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Re: Microsoft messes up again with an update.
Brian's Mail list account
Roll back as it normally creates a restore point and one can do this.
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Brian bglists@... Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal E-mail to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field.
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From: "John J. Boyer" <john.boyer@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2018 2:58 PM Subject: [nvda] Microsoft messes up again with an update. My laptop will no longer send Braille to my Focus 40 via Bluetooth. Things were working fine when the machine started
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Re: Graphics that contain links
Brian's Mail list account
Are you saying this is an html email then?
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Brian bglists@... Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal E-mail to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field.
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From: "Peter Beasley" <pjbeasley23@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2018 2:38 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] Graphics that contain links I can’t find any button. I am using Windows mail Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Chris via Groups.Io Sent: 27 December 2018 14:18 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Graphics that contain links Look for the sign button rather than a graphic, it works fine From: Peter Beasley Sent: 27 December 2018 12:39 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] Graphics that contain links There is a petition site here in the UK called 38 degrees. Until a couple of months ago, there was no problem clicking on links to sign petitions. They have changed the link to a graphic. What it says is graphic wrecked angle contains link. I am unable to find a way to activate these links using NVDA which is my only screen reader.. Sent from Mail for Windows 10
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Re: Graphics that contain links
Brian's Mail list account
Do they have a contact email. It seems like they may have made a simple error here and need to be alerted to it.
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Its probably been created by a piece of software I suspect. I've come across this sort of thing. Sometimes it will click with nvda keypad enter but not always. I'm sure somebody more knowledgeable might be able to explain but email today is coming in in fits and starts and out of time order, so apologies if somebody else has replied with more advice the same as this. Brian bglists@... Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal E-mail to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field.
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From: "Peter Beasley" <pjbeasley23@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2018 12:39 PM Subject: [nvda] Graphics that contain links There is a petition site here in the UK called 38 degrees. Until a couple of months ago, there was no problem clicking on links to sign petitions. They have changed the link to a graphic. What it says is graphic wrecked angle contains link. I am unable to find a way to activate these links using NVDA which is my only screen reader.. Sent from Mail for Windows 10
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Problem reading HTML file using Internet explorer
Hi all
I sometimes read matireal of technology, such as software user guide in html format, then practice on the software along with the guide. When do this with NVDA, if I switch focus to other program to do something, then switch back to the browser, focus usually not position at the place where I left it so I must find that position to continue reading. Using Windows 10, NVDA 2018.4, Internet Explorer version 11. Anyone has same problem, and know how to solve? Please help me. I also have Microsoft Edge, Mozilla Firefox, and Google Chrome on my laptop so I could switch to those browser if needed. Any help would be appreciated. Cuong ---------------- Dang Manh Cuong The Assistive technology specialist Sao Mai Vocational and assistive center for the blind 52/22 Huynh Thien Loc St., Hoa Thanh ward, Tan Phu dist., HCM, Vietnam. Tel: +8428 7302-4488 E-mail: info@...; tech@... Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/saomaicenterfortheblind Website: http://www.trungtamsaomai.org; http://www.saomaicenter.org Mobile / Zalo: +84 902-572-300 E-mail: dangmanhcuong@...; cuong@... Skype name: dangmanhcuong facebook: http://facebook.com/dangmanhcuong Twitter: @ManhCuongTech NVDA Certified Expert: https://certification.nvaccess.org/
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Re: Best Wordprocesor
How do I enable experimental UIA support? Op 28-12-2018 om 06:53 schreef David
Goldfield:
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Re: Best Wordprocesor
David Goldfield
Hi. First, I admit that my computer is most definitely not the fastest machine around. In my case, there is definite sluggishness when using NVDA with Microsoft Word 365. This is not only true with startup, which isn't all that bad, but it particularly manifests
itself when moving the cursor to edit or review text. In my case, there is a noticeable delay which has pretty much caused me to avoid using NVDA with Word on this machine until version 2018.4 introduced experimental UIA support. Minimizing the window and
putting Word into draft mode helps to speed things up somewhat. Enabling the experimental UIA support has made quite a difference for me with 2018.4 and I can now use Word with a reasonable response time when navigating text with arrow keys. Someone on another
list also reported the same issue. I pretty much did much of my word processing with LibreOffice for certain tasks, which behaves normally. On faster machines which I use at work, however, navigating in Word is responsive and navigation behaves as expected. David Goldfield, Assistive Technology Specialist
WWW.David-Goldfield.Com
On 12/26/2018 6:38 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
Kelby,
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Re: NVDA going silent.
