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Re: espeak n g no good it sneezes on some words

Pete <emac00@...>
 

Hi

Your settings and your reasoning is perfectly fine. You will get no argument from me.

Try setting the rate to 19 or 20 and check the rate boost box. You should be able to hear what wrecks my enjoyment of speed reading. There is an extra sound there kind of like a squeal or like a hammer hitting a saw, a wavering sound. I hear it when going from 99% to 100% with no rate boost checked and again I can hear it when going from 18% to 19% with the rate boost box checked.

Also, btw the espeak player does the same thing, I thought it was fixed but I didn't find out until I checked the rate boost box. I have a sapi 4 version of eloquence with window eyes, but can't stand some of the ways it says abriviations or what it thinks are abriviations. I like espeak because it has a thin voice. I don't like eloquence and vocalizer and others because they have a fat lumpy sounding voice. I like a moderate bit of inflection but find more and more inflection slows down the perception of the spoken word. I don't want to have to think about what the synthesizer is saying. I know, I know, a matter of preference, may be my hearing is wacked or some thing. It's kind of like the booming base some cars have. I like base I don't like fat lumpy base. I prefere range over loudness. Like most add-on sub woofers only go as low as 45 heirtz, who needs that? Most good quality speakers go down to 45 heirtz. I like to hear the low A 0 and the highest A notes equally. I am just pickey that way.

Pete

On 6/10/2016 3:40 AM, Sharni-Lee Ward wrote:
The reason I have it at default speed is it sounds as close to natural
as a synth can. That's also why I have inflection set to 100. I can't
bear synths without an inflection setting because I've been rather
spoiled by espeak. I tried Vocaliser two years ago and just couldn't
take it because however humanlike the voices sounded, they were also
more robotic-sounding to me than espeak with max inflection. Two of the
voices I used were also a bit on the slow side, but adjusting rate
didn't help matters.


I honestly can't stand hearing screen-readers going faster than my
settings in tutorials. I understand time constraints but that wouldn't
make me ramp up the speed.
On 10/06/2016 5:00 PM, Pete wrote:
hi

I have been using screen readers since 95 in windows except for an
old apple 2 e in the late 80s with textalker.


I do slow down first thing in the morning, uncheck the rate boost
and set speed to 100 % .

To me nvda set to 30 % sounds like if you set yours to 0 % or slower.

I am just used to it fast.

Pete



On 6/9/2016 11:14 PM, Sharni-Lee Ward wrote:
... How can anyone understand what's being read or enjoy what they're
reading at such outrageous speeds? I've never changed NVDA from its
default rate with espeak. And how can you even tell there's fluttering
if the synth is yammering on so fast you can barely make out the words?
I just tested it and I can't make out what's being said at all. If I
didn't know the contents of the dialogue, I'd be lost.


On 9/06/2016 9:12 PM, Pete wrote:
hi

I all ways used the default nvda max english voice, I am
disappointed in the changes made to espeak in nvda I think starting
with nvda 2015 or may be as far back as 2014. Were the changes made
to espeak by nvda devel or the creator of espeak. I would like a
choice in nvda setup to be able to pick witch espeak to install. I
feal the need for speed quite freequently and to have that fluttering
sound in there when the check box for rate boost is checked so I can
get up to a 600 to 800 words per min is disruptive. I am still trying
to get used to it.

Pete

On 6/8/2016 1:43 PM, nasrin khaksar wrote:
hi.
i use iven3 which is the best voice and also with default rate of nvda
which is 30!
its very perfect for me.

On 6/7/16, Shaun Everiss <sm.everiss@gmail.com> wrote:
I have replaced the data from old espeak over and the syntth works a
lot
better one person had trouble however, espeak at least the word stuff
works as I expect it so I am not to worried.



On 8/06/2016 3:31 a.m., Pete wrote:
as the s line says espeak n g makes a buzzing or sneezing sound
along
with some words.
NOT COOL AT ALL
along with the funny noises the voice flutters
This is default espeakng max voice set to en...
windows 7 x64 pro clean install
nvda installed using default settings except for speed set to
100
percent
Can I replace the espeak n g with the older one by copying the
old one
over the new one in the program files x86 \ nvda folder?
Thanks for any help!
Pete




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Re: espeak n g no good it sneezes on some words

Peter Beasley
 

That is because espeak is rubbish.

