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Re: CAPTCHA AND KEYBOARD SETTINGS

Andy
 


This depends on the kind of CAPTCHA.  If it is a Recaptcha, often checking the box that says "I'm not a robot" will be sufficient.  Sometimes this doesn't work, but it often works if you use the Chrome browser.
 
Andy
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2018 12:25 AM
Subject: [nvda] CAPTCHA AND KEYBOARD SETTINGS

Hello, I’m Steve and just started using this group this morning so happy Christmas to one and all.

 

Firstly I ave two issues:

 

I need to fill in a captcha for my Itunes account. I live on my own and am deafblind. What’s the easiest way to fill in captchas using NVDA please?

 

Secondly my keyboard using NVDA is reading every single character. How do I change this to reading words and numbers for example? As a supplementary from that, if needing to press the NVDA key ie  the big key on keypad, how does one do this if you also have other keys to press? I cannot use either caps lock or the bottom left key above the cursor keys t as these are used for other things?

 

Sorry I don’t use cameras so haven’t got a picture yet and also apologies that this email has been long.

 

Thanks, Steve

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


CAPTCHA AND KEYBOARD SETTINGS

Stephen Thacker
 

Hello, I’m Steve and just started using this group this morning so happy Christmas to one and all.

 

Firstly I ave two issues:

 

I need to fill in a captcha for my Itunes account. I live on my own and am deafblind. What’s the easiest way to fill in captchas using NVDA please?

 

Secondly my keyboard using NVDA is reading every single character. How do I change this to reading words and numbers for example? As a supplementary from that, if needing to press the NVDA key ie  the big key on keypad, how does one do this if you also have other keys to press? I cannot use either caps lock or the bottom left key above the cursor keys t as these are used for other things?

 

Sorry I don’t use cameras so haven’t got a picture yet and also apologies that this email has been long.

 

Thanks, Steve

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


Re: Merry Christmas and a happy time whatever yourfaithandcreed

Maria Reyes <blindteky@...>
 

Hi all 
Hope you had a amazing Christmas. I haven't opened presents but I will report what I got later. 

Maria
Want to talk all about blind technology? 
Join the tech4theblind group: tech4theblind+subscribe@groups.io
Have an Apple product? Join the Apple411 group to discuss the iPhone, iPad, and Mac. From experienced to new users. 

On Dec 26, 2018, at 2:25 AM, Shaun Everiss <sm.everiss@...> wrote:

Hmmm that is different.

I have got some molds like this for a birthday present to use with ice cubes, as yet I havn't used them though.



On 12/26/2018 3:45 PM, molly the blind tech lover wrote:
I had crab and stuffed mushrooms. The crab was in the shape of a baseball. It tasted very good.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shaun Everiss
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 9:30 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Merry Christmas and a happy time whatever yourfaithandcreed

Well taking the christmas thing to a slightly new tangent while we can talk about such things, anyone had any new interesting weird but still christmas themed food this year.

For me, it was christmas mince pies, which were quite large almost like small muffins.

Half the filling was the standard christmas mince, but the rest was lemon jam and honey, and those were served hot.

I never thought about having jam on my pies, its actually quite good.



On 12/26/2018 3:03 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
Hi, Molly,

I just got home from visiting my family and we had a wonderful Christmas.

Rosemarie



Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: molly the blind tech lover
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 5:01 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Merry Christmas and a happy time whatever
yourfaithandcreed

i love spending time with family and friends on christmas.
Get Outlook for Android


From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Ian
Blackburn <ianblackburn@...>
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 7:48:40 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Merry Christmas and a happy time whatever your
faithandcreed
  The best part about Christmas is the Christ I celebrate Regards Ian

On 26 Dec 2018, at 7:56 am, Kwork <istherelife@...> wrote:
Ame, I haven't seen your name in quite a while.
A Merry Christmas to you and everyone else here as well.
Travis
On 12/25/2018 1:16 PM, Ame wrote:
Well said David!  My passion is the one whose birth we celebrate today.  I follow Him but I sometimes fall down on the job.  Good thing He loves me anyway, huh?  Lol  Merry Christmas everybody!
















