda] Where can I find sample voices for Ocapella

Hello,

I purchased the lower quality version not to far back. I found a big
issue with this synth. When moving thru words character by character
Acapela will not read the vowels. It reads them just fine when either
doing a say all or reading by word but not when reading character by
character. I just wanted to make others aware of this when looking at
this synth. I did not purchase the higher quality so I am not sure if
that version has the same issue or not.


Regards,

Greg Wocher

On 6/9/2016 4:05 PM, Lino Morales wrote:
Subject says it all. How much is the NVDA add-on for said voices? Thanks.




Re: Issue with focus mode in 2016.2

Ethan
 

Jenine:

I have reported this issue before with a NVDA log attached with no
solution to the NVDA list. This focus mode problem happens for me as
well with NVDA 2016.2 at work. The only solution I have is to install
NVDA 2015.3 onto your computer. Ever since 2015.4 for me it seems to
not work. NVDA 2016.2 works fine on my computer at home.

Check your NVDA error log and see if any of these lines are present
when you load a webpage: (I have NVDA set on debug logging level)
<virtualBuffers.gecko_ia2.Gecko_ia2 object at 0x059FAFD0>
ERROR - virtualBuffers.Gecko_ia2._loadBuffer
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "virtualBuffers\__init__.pyo", line 369, in _loadBuffer
WindowsError: [Error 1702] The binding handle is invalid

Thank you,

Ethan

On 6/9/16, Jenine Stanley <dragonwalker64@...> wrote:
Thanks Jacob,

I just tried this, toggling control-F6 and though it did exactly what it was
supposed to do in terms of moving me between the search bar and the web page
contents, it did nothing to effect focus mode with NVDA.

I’ll try anything though so never fear.
Jenine Stanley
dragonwalker64@...



On Jun 9, 2016, at 3:33 PM, Jacob Kruger <jacob@...> wrote:

Try one other one thing, just in case - in both IE, and firefox, ctrl + F6
might toggle focus between address bar, and webpage contents.

As in, try hitting alt + D to focus on address bar again, and then ctrl +
F6 to, possibly, jump to/focus on the webpage itself.

But, this might not solve the problem at all, but, is just a keystroke
combination I have used for a while with multiple screen readers to, at
times, make sure it is focused on webpage contents.

STay well

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, acceptance is versatile"

----- Original Message ----- From: "Jenine Stanley"
<dragonwalker64@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: 09 June, 2016 8:55 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Issue with focus mode in 2016.2


Thanks Joseph,

I’m glad I’m not alone. I ahve seen some improvement when tabbing around
some web sites but unfortunately, not many. If the site has a lot of
places that would trigger focus mode, it doesn’t tend to work.

I’m all ears for any ways to deal with this as I’m effectively shut out of
browsing, reading or tasks for my job, on the Windows machine anyway.
Jenine Stanley
dragonwalker64@...



On Jun 9, 2016, at 2:44 PM, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...>
wrote:

Hi,
We have reports of this happening to users (you are not alone). Sounds
like somehow browse mode routine (specifically, the behind the scenes
routine of browse mode) is failing somehow. When this happens, try
tabbing around (I found that it works for some websites where it'll take
a long time for NVDA to render browse mode).
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Jenine Stanley
Sent: Thursday, June 9, 2016 10:24 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Issue with focus mode in 2016.2

Apologies in advance for the length of this post. I downloaded the latest
version of NVDA the day it came out and began to notice right away that I
was having a problem with focus mode when opening web pages.

My sistem is as follows:

Windows 7 latest updates
Web browsers: Internet Explorer 11 and Firefox

All of my other programs have no issues with NVDA.

Here’s what happens when I open a web page.

Nothing is announced until I alt-tab away from the page. then the title
of the page is announced but the word “document” is after the title of
the web page.

Focus mode appears to be on.

Here’s what I’ve done.

