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Re: more and more unlabeled links with latest version of NVDA and Firefox

Mallard
 

Hello Gne,


Answers to all your questions is Yes. Different browsers (Edge, Firefox (several versions), Different computers.

Windows 10, Version 1803, but it started in 1703.


I wanted to send you pages, but they all require username and password.


However, I've noticed that most of the time they are lists. For example, in various sites the issue concerns lists of social media you can share stuff on.


On another occasion, in


www.perfect-english-grammar-com


under the paid section called PEG Plus, you have this problem within the list of courses.


If I come across some site that has free access to something like that, I'll post it.



By the way, I also tried to read the link name with Windows10 OCR, but there was nothing to be read.


Ciao,

Ollie

ps: In the case of PEG Plus, I reported the issue to the owner of the site.


Re: NVDA going silent.

MAX <max@...>
 

I changed the setting to no braille. We'll see if that changes anything.


73 (Regards).

Max K 4 O D S.

I've Never Lost the Wonder.

Antique Electronics Site: http://www.angelfire.com/electronic/funwithtubes/

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sim Kah Yong
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2018 9:35 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA going silent.

Hi, I have similar problem with NVDA from the earlier to the latest version. I go to NVDA >Preference > Setting> Bbraille> Braille display, set to No braille, I never encounter the problem of NVDA crashing on me any more. Hope this help. Please try it out and report back.

On 27/12/2018 12:17 AM, MAX wrote:
It's getting even weirder because the nvda key is having no effect. I'm going to close and restart NVDA now. Now I can turn typed characters off and on. I couldn't do that before restarting. When I pressed nvda key 2 all I would get was 2. After restarting it seems well again. Since no one came up with another solution I guess restarting is the only one.


73 (Regards).

Max K 4 O D S.

I've Never Lost the Wonder.

Antique Electronics Site:
http://www.angelfire.com/electronic/funwithtubes/



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
MAX
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2018 10:00 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA going silent.

I don't understand what you mean by sleep mode. I turned off character speak using nvda key 2 but it didn't keep it from going into its silent mode. It's in it right now. I hope this message will make sense as I am not getting any beeping feedback. Or reading of lines as I up and down arrow.


73 (Regards).

Max K 4 O D S.

I've Never Lost the Wonder.

Antique Electronics Site:
http://www.angelfire.com/electronic/funwithtubes/


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Shaun Everiss
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 8:32 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA going silent.

Actually if you toggle it to sleep mode and turn off typing letters
its actually able to work for you if you run long passages as long as
you don't hit control



On 12/26/2018 2:47 PM, MAX wrote:
I got a wry smile out of the recent thread from people who wanted to
keep NVDA from speaking. It does that all the time to me although I
don't want it too. I have found that if I am running two or more
programs in windows
10 that at some random time after starting the second program that
NVDA will go silent. No amount of tabbing or arrowing will cure its case of
laryngitis. So far the only way I can restore its voice is to press
control alt N to restart it. Is there a quicker way to start it
talking again?


73 (Regards).

Max. K 4 O DS.

I've Never Lost the Wonder.

Email: max@maxsmusicplace.com

Vacuum Tube Site: http://www.angelfire.com/electronic/funwithtubes/
Transistor site: http://www.angelfire.com/planet/funwithtransistors/
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accessible drive partitioning software

Richard Kuzma
 

Good afternoon,

Been wrestling with this one for a while,

Does anyone know of any accessible drive partitioning software that is non destructive?

Thanks

Rich

 


Re: more and more unlabeled links with latest version of NVDA and Firefox

Gene
 

But its better to use the intended command for the intended purpose.  Yes, u works on new sites the way k does.  but how am I going to remember all sites I've visited over a long time?  And what if someone sends me a link in a message to an article and I then look around on the site and, if it’s a site I almost never use, I don't remember? 
 
