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Re: Merry Christmas

 

Merry Christmas all, can't wait.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2018 2:55 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Merry Christmas

Hi, Molly,


I'm really excited for Christmas too. I knitted dishcloths for everyone for Christmas this year. I usually give gift certificates but this year I thought I'd do something different.


Rosemarie



On 12/23/2018 4:31 PM, molly the blind tech lover wrote:
I'm so excited for Christmas!!!! Family, friends, delicious food. I miss my sister so much and can't wait to see her on Christmas.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rosemarie
Chavarria
Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2018 6:37 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Merry Christmas

Happy and Merry Christmas from me to everyone on the list.



On 12/23/2018 3:21 PM, Laurie Mehta via Groups.Io wrote:
Happy Christmas to you as well, and to everyone on the list!
-Laurie
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On Sun, 12/23/18, Ján Kulik <jan.kulik.szsle@outlook.sk> wrote:

Subject: [nvda] Merry Christmas
To: "nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io" <nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io>, "nvda-translations@groups.io" <nvda-translations@groups.io>, "nvda@nvda.groups.io" <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Date: Sunday, December 23, 2018, 12:28 PM

Hi everione, happy merry Christmas 2018














Re: Merry Christmas

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi, Molly,


I'm really excited for Christmas too. I knitted dishcloths for everyone for Christmas this year. I usually give gift certificates but this year I thought I'd do something different.


Rosemarie

On 12/23/2018 4:31 PM, molly the blind tech lover wrote:
I'm so excited for Christmas!!!! Family, friends, delicious food. I miss my sister so much and can't wait to see her on Christmas.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2018 6:37 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Merry Christmas

Happy and Merry Christmas from me to everyone on the list.



On 12/23/2018 3:21 PM, Laurie Mehta via Groups.Io wrote:
Happy Christmas to you as well, and to everyone on the list!
-Laurie
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On Sun, 12/23/18, Ján Kulik <jan.kulik.szsle@outlook.sk> wrote:

Subject: [nvda] Merry Christmas
To: "nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io" <nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io>, "nvda-translations@groups.io" <nvda-translations@groups.io>, "nvda@nvda.groups.io" <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Date: Sunday, December 23, 2018, 12:28 PM
Hi everione, happy merry Christmas 2018






Re: Want to resume chkdsk

 

On Sun, Dec 23, 2018 at 06:41 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
On my ssd the check check disk in about45 minutes and it's a 1 tb hard drive.
It's either a:

            1.  Solid State Drive (SSD), which has no "platter parts" like #2 does.

            2.  Hard Disc Drive, which is spinning platters of magnetic media with read/write heads

            3.  Solid State Hybrid Drive, which has a very small SSD component paired with a conventional HDD - These are not all that popular and seem to be going away.

Doing a chkdsk on an SSD would be expected to be hugely faster than doing the same on either an HDD or SSHD.

A huge HDD that has not much actual storage space allocated will also go through a chkdsk much more rapidly than one packed to the gills with data.  And any unallocated space (as in a partition that's never been assigned a drive letter) will not be scanned at all.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

          ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back

 

 


Re: fore some reason nvda isn't talking when I'm using my keyboard

molly the blind tech lover
 

My surface lags slightly sometimes, but it’s no big deal. I’ll probably upgrade my surface next year. For now I love it… Most of the time.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2018 7:17 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] fore some reason nvda isn't talking when I'm using my keyboard

 

I can’t comment on the Surface and I don’t know why the computer you describe was so slow.  I am using a laptop at the moment, as I write this message which I bought in 2011.  It was a reasonably fast machine for its time but nothing out of the ordinary.  I can load Chrome using a blank home page in about three seconds.  The New York Times Home Page loads in

about three seconds.  I can load Windows Live Mail in slightly less than two seconds.

 

It takes about twentyy seconds to get to the login screen when booting and ten or fifteen seconds to get to the desktop when I press enter to log in. 

 

Computers using physical hard drives aren’t slow if they are reasonably fast machines.  And I’m using Windows 7, and many Windows 10 users say that Windows 10 is faster. 

 

And as I said, if I use sleep, I can resume from sleep in two or three seconds.  I just opened Wordpad.  It took about two seconds.  If I open word starter, it takes a good deal longer. It takes about ten seconds.  But after you open Word, you work with documents.  It should take no meanikngfully different time regardless of mechanical or solid state drive to edit a document.  

