Re: OT: Refresh firefox might have solved NVDA-lock-up issue
Jacob Kruger
Ok, seems if install webvisum extension - either version directly off webvisum.com - after using advanced settings to enable unsigned extension add-on installation, or the signed version, then firefox starts overloading/locking up NVDA again.
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So, for now, while it's installed, it's disabled, and issue seems to have gone away for now as well, but, yes, while not end of the world for me, this also means navigational sound pack is also not operating/playing sounds. Stay well Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA "Resistance is futile, acceptance is versatile"
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From: "Lino Morales" <linomorales001@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: 09 June, 2016 10:43 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] OT: Refresh firefox might have solved NVDA-lock-up issue Dude! WTH! I don't understand why Navagitional Sounds extention isn't working. I just downloaded V 47 of FF yesterday and said extention works along with Dr. James Sholes patch of Webvisum.
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Re: espeak n g no good it sneezes on some words
Sharni-Lee Ward
... How can anyone understand what's being read or enjoy what they're
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reading at such outrageous speeds? I've never changed NVDA from its default rate with espeak. And how can you even tell there's fluttering if the synth is yammering on so fast you can barely make out the words? I just tested it and I can't make out what's being said at all. If I didn't know the contents of the dialogue, I'd be lost.
On 9/06/2016 9:12 PM, Pete wrote:
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Re: two different questions:
mohammad suliman
Hello, Regarding first question: I am not aware of differences in terms of accessibility between different version. Latest one should work fine for you.
On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 9:20 PM +0300, "Andre Fisher" <andrefisher729@...> wrote:
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Re: Intro
Jenine Stanley
No, sorry, not that Jeanine. Scary to know there might be 2 of us.
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Jenine Stanley dragonwalker64@...
On Jun 9, 2016, at 8:24 PM, Jim Smith <jimsmithfl@...> wrote:
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Re: Intro
Bob J
Wow! I guess ?smart? phones don't have punctuation symbols! For shame!
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Bob
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From: "Jim Smith" <jimsmithfl@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2016 8:24 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] Intro Is this Janine Stanley from Beecher city Illinois this is Jimmy Dick Smith I hope this is the right one hello my Janine Janine you still got a trombone Sent from my iPhone On Jun 9, 2016, at 1:04 PM, Jenine Stanley <dragonwalker64@...> wrote: --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
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Re: Intro
Jim Smith
Is this Janine Stanley from Beecher city Illinois this is Jimmy Dick Smith I hope this is the right one hello my Janine Janine you still got a trombone
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Sent from my iPhone
On Jun 9, 2016, at 1:04 PM, Jenine Stanley <dragonwalker64@...> wrote:
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Vocalizer expressive
Chris Shook <chris0309@...>
Rui,
I have a question. CodeFactory has a british english Voice named Oliver. Any chance of that coming with the new update from Tiflotecnia? Thanks Chris
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Re: Issue with focus mode in 2016.2
Jenine Stanley
I can certainly check this. Not sure what good it will do but if it could help, I’ll take a look at my error log tomorrow.
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2016.1 was fine, no such issues. Jenine Stanley dragonwalker64@...
On Jun 9, 2016, at 5:58 PM, Ethan <ethan8768@...> wrote:
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Re: Where can I find sample voices for Ocapella
Chris Shook <chris0309@...>
You want to see something really wird?
Someone pick any english voice besides the united states voices and type the word, 'wince.' Chris
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Re: Where can I find sample voices for Ocapella
Rui Fontes
Hello!
You can test the voices for 15 days. The price is 84 pounds or 90 euros... Rui -----Mensagem Original----- De: Lino Morales Data: quinta-feira, 9 de junho de 2016 21:05 Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io Assunto: [nvda] Where can I find sample voices for Ocapella Subject says it all. How much is the NVDA add-on for said voices? Thanks.