In addition to or even aside from such considerations, it's just better in general to use intended commands for their intended purpose and not start using various commands for purposes they weren't intended for.  If you do that in enough programs, you'll be inconsistently using commands and its just a bad practice in logic and organization, and you may use them in situations where they won't work as expected.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2018 11:23 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] more and more unlabeled links with latest version of NVDA and Firefox

On Thu, Dec 27, 2018 at 11:56 AM, Gene wrote:
U is intended for sites you have visited before and you only want to see links you haven't gone to before. 
U is intended to visit only links that one has previously not visited - unvisited links, regardless of whether you've visited a site before or not.  It's perfectly appropriate to use when one knows one is visiting a site for the first time and, in that case, is directly analogous with K.  It is only if one is visiting a site one has been to before, and in addition followed links there, where there is any distinction between visited and unvisited links.
 
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A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

          ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back

 

 


Re: more and more unlabeled links with latest version of NVDA and Firefox

 

On Thu, Dec 27, 2018 at 11:56 AM, Gene wrote:
U is intended for sites you have visited before and you only want to see links you haven't gone to before. 
U is intended to visit only links that one has previously not visited - unvisited links, regardless of whether you've visited a site before or not.  It's perfectly appropriate to use when one knows one is visiting a site for the first time and, in that case, is directly analogous with K.  It is only if one is visiting a site one has been to before, and in addition followed links there, where there is any distinction between visited and unvisited links.
 
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Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

          ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back

 

 


Re: more and more unlabeled links with latest version of NVDA and Firefox

Gene
 

If you move by k or tab through the links, the second link is read.  If you down arrow through the links or use the links list, you just hear link spoken.  This is using the default settings for object presentation and document presentation.  I don't know if there is a setting you can change that makes this consistent.  
 
Whatever the case, this is probably what users generally will encounter.  I've seen this on some other links where I get more information by tabbing or using k. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2018 10:01 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] more and more unlabeled links with latest version of NVDA and Firefox

On Thu, Dec 27, 2018 at 09:29 AM, Gene wrote:
We don't know if the problem occurs in other places than the elements list.  However, It is unlikely that this problem is confined to the elements list.  it probably affects the links wherever you see them.
You are probably correct.  One site, simplecast.com, has been identified and it does occur there.  It's the second link, and only one that comes up "unlabeled" in the links list, on the page, so it's easy to get to.

In the case of this page if one is traversing via the U keyboard shortcut what gets announced when you land on the link is the title from the HTML, "Simplecast on Twitter."

The larger the sample size of pages where this is occurring the better, but that's what I was able to get from about 5 minutes total time testing on that page with the latest version of NVDA with a number of add-ons installed.

If someone gets something different with a pristine portable version of NVDA, an older version of NVDA, or an installed current NVDA with no add-ons that would certainly give more data points useful to the developers, but those tests aren't something I'll be doing.
 
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Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

          ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back

 

 


Re: more and more unlabeled links with latest version of NVDA and Firefox

Gene
 

Why use the u navigationk key?  That is to move by unvisited links.  it has a very specific use and shouldn't be used for general link navigation.  K or tab should be used. 
 
U is intended for sites you have visited before and you only want to see links you haven't gone to before. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2018 10:01 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] more and more unlabeled links with latest version of NVDA and Firefox

On Thu, Dec 27, 2018 at 09:29 AM, Gene wrote:
We don't know if the problem occurs in other places than the elements list.  However, It is unlikely that this problem is confined to the elements list.  it probably affects the links wherever you see them.
You are probably correct.  One site, simplecast.com, has been identified and it does occur there.  It's the second link, and only one that comes up "unlabeled" in the links list, on the page, so it's easy to get to.

In the case of this page if one is traversing via the U keyboard shortcut what gets announced when you land on the link is the title from the HTML, "Simplecast on Twitter."

The larger the sample size of pages where this is occurring the better, but that's what I was able to get from about 5 minutes total time testing on that page with the latest version of NVDA with a number of add-ons installed.