-----Original Message-----
From: Sharni-Lee Ward
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2016 4:14 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] espeak n g no good it sneezes on some words

... How can anyone understand what's being read or enjoy what they're
reading at such outrageous speeds? I've never changed NVDA from its
default rate with espeak. And how can you even tell there's fluttering
if the synth is yammering on so fast you can barely make out the words?
I just tested it and I can't make out what's being said at all. If I
didn't know the contents of the dialogue, I'd be lost.


On 9/06/2016 9:12 PM, Pete wrote:

hi

I all ways used the default nvda max english voice, I am
disappointed in the changes made to espeak in nvda I think starting
with nvda 2015 or may be as far back as 2014. Were the changes made
to espeak by nvda devel or the creator of espeak. I would like a
choice in nvda setup to be able to pick witch espeak to install. I
feal the need for speed quite freequently and to have that fluttering
sound in there when the check box for rate boost is checked so I can
get up to a 600 to 800 words per min is disruptive. I am still trying
to get used to it.

Pete

On 6/8/2016 1:43 PM, nasrin khaksar wrote:
hi.
i use iven3 which is the best voice and also with default rate of nvda
which is 30!
its very perfect for me.

On 6/7/16, Shaun Everiss <sm.everiss@gmail.com> wrote:
I have replaced the data from old espeak over and the syntth works a
lot
better one person had trouble however, espeak at least the word stuff
works as I expect it so I am not to worried.



On 8/06/2016 3:31 a.m., Pete wrote:
as the s line says espeak n g makes a buzzing or sneezing sound
along
with some words.
NOT COOL AT ALL
along with the funny noises the voice flutters
This is default espeakng max voice set to en...
windows 7 x64 pro clean install
nvda installed using default settings except for speed set to 100
percent
Can I replace the espeak n g with the older one by copying the
old one
over the new one in the program files x86 \ nvda folder?
Thanks for any help!
Pete




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Re: Important: NVDA 2016.2.1 is out, fixing crashes when working with Microsoft Word, sacrificing grammar error announcement #NVAccess

Quentin Christensen
 

Sorry I was saying the issue would manifest if you had NVDA set to
report spelling errors and grammar errors, which was the default
setting in NVDA.

Hopefully we can get to the bottom of the issues and get grammar
reporting back in for 2016.3.

Kind regards

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On 10 June 2016 at 19:14, Quentin Christensen
<quentin.christensen@gmail.com> wrote:
The issue would manifest if you had NVDA set to

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On 10 June 2016 at 18:24, Brian's Mail list account
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So how does the grammar bit work into this then?

I never use it in any case as their idea of grammar and mine are poles
apart.

Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2016 9:09 AM
Subject: [nvda] Important: NVDA 2016.2.1 is out, fixing crashes when working
with Microsoft Word, sacrificing grammar error announcement #NVAccess


Hi all,

For those using NVDA 2016.2 (or RC1): if you use Microsoft Word, please
grab
NVDA 2016.2.1, as it fixes Word crashing issue with loss of grammar error
announcement as a sacrifice. The new release from NV Access can be found
at:

http://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2016-2-1-update-now-available/

Cheers,

Joseph




Re: Important: NVDA 2016.2.1 is out, fixing crashes when working with Microsoft Word, sacrificing grammar error announcement #NVAccess

Sharni-Lee Ward
 

Okay, I've updated! I'll admit I agree with Brian about the grammar
errors not always being accurate, but we can't have NVDA crashing in Word!


I hope you guys release an update like this one that fixes the issues
with pronunciations in Espeak NG when the devs of that synth have made
the necessary tweaks. I miss espeak... It pronounced my made up
characters' names just right and now at least one of them has been
messed up and I don't know how to fix it so it's pronounced exactly the
way it used to be...

10/06/2016 6:24 PM, Brian's Mail list account wrote:

So how does the grammar bit work into this then?

I never use it in any case as their idea of grammar and mine are poles
apart.

Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph Lee"
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To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2016 9:09 AM
Subject: [nvda] Important: NVDA 2016.2.1 is out, fixing crashes when
working with Microsoft Word, sacrificing grammar error announcement
#NVAccess


Hi all,

For those using NVDA 2016.2 (or RC1): if you use Microsoft Word,
please grab
NVDA 2016.2.1, as it fixes Word crashing issue with loss of grammar
error
announcement as a sacrifice. The new release from NV Access can be
found at:

http://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2016-2-1-update-now-available/

Cheers,

Joseph




Re: Important: NVDA 2016.2.1 is out, fixing crashes when working with Microsoft Word, sacrificing grammar error announcement #NVAccess

Quentin Christensen
 

The issue would manifest if you had NVDA set to

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On 10 June 2016 at 18:24, Brian's Mail list account
<bglists@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
So how does the grammar bit work into this then?