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Re: Questions about a cappella TTS
Rui Fontes
I think Computer Room Services in UK sells it and allow payment through
credit card. See http://www.comproom.co.uk/?product=acapela-tts-voices-for-nvda If you can pay through wire transfer, Tiflotecnia can sell it to you... Regards, Rui Fontes Tiflotecnia, Lda. -----Mensagem Original----- De: Tony James Data: quinta-feira, 9 de junho de 2016 21:23 Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io Assunto: [nvda] Questions about a cappella TTS Hi, I have downloaded the trial version of this TTS and have set my preferences just so. NVDA does not seem to save my settings however upon shutdown i.e. TTS goes back to Michael from Microsoft and my key echo settings are changed to default. Does this have to do with the fact that I didn't pay for the Tts yet? Is there a way to pay for this TTS without going through PayPal? Thx From the rising of the sun, to the setting, to its rising again, we place what is hard to endure with what is sweet to remember, and find peace. (Animorphs 33)
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Re: Where can I find sample voices for Ocapella
Rui Fontes
What Colibri voice have you used?
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Rui Fontes Tiflotecnia, Lda. -----Mensagem Original----- De: Greg Wocher Data: quinta-feira, 9 de junho de 2016 22:41 Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io Assunto: Re: [nvda] Where can I find sample voices for Ocapella Hello, I purchased the lower quality version not to far back. I found a big issue with this synth. When moving thru words character by character Acapela will not read the vowels. It reads them just fine when either doing a say all or reading by word but not when reading character by character. I just wanted to make others aware of this when looking at this synth. I did not purchase the higher quality so I am not sure if that version has the same issue or not. Regards, Greg Wocher
On 6/9/2016 4:05 PM, Lino Morales wrote:
Subject says it all. How much is the NVDA add-on for said voices? Thanks.
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Re: Issue with focus mode in 2016.2
Ethan
Jenine:
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I have reported this issue before with a NVDA log attached with no solution to the NVDA list. This focus mode problem happens for me as well with NVDA 2016.2 at work. The only solution I have is to install NVDA 2015.3 onto your computer. Ever since 2015.4 for me it seems to not work. NVDA 2016.2 works fine on my computer at home. Check your NVDA error log and see if any of these lines are present when you load a webpage: (I have NVDA set on debug logging level) <virtualBuffers.gecko_ia2.Gecko_ia2 object at 0x059FAFD0> ERROR - virtualBuffers.Gecko_ia2._loadBuffer Traceback (most recent call last): File "virtualBuffers\__init__.pyo", line 369, in _loadBuffer WindowsError: [Error 1702] The binding handle is invalid Thank you, Ethan
On 6/9/16, Jenine Stanley <dragonwalker64@...> wrote:
Thanks Jacob,
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Re: Google's Gear Icon
Gene
The gear icon has been used for the tools menu in
lots of places for years. I believe you will find it in Internet Explorer
probably going back to version 5.x and probably below. I don't know if it
particularly matters to designers if that makes much sense and I don't know if
it does visually. I would think a tools icon should be a tiny
representation of some tools or of a tool chest but a gear is not a tool.
Gene
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But as you know, almost everyone, e.g. Apple, Google, Microsoft really, really love the graphical user interface. The gear symbol has become a cross platform annoyance for some of us, but many people look for it to adjust settings for Safari, Google, photography sites, chess sites...whatever. I suppose gears are used to adjust many mechanical things like watches, etc, so the symbolism carried over to iconism. Just my half-asleep thoughts. Gary -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian's Mail list account Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2016 5:03 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Google's Gear Icon So then, why don't google simply label it as settings button drop down or something more obvious than at present. Brian bglists@... Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary Bowers" <gdbowers@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2016 3:41 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] Google's Gear Icon Thanks, Brian. That really was a helpful reply and I appreciate it. Gary -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2016 9:02 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Google's Gear Icon Gary, The answer to this depends on which Google pages you're talking about. On pages such as Gmail's page and the Google Calendar, where the button is presented "wide" and there is a dropdown arrow next to the gear I can consistently find it by doing an NVDA search using "settings" as my search criterion. NVDA throws focus on to the button, announcing, "Menu Button collapsed, submenu settings." If one then hits Enter the dropdown menu appears and you can arrow up or down through it. On other Google pages, e.g., Drive, where it does not appear as a stand alone button but as a button on a toolbar I get myself into Browse mode and either use B or SHIFT+B to traverse buttons until I land on the settings button in the toolbar, which is announced, "Toolbar Settings Menu Button collapsed submenu." Again if you hit enter the settings menu itself will open. There's got to be a better way than this but I've not practiced enough with the touch cursor features yet, which might prove helpful here. There aren't that many buttons on most of these pages so resorting to a brute force search traversal is not an all day affair. -- Brian I worry a lot. . . I worry that no matter how cynical you become it's never enough to keep up. ~ Trudy, in Jane Wagner's "Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe"
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Re: Where can I find sample voices for Ocapella
Greg Wocher
Hello,
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I purchased the lower quality version not to far back. I found a big issue with this synth. When moving thru words character by character Acapela will not read the vowels. It reads them just fine when either doing a say all or reading by word but not when reading character by character. I just wanted to make others aware of this when looking at this synth. I did not purchase the higher quality so I am not sure if that version has the same issue or not. Regards, Greg Wocher
On 6/9/2016 4:05 PM, Lino Morales wrote:
Subject says it all. How much is the NVDA add-on for said voices? Thanks.