Re: outlook is working again...

 

If thats the case the machine may be full of dust and need a clear out.

Get a sightling to see if all the fans are spinning right.

I have had bad ram sticks, and faulty cpu fans cause issues, the power supply could also have issues.

Failing that, I'd remove and regrease the heatsink it doesn't hurt to do this from time to time.

On 12/26/2018 4:07 PM, molly the blind tech lover wrote:
Hey guys.

Outlook is working normally again, Temporarily. I think the issue has to do
with the processor on this machine.




Re: having a weird problem with Nvda and microsoft outlook

 

I have had office screw itself over a couple times randomly my guess it was updating or syncing or something when the machine was switched off.

You can run an online repair by choosing modify from the list, hightlight ms office, tab once and you can modify or remove, hit modify and then online repair.

You can try quick but it may not work for you.

A small note though, if you do this, any pinned office icons and desktop shortcuts will be gone till you put them back.

You will also have to put in your product key again But it will fix all the screwed up office pluss it will be the latest updated version of whatever you have.

On 12/26/2018 4:02 PM, molly the blind tech lover wrote:
Well this is confusing.

I went to the add or remove programs setting, and instead of listing the outlook app, it had Microsoft desktop apps, which looked like one big software package, (don’t want to uninstall that because it might uninstall word, powerpoint, etc), or something called My office.

It seems ever since this machine received windows version 17763 it has been a little buggy. I’ll try running outlook in safe mode.

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 9:39 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] having a weird problem with Nvda and microsoft outlook


Hi, Molly,


You can try uninstalling outlook and then reinstall it. Let us know if it works for you.


Rosemarie




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From: molly the blind tech lover <mailto:brainardmolly@...>
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 6:19 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] having a weird problem with Nvda and microsoft outlook


Hey guys, Molly here again.

For some reason when using outlook the past few days, nvda goes silent, and then it says outlook not responding. I then try to close the program after sending email, and then nvda says there are messages waiting in my outbox waiting to be senShould I try reinstalling outlook or something?

Thanks.

Marry Christmas.







Re: Merry Christmas and a happy time whatever yourfaithandcreed

 

Hmmm that is different.

I have got some molds like this for a birthday present to use with ice cubes, as yet I havn't used them though.

On 12/26/2018 3:45 PM, molly the blind tech lover wrote:
I had crab and stuffed mushrooms. The crab was in the shape of a baseball. It tasted very good.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shaun Everiss
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 9:30 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Merry Christmas and a happy time whatever yourfaithandcreed

Well taking the christmas thing to a slightly new tangent while we can talk about such things, anyone had any new interesting weird but still christmas themed food this year.

For me, it was christmas mince pies, which were quite large almost like small muffins.

Half the filling was the standard christmas mince, but the rest was lemon jam and honey, and those were served hot.

I never thought about having jam on my pies, its actually quite good.



On 12/26/2018 3:03 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
Hi, Molly,

I just got home from visiting my family and we had a wonderful Christmas.

Rosemarie



Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: molly the blind tech lover
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 5:01 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Merry Christmas and a happy time whatever
yourfaithandcreed

i love spending time with family and friends on christmas.
Get Outlook for Android


From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Ian
Blackburn <ianblackburn@...>
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 7:48:40 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Merry Christmas and a happy time whatever your
faithandcreed
The best part about Christmas is the Christ I celebrate Regards Ian

On 26 Dec 2018, at 7:56 am, Kwork <istherelife@...> wrote:
Ame, I haven't seen your name in quite a while.
A Merry Christmas to you and everyone else here as well.
Travis
On 12/25/2018 1:16 PM, Ame wrote:
Well said David! My passion is the one whose birth we celebrate today. I follow Him but I sometimes fall down on the job. Good thing He loves me anyway, huh? Lol Merry Christmas everybody!