I never use it in any case as their idea of grammar and mine are poles
apart.

Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2016 9:09 AM
Subject: [nvda] Important: NVDA 2016.2.1 is out, fixing crashes when working
with Microsoft Word, sacrificing grammar error announcement #NVAccess


Hi all,

For those using NVDA 2016.2 (or RC1): if you use Microsoft Word, please
grab
NVDA 2016.2.1, as it fixes Word crashing issue with loss of grammar error
announcement as a sacrifice. The new release from NV Access can be found
at:

http://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2016-2-1-update-now-available/

Cheers,

Joseph




Re: espeak n g no good it sneezes on some words

Sukil Etxenike <sukiletxe@...>
 

Hi Pete,

I'd suggest the same thing I suggested before. That is, file an issue at <http:///github.com/espeak-ng/espeak-ng/issues>. If you don't have an account on GitHub, I can do it for you.

Please describe the error in detail, as I use the same version of eSpeak (with occassionally the English voice) with rate set to 30 or 40 with rate boost and I find no problems. Or perhaps I missunderstood you, and you use different parameteres.


RegardsSukil

El 09/06/2016 a las 13:12, Pete escribió:

hi

I all ways used the default nvda max english voice, I am disappointed in the changes made to espeak in nvda I think starting with nvda 2015 or may be as far back as 2014. Were the changes made to espeak by nvda devel or the creator of espeak. I would like a choice in nvda setup to be able to pick witch espeak to install. I feal the need for speed quite freequently and to have that fluttering sound in there when the check box for rate boost is checked so I can get up to a 600 to 800 words per min is disruptive. I am still trying to get used to it.

Pete

On 6/8/2016 1:43 PM, nasrin khaksar wrote:
hi.
i use iven3 which is the best voice and also with default rate of nvda
which is 30!
its very perfect for me.

On 6/7/16, Shaun Everiss <sm.everiss@gmail.com> wrote:
I have replaced the data from old espeak over and the syntth works a lot
better one person had trouble however, espeak at least the word stuff
works as I expect it so I am not to worried.



On 8/06/2016 3:31 a.m., Pete wrote:
as the s line says espeak n g makes a buzzing or sneezing sound along
with some words.
NOT COOL AT ALL
along with the funny noises the voice flutters
This is default espeakng max voice set to en...
windows 7 x64 pro clean install
nvda installed using default settings except for speed set to 100
percent
Can I replace the espeak n g with the older one by copying the old one
over the new one in the program files x86 \ nvda folder?
Thanks for any help!
Pete




.



Re: Important: NVDA 2016.2.1 is out, fixing crashes when working with Microsoft Word, sacrificing grammar error announcement #NVAccess

Brian's Mail list account BY <bglists@...>
 

So how does the grammar bit work into this then?

I never use it in any case as their idea of grammar and mine are poles apart.

Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2016 9:09 AM
Subject: [nvda] Important: NVDA 2016.2.1 is out, fixing crashes when working with Microsoft Word, sacrificing grammar error announcement #NVAccess


Hi all,

For those using NVDA 2016.2 (or RC1): if you use Microsoft Word, please grab
NVDA 2016.2.1, as it fixes Word crashing issue with loss of grammar error
announcement as a sacrifice. The new release from NV Access can be found at:

http://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2016-2-1-update-now-available/

Cheers,

Joseph


Important: NVDA 2016.2.1 is out, fixing crashes when working with Microsoft Word, sacrificing grammar error announcement #NVAccess

 

Hi all,

For those using NVDA 2016.2 (or RC1): if you use Microsoft Word, please grab NVDA 2016.2.1, as it fixes Word crashing issue with loss of grammar error announcement as a sacrifice. The new release from NV Access can be found at:

http://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2016-2-1-update-now-available/

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: espeak n g no good it sneezes on some words

Sharni-Lee Ward
 

The reason I have it at default speed is it sounds as close to natural
as a synth can. That's also why I have inflection set to 100. I can't
bear synths without an inflection setting because I've been rather
spoiled by espeak. I tried Vocaliser two years ago and just couldn't
take it because however humanlike the voices sounded, they were also
more robotic-sounding to me than espeak with max inflection. Two of the
voices I used were also a bit on the slow side, but adjusting rate
didn't help matters.