1. toggled Focus Mode with NVDA-space. with no effect and no speech or
sound with each toggle 2. Hit escape several times with no speech, audio
or change.
3. Made sure the numlock key was off, toggled it on and off again. This
function spoke but had no effect on Focus Mode.
4. Left the web page and tried focus mode in another app, Outlook 2007,
worked as normal.
5. Tried both browsers, same result, Focus Mode locked.
6. Updated Windows7, IE and Firefox. Restarted computer, no change.
7. downloaded and stalled a new version of NVDA over the old one.
Restarted computer, no change.
8. Removed NVDA and reinstalled the version I’d downloaded, all mentioned
versions are current btw. No change.
9. I even tried Window-Eyes to see if it was my computer. No, Window-Eyes
worked fine on both browsers.

I then looked at the settings for browsers but didn’t understand several
of them. I tried toggling them on/off and testing web pages but no
change.

Any idea what’s going on here?

Thanks for any advice you can give.
Jenine Stanley
dragonwalker64@...


















Re: Google's Gear Icon

Gene
 

The gear icon has been used for the tools menu in lots of places for years.  I believe you will find it in Internet Explorer probably going back to version 5.x and probably below.  I don't know if it particularly matters to designers if that makes much sense and I don't know if it does visually.  I would think a tools icon should be a tiny representation of some tools or of a tool chest but a gear is not a tool. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2016 5:47 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Google's Gear Icon

I agree! I much prefer text descriptions.

But as you know, almost everyone, e.g. Apple, Google, Microsoft really, really love the graphical user interface.

The gear symbol has become a cross platform annoyance for some of us, but many people look for it to adjust settings for Safari, Google, photography sites, chess sites...whatever.

I suppose gears are used to adjust many mechanical things like watches, etc, so the symbolism carried over to iconism.

Just my half-asleep thoughts.

Gary

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian's Mail list account
Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2016 5:03 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Google's Gear Icon

So then, why don't google simply label it as settings button drop down or
something more obvious than at present.
 Brian

bglists@...
Sent via blueyonder.
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in the display name field.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary Bowers" <gdbowers@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2016 3:41 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Google's Gear Icon


Thanks, Brian. That really was a helpful reply and I appreciate it.

Gary

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian
Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2016 9:02 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Google's Gear Icon

Gary,

          The answer to this depends on which Google pages you're talking
about.  On pages such as Gmail's page and the Google Calendar, where the
button is presented "wide" and there is a dropdown arrow next to the gear I
can consistently find it by doing an NVDA search using "settings" as my
search criterion.  NVDA throws focus on to the button, announcing, "Menu
Button collapsed, submenu settings."  If one then hits Enter the dropdown
menu appears and you can arrow up or down through it.

          On other Google pages, e.g., Drive, where it does not appear as a
stand alone button but as a button on a toolbar I get myself into Browse
mode and either use B or SHIFT+B to traverse buttons until I land on the
settings button in the toolbar, which is announced, "Toolbar Settings Menu
Button collapsed submenu."  Again if you hit enter the settings menu itself
will open.   There's got to be a better way than this but I've not practiced
enough with the touch cursor features yet, which might prove helpful here.
There aren't that many buttons on most of these pages so resorting to a
brute force search traversal is not an all day affair.

--
Brian

I worry a lot. . . I worry that no matter how cynical you become it's never
enough to keep up.

         ~ Trudy, in Jane Wagner's "Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in
the Universe"


















Re: Where can I find sample voices for Ocapella

Greg Wocher
 

Hello,

I purchased the lower quality version not to far back. I found a big issue with this synth. When moving thru words character by character Acapela will not read the vowels. It reads them just fine when either doing a say all or reading by word but not when reading character by character. I just wanted to make others aware of this when looking at this synth. I did not purchase the higher quality so I am not sure if that version has the same issue or not.


Regards,

Greg Wocher

On 6/9/2016 4:05 PM, Lino Morales wrote:
Subject says it all. How much is the NVDA add-on for said voices? Thanks.