Re: I am really loving Nvda's object navigation

Gene
 

It can't be used everywhere but there are times when it is the most easy and intuitive way to move around a screen.  I may write some information about review mode tomorrow.  I don't think it will require much explanation.  I don't know what Lee already wrote about it in the tutorial he did.  I may see if I have it and give the topic for people to listen to.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Joseph Lee
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 8:58 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] I am really loving Nvda's object navigation

Hi all,

For anyone wishing to write a tutorial or two on review modes, I highly recommend going over what review cursor is, how it works and how it can be used before talking about three different review modes/scopes (object, document, screen). Also, please don’t tell people that screen review can be used everywhere – I and others have given countless proofs to the contrary.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 6:52 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I am really loving Nvda's object navigation

 

I’ll try checking the user guide too.

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: molly the blind tech lover
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 4:02 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I am really loving Nvda's object navigation

 

Hi.

I’ll have to try screen review. Although I must to admit, I don’t know how to use it. I’ll check out the Nvda user guide.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 12:56 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I am really loving Nvda's object navigation

 

Hi, Molly,

 

I think screen review is a way to get around the screen when you can’t do it with just regular keystrokes.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: molly the blind tech lover
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 9:53 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I am really loving Nvda's object navigation

 

Hey guys?

What is screen review? I’ve never heard of it.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 12:47 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I am really loving Nvda's object navigation

 

I never use screen review, I alwyas use object nav as for me I can get around and skip windows I don't want to see. the laptop layout even though I'm using a full sized keyboard as it just feels more like mac os for me.

On 25 Dec 2018, at 7:11, Gene wrote:

I don't use apps because I don't use versions of Windows newer than Windows 7.  But in standard applications, screen review, the equivalent of the JAWS cursor, can be more convenient and intuitive.  I don't know how many people following this thread use screen review but I think they both should be known.

 

Screen review is very easy to explain in terms of how you switch to it and use it and I will discuss it if people want to know.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Joseph Lee

Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 8:56 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] I am really loving Nvda's object navigation

 

Hi,

As I said multiple times before, screen review won’t work in newer apps, but I do agree that in some cases, screen review is helpful for some tasks.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 6:55 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I am really loving Nvda's object navigation

 

However, there are times when screen review provides access to the same things and is more convenient to use.  Object navigation can provide access to things at times that screen review can't. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Joseph Lee

Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 8:47 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] I am really loving Nvda's object navigation

 

Hi,

One important thing to remember: I recommend using object navigation for cases where you can’t navigate with a keyboard. Object navigation commands (and for that matter, Golden Cursor add-on) won’t replace the value of using keyboard commands (let’s not go into Golden Cursor add-on, as it is way different than object navigation). Part of what makes NvDA useful (or for that matter, any screen reader useful) is distinguishing when different methods are appropriate.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of molly the blind tech lover
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 6:09 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I am really loving Nvda's object navigation

 

Hi.

Happy holidays.

I’ve not tried the golden cursor yet, but it sounds interesting. My goal is to be able to use object navigation in all my favorite apps, word, outlook, etc. It’ll probably make navigating them much easier. It really is neat.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 2:17 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I am really loving Nvda's object navigation

 

Yes!

That is why I love NVDA so much!

You can get to every element on the screen whether it be a toolbar, a button on the toolbar, or what ever!

It is beautiful to have the Golden cursor add-on to navigate with the mouse as well!

Go NVDA!

Have a great holiday everyone!

 

                                                                                                                                                                                                                Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: molly the blind tech lover
Sent: Monday, December 24, 2018 9:12 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] I am really loving Nvda's object navigation

 

Hey guys, Molly here again.

I just like to say that I really like Nvda’s way of navigating objects. It is great to be able to press Nvda plus shift and the arrow keys to explore items on the screen I never thought were there. I am fascinated by how it works. It actually reminds me of how VoiceOver works on the Mac, but I don’t want to get in to that.

Anyway, it’s very cool.

Happy Holidays

 

 

 

 


Re: having a weird problem with Nvda and microsoft outlook

Gene
 

You can try it but I wouldn't do it until there has been a reasonable amount more discussion.  You may just be doing busy work. 
 
Exactly when does the problem occur?  Does itt occur when you run the program or do you do something after you run it?  Try disconnecting from the Internet and see if the same thing happens.  The inbox may be corrupted.  If this problem doesn't happen after you disconnect from the Internet, then something may have a problem involved in downloading messages. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 8:39 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] having a weird problem with Nvda and microsoft outlook

Hi, Molly,

 

You can try uninstalling outlook and then reinstall it. Let us know if it works for you.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: molly the blind tech lover
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 6:19 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] having a weird problem with Nvda and microsoft outlook

 

Hey guys, Molly here again.