I honestly can't stand hearing screen-readers going faster than my
settings in tutorials. I understand time constraints but that wouldn't
make me ramp up the speed.

On 10/06/2016 5:00 PM, Pete wrote:

hi

I have been using screen readers since 95 in windows except for an
old apple 2 e in the late 80s with textalker.


I do slow down first thing in the morning, uncheck the rate boost
and set speed to 100 % .

To me nvda set to 30 % sounds like if you set yours to 0 % or slower.

I am just used to it fast.

Pete



On 6/9/2016 11:14 PM, Sharni-Lee Ward wrote:
... How can anyone understand what's being read or enjoy what they're
reading at such outrageous speeds? I've never changed NVDA from its
default rate with espeak. And how can you even tell there's fluttering
if the synth is yammering on so fast you can barely make out the words?
I just tested it and I can't make out what's being said at all. If I
didn't know the contents of the dialogue, I'd be lost.


On 9/06/2016 9:12 PM, Pete wrote:
hi

I all ways used the default nvda max english voice, I am
disappointed in the changes made to espeak in nvda I think starting
with nvda 2015 or may be as far back as 2014. Were the changes made
to espeak by nvda devel or the creator of espeak. I would like a
choice in nvda setup to be able to pick witch espeak to install. I
feal the need for speed quite freequently and to have that fluttering
sound in there when the check box for rate boost is checked so I can
get up to a 600 to 800 words per min is disruptive. I am still trying
to get used to it.

Pete

On 6/8/2016 1:43 PM, nasrin khaksar wrote:
hi.
i use iven3 which is the best voice and also with default rate of nvda
which is 30!
its very perfect for me.

On 6/7/16, Shaun Everiss <sm.everiss@gmail.com> wrote:
I have replaced the data from old espeak over and the syntth works a
lot
better one person had trouble however, espeak at least the word stuff
works as I expect it so I am not to worried.



On 8/06/2016 3:31 a.m., Pete wrote:
as the s line says espeak n g makes a buzzing or sneezing sound
along
with some words.
NOT COOL AT ALL
along with the funny noises the voice flutters
This is default espeakng max voice set to en...
windows 7 x64 pro clean install
nvda installed using default settings except for speed set to
100
percent
Can I replace the espeak n g with the older one by copying the
old one
over the new one in the program files x86 \ nvda folder?
Thanks for any help!
Pete




.





Re: espeak n g no good it sneezes on some words

Pete <emac00@...>
 

hi

I have been using screen readers since 95 in windows except for an old apple 2 e in the late 80s with textalker.


I do slow down first thing in the morning, uncheck the rate boost and set speed to 100 % .

To me nvda set to 30 % sounds like if you set yours to 0 % or slower.

I am just used to it fast.

Pete

On 6/9/2016 11:14 PM, Sharni-Lee Ward wrote:
... How can anyone understand what's being read or enjoy what they're
reading at such outrageous speeds? I've never changed NVDA from its
default rate with espeak. And how can you even tell there's fluttering
if the synth is yammering on so fast you can barely make out the words?
I just tested it and I can't make out what's being said at all. If I
didn't know the contents of the dialogue, I'd be lost.


On 9/06/2016 9:12 PM, Pete wrote:
hi

I all ways used the default nvda max english voice, I am
disappointed in the changes made to espeak in nvda I think starting
with nvda 2015 or may be as far back as 2014. Were the changes made
to espeak by nvda devel or the creator of espeak. I would like a
choice in nvda setup to be able to pick witch espeak to install. I
feal the need for speed quite freequently and to have that fluttering
sound in there when the check box for rate boost is checked so I can
get up to a 600 to 800 words per min is disruptive. I am still trying
to get used to it.

Pete

On 6/8/2016 1:43 PM, nasrin khaksar wrote:
hi.
i use iven3 which is the best voice and also with default rate of nvda
which is 30!
its very perfect for me.

On 6/7/16, Shaun Everiss <sm.everiss@gmail.com> wrote:
I have replaced the data from old espeak over and the syntth works a
lot
better one person had trouble however, espeak at least the word stuff
works as I expect it so I am not to worried.



On 8/06/2016 3:31 a.m., Pete wrote:
as the s line says espeak n g makes a buzzing or sneezing sound
along
with some words.
NOT COOL AT ALL
along with the funny noises the voice flutters
This is default espeakng max voice set to en...
windows 7 x64 pro clean install
nvda installed using default settings except for speed set to 100
percent
Can I replace the espeak n g with the older one by copying the
old one
over the new one in the program files x86 \ nvda folder?
Thanks for any help!
Pete




.