 

I’m not disputing that a SSD is faster.  I’m saying that for many users, I don’t think the faster time matters in any significant way.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2018 5:28 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] fore some reason nvda isn't talking when I'm using my keyboard

 

That sounds more like a memory issue than anything related to your
storage.  Windows these days isn't happy with less than 4GB of ram, and if
you had less than that on that pc, it's no wonder it was slow, since
windows had to swap all the time.  I'd wager that if you upgraded the ram
in that machine, it would run considerably better.

On Sat, 22 Dec 2018, Tyler Wood wrote:

> What world is that in? lol. Unless you're referring to the surface pro 6,
> then it is about on parr with other laptops with solid state storage.
>
>
> I mean, unless you want to go with a 1 tb spinning hard drive and in 2018,
> that's a hard sell.
>
>
> I was using a computer recently that had a core i7-7820HQ (that's a quad core
> processor with 8 threads). It had a mechanical 1 terabyte hard drive, and it
> was made last year.
>
>
> Browsing the web was so much slower than on a machine with a solid state
> drive. It shouldn't be - after all the web browser was already loaded - but
> it was truly painful. Restarting was just about as painful, to. Even
> comparing this to a cheap windows device with a solid state drive - even EMMC
> storage - and I truthfully can't recommend a mechanical hard drive these
> days. And I'm not even getting into general performance. Moving around the
> screen was painfully slow. Opening apps took far longer than a machine with a
> hard drive, even 4 or 5 years ago, used to. I'm not sure if it was the screen
> reader making performance that much worse, but it was similar to using a
> computer, back in the day, that had 256 mb of ram and ran windows xp.
> Browsing the web, while doable, was probably my biggest issue.
>
>
> So, yes, while the surface go is relatively expensive when you increase the
> storage space, it comes with the benefit of having a solid state drive. In
> todays day and age, we think windows 10 is very light on resources. It most
> assuredly is not.
>


Re: Merry Christmas

molly the blind tech lover
 

I'm so excited for Christmas!!!! Family, friends, delicious food. I miss my sister so much and can't wait to see her on Christmas.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2018 6:37 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Merry Christmas

Happy and Merry Christmas from me to everyone on the list.



On 12/23/2018 3:21 PM, Laurie Mehta via Groups.Io wrote:
Happy Christmas to you as well, and to everyone on the list!
-Laurie
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On Sun, 12/23/18, Ján Kulik <jan.kulik.szsle@outlook.sk> wrote:

Subject: [nvda] Merry Christmas
To: "nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io" <nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io>, "nvda-translations@groups.io" <nvda-translations@groups.io>, "nvda@nvda.groups.io" <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Date: Sunday, December 23, 2018, 12:28 PM

Hi everione, happy merry Christmas 2018










Re: Merry Christmas

molly the blind tech lover
 

Happy Christmas.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ján Kulik
Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2018 3:29 PM
To: nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io; nvda-translations@groups.io; nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Merry Christmas

Hi everione, happy merry Christmas 2018


Re: fore some reason nvda isn't talking when I'm using my keyboard

Gene
 

I can’t comment on the Surface and I don’t know why the computer you describe was so slow.  I am using a laptop at the moment, as I write this message which I bought in 2011.  It was a reasonably fast machine for its time but nothing out of the ordinary.  I can load Chrome using a blank home page in about three seconds.  The New York Times Home Page loads in
about three seconds.  I can load Windows Live Mail in slightly less than two seconds.
 
It takes about twentyy seconds to get to the login screen when booting and ten or fifteen seconds to get to the desktop when I press enter to log in. 
 
Computers using physical hard drives aren’t slow if they are reasonably fast machines.  And I’m using Windows 7, and many Windows 10 users say that Windows 10 is faster. 
 
And as I said, if I use sleep, I can resume from sleep in two or three seconds.  I just opened Wordpad.  It took about two seconds.  If I open word starter, it takes a good deal longer. It takes about ten seconds.  But after you open Word, you work with documents.  It should take no meanikngfully different time regardless of mechanical or solid state drive to edit a document.  
 
I’m not disputing that a SSD is faster.  I’m saying that for many users, I don’t think the faster time matters in any significant way.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2018 5:28 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] fore some reason nvda isn't talking when I'm using my keyboard
 
That sounds more like a memory issue than anything related to your
storage.  Windows these days isn't happy with less than 4GB of ram, and if
you had less than that on that pc, it's no wonder it was slow, since
windows had to swap all the time.  I'd wager that if you upgraded the ram
in that machine, it would run considerably better.