David Goldfield
In Chrome, there is a setting to block pop-ups which should be on by default. It might be helpful to access your Chrome settings just to ensure that the setting is set to blocking popups.
1. When in Chrome, press alt-F for the Chrome menu. 2. Press S for Settings. 3. Activate the Advanced button. 4. Activate the Content Settings button. 5. Look for the Popup button or you could press insert-ctrl-F to bring up the NVDA find dialog and type the word "pop" without the quotes. Make sure that it is set to "blocked." If popups still occur could you tell us a little more about the type of pages which are appearing? Does this behavior happen when you're viewing specific sites? If the problem occurs more often than not I do think that it would be very good to perform a scan of your system to see if any malware has been detected. Which antivirus or antimalware programs do you use? For a second opinion I'd recommend installing the free version of MalwareBytes to see if it detects anything.
David Goldfield, Assistive Technology Specialist
WWW.David-Goldfield.Com
On 12/27/2018 9:11 PM, Gene wrote:
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Re: NVDA going silent.
Gene
I seem to recall we may have discussed popups with
Chrome before. I think its adware. I don't recall hearing about what
you are discussing in Chrome in cases other than adware.
If you don't want to investigate that problem, then
it would be a good good idea to start using Firefox. If you can use
Internet Explorer and if it works properly on the sites you want to use, you may
want to just use it for now, but over time, Internet Explorer will work with
increasingly fewer sites.
Gene
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It happened just now. When I pressed nvda key + N the menu came up. I arrowed around the menu and speech came back on. So there is another way to restore it. The two programs I had running were outlook 2013 and internet explorer. Chrome has become unusable because of the popups Which are greater in number every time I open it.
73 (Regards).
Max K 4 O D S.
I've Never Lost the Wonder.
Antique Electronics Site: http://www.angelfire.com/electronic/funwithtubes/
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io
[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
We don't know if there is a problem with speech or if the program stops running. You can't assume that just because speech stops, that the problem is with speech. When this happens, run Narrator or another screen-reader. Then try opening the NVDA menu. Does the menu open? If so, the problem has something to do with speech while NVDA is running. It may be a synthesizer problem or it may be an NVDA problem. If the menu doesn't open, then NVDA is no longer running which is an entirely different problem.
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I don't understand what you mean by sleep mode. I turned
off character speak using nvda key 2 but it didn't keep it from going into its
silent mode. It's in it right now. I hope this message will make
sense as I am not getting any beeping feedback. Or reading of lines as I
up and down arrow.
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Re: NVDA going silent.
MAX <max@...>
It happened just now. When I pressed nvda key + N the menu came up. I arrowed around the menu and speech came back on. So there is another way to restore it. The two programs I had running were outlook 2013 and internet explorer. Chrome has become unusable because of the popups Which are greater in number every time I open it.
73 (Regards).
Max K 4 O D S.
I've Never Lost the Wonder.
Antique Electronics Site: http://www.angelfire.com/electronic/funwithtubes/
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2018 10:10 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA going silent.
We don't know if there is a problem with speech or if the program stops running. You can't assume that just because speech stops, that the problem is with speech. When this happens, run Narrator or another screen-reader. Then try opening the NVDA menu. Does the menu open? If so, the problem has something to do with speech while NVDA is running. It may be a synthesizer problem or it may be an NVDA problem. If the menu doesn't open, then NVDA is no longer running which is an entirely different problem.