Re: espeak n g no good it sneezes on some words

 

hi.
i completely aggree.
the best speed is only default speed and i cant understand how people
use screen readers with there higher speed!
its very annoying and untolerable using screen readers with high speed!

On 6/10/16, Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@gmail.com> wrote:
I'd never be able to understand words at such high speed either. I don't
know how anybody can.


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Sharni-Lee Ward
Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2016 8:15 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] espeak n g no good it sneezes on some words

... How can anyone understand what's being read or enjoy what they're
reading at such outrageous speeds? I've never changed NVDA from its default
rate with espeak. And how can you even tell there's fluttering if the synth
is yammering on so fast you can barely make out the words?
I just tested it and I can't make out what's being said at all. If I didn't
know the contents of the dialogue, I'd be lost.


On 9/06/2016 9:12 PM, Pete wrote:

hi

I all ways used the default nvda max english voice, I am
disappointed in the changes made to espeak in nvda I think starting
with nvda 2015 or may be as far back as 2014. Were the changes made
to espeak by nvda devel or the creator of espeak. I would like a
choice in nvda setup to be able to pick witch espeak to install. I
feal the need for speed quite freequently and to have that fluttering
sound in there when the check box for rate boost is checked so I can
get up to a 600 to 800 words per min is disruptive. I am still trying
to get used to it.

Pete

On 6/8/2016 1:43 PM, nasrin khaksar wrote:
hi.
i use iven3 which is the best voice and also with default rate of
nvda which is 30!
its very perfect for me.

On 6/7/16, Shaun Everiss <sm.everiss@gmail.com> wrote:
I have replaced the data from old espeak over and the syntth works a
lot better one person had trouble however, espeak at least the word
stuff works as I expect it so I am not to worried.



On 8/06/2016 3:31 a.m., Pete wrote:
as the s line says espeak n g makes a buzzing or sneezing sound
along with some words.
NOT COOL AT ALL
along with the funny noises the voice flutters
This is default espeakng max voice set to en...
windows 7 x64 pro clean install
nvda installed using default settings except for speed set to
100 percent
Can I replace the espeak n g with the older one by copying the
old one over the new one in the program files x86 \ nvda folder?
Thanks for any help!
Pete




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Re: espeak n g no good it sneezes on some words

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

I'd never be able to understand words at such high speed either. I don't know how anybody can.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sharni-Lee Ward
Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2016 8:15 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] espeak n g no good it sneezes on some words

... How can anyone understand what's being read or enjoy what they're reading at such outrageous speeds? I've never changed NVDA from its default rate with espeak. And how can you even tell there's fluttering if the synth is yammering on so fast you can barely make out the words?
I just tested it and I can't make out what's being said at all. If I didn't know the contents of the dialogue, I'd be lost.


On 9/06/2016 9:12 PM, Pete wrote:

hi

I all ways used the default nvda max english voice, I am
disappointed in the changes made to espeak in nvda I think starting
with nvda 2015 or may be as far back as 2014. Were the changes made
to espeak by nvda devel or the creator of espeak. I would like a
choice in nvda setup to be able to pick witch espeak to install. I
feal the need for speed quite freequently and to have that fluttering
sound in there when the check box for rate boost is checked so I can
get up to a 600 to 800 words per min is disruptive. I am still trying
to get used to it.

Pete

On 6/8/2016 1:43 PM, nasrin khaksar wrote:
hi.
i use iven3 which is the best voice and also with default rate of
nvda which is 30!
its very perfect for me.

On 6/7/16, Shaun Everiss <sm.everiss@gmail.com> wrote:
I have replaced the data from old espeak over and the syntth works a
lot better one person had trouble however, espeak at least the word
stuff works as I expect it so I am not to worried.



On 8/06/2016 3:31 a.m., Pete wrote:
as the s line says espeak n g makes a buzzing or sneezing sound
along with some words.
NOT COOL AT ALL
along with the funny noises the voice flutters
This is default espeakng max voice set to en...
windows 7 x64 pro clean install
nvda installed using default settings except for speed set to
100 percent
Can I replace the espeak n g with the older one by copying the
old one over the new one in the program files x86 \ nvda folder?
Thanks for any help!
Pete




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Re: OT: Refresh firefox might have solved NVDA-lock-up issue

Jacob Kruger
 

Ok, seems if install webvisum extension - either version directly off webvisum.com - after using advanced settings to enable unsigned extension add-on installation, or the signed version, then firefox starts overloading/locking up NVDA again.