If someone gets something different with a pristine portable version of NVDA, an older version of NVDA, or an installed current NVDA with no add-ons that would certainly give more data points useful to the developers, but those tests aren't something I'll be doing.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

          ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back

 

 


Re: more and more unlabeled links with latest version of NVDA and Firefox

Gene
 

That may be, but we can't see if your problem is a general one or just yours without more information.
 
We need addresses to web pages where this happens and we need to know certain things. 
 
What browser are you using?  Have you seen the problem in different browsers?  You may have stated the version of Windows you are using but if you did I don't remember.  Have you seen the problem on more than one computer?  Those are the questions that come to mind now.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Mallard
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2018 9:48 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] more and more unlabeled links with latest version of NVDA and Firefox

Hello Gene,


In my case, the issue has been present for quite some time. At least a
couple of years on the first sites where I noticed it, so I don't
suppose it's a question of newer versions of NVDA.

In 2016 they were like this, and so they are today, only there are more
instances of that.

Ciao,

Ollie




Il 27/12/2018 15:27, Gene ha scritto:
> But no one has said that they tested any of these sites using older
> versions of NVDA where the links were read.  I have older versions
> here.  If someone will send specific pages where such problems occur,
> they can be checked by me and/or others.
> At this point, we don't know if the problem is the sites, which may or
> may not have changed, or NVDA, which may or may not have changed.
> Gene
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Mallard <mailto:mallard@...>
> *Sent:* Thursday, December 27, 2018 8:07 AM
> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] more and more unlabeled links with latest
> version of NVDA and Firefox
>
> Hey all,
>
>
> I do find such links more and more often too, but my understanding was
> that this issue was due to the type of template the site designers or
> webmasters used to build the sites.
>
>
> There are lots of sites (a growing number, I'd say), where you hear
> "Link", "Link", "Link", but you have to click on them to discover where
> they take you.
>
>
> It definitely isn't a Firefox issue, as I find the very same situation
> in Chrome.
>
>
> Ciao,
>
> Ollie
>
>
>
>
> Il 27/12/2018 10:40, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io ha scritto:
> > Whenever funny things occur its often a good thing to have a pristine
> > portable copy of nvda with no add ons in it to check against before
> > bringing up an issue that might be a clash of add ons or settings
> > choices too.
> > Brian
> >
> > bglists@... <mailto:bglists@...>
> > Sent via blueyonder.
> > Please address personal E-mail to:-
> > briang1@... <mailto:briang1@...>, putting
> 'Brian Gaff'
> > in the display name field.
> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris via Groups.Io"
> > <chrismedley@...
> <mailto:chrismedley@...>>
> > To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>>
> > Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2018 9:04 AM
> > Subject: Re: [nvda] more and more unlabeled links with latest version
> > of NVDA and Firefox
> >
> >
> > Maybe you should clarify by what you mean by unlabelled links???
> >
> >
> > What links are unlabelled ?
> > All those sites you mentioned appear to be fine here with latest nvda
> > 18.4
> >
> > What is nvda not doing for you what its doing for others?
> >
> > Or what do you want nvda to do ?
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Governor staten
> > Sent: 27 December 2018 03:48
> > To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> > Subject: [nvda] more and more unlabeled links with latest version of
> > NVDA and Firefox
> >
> > Hello list. My subject line aptly describes the issue. Recently, I’ve
> > seen more sites with unlabeled links than I’ve seen in recent memory,
> > or ever before. I’ve seen them on paypal.com, yetcast.simplecast.fm
> > Simplecast.com, and other places. Why is this? I’m using latest
> > version of NVDA with latest version of Firefox, version 64. Will have
> > to do more testing to see if this occurs in Edge and Chrome. Any ideas
> > as to how to troubleshoot would be appreciated.
> >
> > An extra point of information, I am running the latest alpha. My
> > roommate is running the latest stable version, 2018.4, along with same
> > version of Firefox. He is seeing some of the same things I am,
> > particularly on Simplecast.com and yetcast.simplecast.fm. Thanks to
> > all in advance for any assistance that can be given.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>



Re: more and more unlabeled links with latest version of NVDA and Firefox

 

On Thu, Dec 27, 2018 at 09:29 AM, Gene wrote:
We don't know if the problem occurs in other places than the elements list.  However, It is unlikely that this problem is confined to the elements list.  it probably affects the links wherever you see them.
You are probably correct.  One site, simplecast.com, has been identified and it does occur there.  It's the second link, and only one that comes up "unlabeled" in the links list, on the page, so it's easy to get to.