Gene ----- Original Message -----
I don't understand what you mean by sleep mode. I turned off character speak using nvda key 2 but it didn't keep it from going into its silent mode. It's in it right now. I hope this message will make sense as I am not getting any beeping feedback. Or reading of lines as I up and down arrow.
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Moderation
Nimer Jaber
Hello, First, here's hoping that you all have had a lovely Christmas if you celebrate it. Thank you for making this community what it continues to be. Second, and in a more serious manner, I would like to invite anyone and everyone who has input, suggestions, or complaints with the way that this list is moderated to send me an e-mail at nimerjaber1@... with your comments and suggestions. Also, with the growing membership in this group, I am considering the possibility of adding on another moderator to this group. If you are interested in being considered or would like to nominate someone, please e-mail me at nimerjaber1@... with those suggestions as well. Thanks everyone. Cordially, Nimer Jaber Please take the time to read this signature completely as it contains some information about the email you have just read and all attachments contained within as well as some valuable resources and methods for contacting me if you have any questions or wish to talk. The message above is intended for the recipient to whom it was addressed. If you believe that you are not the intended recipient, please notify me via reply email and destroy all copies of this correspondence. Action taken as a result of this email or its contents by anyone other than the intended recipient(s) may result in civil or criminal charges. I have checked this email and all corresponding attachments for security threats. However, security of your machine is up to you. Thanks. Registered Linux User 529141. http://counter.li.org/ To find out about a free and versatile screen reader for windows XP and above, please click here: http://www.nvda-project.org You can follow @nimerjaber on Twitter for the latest technology news. To contact me, you can reply to this email or you may call me at (970) (658-0358) and I will do my best to respond to you promptly. Thank you, and have a great day!
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Re: Best Wordprocesor
Jason White
If I need a word processor, I generally use Microsoft Word, since I usually have to deal with change tracking and comments. These aren't accessible in LibreOffice yet, unless there has been an update in that area recently.
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However, when I'm writing a paper or a series of slides for a presentation, I use a text editor and prepare te documents either in Markdown for conversion with Pandoc, or in LaTeX. I occasionally edit HTML as well. For anything complex (a paper, for example), LaTeX is my first choice. I use Git to maintain it under revision control, and Emacs as my text editor. All of this works under Linux or Windows. On the Mac, TextMate seems to be the most accessible text editor at the moment. Notepad++ is another option with Windows and NVDA, though it isn't my first preference.
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of kelby carlson Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2018 11:37 AM To: nvda@groups.io Subject: [nvda] Best Wordprocesor In light of the confirmation that certain features of LibreOffice are inaccessible, I'd be interested to know what everyone's vaorite word processing application is. i mostly use Word, but am coming to really hate its sluggishness and clutter and am hoping to find a different one. It looks like LibreOffice and OpenOffice both have accessibility issues that make them unsuitable for my work environment. -- Kelby Carlson
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Re: Microsoft messes up again with an update.
