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Re: Graphics that contain links
Gene
The button is on the web page of the petition you
want to send.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Peter Beasley
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2018 8:38 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Graphics that contain links I can’t find any button. I am using Windows mail
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From: Chris via
Groups.Io
Look for the sign button rather than a graphic, it works fine
From: Peter
Beasley
There is a petition site here in the UK called 38 degrees. Until a couple of months ago, there was no problem clicking on links to sign petitions. They have changed the link to a graphic. What it says is graphic wrecked angle contains link. I am unable to find a way to activate these links using NVDA which is my only screen reader..
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Re: Graphics that contain links
Chris
Ahh, I thought you meant the site itself Try going to the website rather than using email links
From: Peter Beasley
Sent: 27 December 2018 14:38 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Graphics that contain links
I can’t find any button. I am using Windows mail
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From: Chris via Groups.Io
Look for the sign button rather than a graphic, it works fine
From: Peter Beasley
There is a petition site here in the UK called 38 degrees. Until a couple of months ago, there was no problem clicking on links to sign petitions. They have changed the link to a graphic. What it says is graphic wrecked angle contains link. I am unable to find a way to activate these links using NVDA which is my only screen reader..
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Re: Graphics that contain links
Peter Beasley
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From: Chris via Groups.Io
Sent: 27 December 2018 14:18 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Graphics that contain links
Look for the sign button rather than a graphic, it works fine
From: Peter Beasley
There is a petition site here in the UK called 38 degrees. Until a couple of months ago, there was no problem clicking on links to sign petitions. They have changed the link to a graphic. What it says is graphic wrecked angle contains link. I am unable to find a way to activate these links using NVDA which is my only screen reader..
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Re: more and more unlabeled links with latest version of NVDA and Firefox
Gene
We don't know if the problem occurs in other places
than the elements list. However, It is unlikely that this problem is
confined to the elements list. it probably affects the links wherever you
see them.
Gene
----- original Message -----
From: Chris via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2018 8:21 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] more and more unlabeled links with latest
version of NVDA and Firefox Don’t use the elements list then its that simple
From: Brian
Vogel
On Thu, Dec 27, 2018 at 04:04 AM, Chris wrote:
Uh, they show up in the elements list of links as
"unlabeled." It's that simple. Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763 A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep. ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back
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Re: more and more unlabeled links with latest version of NVDA and Firefox
Gene
But no one has said that they tested any of these
sites using older versions of NVDA where the links were read. I have older
versions here. If someone will send specific pages where such problems
occur, they can be checked by me and/or others.
At this point, we don't know if the problem is the
sites, which may or may not have changed, or NVDA, which may or may not have
changed.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Mallard
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2018 8:07 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] more and more unlabeled links with latest
version of NVDA and Firefox I do find such links more and more often too, but my understanding was that this issue was due to the type of template the site designers or webmasters used to build the sites. There are lots of sites (a growing number, I'd say), where you hear "Link", "Link", "Link", but you have to click on them to discover where they take you. It definitely isn't a Firefox issue, as I find the very same situation in Chrome. Ciao, Ollie Il 27/12/2018 10:40, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io ha scritto: > Whenever funny things occur its often a good thing to have a pristine > portable copy of nvda with no add ons in it to check against before > bringing up an issue that might be a clash of add ons or settings > choices too. > Brian > > bglists@... > Sent via blueyonder. > Please address personal E-mail to:- > briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' > in the display name field. > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris via Groups.Io" > <chrismedley@...> > To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> > Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2018 9:04 AM > Subject: Re: [nvda] more and more unlabeled links with latest version > of NVDA and Firefox > > > Maybe you should clarify by what you mean by unlabelled links??? > > > What links are unlabelled ? > All those sites you mentioned appear to be fine here with latest nvda > 18.4 > > What is nvda not doing for you what its doing for others? > > Or what do you want nvda to do ? > > > > From: Governor staten > Sent: 27 December 2018 03:48 > To: nvda@nvda.groups.io > Subject: [nvda] more and more unlabeled links with latest version of > NVDA and Firefox > > Hello list. My subject line aptly describes the issue. Recently, I’ve > seen more sites with unlabeled links than I’ve seen in recent memory, > or ever before. I’ve seen them on paypal.com, yetcast.simplecast.fm > Simplecast.com, and other places. Why is this? I’m using latest > version of NVDA with latest version of Firefox, version 64. Will have > to do more testing to see if this occurs in Edge and Chrome. Any ideas > as to how to troubleshoot would be appreciated. > > An extra point of information, I am running the latest alpha. My > roommate is running the latest stable version, 2018.4, along with same > version of Firefox. He is seeing some of the same things I am, > particularly on Simplecast.com and yetcast.simplecast.fm. Thanks to > all in advance for any assistance that can be given. > > > > > > > > > >
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Re: more and more unlabeled links with latest version of NVDA and Firefox
Chris
Don’t use the elements list then its that simple
From: Brian Vogel
Sent: 27 December 2018 14:00 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] more and more unlabeled links with latest version of NVDA and Firefox
On Thu, Dec 27, 2018 at 04:04 AM, Chris wrote:
Uh, they show up in the elements list of links as "unlabeled." It's that simple. Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763 A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep. ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back
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Re: Graphics that contain links
Chris
Look for the sign button rather than a graphic, it works fine
From: Peter Beasley
Sent: 27 December 2018 12:39 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] Graphics that contain links
There is a petition site here in the UK called 38 degrees. Until a couple of months ago, there was no problem clicking on links to sign petitions. They have changed the link to a graphic. What it says is graphic wrecked angle contains link. I am unable to find a way to activate these links using NVDA which is my only screen reader..