In the case of this page if one is traversing via the U keyboard shortcut what gets announced when you land on the link is the title from the HTML, "Simplecast on Twitter."

The larger the sample size of pages where this is occurring the better, but that's what I was able to get from about 5 minutes total time testing on that page with the latest version of NVDA with a number of add-ons installed.

If someone gets something different with a pristine portable version of NVDA, an older version of NVDA, or an installed current NVDA with no add-ons that would certainly give more data points useful to the developers, but those tests aren't something I'll be doing.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

          ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back

 

 


Re: more and more unlabeled links with latest version of NVDA and Firefox

Mallard
 

Hello Gene,


In my case, the issue has been present for quite some time. At least a couple of years on the first sites where I noticed it, so I don't suppose it's a question of newer versions of NVDA.

In 2016 they were like this, and so they are today, only there are more instances of that.

Ciao,

Ollie

Il 27/12/2018 15:27, Gene ha scritto:
But no one has said that they tested any of these sites using older versions of NVDA where the links were read.  I have older versions here.  If someone will send specific pages where such problems occur, they can be checked by me and/or others.
At this point, we don't know if the problem is the sites, which may or may not have changed, or NVDA, which may or may not have changed.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Mallard <mailto:mallard@kimabe.eu>
*Sent:* Thursday, December 27, 2018 8:07 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] more and more unlabeled links with latest version of NVDA and Firefox

Hey all,


I do find such links more and more often too, but my understanding was
that this issue was due to the type of template the site designers or
webmasters used to build the sites.


There are lots of sites (a growing number, I'd say), where you hear
"Link", "Link", "Link", but you have to click on them to discover where
they take you.


It definitely isn't a Firefox issue, as I find the very same situation
in Chrome.


Ciao,

Ollie




Il 27/12/2018 10:40, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io ha scritto:
Whenever funny things occur its often a good thing to have a pristine
portable copy of nvda with no add ons in it to check against before
bringing up an issue that might be a clash of add ons or settings
choices too.
Brian

bglists@blueyonder.co.uk <mailto:bglists@blueyonder.co.uk>
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal E-mail to:-
briang1@blueyonder.co.uk <mailto:briang1@blueyonder.co.uk>, putting
'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris via Groups.Io"
<chrismedley=btinternet.com@groups.io
<mailto:chrismedley=btinternet.com@groups.io>>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>>
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2018 9:04 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] more and more unlabeled links with latest version
of NVDA and Firefox


Maybe you should clarify by what you mean by unlabelled links???


What links are unlabelled ?
All those sites you mentioned appear to be fine here with latest nvda
18.4

What is nvda not doing for you what its doing for others?

Or what do you want nvda to do ?



From: Governor staten
Sent: 27 December 2018 03:48
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] more and more unlabeled links with latest version of
NVDA and Firefox

Hello list. My subject line aptly describes the issue. Recently, I’ve
seen more sites with unlabeled links than I’ve seen in recent memory,
or ever before. I’ve seen them on paypal.com, yetcast.simplecast.fm
Simplecast.com, and other places. Why is this? I’m using latest
version of NVDA with latest version of Firefox, version 64. Will have
to do more testing to see if this occurs in Edge and Chrome. Any ideas
as to how to troubleshoot would be appreciated.

An extra point of information, I am running the latest alpha. My
roommate is running the latest stable version, 2018.4, along with same
version of Firefox. He is seeing some of the same things I am,
particularly on Simplecast.com and yetcast.simplecast.fm. Thanks to
all in advance for any assistance that can be given.