Re: Setting up NVDA for Braille

John J. Boyer
 

I'm still trying to get NVDA set up for Braille. Here are the
instuctions I gave my sighted assistant.

Here are the instructions I received for setting up NVDA for Braille.
Download the Freedom Scientific drivers using the link in the User's
Guide. In the NVDA menus go to preferenced, Braille, and pick Pac Mate.
Click ok.

He apparently downloaded the Freedom Scientific drivers and then tried
to reinstall NVDA. Now he says it won't respond. I have no access to the
Windows machine, so i don't know what is wrong.

We tried to install Jaws, but it hangs about halfway through. I
contacted Freedom Scientific. They had him try various download paths
last Thurday, but they haven't been in touch with us this Thursday.
Their customer support is lousy since they were acquired.

John

On Wed, Jun 08, 2016 at 12:04:22PM +1000, Michelle's Home Emails wrote:> Hi John


Michelle Stevens here,

I forgot to ask in my previous message, do you know how to get to the Braille display options in NVDA?

To put in your Braille display choices is in preferences Braille and you will see freedom scientific Packmate in the list. Select this and click OK.

Kind wishes
Michelle

Sent from my iPhone

On 8 Jun 2016, at 11:33 AM, John J. Boyer <john.boyer@...> wrote:

We have downloaded nVDA and the drivers for the Freedom Scientific
Braille displays. I have a Pac Mate display. NVDA seems to be working
fine. However, I am deaf-blind and cannot use speech. Please tell me
what choice my sighted assistant should pick on the Braille menu.

Thanks,
John

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Location: Madison, Wisconsin USA
Mission: To develop softwares and provide STEM services for people with
disabilities which are available at no cost.


Re: nvda and other screen readers

Pete <emac00@...>
 

hi

jaws 16 and we 9.some thing.

like I said earlier I used to install jaws first then we.

Pete

On 6/9/2016 4:44 PM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
Well it doesn't matter now.
In the beginning there were screen readers, and they were chained together.
If 1 was installed it was good.
If more than 1 was installed then you needed to do something with the registry and gdichain.ini to make the chain to the video card where the last thing on the chain loaded the videocard and itself.
And that was fun, load in the wrong order, uninstall in the wrong order and or start 2 together and you died the horrible death to be fixed by a good helthy reformat in the rear of your back!
Then along came dcm and that was fine then along came mirror drivers and that to was fine.
Now uia intergrates everything so it really doesn't matter unless you have an old version and then it won't work anyway.
Sadly thats only been round with the nt non dos bassed oses as with winme-98-95 all versions it didn't matter.
But thats the way with trying to secure hardware and things no direct access, the system does that but you need to find the right port and the right plugs and it gets complex.
I used to have everything setup then I would flux it up and it was so darn easy to do that and while I may get one back getting 2 was out of the question.
I needed someone at support to make the chain as it was anyway.
And that was for dolphin and jaws.
So every so often I'd fail at computing and it was another reformat.
Now if I need 2 running I can and often do when some stuff on nvda does not read the other one hal will do that, but it may not read what nvda reads so yeah it works.



On 10/06/2016 6:56 a.m., erik burggraaf wrote:
Hi, The order shouldn't matter at this point. I always heard you should install JFW first, then WE, but WE was my primary screen reader before NVDA and Thus I always installed WE first. I would install a jaws demo if I needed one and it never impacted the performance of window-eyes. NVDA plays nice with everything and so the order really doesn't have that much to do with anything anymore.

Hope this helps,

Erik Burggraaf


On Jun 9, 2016, at 11:28 AM, Pete <emac00@...> wrote:


hi
I need to install jaws and window eyes.
My question is wich should I install first?
I have latest nvda installed.
I usually installed jaws after nvda and then window eyes last.
Pete





Re: OT: Refresh firefox might have solved NVDA-lock-up issue

 

Hmmm what did you do to get it working.
maybe I will refresh again and see.