Hi,
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I'm thinking this has to do with the driver rather than Windows Update breaking things. However, the crystal ball shows a future where bugs related to Vispero (formerly VFO, formerly Freedom Scientific) drivers would be gone for the most part. Cheers, joseph
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Diane Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2018 3:45 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Microsoft messes up again with an update. Every time since the beginning of Jaws 18, my focus 40 has stopped working with every update. I don't think it's bluetooth pairing, although it seems like it. There was only one Jaws update that this didn't happen. It happend with this one, though. I went through a complicated thing before by deleting the setting in my explore my settings folder. That worked for the other updates. This time I messed up when it asked me if I wanted to save the settings in Jaws. I couldn't thin of what to do, so I turned on NVDA after I uninstalled Jaws 2019. When I started the re-install of 2019, and it asked me about sharing the user settings I said no instead of yes. It asked for doing the wizard again, of course, when I restarted Jaws and I went through the wizard like I was supposed to do. My focus 40 works fine, now. Maybe you could try that. I think it's much simpler than the stuff I did with the other updates. I used NVDA to start it this time, but I used narrator once before way last year when I had to uninstall Jaws and re-do it for something. Even though I fixed the wizard, I had to re-add the Brl display again. Like I said, it works fine now. I hop this helps. Didn't mean to write a novel but I wanted to explain everything so it could be understood because I went through a lot of frustration with it. You have to go in the advanced in the Brl settings in Jaws because the firmness is set to something else and the placement thing is set to the default. I like it on none because I just want to read my text and not have signs of things on the left or right. That's all I had to do afterwords and it works good again. It's a pain in the neck to do it after every Jaws update and I wish somebody knew the reason but, Oh well. God bless. ----- Original Message ----- From: "John J. Boyer" <john.boyer@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2018 9:58 AM Subject: [nvda] Microsoft messes up again with an update. My laptop will no longer send Braille to my Focus 40 via Bluetooth. Things were working fine when the machine started
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Re: more and more unlabeled links with latest version of NVDA and Firefox
Gene
I had forgotten that 57 was the first version of
Quantum. I started experimenting with it at version 60.
Gene
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From: enes sarıbaş
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2018 5:54 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] more and more unlabeled links with latest
version of NVDA and Firefox hi Gene, 57 is indeed the release at which firefox switched to quantum. This should be
investigated by NVAccess and firefox. On 12/27/2018 8:23 PM, Gene wrote:
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Re: more and more unlabeled links with latest version of NVDA and Firefox
Hi all, The people keeping an eye on this isn’t reachable at the moment – either they’re in vacation (in case of one person) or not part of this forum at all (two people). For people who aren’t part of this forum, I advise contacting them via Twitter or other means once Mozilla people return from holiday break (don’t have their Mozilla email addresses at the moment). For one person who’s taking a vacation, I’m sure he’ll respond to you all once he returns in January. Cheers, joseph
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of enes saribas
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2018 3:55 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] more and more unlabeled links with latest version of NVDA and Firefox
hi Gene, 57 is indeed the release at which firefox switched to quantum. This should be investigated by NVAccess and firefox. On 12/27/2018 8:23 PM, Gene wrote:
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Re: Microsoft messes up again with an update.
Diane
Every time since the beginning of Jaws 18, my focus 40 has stopped working with every update. I don't think it's bluetooth pairing, although it seems like it. There was only one Jaws update that this didn't happen. It happend with this one, though. I went through a complicated thing before by deleting the setting in my explore my settings folder. That worked for the other updates. This time I messed up when it asked me if I wanted to save the settings in Jaws. I couldn't thin of what to do, so I turned on NVDA after I uninstalled Jaws 2019. When I started the re-install of 2019, and it asked me about sharing the user settings I said no instead of yes. It asked for doing the wizard again, of course, when I restarted Jaws and I went through the wizard like I was supposed to do. My focus 40 works fine, now. Maybe you could try that. I think it's much simpler than the stuff I did with the other updates. I used NVDA to start it this time, but I used narrator once before way last year when I had to uninstall Jaws and re-do it for something. Even though I fixed the wizard, I had to re-add the Brl display again. Like I said, it works fine now.
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I hop this helps. Didn't mean to write a novel but I wanted to explain everything so it could be understood because I went through a lot of frustration with it. You have to go in the advanced in the Brl settings in Jaws because the firmness is set to something else and the placement thing is set to the default. I like it on none because I just want to read my text and not have signs of things on the left or right. That's all I had to do afterwords and it works good again. It's a pain in the neck to do it after every Jaws update and I wish somebody knew the reason but, Oh well. God bless.
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From: "John J. Boyer" <john.boyer@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2018 9:58 AM Subject: [nvda] Microsoft messes up again with an update. My laptop will no longer send Braille to my Focus 40 via Bluetooth. Things were working fine when the machine started
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Re: more and more unlabeled links with latest version of NVDA and Firefox
Gene
Thank you for your compliments. I'm always
pleased when a disagreement works out well.