So, for now, while it's installed, it's disabled, and issue seems to have gone away for now as well, but, yes, while not end of the world for me, this also means navigational sound pack is also not operating/playing sounds.

Stay well

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, acceptance is versatile"

----- Original Message -----
From: "Lino Morales" <linomorales001@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: 09 June, 2016 10:43 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] OT: Refresh firefox might have solved NVDA-lock-up issue


Dude! WTH! I don't understand why Navagitional Sounds extention isn't working. I just downloaded V 47 of FF yesterday and said extention works along with Dr. James Sholes patch of Webvisum.


On 6/9/2016 4:31 PM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
Thats always a good choice when its needed.
Sadly it looks like version 47 has introduced a few issues, navigational sounds does not work, mozilla has depricated some libraries.
Here's the thing, the brouser has actually got faster.
I have noticed that stuff that would take a few seconds more to load seems to have gotten well faster.
reportedly we are supposed to se vp8 codec and html5 full support in this version and while flash if its installed can and will be used where html5 exists it will be prefured over flash so things are going up.
I have not as of today downloaded anything though I did last night.
I am currently trying to get through today's data stream which is not to much before I need to get out of the country on my vacation so I am only interested in really making sure everything is done as I will not be using the net at all whilst away and I want to be up to date as I can before I leave.



On 10/06/2016 6:36 a.m., Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hi Jacob,


I also used this refresh Firefox link to get rid of some sort of hijack
page that used to come up on the Free Football Radio page. That is to
say that for some reason, on that page and that page only, when I tried
accessing it, I got a weird semi-hijack page that wanted me to sign up
for some sort of service. I can't remember what or even what the page
was--as this was almost a year ago. My antivirus and anti malware
programs showed clean.


I went to the Firefox support page and for the heck of it, I clicked on
that refresh Firefox page and it worked like a charm. I have no such
issues and it's been almost a year on that and any other pages. I
recommend that approach for anyone having any issues with Firefox--even
before you try an uninstall and reinstall of the program.



On 6/9/2016 10:49 AM, Jacob Kruger wrote:
While I know this isn't directly related to NVDA itself, among other
things I was considering trying to roll back from latest v.46 of
firefox, to a prior version of firefox, back to something like
late-30's version number, just to see if that would help, but, came
across the following page, which, if you load it in firefox itself,
offers a form of utility link to refresh firefox to default settings,
uninstall all extensions, etc. etc.:
https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/refresh-firefox-reset-add-ons-and-settings


Now, I let that thing do it's thing, and while no more
extensions/add-ons, like webvisum and f123 are now installed, all my
bookmarks, etc. were still available, but, did have to do things like
reset my home/startup page, etc.

However, main thing is, while have just been testing/trying this out
for roundabout 10 minutes now, playing around with youTube, facebook
mobile, and various google searches, etc., it does seem to have,
possibly, stopped firefox from overloading/overclocking this windows
10 64-bit operating system instance, and also hasn't, thus far, made
NVDA go all silent, etc.

In other words, just posting this here, in case any other guys want to
give it a try, and, if it carries on cooperating for a while, then I
will try something like reinstalling the webvisum extension first,
since it's worked for me over a few years now, etc., and will
definitely keep track of any other extensions that get installed, to
just try keep track of if/when it reverts back to a form of
go-slow...<smile>

Stay well

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, acceptance is versatile"



Re: espeak n g no good it sneezes on some words

Sharni-Lee Ward
 

... How can anyone understand what's being read or enjoy what they're
reading at such outrageous speeds? I've never changed NVDA from its
default rate with espeak. And how can you even tell there's fluttering
if the synth is yammering on so fast you can barely make out the words?
I just tested it and I can't make out what's being said at all. If I
didn't know the contents of the dialogue, I'd be lost.

On 9/06/2016 9:12 PM, Pete wrote:

hi

I all ways used the default nvda max english voice, I am
disappointed in the changes made to espeak in nvda I think starting
with nvda 2015 or may be as far back as 2014. Were the changes made
to espeak by nvda devel or the creator of espeak. I would like a
choice in nvda setup to be able to pick witch espeak to install. I
feal the need for speed quite freequently and to have that fluttering
sound in there when the check box for rate boost is checked so I can
get up to a 600 to 800 words per min is disruptive. I am still trying
to get used to it.