For some reason when  using  outlook the past few days,  nvda goes silent, and then it says outlook not responding. I then try to close the program after sending email, and then nvda says there are messages waiting in my outbox waiting to be senShould I try reinstalling outlook or something?

Thanks.

Marry Christmas.

 


Re: can't remember how to put the mail app on my desktop

David Moore
 

Hi all!

With Win10, here is how you put apps on the desktop, or at least a short cut for them LOL:

First, press Windows key+R to open the run dialog!

Then, type the following:

shell:appsfolder

And press enter.

Now, you will be in a list of all apps.

Just find mail in the list, and press shift+F10 or applications key.

Arrow down to create short cut.

Press enter, and you will hear:

Cannot create short cut here, would like to add this to the desktop?

Just press enter on yes, and the app will be put on the desktop.

It is a lot different putting a short cut to an app on the desktop than a traditional short cut for a computer program like MS Word, for example!

Have a great one!

David Moore

 

                                                                                                                                                                                                                Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 9:01 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] can't remember how to put the mail app on my desktop

 

Hi, everyone,

 

I tried putting the mail app on the desktop with shift f-10 and I got just five things: Unpin from start, unpin from start, share, rate and I forgot what the other one was. How do I put the mail app on my desktop?

 

Thanks for your help in advance.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

 


Re: still having tablet issues

Travis Siegel <tsiegel@...>
 

You don't have to run your finger all over the screen looking for the send button, you can simply swipe with one finger to the right or left until you find it.  Alternatively, you can use the router, and select buttons, then it will allow you to go straight to it. I don't use the router much, I usually swipte or two finger up/down to get to pieces of the screen I need.

On 12/25/2018 9:47 AM, Giles Turnbull wrote:
I have a Surface Pro 4 and admit I've never used it as a touch screen device. I plug a USB wifi dongle in that is for a Logitech wireless keyboard.
I've never been good with touch screens ... even on my iPhone it takes me ages of running my finger around the screen to find the send button if I need to send a message.


Re: outlook is working again...

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi, Molly,

 

You might have to call the Microsoft disability line number and have them help you if outlook acts up again.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: molly the blind tech lover
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 7:42 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] outlook is working again...

 

me too. it'll act up again. or the screen will freeze. but actually this machine is predictable. it will work fine for weeks, and all of a sudden... still ike this machine though.

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@...>
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 10:29:33 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] outlook is working again...

 

I’m glad outlook is working normally again for now. Let us know if it acts up again.

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: molly the blind tech lover
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 7:07 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] outlook is working again...

 

Hey guys.

Outlook is working normally again, Temporarily. I think the issue has to do with  the processor on this machine.

 

 


Re: outlook is working again...

molly the blind tech lover
 

me too. it'll act up again. or the screen will freeze. but actually this machine is predictable. it will work fine for weeks, and all of a sudden... still ike this machine though.


From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@...>
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 10:29:33 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] outlook is working again...
 

I’m glad outlook is working normally again for now. Let us know if it acts up again.

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: molly the blind tech lover
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 7:07 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] outlook is working again...

 

Hey guys.

Outlook is working normally again, Temporarily. I think the issue has to do with  the processor on this machine.

 


Re: outlook is working again...

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

I’m glad outlook is working normally again for now. Let us know if it acts up again.

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: molly the blind tech lover
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 7:07 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] outlook is working again...

 

Hey guys.

Outlook is working normally again, Temporarily. I think the issue has to do with  the processor on this machine.

 


Re: I am really loving Nvda's object navigation

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Mendoza
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 7:07 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I am really loving Nvda's object navigation

 

Speaking of I dig around in the Users guide about screen review.

I found this here is the snippets below.

