Hello,

Can either Libre Office and/or Open Office read from or save to .docx
files so that I can collaborate with colleagues who use later versions
of word?

Thanks.
Dave.


On 12/26/18, Dave Grossoehme <dave@...> wrote:

Good Afternoon:  What version of Libre Office, and/or open office are
you referenceing in your comment?

Dave


On 12/26/2018 9:55 AM, Brian Vogel wrote:

Kelby,

            Would you mind elaborating on what the accessibility
issues are with LibreOffice and OpenOffice?   These are almost
universally recommended as accessible options when Word is not
available, and this is the first I've heard anyone state there are
issues with them.

             Also, what version of Word are you using?   That can make
a huge difference in its behavior.   Also, on what Windows platform?
--

Brian *-*Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763

*/A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the
need for illusion is deep./*

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----- Original Message -----

From: molly the blind tech lover

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 5:02 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] I am really loving Nvda's object navigation

Hi.

I’ll have to try screen review. Although I must to admit, I don’t know how to use it. I’ll check out the Nvda user guide.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 12:56 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I am really loving Nvda's object navigation

 

Hi, Molly,

 

I think screen review is a way to get around the screen when you can’t do it with just regular keystrokes.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

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From: molly the blind tech lover
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 9:53 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I am really loving Nvda's object navigation

 

Hey guys?

What is screen review? I’ve never heard of it.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 12:47 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I am really loving Nvda's object navigation

 

I never use screen review, I alwyas use object nav as for me I can get around and skip windows I don't want to see. the laptop layout even though I'm using a full sized keyboard as it just feels more like mac os for me.

On 25 Dec 2018, at 7:11, Gene wrote:

I don't use apps because I don't use versions of Windows newer than Windows 7.  But in standard applications, screen review, the equivalent of the JAWS cursor, can be more convenient and intuitive.  I don't know how many people following this thread use screen review but I think they both should be known.

 

Screen review is very easy to explain in terms of how you switch to it and use it and I will discuss it if people want to know.

 

Gene

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Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Joseph Lee

Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 8:56 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] I am really loving Nvda's object navigation

 

Hi,

As I said multiple times before, screen review won’t work in newer apps, but I do agree that in some cases, screen review is helpful for some tasks.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 6:55 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I am really loving Nvda's object navigation

 

However, there are times when screen review provides access to the same things and is more convenient to use.  Object navigation can provide access to things at times that screen review can't. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Joseph Lee

Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 8:47 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] I am really loving Nvda's object navigation

 

Hi,

One important thing to remember: I recommend using object navigation for cases where you can’t navigate with a keyboard. Object navigation commands (and for that matter, Golden Cursor add-on) won’t replace the value of using keyboard commands (let’s not go into Golden Cursor add-on, as it is way different than object navigation). Part of what makes NvDA useful (or for that matter, any screen reader useful) is distinguishing when different methods are appropriate.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of molly the blind tech lover
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 6:09 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I am really loving Nvda's object navigation

 

Hi.

Happy holidays.

I’ve not tried the golden cursor yet, but it sounds interesting. My goal is to be able to use object navigation in all my favorite apps, word, outlook, etc. It’ll probably make navigating them much easier. It really is neat.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 2:17 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I am really loving Nvda's object navigation

 

Yes!

That is why I love NVDA so much!

You can get to every element on the screen whether it be a toolbar, a button on the toolbar, or what ever!

It is beautiful to have the Golden cursor add-on to navigate with the mouse as well!

Go NVDA!

Have a great holiday everyone!

 

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From: molly the blind tech lover
Sent: Monday, December 24, 2018 9:12 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] I am really loving Nvda's object navigation

 

Hey guys, Molly here again.

I just like to say that I really like Nvda’s way of navigating objects. It is great to be able to press Nvda plus shift and the arrow keys to explore items on the screen I never thought were there. I am fascinated by how it works. It actually reminds me of how VoiceOver works on the Mac, but I don’t want to get in to that.

Anyway, it’s very cool.

Happy Holidays

 

 

 

Good Afternoon:  What version of Libre Office, and/or open office are
you referenceing in your comment?

Dave


On 12/26/2018 9:55 AM, Brian Vogel wrote:

Kelby,

            Would you mind elaborating on what the accessibility
issues are with LibreOffice and OpenOffice?   These are almost
universally recommended as accessible options when Word is not
available, and this is the first I've heard anyone state there are
issues with them.

             Also, what version of Word are you using?   That can make
a huge difference in its behavior.   Also, on what Windows platform?
--

Brian *-*Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763

*/A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the
need for illusion is deep./*

          ~ Saul Bellow, /To Jerusalem and Back/

Kelby,

            Would you mind elaborating on what the accessibility issues are with LibreOffice and OpenOffice?   These are almost universally recommended as accessible options when Word is not available, and this is the first I've heard anyone state there are issues with them.

             Also, what version of Word are you using?   That can make a huge difference in its behavior.   Also, on what Windows platform?
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

          ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back

 

 

Hi,
Actually, for Outlook problem, it might not be the processor at all. There
was an issue discussed not long ago where if you open a certain message (or
messages formatted in certain way) in Outlook with NVDA running, Outlook
would crash. I'm thinking you may have encountered that one.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of molly the blind
tech lover
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2018 12:06 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] outlook is working again...

Well just that this machine is slow sometimes.
I know of other people who have this exact same model and most of them say
the processor is slow and lags a bit. I don't have this problem on my other
machine.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Antony Stone
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2018 2:53 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] outlook is working again...

What information made you believe that the processor was the problem?

Antony.

On Wednesday 26 December 2018 at 04:07:44, molly the blind tech lover wrote:

> Hey guys.
>
> Outlook is working normally again, Temporarily. I think the issue has
> to do with  the processor on this machine.

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Hey guys.

Outlook is working normally again, Temporarily. I think the issue has
to do with the processor on this machine.

Hey guys.

Outlook is working normally again, Temporarily. I think the issue has
to do with the processor on this machine.

Hey guys.

Outlook is working normally again, Temporarily. I think the issue has
to do with the processor on this machine.

Hey guys.

Outlook is working normally again, Temporarily. I think the issue has
to do with the processor on this machine.

Hey guys.

Outlook is working normally again, Temporarily. I think the issue has
to do with the processor on this machine.

Hey guys.

Outlook is working normally again, Temporarily. I think the issue has to do
with the processor on this machine.

Hey guys.

Outlook is working normally again, Temporarily. I think the issue has to do with  the processor on this machine.