On Sat, 22 Dec 2018, Tyler Wood wrote:

> What world is that in? lol. Unless you're referring to the surface pro 6,
> then it is about on parr with other laptops with solid state storage.
>
>
> I mean, unless you want to go with a 1 tb spinning hard drive and in 2018,
> that's a hard sell.
>
>
> I was using a computer recently that had a core i7-7820HQ (that's a quad core
> processor with 8 threads). It had a mechanical 1 terabyte hard drive, and it
> was made last year.
>
>
> Browsing the web was so much slower than on a machine with a solid state
> drive. It shouldn't be - after all the web browser was already loaded - but
> it was truly painful. Restarting was just about as painful, to. Even
> comparing this to a cheap windows device with a solid state drive - even EMMC
> storage - and I truthfully can't recommend a mechanical hard drive these
> days. And I'm not even getting into general performance. Moving around the
> screen was painfully slow. Opening apps took far longer than a machine with a
> hard drive, even 4 or 5 years ago, used to. I'm not sure if it was the screen
> reader making performance that much worse, but it was similar to using a
> computer, back in the day, that had 256 mb of ram and ran windows xp.
> Browsing the web, while doable, was probably my biggest issue.
>
>
> So, yes, while the surface go is relatively expensive when you increase the
> storage space, it comes with the benefit of having a solid state drive. In
> todays day and age, we think windows 10 is very light on resources. It most
> assuredly is not.
>



Re: Merry Christmas

 

Merry Christmas and happy new year to everyone on this list!
Em 23/12/2018 21:37, Rosemarie Chavarria escreveu:

Happy and Merry Christmas from me to everyone on the list.



On 12/23/2018 3:21 PM, Laurie Mehta via Groups.Io wrote:
Happy Christmas to you as well, and to everyone on the list!
-Laurie
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On Sun, 12/23/18, Ján Kulik <jan.kulik.szsle@...> wrote:

  Subject: [nvda] Merry Christmas
  To: "nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io" <nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io>, "nvda-translations@groups.io" <nvda-translations@groups.io>, "nvda@nvda.groups.io" <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
  Date: Sunday, December 23, 2018, 12:28 PM
    Hi everione, happy merry Christmas 2018
             








Re: Want to resume chkdsk

Sarah k Alawami
 

On my ssd the check check disk in about45 minutes and it's a 1 tb hard drive. Man that thing is fast when it wants to be. No there is no way to resume. Just let it run over night.

Take care

On 23 Dec 2018, at 10:40, farhan israk wrote:

Thank you. My computer doesn't have any issue. I want to check my harddisk has bad sector or not. Capacity of drives are so high that I can't complete in 3-4 hours.


On Sun, 23 Dec 2018, 5:09 pm Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io <bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io wrote:
As far as I know you have to let it go to the end as it restarts again after
a new start unless there are hidden files which tell it otherwise, but that
would be a security issue I'd have thought.
 Also be aware that if any software has changed any of the files it scans to
ones modified, the old ones will be put back and this will mean those
programs will have to be reinstalled again. that has my experience even on
windows 7.
 What exactly is the issue you are trying to fix?
 Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "farhan israk" <fahim.net.2014@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2018 5:08 AM
Subject: [nvda] Want to resume chkdsk


>I use Windows 10 1803. Is it possible to pause chkdsk, shut down computer
> and resume after turning on computer?
>
>
>
>





Re: fore some reason nvda isn't talking when I'm using my keyboard

 

I have had a system with memmory issues.

System boots, then it doesn't random shutdowns a lot of issues all over the place.

You can try running a memmory diagnostic from a boot disk if you can access it or there are some windows apps I forget.

But ram sticks can go bad.

On 12/24/2018 12:28 PM, Travis Siegel wrote:
That sounds more like a memory issue than anything related to your storage.  Windows these days isn't happy with less than 4GB of ram, and if you had less than that on that pc, it's no wonder it was slow, since windows had to swap all the time.  I'd wager that if you upgraded the ram in that machine, it would run considerably better.

On Sat, 22 Dec 2018, Tyler Wood wrote:

What world is that in? lol. Unless you're referring to the surface pro 6, then it is about on parr with other laptops with solid state storage.


I mean, unless you want to go with a 1 tb spinning hard drive and in 2018, that's a hard sell.