5.6.3. Screen Review

The screen review mode allows you to review the text of the screen as it appears visually within the current application. This is similar to the screen review or mouse cursor functionality in many other Windows screen readers.
When switching to screen review mode, the review cursor is placed at the screen position of the current navigator object. When moving around the screen with review commands, the navigator object is automatically updated to the object found at the screen position of the review cursor.
Note that in some newer applications, NVDA may not see some or all text displayed on the screen due to the use of newer screen drawing technologies which are impossible to support at this time.

 

My question is how do you run with this screen review? Care to share how to give details for it. Thanks!

On 12/26/2018 10:51 AM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:

I’ll try checking the user guide too.

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: molly the blind tech lover
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 4:02 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I am really loving Nvda's object navigation

 

Hi.

I’ll have to try screen review. Although I must to admit, I don’t know how to use it. I’ll check out the Nvda user guide.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 12:56 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I am really loving Nvda's object navigation

 

Hi, Molly,

 

I think screen review is a way to get around the screen when you can’t do it with just regular keystrokes.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: molly the blind tech lover
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 9:53 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I am really loving Nvda's object navigation

 

Hey guys?

What is screen review? I’ve never heard of it.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 12:47 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I am really loving Nvda's object navigation

 

I never use screen review, I alwyas use object nav as for me I can get around and skip windows I don't want to see. the laptop layout even though I'm using a full sized keyboard as it just feels more like mac os for me.

On 25 Dec 2018, at 7:11, Gene wrote:

I don't use apps because I don't use versions of Windows newer than Windows 7.  But in standard applications, screen review, the equivalent of the JAWS cursor, can be more convenient and intuitive.  I don't know how many people following this thread use screen review but I think they both should be known.

 

Screen review is very easy to explain in terms of how you switch to it and use it and I will discuss it if people want to know.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Joseph Lee

Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 8:56 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] I am really loving Nvda's object navigation

 

Hi,

As I said multiple times before, screen review won’t work in newer apps, but I do agree that in some cases, screen review is helpful for some tasks.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 6:55 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I am really loving Nvda's object navigation

 

However, there are times when screen review provides access to the same things and is more convenient to use.  Object navigation can provide access to things at times that screen review can't. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Joseph Lee

Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 8:47 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] I am really loving Nvda's object navigation

 

Hi,

One important thing to remember: I recommend using object navigation for cases where you can’t navigate with a keyboard. Object navigation commands (and for that matter, Golden Cursor add-on) won’t replace the value of using keyboard commands (let’s not go into Golden Cursor add-on, as it is way different than object navigation). Part of what makes NvDA useful (or for that matter, any screen reader useful) is distinguishing when different methods are appropriate.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of molly the blind tech lover
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 6:09 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I am really loving Nvda's object navigation

 

Hi.

Happy holidays.

I’ve not tried the golden cursor yet, but it sounds interesting. My goal is to be able to use object navigation in all my favorite apps, word, outlook, etc. It’ll probably make navigating them much easier. It really is neat.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 2:17 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I am really loving Nvda's object navigation

 

Yes!

That is why I love NVDA so much!

You can get to every element on the screen whether it be a toolbar, a button on the toolbar, or what ever!

It is beautiful to have the Golden cursor add-on to navigate with the mouse as well!

Go NVDA!

Have a great holiday everyone!

 

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From: molly the blind tech lover
Sent: Monday, December 24, 2018 9:12 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] I am really loving Nvda's object navigation

 

Hey guys, Molly here again.

I just like to say that I really like Nvda’s way of navigating objects. It is great to be able to press Nvda plus shift and the arrow keys to explore items on the screen I never thought were there. I am fascinated by how it works. It actually reminds me of how VoiceOver works on the Mac, but I don’t want to get in to that.

Anyway, it’s very cool.

Happy Holidays

 

 

 

 


outlook is working again...

molly the blind tech lover
 

Hey guys.

Outlook is working normally again, Temporarily. I think the issue has to do with  the processor on this machine.


Re: I am really loving Nvda's object navigation

Robert Mendoza
 

Speaking of I dig around in the Users guide about screen review.

I found this here is the snippets below.