On 10/06/2016 8:43 a.m., Lino Morales wrote:
Dude! WTH! I don't understand why Navagitional Sounds extention isn't
working. I just downloaded V 47 of FF yesterday and said extention works
along with Dr. James Sholes patch of Webvisum.


On 6/9/2016 4:31 PM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
Thats always a good choice when its needed.
Sadly it looks like version 47 has introduced a few issues,
navigational sounds does not work, mozilla has depricated some libraries.
Here's the thing, the brouser has actually got faster.
I have noticed that stuff that would take a few seconds more to load
seems to have gotten well faster.
reportedly we are supposed to se vp8 codec and html5 full support in
this version and while flash if its installed can and will be used
where html5 exists it will be prefured over flash so things are going up.
I have not as of today downloaded anything though I did last night.
I am currently trying to get through today's data stream which is not
to much before I need to get out of the country on my vacation so I am
only interested in really making sure everything is done as I will not
be using the net at all whilst away and I want to be up to date as I
can before I leave.



On 10/06/2016 6:36 a.m., Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hi Jacob,


I also used this refresh Firefox link to get rid of some sort of hijack
page that used to come up on the Free Football Radio page. That is to
say that for some reason, on that page and that page only, when I tried
accessing it, I got a weird semi-hijack page that wanted me to sign up
for some sort of service. I can't remember what or even what the page
was--as this was almost a year ago. My antivirus and anti malware
programs showed clean.


I went to the Firefox support page and for the heck of it, I clicked on
that refresh Firefox page and it worked like a charm. I have no such
issues and it's been almost a year on that and any other pages. I
recommend that approach for anyone having any issues with Firefox--even
before you try an uninstall and reinstall of the program.



On 6/9/2016 10:49 AM, Jacob Kruger wrote:
While I know this isn't directly related to NVDA itself, among other
things I was considering trying to roll back from latest v.46 of
firefox, to a prior version of firefox, back to something like
late-30's version number, just to see if that would help, but, came
across the following page, which, if you load it in firefox itself,
offers a form of utility link to refresh firefox to default settings,
uninstall all extensions, etc. etc.:
https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/refresh-firefox-reset-add-ons-and-settings



Now, I let that thing do it's thing, and while no more
extensions/add-ons, like webvisum and f123 are now installed, all my
bookmarks, etc. were still available, but, did have to do things like
reset my home/startup page, etc.

However, main thing is, while have just been testing/trying this out
for roundabout 10 minutes now, playing around with youTube, facebook
mobile, and various google searches, etc., it does seem to have,
possibly, stopped firefox from overloading/overclocking this windows
10 64-bit operating system instance, and also hasn't, thus far, made
NVDA go all silent, etc.

In other words, just posting this here, in case any other guys want to
give it a try, and, if it carries on cooperating for a while, then I
will try something like reinstalling the webvisum extension first,
since it's worked for me over a few years now, etc., and will
definitely keep track of any other extensions that get installed, to
just try keep track of if/when it reverts back to a form of
go-slow...<smile>

Stay well

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, acceptance is versatile"




Re: nvda and other screen readers

 

Well it doesn't matter now.
In the beginning there were screen readers, and they were chained together.
If 1 was installed it was good.
If more than 1 was installed then you needed to do something with the registry and gdichain.ini to make the chain to the video card where the last thing on the chain loaded the videocard and itself.
And that was fun, load in the wrong order, uninstall in the wrong order and or start 2 together and you died the horrible death to be fixed by a good helthy reformat in the rear of your back!
Then along came dcm and that was fine then along came mirror drivers and that to was fine.
Now uia intergrates everything so it really doesn't matter unless you have an old version and then it won't work anyway.
Sadly thats only been round with the nt non dos bassed oses as with winme-98-95 all versions it didn't matter.
But thats the way with trying to secure hardware and things no direct access, the system does that but you need to find the right port and the right plugs and it gets complex.
I used to have everything setup then I would flux it up and it was so darn easy to do that and while I may get one back getting 2 was out of the question.
I needed someone at support to make the chain as it was anyway.
And that was for dolphin and jaws.
So every so often I'd fail at computing and it was another reformat.
Now if I need 2 running I can and often do when some stuff on nvda does not read the other one hal will do that, but it may not read what nvda reads so yeah it works.