I was using a computer recently that had a core i7-7820HQ (that's a quad core processor with 8 threads). It had a mechanical 1 terabyte hard drive, and it was made last year.


Browsing the web was so much slower than on a machine with a solid state drive. It shouldn't be - after all the web browser was already loaded - but it was truly painful. Restarting was just about as painful, to. Even comparing this to a cheap windows device with a solid state drive - even EMMC storage - and I truthfully can't recommend a mechanical hard drive these days. And I'm not even getting into general performance. Moving around the screen was painfully slow. Opening apps took far longer than a machine with a hard drive, even 4 or 5 years ago, used to. I'm not sure if it was the screen reader making performance that much worse, but it was similar to using a computer, back in the day, that had 256 mb of ram and ran windows xp. Browsing the web, while doable, was probably my biggest issue.


So, yes, while the surface go is relatively expensive when you increase the storage space, it comes with the benefit of having a solid state drive. In todays day and age, we think windows 10 is very light on resources. It most assuredly is not.


Re: How different is NVDA different than Jaws? ... JAWS cursor

Sarah k Alawami
 

Oh, that's the easy part. It gives me a layout of what the screen looks like in a way. it's just like a mac. Open up the box to see what's inside that box and you sometimes have to repeat but it is way easier sometimes to use than jaws now a days.

On 23 Dec 2018, at 8:40, Ann Byrne wrote:

My most difficult issue with NVDA is understanding object view. I struggle to move freely around the screen the way the JAWS cursor often does.



Re: Merry Christmas

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Happy and Merry Christmas from me to everyone on the list.

On 12/23/2018 3:21 PM, Laurie Mehta via Groups.Io wrote:
Happy Christmas to you as well, and to everyone on the list!
-Laurie
--------------------------------------------
On Sun, 12/23/18, Ján Kulik <jan.kulik.szsle@outlook.sk> wrote:

Subject: [nvda] Merry Christmas
To: "nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io" <nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io>, "nvda-translations@groups.io" <nvda-translations@groups.io>, "nvda@nvda.groups.io" <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Date: Sunday, December 23, 2018, 12:28 PM
Hi everione, happy merry Christmas 2018


Re: fore some reason nvda isn't talking when I'm using my keyboard

Travis Siegel <tsiegel@...>
 

That sounds more like a memory issue than anything related to your storage. Windows these days isn't happy with less than 4GB of ram, and if you had less than that on that pc, it's no wonder it was slow, since windows had to swap all the time. I'd wager that if you upgraded the ram in that machine, it would run considerably better.

On Sat, 22 Dec 2018, Tyler Wood wrote:

What world is that in? lol. Unless you're referring to the surface pro 6, then it is about on parr with other laptops with solid state storage.


I mean, unless you want to go with a 1 tb spinning hard drive and in 2018, that's a hard sell.


I was using a computer recently that had a core i7-7820HQ (that's a quad core processor with 8 threads). It had a mechanical 1 terabyte hard drive, and it was made last year.


Browsing the web was so much slower than on a machine with a solid state drive. It shouldn't be - after all the web browser was already loaded - but it was truly painful. Restarting was just about as painful, to. Even comparing this to a cheap windows device with a solid state drive - even EMMC storage - and I truthfully can't recommend a mechanical hard drive these days. And I'm not even getting into general performance. Moving around the screen was painfully slow. Opening apps took far longer than a machine with a hard drive, even 4 or 5 years ago, used to. I'm not sure if it was the screen reader making performance that much worse, but it was similar to using a computer, back in the day, that had 256 mb of ram and ran windows xp. Browsing the web, while doable, was probably my biggest issue.


So, yes, while the surface go is relatively expensive when you increase the storage space, it comes with the benefit of having a solid state drive. In todays day and age, we think windows 10 is very light on resources. It most assuredly is not.


Re: Merry Christmas

Laurie Mehta
 

Happy Christmas to you as well, and to everyone on the list!
-Laurie
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On Sun, 12/23/18, Ján Kulik <jan.kulik.szsle@outlook.sk> wrote:

Subject: [nvda] Merry Christmas
To: "nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io" <nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io>, "nvda-translations@groups.io" <nvda-translations@groups.io>, "nvda@nvda.groups.io" <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Date: Sunday, December 23, 2018, 12:28 PM

Hi everione, happy merry Christmas 2018


Re: NVDA and SiriusXM radio.