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Re: more and more unlabeled links with latest version of NVDA and Firefox
Mallard
Hey all,
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I do find such links more and more often too, but my understanding was that this issue was due to the type of template the site designers or webmasters used to build the sites. There are lots of sites (a growing number, I'd say), where you hear "Link", "Link", "Link", but you have to click on them to discover where they take you. It definitely isn't a Firefox issue, as I find the very same situation in Chrome. Ciao, Ollie
Il 27/12/2018 10:40, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io ha scritto:
Whenever funny things occur its often a good thing to have a pristine portable copy of nvda with no add ons in it to check against before bringing up an issue that might be a clash of add ons or settings choices too.
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Re: more and more unlabeled links with latest version of NVDA and Firefox
On Thu, Dec 27, 2018 at 04:04 AM, Chris wrote:
Maybe you should clarify by what you mean by unlabelled links???Uh, they show up in the elements list of links as "unlabeled." It's that simple. -- Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763 A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep. ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back
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Re: Best Wordprocesor
Gene
Please do not use vulgarity on the list. The
list has over 1000 members and some of them are likely to find such language
offensive.
Gene, moderator
From: Robert Kingett
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2018 7:06 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Best Wordprocesor You are shit out of luck if you want to do footnotes in a program other than MS Word. The below, though, may be some pages that may help. This will be in markdown, so switch off your text only view.
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Re: Graphics that contain links
Gene
Also, I see the control to sign the petition below
where you enter your information as a button.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Peter Beasley
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2018 6:39 AM
Subject: [nvda] Graphics that contain links There is a petition site here in the UK called 38 degrees. Until a couple of months ago, there was no problem clicking on links to sign petitions. They have changed the link to a graphic. What it says is graphic wrecked angle contains link. I am unable to find a way to activate these links using NVDA which is my only screen reader..
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Re: Graphics that contain links
Gene
Please send the address of a specific page where
you see such a link. I looked at one petition and saw none. I looked
at the entire home page and saw none. Also, what browser are you
using?
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Peter Beasley
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2018 6:39 AM
Subject: [nvda] Graphics that contain links There is a petition site here in the UK called 38 degrees. Until a couple of months ago, there was no problem clicking on links to sign petitions. They have changed the link to a graphic. What it says is graphic wrecked angle contains link. I am unable to find a way to activate these links using NVDA which is my only screen reader..
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Re: Best Wordprocesor
You are shit out of luck if you want to do footnotes in a program other than MS Word. The below, though, may be some pages that may help. This will be in markdown, so switch off your text only view.
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Re: Graphics that contain links
Antony Stone
1. I suspect that rather than saying two words "wrecked angle", it is saying
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the single word "rectangle". 2. Can you give us the URL of a page containing this link so we can investigate for ourselves? 3. Have you tried contacting the owners of the site to tell them about this change and the effect it has on screen readers, to see if they can change it back to something that works again? Antony.
On Thursday 27 December 2018 at 13:39:04, Peter Beasley wrote:
There is a petition site here in the UK called 38 degrees. Until a couple --
"It wouldn't be a good idea to talk about him behind his back in front of him." - murble Please reply to the list; please *don't* CC me.
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Re: outlook is working again...
Ralf Kefferpuetz
When starting Outlook the first time and when using control-Enter the first time Outlook asks you if you want to assign control enter as a hothey to send messages in the future. If you answer NO then it wont send the message. This behavior can be cahnged from the Outlook Options under Mail, item: CTRL + ENTER sends a message
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Donnerstag, 27. Dezember 2018 13:09 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] outlook is working again...
It would have been better stated to say that in Windows programs, there is so often more than one way to do the same thing that I'm not too surprised that control enter works as well.
Gene ----- Original Message -----
It is very likely that alt s will work in all those Microsoft programs, except Thunderbird, which isn't a Microsoft program but it would be nice if they made the command available. . I have used Outlook Express and both versions of Windows Live Mail and alt s works in all of them. Control enter may work in all of them as well. While its preference, I prefer the pneumonic alt s command and you can keep your left hand on the home keys and move your right hand less away from them..
Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: Chris Mullins Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2018 3:28 AM Subject: Re: [nvda] outlook is working again...
Hi In all 4 of the email packages I have used Outlook, Gmail, Windows Mail and Thunderbird, ctrl+enter has been the shortcut key combination to send a message.
Cheers Chris
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of marcio via Groups.Io
Just seeing if CTRL/ALT+S does anything as expected. Let's try it.
Cheers, Where to find me: Phone(s): Em 27/12/2018 03:59, Rosemarie Chavarria escreveu:
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Graphics that contain links
Peter Beasley
There is a petition site here in the UK called 38 degrees. Until a couple of months ago, there was no problem clicking on links to sign petitions. They have changed the link to a graphic. What it says is graphic wrecked angle contains link. I am unable to find a way to activate these links using NVDA which is my only screen reader..
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Re: outlook is working again...
Gene
It would have been better stated to say that in
Windows programs, there is so often more than one way to do the same thing that
I'm not too surprised that control enter works as well.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2018 6:06 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] outlook is working again... It is very likely that alt s will work in all those
Microsoft programs, except Thunderbird, which isn't a Microsoft program but
it would be nice if they made the command available. . I have used
Outlook Express and both versions of Windows Live Mail and alt s works in all of
them. Control enter may work in all of them as well. While its
preference, I prefer the pneumonic alt s command and you can keep your left hand
on the home keys and move your right hand less away from them..
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Chris Mullins
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2018 3:28 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] outlook is working again... Hi In all 4 of the email packages I have used Outlook, Gmail, Windows Mail and Thunderbird, ctrl+enter has been the shortcut key combination to send a message.
Cheers Chris
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io
[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
marcio via Groups.Io
Just seeing if CTRL/ALT+S does anything as expected.
Let's try it.
Cheers, Where to find me: Phone(s): Em 27/12/2018 03:59, Rosemarie Chavarria escreveu:
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Re: outlook is working again...
Gene
It is very likely that alt s will work in all those
Microsoft programs, except Thunderbird, which isn't a Microsoft program but
it would be nice if they made the command available. . I have used
Outlook Express and both versions of Windows Live Mail and alt s works in all of
them. Control enter may work in all of them as well. While its
preference, I prefer the pneumonic alt s command and you can keep your left hand
on the home keys and move your right hand less away from them..
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Chris Mullins
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2018 3:28 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] outlook is working again... Hi In all 4 of the email packages I have used Outlook, Gmail, Windows Mail and Thunderbird, ctrl+enter has been the shortcut key combination to send a message.
Cheers Chris
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io
[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
marcio via Groups.Io
Just seeing if CTRL/ALT+S does anything as expected.
Let's try it.
Cheers, Where to find me: Phone(s): Em 27/12/2018 03:59, Rosemarie Chavarria escreveu:
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Re: Merry Christmas and a happy time whatever your faith and creed
Gene
If you are going to answer every Christmas message
individually, either do so off list, replying privately, or save the messages
until you have a number, four or five, and reply in one message, naming each
person and saying what you want to say. or you could simply say something
like, to all or to all who wrote with seasons greetings or something indicating
you are addressing those who wrote. It is list clutter to answer every
Christmas message individually, just as it is list clutter to answer every
person individually who makes a suggestion with identical information in each
individual message. What would the list be like if ten or fifteen people
did that?
Gene, moderator
----- Original Message -----
From: Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2018 12:42 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Merry Christmas and a happy time whatever your
faith and creed I had a wonderful Christmas with my family. We had pprime rib and it was really good. Rosemarie -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Arlene Sent: Monday, December 24, 2018 2:05 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Merry Christmas and a happy time whatever your faith and creed Hey list! Just want to wish everybody a merry Christmas! Hope you all have a good one@! On 12/24/18, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io <bglists@...> wrote: > In other words, let us hope we can all learn to live together without > killing one another in the coming years, please! > > Together > > Together, > We Hate and lie, > Together, > we suffer and cry. > Together, > we fight and die. > Why can't we learn to live, > together. > > Brian > > > > bglists@... > Sent via blueyonder. > Please address personal E-mail to:- > briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' > in the display name field. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "molly the blind tech lover" <brainardmolly@...> > To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> > Sent: Monday, December 24, 2018 12:25 AM > Subject: Re: [nvda] Merry Christmas > > > Happy Christmas. > > -----Original Message----- > From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ján Kulik > Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2018 3:29 PM > To: nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io; nvda-translations@groups.io; > nvda@nvda.groups.io > Subject: [nvda] Merry Christmas > > Hi everione, happy merry Christmas 2018 > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
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Re: outlook is working again...
Gene
It would have been nice.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Annette Moore
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2018 11:59 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] outlook is working again... Let's see if alt S works here. Nope, it just takes me to the subject. too bad it wasn't alt s, though; it would make more sense. Annette On 12/26/2018 11:40 PM, Gene wrote:
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