5.6.3. Screen Review

The screen review mode allows you to review the text of the screen as it appears visually within the current application. This is similar to the screen review or mouse cursor functionality in many other Windows screen readers.
When switching to screen review mode, the review cursor is placed at the screen position of the current navigator object. When moving around the screen with review commands, the navigator object is automatically updated to the object found at the screen position of the review cursor.
Note that in some newer applications, NVDA may not see some or all text displayed on the screen due to the use of newer screen drawing technologies which are impossible to support at this time.


My question is how do you run with this screen review? Care to share how to give details for it. Thanks!

On 12/26/2018 10:51 AM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:

I’ll try checking the user guide too.

 

 

 

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From: molly the blind tech lover
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 4:02 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I am really loving Nvda's object navigation

 

Hi.

I’ll have to try screen review. Although I must to admit, I don’t know how to use it. I’ll check out the Nvda user guide.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 12:56 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I am really loving Nvda's object navigation

 

Hi, Molly,

 

I think screen review is a way to get around the screen when you can’t do it with just regular keystrokes.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

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From: molly the blind tech lover
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 9:53 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I am really loving Nvda's object navigation

 

Hey guys?

What is screen review? I’ve never heard of it.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 12:47 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I am really loving Nvda's object navigation

 

I never use screen review, I alwyas use object nav as for me I can get around and skip windows I don't want to see. the laptop layout even though I'm using a full sized keyboard as it just feels more like mac os for me.

On 25 Dec 2018, at 7:11, Gene wrote:

I don't use apps because I don't use versions of Windows newer than Windows 7.  But in standard applications, screen review, the equivalent of the JAWS cursor, can be more convenient and intuitive.  I don't know how many people following this thread use screen review but I think they both should be known.

 

Screen review is very easy to explain in terms of how you switch to it and use it and I will discuss it if people want to know.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Joseph Lee

Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 8:56 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] I am really loving Nvda's object navigation

 

Hi,

As I said multiple times before, screen review won’t work in newer apps, but I do agree that in some cases, screen review is helpful for some tasks.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 6:55 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I am really loving Nvda's object navigation

 

However, there are times when screen review provides access to the same things and is more convenient to use.  Object navigation can provide access to things at times that screen review can't. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Joseph Lee

Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 8:47 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] I am really loving Nvda's object navigation

 

Hi,

One important thing to remember: I recommend using object navigation for cases where you can’t navigate with a keyboard. Object navigation commands (and for that matter, Golden Cursor add-on) won’t replace the value of using keyboard commands (let’s not go into Golden Cursor add-on, as it is way different than object navigation). Part of what makes NvDA useful (or for that matter, any screen reader useful) is distinguishing when different methods are appropriate.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of molly the blind tech lover
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 6:09 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I am really loving Nvda's object navigation

 

Hi.

Happy holidays.

I’ve not tried the golden cursor yet, but it sounds interesting. My goal is to be able to use object navigation in all my favorite apps, word, outlook, etc. It’ll probably make navigating them much easier. It really is neat.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 2:17 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I am really loving Nvda's object navigation

 

Yes!

That is why I love NVDA so much!

You can get to every element on the screen whether it be a toolbar, a button on the toolbar, or what ever!

It is beautiful to have the Golden cursor add-on to navigate with the mouse as well!

Go NVDA!

Have a great holiday everyone!

 

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From: molly the blind tech lover
Sent: Monday, December 24, 2018 9:12 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] I am really loving Nvda's object navigation

 

Hey guys, Molly here again.

I just like to say that I really like Nvda’s way of navigating objects. It is great to be able to press Nvda plus shift and the arrow keys to explore items on the screen I never thought were there. I am fascinated by how it works. It actually reminds me of how VoiceOver works on the Mac, but I don’t want to get in to that.

Anyway, it’s very cool.

Happy Holidays

 

 

 

 


Re: having a weird problem with Nvda and microsoft outlook

molly the blind tech lover
 

Well this is confusing.

I went to the add or remove programs setting, and instead of listing the outlook app, it had Microsoft desktop apps, which looked like one big software package, (don’t want to uninstall that because it might uninstall word, powerpoint, etc), or something called My office.

It seems ever since this machine received windows version 17763 it has been a little buggy. I’ll try running outlook in safe mode.