Travis Siegel <tsiegel@...>
 

It's atually prettu accessible. I have used the web site to access it, though I usually use the Iphone app, or the echo to play particular stations. The web site isn't layed out as nicely as it could be, but once you get the hang of it, it works well enough. We have it for both the car and the web, so we can use it both when travelling and when at home. Out of all of them, the echo is of course the most accessible, followed by the app, followed by the web site, followed by the car (my wife has to do the switch from am/fm to xm. After the xm is selected, ZI can switch between stations, and presets work, but otherwise, I can't do a thing with it in the car <frown>

On Sat, 22 Dec 2018, John Isige wrote:

Hey all. I'm thinking of subscribing to SiriusXM radio to check it out. I'll mostly be listening on a PC. So I was wondering if anybody has tried it and can report on accessibility. Do they have an app? Do you just listen through the website? Can you stream it in another media player? I know you can stream it on the Amazon Echo stuff but I don't have one, though I did install the Alexa app for Windows 10. Anyway, if anybody has any info on accessibility, I'd surely appreciate it. I figured I'd ask here because if it's not accessible for some reason then I won't bother with it.




Re: For Joseph ... How different is NVDA different than Jaws?

Howard Traxler <howard@...>
 

Thank you very much.  I'll go get 'em.

Howard

On 12/23/2018 11:37 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
Tutorials: it is free, audio, and can be downloaded from:
https://www.josephsl.net/tutorials
Note that the tutorial goes over NVDA 2018.1, which, by today's standards, is out of date. However, most of what I describe in there is applicable in 2018.4.
Note that the tutorial I produced over the years is considered a third-party effort; there is a collection of tutorials from NV Access (cheap, by the way) that does go over NVDA. More recent additions include using NVDA with Word and other Office applications.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Howard Traxler
Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2018 9:15 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] For Joseph ... How different is NVDA different than Jaws?

Hello Joseph. I'd like to know about your NVDA tutorial. What does it cost and is it audio or text? Is it downloadable? I sure need to learn more about the different review modes in NVDA.


Thanks.

Howard

On 12/23/2018 10:53 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
If you're coming from JAWS to NVDA, object navigation may sound
similar to touch cursor from JAWS. In fact, they are really the same.
You can't navigate freely via JAWS cursor, or in terms of NVDA, a
combination of review cursor and screen review in more recent apps.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2018 8:40 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] How different is NVDA different than Jaws? ...
JAWS cursor

My most difficult issue with NVDA is understanding object view. I
struggle to move freely around the screen the way the JAWS cursor often does.











Re: nvda/tablet is working again

molly the blind tech lover
 

Thanks.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Travis Siegel
Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2018 4:38 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda/tablet is working again

Actually, alcohol isn't a good choice, as it leaves residue that can cause problems later. Use peroxide, when it evaporates, it doesn't leave any residue, and it cleans just as well.


On Sat, 22 Dec 2018, molly the blind tech lover wrote:


You have to use rubbing alcohol to clean the magnetic pins on the keyboard.
Then clean the connectors on the bottom of the machine.



Re: Want to resume chkdsk

 

On Sun, Dec 23, 2018 at 12:08 AM, farhan israk wrote:
I use Windows 10 1803. Is it possible to pause chkdsk, shut down computer and resume after turning on computer?
No, but it is possible to force Windows to run it the next time you restart the machine before Windows loads, and it tends to run more quickly that way anyway.

In a command prompt (or PowerShell, I think) session with admin privileges, issue the command chkdsk /r
At that point you will get a response back saying the drive cannot be locked because files on it are in use but that it will be scanned when the computer is next restarted.  I tend to do this sort of thing just before I'm walking away from the computer until tomorrow, then restart it.  The chkdsk /r (which locates bad sectors, if any, and recovers any readable information from them) also performs all the functions associated with the /f  (fix) switch as well, so it's not necessary.

If it so happens that the drive you want to check is not your main drive that Windows and user data you need to get to at the moment is on, you could choose to switch over to that drive in the command prompt session, which one does simply by typing the drive letter with a colon, e.g., L:, and hitting enter, you could use chkdsk /x /r
The /x  switch forces the drive to be dismounted immediately, closing all open files/folders, and allowing an offline scan to occur on that drive while the rest of the system is still up and running and also includes the functionality of the /f switch, making it unnecessary.  If you want the check to include checking for bad sectors and recovering any readable data you must include a /r switch along with /x to make that happen, too. 