I don't mind if people write about matters on list
now, but if the discussion goes on and involves others so it develops into a
somewhat prominent thread, I would take it to the owner's list but your exchange
on list didn't bother me.
I almost never get comments
about my moderation, perhaps in part because the list almost never needs
moderation.
Perhaps this exchange will
encourage others to comment when they have an objection or a compliment.
But if people do comment more frequently, I'll start asking that comments be
sent off list if they become more common. But for now, comments on list
may encourage others to do so.
Gene
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From: Mallard
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2018 5:27 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] more and more unlabeled links with latest
version of NVDA and Firefox Thanks for your expanded explanation. I appreciate how seriously you take matters, Gene. I mean it. It's not a matter of what you say most of the time. I understand that you need to be brief, so things may come through harsher than you mean. Sorry for pointing it out publicly. I should have written to you off-list. Ciao, Ollie Il 27/12/2018 23:46, Gene ha scritto: > Thank you for discussing the matter in a civil and civilized manner > and for the compliments. > If you send me an example of how you think the message would be better > written, I'll consider it. I don't know if this matters in > considering the question, but I was writing to you but also to anyone > following the thread. Perhaps I'll send the message as a moderator > comment so that more people will see it. but I wanted to emphasize > it. It isn't just a matter of inconvenience, but these days, > criminals purchase domains with slight spelling errors that someone > might make when typing popular addresses. If someone makes such an > error, they may be taken to a malicious site that may try to infect > the machine or try to convince the person to give personal information > on the site, maybe by presenting a login page that looks like the real > one. But I consider this question of some importance. > Gene > ----- original Messsage ----- > *From:* Mallard <mailto:mallard@...> > *Sent:* Thursday, December 27, 2018 4:25 PM > *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> > *Subject:* Re: [nvda] more and more unlabeled links with latest > version of NVDA and Firefox > > Gene, > > > I've already corrected my message. > > > You may not be dictatorial (which I don't think you are), but sometimes > you do come through as a very intolerant and rough person to say the > least. > > > Luckily, I've been around this group long enough to appreciate your > value as a person always ready to share knowledge and help. > > > We might need to check urls character by character, but I think you > should check the tone of your messages sometimes, before you send them > out... > > > With great respect and appreciation. > > Ollie > > > > > Il 27/12/2018 21:42, Gene ha scritto: > > Will people please check addresses character by character before > > sending a message if they write or dictate them and not paste them > > from the address bar. I see errors in addresses far to often on the > > lists I follow when people type them. This link is not correct. A > > dash was used before the com. The address is: > > www.perfect-english-grammar.com > <http://www.perfect-english-grammar.com> > <http://www.perfect-english-grammar.com> > > I understand that we live in an era where people write however they > > wish. But when writing something where precision matters, a path > > statement, a web site address, a mathematical formula, the time of an > > event, it is necessary to check what is written. > > Gene > > ----- Original Message ----- > > *From:* Mallard <mailto:mallard@...> > > *Sent:* Thursday, December 27, 2018 1:03 PM > > *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> > <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> > > *Subject:* Re: [nvda] more and more unlabeled links with latest > > version of NVDA and Firefox > > > > I'm pleased to report that Seonaid Beckwith, creator and owner of the > > > > > > www.perfect-english-grammar-com > <http://www.perfect-english-grammar-com> > <http://www.perfect-english-grammar-com> > > > > > > website, following my email, has solved the unlabelled links issue in > > the paid section of her site. > > > > > > Her site is great for learning English, and she's very sensitive to > > accessibility, which makes it worth following. > > > > > > Ciao, > > > > Ollie > > > > > > > > > > Il 27/12/2018 19:54, Mallard ha scritto: > > > Hello Gne, > > > > > > > > > Answers to all your questions is Yes. Different browsers (Edge, > > > Firefox (several versions), Different computers. > > > > > > Windows 10, Version 1803, but it started in 1703. > > > > > > > > > I wanted to send you pages, but they all require username and > password. > > > > > > > > > However, I've noticed that most of the time they are lists. For > > > example, in various sites the issue concerns lists of social media you > > > can share stuff on. > > > > > > > > > On another occasion, in > > > > > > > > > www.perfect-english-grammar-com > <http://www.perfect-english-grammar-com> > <http://www.perfect-english-grammar-com> > > > > > > > > > under the paid section called PEG Plus, you have this problem within > > > the list of courses. > > > > > > > > > If I come across some site that has free access to something like > > > that, I'll post it. > > > > > > > > > > > > By the way, I also tried to read the link name with Windows10 OCR, but > > > there was nothing to be read. > > > > > > > > > Ciao, > > > > > > Ollie > > > > > > ps: In the case of PEG Plus, I reported the issue to the owner of the > > > site. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
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Re: more and more unlabeled links with latest version of NVDA and Firefox
enes sarıbaş
hi Gene, 57 is indeed the release at which firefox switched to quantum.