On 10/06/2016 6:56 a.m., erik burggraaf wrote:
Hi, The order shouldn't matter at this point. I always heard you should install JFW first, then WE, but WE was my primary screen reader before NVDA and Thus I always installed WE first. I would install a jaws demo if I needed one and it never impacted the performance of window-eyes. NVDA plays nice with everything and so the order really doesn't have that much to do with anything anymore.

Hope this helps,

Erik Burggraaf


On Jun 9, 2016, at 11:28 AM, Pete <emac00@...> wrote:


hi
I need to install jaws and window eyes.
My question is wich should I install first?
I have latest nvda installed.
I usually installed jaws after nvda and then window eyes last.
Pete




Re: OT: Refresh firefox might have solved NVDA-lock-up issue

Lino Morales <linomorales001@...>
 

Dude! WTH! I don't understand why Navagitional Sounds extention isn't working. I just downloaded V 47 of FF yesterday and said extention works along with Dr. James Sholes patch of Webvisum.

On 6/9/2016 4:31 PM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
Thats always a good choice when its needed.
Sadly it looks like version 47 has introduced a few issues, navigational sounds does not work, mozilla has depricated some libraries.
Here's the thing, the brouser has actually got faster.
I have noticed that stuff that would take a few seconds more to load seems to have gotten well faster.
reportedly we are supposed to se vp8 codec and html5 full support in this version and while flash if its installed can and will be used where html5 exists it will be prefured over flash so things are going up.
I have not as of today downloaded anything though I did last night.
I am currently trying to get through today's data stream which is not to much before I need to get out of the country on my vacation so I am only interested in really making sure everything is done as I will not be using the net at all whilst away and I want to be up to date as I can before I leave.



On 10/06/2016 6:36 a.m., Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hi Jacob,


I also used this refresh Firefox link to get rid of some sort of hijack
page that used to come up on the Free Football Radio page. That is to
say that for some reason, on that page and that page only, when I tried
accessing it, I got a weird semi-hijack page that wanted me to sign up
for some sort of service. I can't remember what or even what the page
was--as this was almost a year ago. My antivirus and anti malware
programs showed clean.


I went to the Firefox support page and for the heck of it, I clicked on
that refresh Firefox page and it worked like a charm. I have no such
issues and it's been almost a year on that and any other pages. I
recommend that approach for anyone having any issues with Firefox--even
before you try an uninstall and reinstall of the program.



On 6/9/2016 10:49 AM, Jacob Kruger wrote:
While I know this isn't directly related to NVDA itself, among other
things I was considering trying to roll back from latest v.46 of
firefox, to a prior version of firefox, back to something like
late-30's version number, just to see if that would help, but, came
across the following page, which, if you load it in firefox itself,
offers a form of utility link to refresh firefox to default settings,
uninstall all extensions, etc. etc.:
https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/refresh-firefox-reset-add-ons-and-settings


Now, I let that thing do it's thing, and while no more
extensions/add-ons, like webvisum and f123 are now installed, all my
bookmarks, etc. were still available, but, did have to do things like
reset my home/startup page, etc.

However, main thing is, while have just been testing/trying this out
for roundabout 10 minutes now, playing around with youTube, facebook
mobile, and various google searches, etc., it does seem to have,
possibly, stopped firefox from overloading/overclocking this windows
10 64-bit operating system instance, and also hasn't, thus far, made
NVDA go all silent, etc.

In other words, just posting this here, in case any other guys want to
give it a try, and, if it carries on cooperating for a while, then I
will try something like reinstalling the webvisum extension first,
since it's worked for me over a few years now, etc., and will
definitely keep track of any other extensions that get installed, to
just try keep track of if/when it reverts back to a form of
go-slow...<smile>

Stay well

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, acceptance is versatile"