Pete

On 6/8/2016 1:43 PM, nasrin khaksar wrote:
hi.
i use iven3 which is the best voice and also with default rate of nvda
which is 30!
its very perfect for me.

On 6/7/16, Shaun Everiss <sm.everiss@gmail.com> wrote:
I have replaced the data from old espeak over and the syntth works a
lot
better one person had trouble however, espeak at least the word stuff
works as I expect it so I am not to worried.



On 8/06/2016 3:31 a.m., Pete wrote:
as the s line says espeak n g makes a buzzing or sneezing sound
along
with some words.
NOT COOL AT ALL
along with the funny noises the voice flutters
This is default espeakng max voice set to en...
windows 7 x64 pro clean install
nvda installed using default settings except for speed set to 100
percent
Can I replace the espeak n g with the older one by copying the
old one
over the new one in the program files x86 \ nvda folder?
Thanks for any help!
Pete




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Re: two different questions:

mohammad suliman
 

Hello,
Regarding first question:   I am not aware of differences in terms of accessibility between different version. Latest one should work fine for you.
All the best





On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 9:20 PM +0300, "Andre Fisher" <andrefisher729@...> wrote:

No screen reader announces if the message is read or unread in basic
HTML view. Switch to standard view to get that functionality.

On 6/9/16, nasrin khaksar  wrote:
> hello every one.
> irst, whats the most accessible version of notepad plus plus?
> and second, how can i realized that did i read a specific email or not?
> because i use basic html view in gmail and in this mode, nvda does not
> announce is this email read or unread?
> i appreciate your help, thanks so much and god bless you.
>
> --
> Those who follow the Messenger-Prophet, the Ummi, whom they find
> written down with them in the Taurat and the Injeel [who] enjoins them
> good and forbids them evil, and makes lawful to them the good things
> and makes unlawful to them impure things, and removes from them their
> burden and the shackles which were upon them; so [as for] those who
> believe in him and honor him and help him, and follow the light which
> has been sent down with him, these it is that are the successful.
> holy quran, chapter 7, verse 157.
> best website for studying islamic book in different languages
> al-islam.org
>
> 
>
>




Re: Intro

Jenine Stanley
 

No, sorry, not that Jeanine. Scary to know there might be 2 of us.
Jenine Stanley
dragonwalker64@gmail.com

On Jun 9, 2016, at 8:24 PM, Jim Smith <jimsmithfl@gmail.com> wrote:

Is this Janine Stanley from Beecher city Illinois this is Jimmy Dick Smith I hope this is the right one hello my Janine Janine you still got a trombone

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 9, 2016, at 1:04 PM, Jenine Stanley <dragonwalker64@gmail.com> wrote:

Just to introduce myself here. I have been using NVDA for about 18 months or so now and generally love the program.

I am having one issue though with focus mode that I will detail in a separate message.
Jenine Stanley
dragonwalker64@gmail.com







Re: Intro

Bob J
 

Wow! I guess ?smart? phones don't have punctuation symbols! For shame!

Bob

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Smith" <jimsmithfl@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2016 8:24 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Intro


Is this Janine Stanley from Beecher city Illinois this is Jimmy Dick Smith I hope this is the right one hello my Janine Janine you still got a trombone

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 9, 2016, at 1:04 PM, Jenine Stanley <dragonwalker64@gmail.com> wrote:

Just to introduce myself here. I have been using NVDA for about 18 months or so now and generally love the program.

I am having one issue though with focus mode that I will detail in a separate message.
Jenine Stanley
dragonwalker64@gmail.com








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Re: Intro

Jim Smith
 

Is this Janine Stanley from Beecher city Illinois this is Jimmy Dick Smith I hope this is the right one hello my Janine Janine you still got a trombone

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 9, 2016, at 1:04 PM, Jenine Stanley <dragonwalker64@gmail.com> wrote:

Just to introduce myself here. I have been using NVDA for about 18 months or so now and generally love the program.

I am having one issue though with focus mode that I will detail in a separate message.
Jenine Stanley
dragonwalker64@gmail.com






Vocalizer expressive

Chris Shook <chris0309@...>
 

Rui,
I have a question. CodeFactory has a british english Voice named Oliver. Any chance of that coming with the new update from Tiflotecnia?
Thanks
Chris


Re: Issue with focus mode in 2016.2

Jenine Stanley
 

I can certainly check this. Not sure what good it will do but if it could help, I’ll take a look at my error log tomorrow.