Re: Microsoft messes up again with an update.

 

John,

          It may not be Microsoft.  What make/model is your laptop and, more specifically, what Bluetooth or WiFi/Bluetooth combo card does it have?

          Intel has just been releasing "modern drivers" for that hardware and your machine may need to be updated to it.  There are just way too many variables and unknowns to have a definitive answer, or even a decent guess.

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A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

          ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back

 

 


Re: phonetic spelling

 

Hi,

Hmmm, I see what’s happening. If I’m reading your post correctly, it looks like there is a bigger issue than letting NVDA pronounce characters phonetically. But to cut to the chase (as they say), the actual command to get NVDA to say the character phonetically is Numpad 2 (laptop: NVDA+period) twice.

I think the reason why Giles might be mentioning object navigation and its “relationship” to character spelling and phonetic pronunciation might be confusing object navigation for review cursor thanks to our recent discussion. Am I correct? If yes, it looks like I’ll write up another tutorial (or two) on what exactly review cursor is, review modes, and possible confusion (taking Gene’s advice into account).

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Giles Turnbull
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2018 7:04 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] phonetic spelling

 

Hi all,

I thought there was a way to use object navigation to read letters using the NATO phonetic alphabet (alpha, bravo, juliet etc) but I can't figure out if I'm making that up! The only thing in the NVDA guide about phonetic spellings is in regard to Chinese characters.

I know that using Num Pad 5 twice will spell out the word w-o-r-d and three times coppies the word to the clipboard, but is there any way to get the phonetic identification?

The two SAPI5 voices I like are Zira and Hazel ... Zira is my default but I was struggling to tell whether a letter in somebody's name was a v or a b ... I hoped to figure out how to get NVDA to say Victor or Bravo, but without success. I solved the problem by switching to the Hazel voice which has a clearer pronunciation difference between v and b, but am just curious if there is a way to get the phonetic spelling if needed.

Thanks,

Giles


Re: phonetic spelling

Tyler Spivey
 

You clearly didn't try pressing read word three times. Try that and see
what happens. You might also want to try read character twice. Both of
these should do what you want. Read line three times also does it.

On 12/27/2018 7:04 AM, Giles Turnbull wrote:
Hi all,

I thought there was a way to use object navigation to read letters using
the NATO phonetic alphabet (alpha, bravo, juliet etc) but I can't figure
out if I'm making that up! The only thing in the NVDA guide about
phonetic spellings is in regard to Chinese characters.

I know that using Num Pad 5 twice will spell out the word w-o-r-d and
three times coppies the word to the clipboard, but is there any way to
get the phonetic identification?

The two SAPI5 voices I like are Zira and Hazel ... Zira is my default
but I was struggling to tell whether a letter in somebody's name was a v
or a b ... I hoped to figure out how to get NVDA to say Victor or Bravo,
but without success. I solved the problem by switching to the Hazel
voice which has a clearer pronunciation difference between v and b, but
am just curious if there is a way to get the phonetic spelling if needed.

Thanks,

Giles


phonetic spelling

Giles Turnbull
 

Hi all,

I thought there was a way to use object navigation to read letters using the NATO phonetic alphabet (alpha, bravo, juliet etc) but I can't figure out if I'm making that up! The only thing in the NVDA guide about phonetic spellings is in regard to Chinese characters.

I know that using Num Pad 5 twice will spell out the word w-o-r-d and three times coppies the word to the clipboard, but is there any way to get the phonetic identification?

The two SAPI5 voices I like are Zira and Hazel ... Zira is my default but I was struggling to tell whether a letter in somebody's name was a v or a b ... I hoped to figure out how to get NVDA to say Victor or Bravo, but without success. I solved the problem by switching to the Hazel voice which has a clearer pronunciation difference between v and b, but am just curious if there is a way to get the phonetic spelling if needed.

Thanks,

Giles


Microsoft messes up again with an update.