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 9:39 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] having a weird problem with Nvda and microsoft outlook

 

Hi, Molly,

 

You can try uninstalling outlook and then reinstall it. Let us know if it works for you.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

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From: molly the blind tech lover
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 6:19 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] having a weird problem with Nvda and microsoft outlook

 

Hey guys, Molly here again.

For some reason when  using  outlook the past few days,  nvda goes silent, and then it says outlook not responding. I then try to close the program after sending email, and then nvda says there are messages waiting in my outbox waiting to be senShould I try reinstalling outlook or something?

Thanks.

Marry Christmas.

 


Re: I am really loving Nvda's object navigation

 

Hi all,

For anyone wishing to write a tutorial or two on review modes, I highly recommend going over what review cursor is, how it works and how it can be used before talking about three different review modes/scopes (object, document, screen). Also, please don’t tell people that screen review can be used everywhere – I and others have given countless proofs to the contrary.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 6:52 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I am really loving Nvda's object navigation

 

I’ll try checking the user guide too.

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: molly the blind tech lover
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 4:02 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I am really loving Nvda's object navigation

 

Hi.

I’ll have to try screen review. Although I must to admit, I don’t know how to use it. I’ll check out the Nvda user guide.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 12:56 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I am really loving Nvda's object navigation

 

Hi, Molly,

 

I think screen review is a way to get around the screen when you can’t do it with just regular keystrokes.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: molly the blind tech lover
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 9:53 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I am really loving Nvda's object navigation

 

Hey guys?

What is screen review? I’ve never heard of it.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 12:47 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I am really loving Nvda's object navigation

 

I never use screen review, I alwyas use object nav as for me I can get around and skip windows I don't want to see. the laptop layout even though I'm using a full sized keyboard as it just feels more like mac os for me.

On 25 Dec 2018, at 7:11, Gene wrote:

I don't use apps because I don't use versions of Windows newer than Windows 7.  But in standard applications, screen review, the equivalent of the JAWS cursor, can be more convenient and intuitive.  I don't know how many people following this thread use screen review but I think they both should be known.

 

Screen review is very easy to explain in terms of how you switch to it and use it and I will discuss it if people want to know.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Joseph Lee

Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 8:56 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] I am really loving Nvda's object navigation

 

Hi,

As I said multiple times before, screen review won’t work in newer apps, but I do agree that in some cases, screen review is helpful for some tasks.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 6:55 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I am really loving Nvda's object navigation

 

However, there are times when screen review provides access to the same things and is more convenient to use.  Object navigation can provide access to things at times that screen review can't. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Joseph Lee

Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 8:47 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] I am really loving Nvda's object navigation

 

Hi,

One important thing to remember: I recommend using object navigation for cases where you can’t navigate with a keyboard. Object navigation commands (and for that matter, Golden Cursor add-on) won’t replace the value of using keyboard commands (let’s not go into Golden Cursor add-on, as it is way different than object navigation). Part of what makes NvDA useful (or for that matter, any screen reader useful) is distinguishing when different methods are appropriate.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of molly the blind tech lover
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 6:09 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I am really loving Nvda's object navigation

 

Hi.

Happy holidays.

I’ve not tried the golden cursor yet, but it sounds interesting. My goal is to be able to use object navigation in all my favorite apps, word, outlook, etc. It’ll probably make navigating them much easier. It really is neat.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 2:17 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I am really loving Nvda's object navigation

 

Yes!

That is why I love NVDA so much!

You can get to every element on the screen whether it be a toolbar, a button on the toolbar, or what ever!

It is beautiful to have the Golden cursor add-on to navigate with the mouse as well!

Go NVDA!

Have a great holiday everyone!

 

                                                                                                                                                                                                                Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: molly the blind tech lover
Sent: Monday, December 24, 2018 9:12 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] I am really loving Nvda's object navigation

 

Hey guys, Molly here again.

I just like to say that I really like Nvda’s way of navigating objects. It is great to be able to press Nvda plus shift and the arrow keys to explore items on the screen I never thought were there. I am fascinated by how it works. It actually reminds me of how VoiceOver works on the Mac, but I don’t want to get in to that.

Anyway, it’s very cool.