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Re: Setting up NVDA for Braille
John J. Boyer
I'm still trying to get NVDA set up for Braille. Here are the
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instuctions I gave my sighted assistant. Here are the instructions I received for setting up NVDA for Braille. Download the Freedom Scientific drivers using the link in the User's Guide. In the NVDA menus go to preferenced, Braille, and pick Pac Mate. Click ok. He apparently downloaded the Freedom Scientific drivers and then tried to reinstall NVDA. Now he says it won't respond. I have no access to the Windows machine, so i don't know what is wrong. We tried to install Jaws, but it hangs about halfway through. I contacted Freedom Scientific. They had him try various download paths last Thurday, but they haven't been in touch with us this Thursday. Their customer support is lousy since they were acquired. John On Wed, Jun 08, 2016 at 12:04:22PM +1000, Michelle's Home Emails wrote:> Hi John
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Re: nvda and other screen readers
Pete <emac00@...>
hi
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jaws 16 and we 9.some thing. like I said earlier I used to install jaws first then we. Pete
On 6/9/2016 4:44 PM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
Well it doesn't matter now.
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Re: OT: Refresh firefox might have solved NVDA-lock-up issue
Hmmm what did you do to get it working.
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maybe I will refresh again and see.
On 10/06/2016 8:43 a.m., Lino Morales wrote:
Dude! WTH! I don't understand why Navagitional Sounds extention isn't
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Re: nvda and other screen readers
Well it doesn't matter now.
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In the beginning there were screen readers, and they were chained together. If 1 was installed it was good. If more than 1 was installed then you needed to do something with the registry and gdichain.ini to make the chain to the video card where the last thing on the chain loaded the videocard and itself. And that was fun, load in the wrong order, uninstall in the wrong order and or start 2 together and you died the horrible death to be fixed by a good helthy reformat in the rear of your back! Then along came dcm and that was fine then along came mirror drivers and that to was fine. Now uia intergrates everything so it really doesn't matter unless you have an old version and then it won't work anyway. Sadly thats only been round with the nt non dos bassed oses as with winme-98-95 all versions it didn't matter. But thats the way with trying to secure hardware and things no direct access, the system does that but you need to find the right port and the right plugs and it gets complex. I used to have everything setup then I would flux it up and it was so darn easy to do that and while I may get one back getting 2 was out of the question. I needed someone at support to make the chain as it was anyway. And that was for dolphin and jaws. So every so often I'd fail at computing and it was another reformat. Now if I need 2 running I can and often do when some stuff on nvda does not read the other one hal will do that, but it may not read what nvda reads so yeah it works.
On 10/06/2016 6:56 a.m., erik burggraaf wrote:
Hi, The order shouldn't matter at this point. I always heard you should install JFW first, then WE, but WE was my primary screen reader before NVDA and Thus I always installed WE first. I would install a jaws demo if I needed one and it never impacted the performance of window-eyes. NVDA plays nice with everything and so the order really doesn't have that much to do with anything anymore.
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Re: OT: Refresh firefox might have solved NVDA-lock-up issue
Lino Morales <linomorales001@...>
Dude! WTH! I don't understand why Navagitional Sounds extention isn't working. I just downloaded V 47 of FF yesterday and said extention works along with Dr. James Sholes patch of Webvisum.
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On 6/9/2016 4:31 PM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
Thats always a good choice when its needed.
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