Some will feel more comfortable, regardless of the specific switches on chkdsk they're using, with including the volume as part of the command itself.  That takes the format chkdsk X: {switches}, where X is the drive letter itself and the colon must follow it without any intervening space.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

          ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back

 

 


Re: How different is NVDA different than Jaws? ... JAWS cursor

molly the blind tech lover
 

Hi.
I think I understand. I used to have a mac not much bigger than my surface laptop. When I used VoiceOver I had to use the VoiceOver key and the down arrow key to interact with an object. It's been at least 3 years since I've used a mac, but I'm pretty sure that's how it worked.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Travis Siegel
Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2018 4:06 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] How different is NVDA different than Jaws? ... JAWS cursor

For those who have used a mac and their screen reader voice over, you'll find object navigation very similar to how the mac presents objects. A screen is made up of objects, and interacting with said objects gets you more detailed views of what's going on. Each level is independent of the other levels, and each level has different information in it. The simplest way to describe this is by using shelves analogy. When you first open the book hself, you are presented with a series of shelves from top to bottom. The top shelf may have paperbacks, the second shelf may have hardbacks, and so on. Selecting the first shelf then allows you to select what kind of book you want to read, fantasy, scifi, romance, and so on.
Once you interact with the particular genre you want, then you can select a title to read, and after selecting that title, then you can see the contents of the book, which itself may be broken up into chapters, and those chapters into paragraphs, which inturn are broken up into sentences, and so on. You get the idea. Object navigation is nothing more than a method of breaking up the screen into contituent parts, so that you can get to information faster, (once you know how things are organized).

On Sun, 23 Dec 2018, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hi,
In order to understand how object navigation works, it is helpful to get an overview of how things are laid out on screen. Effectively, when you use this mode, you're navigating in and out of various controls on screen (hierarchy, if you will).
I'll wait for more requests before writing a slightly more thorough tutorial on object navigation (I think I did this before, but can't remember quite well at the moment due to volume of changes since than and in the midst of preparing for Christmas festivities).
Cheers,
Joseph

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I'd surely appreciate that. I too have a problem understanding Object navigation as I was a 18 year user of Window Eyes. Thank You.

On 12/23/2018 8:58 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,

If people want, I’m willing to “transcribe” object navigation portion
of my tutorial series or do a more thorough write up.

Cheers,

Joseph

*From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of
*David Goldfield
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*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] How different is NVDA different than Jaws? ...
JAWS cursor

Ann,

I can well relate to this struggle with object navigation. When I
first started using NVDA in 2009 I had been a user of JAWS since version 1.0.
At that time, object navigation was so confusing that I felt that I
had to turn my mind inside out just to get a grip on it and, for a
while, I pretty much ignored the capability. I just used the standard
arrow keys to navigate and was pretty content doing so.

A few things turned me around, however. First, understanding the
Mac's method of interacting with windows within windows or controls
within a window helped as the concepts, to me, were similar. And,
while I don't want to turn this into a JAWS vs NVDA debate, the fact
is that object navigation on the numeric keypad will allow you to
explore certain program windows that the JAWS cursor just doesn't
see, especially in Windows 10. When I was training new users in how
to use NVDA I know that some of them would never have been able to deal with object navigation.
However, pressing insert-7 (on the number pad) to put NVDA into flat
review mode may work for a lot of people, even though this mode may
not work for all windows. Within this mode and even in the standard
review mode the number pad commands may be more intuitive with 7, 8
and 9 for previous, current and next line, 4, 5 and 6 for previous,
current and next word and 1, 2 and 3 for previous, current and next
character. This feels very comfortable for me since ASAP, a screen
reader I used in the DOS days, used the same commands for its review capability.

David Goldfield, Assistive Technology Specialist
WWW.David-Goldfield.Com <http://WWW.David-Goldfield.Com>

On 12/23/2018 11:40 AM, Ann Byrne wrote:

My most difficult issue with NVDA is understanding object view. I
struggle to move freely around the screen the way the JAWS cursor
often does.









Re: nvda/tablet is working again

Travis Siegel <tsiegel@...>
 

Actually, alcohol isn't a good choice, as it leaves residue that can cause problems later. Use peroxide, when it evaporates, it doesn't leave any residue, and it cleans just as well.

On Sat, 22 Dec 2018, molly the blind tech lover wrote:

You have to use rubbing alcohol to clean the magnetic pins on the keyboard.
Then clean the connectors on the bottom of the machine.