This should be investigated by NVAccess and firefox.
On 12/27/2018 8:23 PM, Gene wrote:
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Re: outlook is working again...
molly the blind tech lover
well my tablet/outlook is fine now. i'm actually reinstalling windows on my other machine right now.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@...>
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2018 6:09:38 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] outlook is working again... I meant alt f or--not ro. Sorry about that.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io]
On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria via Groups.Io
Hi, Molly,
You can use either alt S ro control enter to send a message in outlook.
Hope this helps.
Rosemarie
From:
nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io]
On Behalf Of molly the blind tech lover
Wait… I’m confused. I thought the way to send emails in outlook was alt s.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
On Behalf Of marcio via Groups.Io
Just seeing if CTRL/ALT+S does anything as expected. Let's try it.
Cheers, Where to find me: Phone(s): Em 27/12/2018 03:59, Rosemarie Chavarria escreveu:
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Re: more and more unlabeled links with latest version of NVDA and Firefox
Gene
And who always starts them and is constantly angry
and rude in response to my rejoinders?
If this is your last word on this topic,
fine. that's your decision. You have not given good, well supported
opinions demonstrating that what I've said about using the intended commands for
their intended purposes is wrong. If you wish to do so, fine. If you
wish to say that that's what you want to do in your own use, fine. Do
whatever you want in your own use. If, however, you are saying, as
it appears you may be, that you would advocate that others follow this practice,
then I disagree with you vehemently and I will say that on list.
Gene
----- original Message -----
From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2018 5:16 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] more and more unlabeled links with latest
version of NVDA and Firefox You have been given feedback, multiple times on multiple topics by multiple people, about how you come across and you do not take any of that into account. Saying something like, "I'm sorry if it sounds to you like being dictatorial. It isn't," is simply not borne out by your own history. As I said earlier, your opinion, contrary to your own opinion, is not the only opinion nor the right opinion in all cases. People have different, and perfectly legitimate, ways of accomplishing the same tasks. I really do not need to be told by you how to use a generic link command, versus unvisited link command, versus visited link command. I know and understand all three very well. I also understand exactly what their intended purposes, note the plural, are and some of those do not comport with your personal opinion about what they are intended for. With this I'm done discussing this with you on this topic. I'm sick of having unnecessary pissing matches with you. -- Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763 A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep. ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back
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Re: more and more unlabeled links with latest version of NVDA and Firefox
Mallard <mallard@...>
Great! This is a very well-worded and thorough post.
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Thanks for your expanded explanation. I appreciate how seriously you take matters, Gene. I mean it. It's not a matter of what you say most of the time. I understand that you need to be brief, so things may come through harsher than you mean. Sorry for pointing it out publicly. I should have written to you off-list. Ciao, Ollie
Il 27/12/2018 23:46, Gene ha scritto:
Thank you for discussing the matter in a civil and civilized manner and for the compliments.
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