Happy Holidays

 

 

 

 


Re: I am really loving Nvda's object navigation

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

I’ll try checking the user guide too.

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: molly the blind tech lover
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 4:02 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I am really loving Nvda's object navigation

 

Hi.

I’ll have to try screen review. Although I must to admit, I don’t know how to use it. I’ll check out the Nvda user guide.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 12:56 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I am really loving Nvda's object navigation

 

Hi, Molly,

 

I think screen review is a way to get around the screen when you can’t do it with just regular keystrokes.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: molly the blind tech lover
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 9:53 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I am really loving Nvda's object navigation

 

Hey guys?

What is screen review? I’ve never heard of it.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 12:47 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I am really loving Nvda's object navigation

 

I never use screen review, I alwyas use object nav as for me I can get around and skip windows I don't want to see. the laptop layout even though I'm using a full sized keyboard as it just feels more like mac os for me.

On 25 Dec 2018, at 7:11, Gene wrote:

I don't use apps because I don't use versions of Windows newer than Windows 7.  But in standard applications, screen review, the equivalent of the JAWS cursor, can be more convenient and intuitive.  I don't know how many people following this thread use screen review but I think they both should be known.

 

Screen review is very easy to explain in terms of how you switch to it and use it and I will discuss it if people want to know.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Joseph Lee

Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 8:56 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] I am really loving Nvda's object navigation

 

Hi,

As I said multiple times before, screen review won’t work in newer apps, but I do agree that in some cases, screen review is helpful for some tasks.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 6:55 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I am really loving Nvda's object navigation

 

However, there are times when screen review provides access to the same things and is more convenient to use.  Object navigation can provide access to things at times that screen review can't. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Joseph Lee

Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 8:47 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] I am really loving Nvda's object navigation

 

Hi,

One important thing to remember: I recommend using object navigation for cases where you can’t navigate with a keyboard. Object navigation commands (and for that matter, Golden Cursor add-on) won’t replace the value of using keyboard commands (let’s not go into Golden Cursor add-on, as it is way different than object navigation). Part of what makes NvDA useful (or for that matter, any screen reader useful) is distinguishing when different methods are appropriate.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of molly the blind tech lover
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 6:09 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I am really loving Nvda's object navigation

 

Hi.

Happy holidays.

I’ve not tried the golden cursor yet, but it sounds interesting. My goal is to be able to use object navigation in all my favorite apps, word, outlook, etc. It’ll probably make navigating them much easier. It really is neat.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 2:17 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I am really loving Nvda's object navigation

 

Yes!

That is why I love NVDA so much!

You can get to every element on the screen whether it be a toolbar, a button on the toolbar, or what ever!

It is beautiful to have the Golden cursor add-on to navigate with the mouse as well!

Go NVDA!

Have a great holiday everyone!

 

                                                                                                                                                                                                                Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: molly the blind tech lover
Sent: Monday, December 24, 2018 9:12 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] I am really loving Nvda's object navigation

 

Hey guys, Molly here again.

I just like to say that I really like Nvda’s way of navigating objects. It is great to be able to press Nvda plus shift and the arrow keys to explore items on the screen I never thought were there. I am fascinated by how it works. It actually reminds me of how VoiceOver works on the Mac, but I don’t want to get in to that.

Anyway, it’s very cool.

Happy Holidays

 

 

 

 


Re: having a weird problem with Nvda and microsoft outlook

molly the blind tech lover
 

Hi.

Thanks. I’ll try that.

This tablet… It lags, and yesterday outlook crashed  when I tried to use the emoji panel.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 9:39 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] having a weird problem with Nvda and microsoft outlook

 

Hi, Molly,

 

You can try uninstalling outlook and then reinstall it. Let us know if it works for you.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: molly the blind tech lover
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 6:19 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] having a weird problem with Nvda and microsoft outlook

 

Hey guys, Molly here again.

For some reason when  using  outlook the past few days,  nvda goes silent, and then it says outlook not responding. I then try to close the program after sending email, and then nvda says there are messages waiting in my outbox waiting to be senShould I try reinstalling outlook or something?

Thanks.

Marry Christmas.