2016.1 was fine, no such issues.
Jenine Stanley
dragonwalker64@gmail.com

On Jun 9, 2016, at 5:58 PM, Ethan <ethan8768@gmail.com> wrote:

Jenine:

I have reported this issue before with a NVDA log attached with no
solution to the NVDA list. This focus mode problem happens for me as
well with NVDA 2016.2 at work. The only solution I have is to install
NVDA 2015.3 onto your computer. Ever since 2015.4 for me it seems to
not work. NVDA 2016.2 works fine on my computer at home.

Check your NVDA error log and see if any of these lines are present
when you load a webpage: (I have NVDA set on debug logging level)
<virtualBuffers.gecko_ia2.Gecko_ia2 object at 0x059FAFD0>
ERROR - virtualBuffers.Gecko_ia2._loadBuffer
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "virtualBuffers\__init__.pyo", line 369, in _loadBuffer
WindowsError: [Error 1702] The binding handle is invalid

Thank you,

Ethan

On 6/9/16, Jenine Stanley <dragonwalker64@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks Jacob,

I just tried this, toggling control-F6 and though it did exactly what it was
supposed to do in terms of moving me between the search bar and the web page
contents, it did nothing to effect focus mode with NVDA.

I’ll try anything though so never fear.
Jenine Stanley
dragonwalker64@gmail.com



On Jun 9, 2016, at 3:33 PM, Jacob Kruger <jacob@blindza.co.za> wrote:

Try one other one thing, just in case - in both IE, and firefox, ctrl + F6
might toggle focus between address bar, and webpage contents.

As in, try hitting alt + D to focus on address bar again, and then ctrl +
F6 to, possibly, jump to/focus on the webpage itself.

But, this might not solve the problem at all, but, is just a keystroke
combination I have used for a while with multiple screen readers to, at
times, make sure it is focused on webpage contents.

STay well

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, acceptance is versatile"

----- Original Message ----- From: "Jenine Stanley"
<dragonwalker64@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: 09 June, 2016 8:55 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Issue with focus mode in 2016.2


Thanks Joseph,

I’m glad I’m not alone. I ahve seen some improvement when tabbing around
some web sites but unfortunately, not many. If the site has a lot of
places that would trigger focus mode, it doesn’t tend to work.

I’m all ears for any ways to deal with this as I’m effectively shut out of
browsing, reading or tasks for my job, on the Windows machine anyway.
Jenine Stanley
dragonwalker64@gmail.com



On Jun 9, 2016, at 2:44 PM, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com>
wrote:

Hi,
We have reports of this happening to users (you are not alone). Sounds
like somehow browse mode routine (specifically, the behind the scenes
routine of browse mode) is failing somehow. When this happens, try
tabbing around (I found that it works for some websites where it'll take
a long time for NVDA to render browse mode).
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Jenine Stanley
Sent: Thursday, June 9, 2016 10:24 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Issue with focus mode in 2016.2

Apologies in advance for the length of this post. I downloaded the latest
version of NVDA the day it came out and began to notice right away that I
was having a problem with focus mode when opening web pages.

My sistem is as follows:

Windows 7 latest updates
Web browsers: Internet Explorer 11 and Firefox

All of my other programs have no issues with NVDA.

Here’s what happens when I open a web page.

Nothing is announced until I alt-tab away from the page. then the title
of the page is announced but the word “document” is after the title of
the web page.

Focus mode appears to be on.

Here’s what I’ve done.

1. toggled Focus Mode with NVDA-space. with no effect and no speech or
sound with each toggle 2. Hit escape several times with no speech, audio
or change.
3. Made sure the numlock key was off, toggled it on and off again. This
function spoke but had no effect on Focus Mode.
4. Left the web page and tried focus mode in another app, Outlook 2007,
worked as normal.
5. Tried both browsers, same result, Focus Mode locked.
6. Updated Windows7, IE and Firefox. Restarted computer, no change.
7. downloaded and stalled a new version of NVDA over the old one.
Restarted computer, no change.
8. Removed NVDA and reinstalled the version I’d downloaded, all mentioned
versions are current btw. No change.
9. I even tried Window-Eyes to see if it was my computer. No, Window-Eyes
worked fine on both browsers.

I then looked at the settings for browsers but didn’t understand several
of them. I tried toggling them on/off and testing web pages but no
change.

Any idea what’s going on here?

Thanks for any advice you can give.
Jenine Stanley
dragonwalker64@gmail.com