John J. Boyer
 

My laptop will no longer send Braille to my Focus 40 via Bluetooth. Things were working fine when the machine started
to misbehave. After a cold boot it wouldn't give me anything. I think the update destroyed the pairing between the
computer and the Focus 40. Microsoft did the same thing a few weeks ago.

John

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Location: Madison, Wisconsin, USA
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that are available at no cost


Re: Graphics that contain links

Gene
 

I should say its on the web page of the petition you want to sign.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2018 8:38 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Graphics that contain links

                                I can’t find any button. I am using Windows mail

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Chris via Groups.Io
Sent: 27 December 2018 14:18
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Graphics that contain links

 

Look for the sign button rather than a graphic, it works fine

 

 

 

From: Peter Beasley
Sent: 27 December 2018 12:39
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Graphics that contain links

 

There is a petition site here in the UK called 38 degrees. Until a couple of months ago, there was no problem clicking on links to sign petitions. They have changed the link to a graphic. What it says is graphic wrecked angle contains link. I am unable to find a way to activate these links using NVDA which is my only screen reader..

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

 

 


Re: Any available tutorial on Golden Cursor

 

Hi,

Yes I have done it, and the site to get it is:

https://www.josephsl.net/tutorials

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Lino Morales
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2018 9:32 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Any available tutorial on Golden Cursor

 

Don’t quote me on this, but I believe Joseph did make an audio tutorial or a written one on his site which he’d have to provide the URL.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Sim Kah Yong <simkahyong@...>
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2018 12:28:18 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Any available tutorial on Golden Cursor

 

Hi all,

Does anyone know if there is any tutorial demonstrating the use and
power of the add-on Golden Cursor? This Add-on might be useful in
instance where even Object Navigation cannot help to read the screen.  A
google search turn up nothing for me. Please advise, I am all-ears. Thanks.





Re: Graphics that contain links

Gene
 

The button is on the web page of the petition you want to send. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2018 8:38 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Graphics that contain links

                                I can’t find any button. I am using Windows mail

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Chris via Groups.Io
Sent: 27 December 2018 14:18
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Graphics that contain links

 

Look for the sign button rather than a graphic, it works fine

 

 

 

From: Peter Beasley
Sent: 27 December 2018 12:39
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Graphics that contain links

 

There is a petition site here in the UK called 38 degrees. Until a couple of months ago, there was no problem clicking on links to sign petitions. They have changed the link to a graphic. What it says is graphic wrecked angle contains link. I am unable to find a way to activate these links using NVDA which is my only screen reader..

 

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Re: Graphics that contain links

Chris
 

Ahh, I thought you meant the site itself

Try going to the website rather than using email links

 

 

From: Peter Beasley
Sent: 27 December 2018 14:38
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Graphics that contain links

 

                                I can’t find any button. I am using Windows mail

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Chris via Groups.Io
Sent: 27 December 2018 14:18
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Graphics that contain links

 

Look for the sign button rather than a graphic, it works fine

 

 

 

From: Peter Beasley
Sent: 27 December 2018 12:39
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Graphics that contain links

 

There is a petition site here in the UK called 38 degrees. Until a couple of months ago, there was no problem clicking on links to sign petitions. They have changed the link to a graphic. What it says is graphic wrecked angle contains link. I am unable to find a way to activate these links using NVDA which is my only screen reader..

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

 

 

 


Re: Graphics that contain links

Peter Beasley
 

                                I can’t find any button. I am using Windows mail

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Chris via Groups.Io
Sent: 27 December 2018 14:18
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Graphics that contain links

 

Look for the sign button rather than a graphic, it works fine

 

 

 

From: Peter Beasley
Sent: 27 December 2018 12:39
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Graphics that contain links

 

There is a petition site here in the UK called 38 degrees. Until a couple of months ago, there was no problem clicking on links to sign petitions. They have changed the link to a graphic. What it says is graphic wrecked angle contains link. I am unable to find a way to activate these links using NVDA which is my only screen reader..

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10