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Re: Add-on Updater: counting down to release of version 19.01.1 #addonrelease

Roger Stewart
 

Yes, and I clicked that button and heard the surprise!  Thanks Joseph for all you have done with nvda and its ad ons over the years!


Roger

On 1/1/2019 10:28 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi all,
The "surprise" will show up only once.
Also, "to let the cat out of the bag" (as they say), the "surprise" is not the text itself. If you listen to the dialog content carefully, you'll notice an interesting button. Clicking that button will reveal the "surprise".
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ron Canazzi
Sent: Tuesday, January 1, 2019 7:02 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Add-on Updater: counting down to release of version 19.01.1 #AddonRelease

Yeah, I mean when does this end?!


On 1/1/2019 3:23 AM, Ian Blackburn wrote:
Hopefully it doesn’t tell me happy New Year again tomorrow And
announces that each time you restart your screen reader Regards Ian On
1 Jan 2019, at 1:09 pm, Keao Wright <keaow@hawaii.rr.com> wrote:

I got the same thing, happy new year!

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Annette
Moore
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2018 7:08 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Add-on Updater: counting down to release of
version 19.01.1 #AddonRelease

It wasn't the audio message? That was a surprise to me. I thought that
was so cool! And Happy new Year to all of you! :)

Annette, who hopes she didn't give it away

On 12/31/2018 11:04 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
That's not the surprise. A keen user will know the surprise I'm
talking about.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shaun
Everiss
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2018 9:02 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Add-on Updater: counting down to release of
version
19.01.1 #AddonRelease

Wow, did that come through the addon or was it part of email.

This is interesting though, obviously for seecurity you would have to
be carefull, but some sort of daily message or something on new
things or whatever well that was good.

Then again you said a surprise was coming and well yeah.

I have never had a happy new year from my screenreader, thats novel.



On 1/1/2019 4:55 PM, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:
Hi Joseph


A good message to start the year with same back at you like a boomerang.


We are already 17 hours into the new year.


I will not copy and paste the message they will see when they update it.


Gene nz


On 31/12/2018 4:01 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi everyone,

Happy New Year (or New Year's Eve depending on where you are).

Sometime in 2019 (few seconds after midnight UTC on January 1, 2019
to be
exact), Add-on Updater 19.01.1 will make its appearance on any
computer running NVDA with this add-on installed. Although this is a
point release, it is a major release that resolves more compatibility
issues with Python 3 and simplifies certain portions of this add-on
source code. You will also find a surprise inside (shhh, you'll see
it after upgrading to that version).
Cheers,
Joseph

--
[Image NVDA certified expert]
Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related
material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where
you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can
use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To
find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit
http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries
(Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert
near you, please visit the following link
https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains
the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the
world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.









--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"







Re: Weather Plus 4.8 update available

Sarah k Alawami
 

Nice. Is there a way to include a list of locations? I normally check 3-5 locations for weather to keep an eye on my friends and family in said locations. I just grabbed the add on and will install it as soon as I can.

Take care

On 1 Jan 2019, at 6:45, Adriano Barbieri via Groups.Io wrote:

Good morning and happy new Year to every one,

Changes in this version:
#Changes in the Weather Plus Settings window:
•Added new checkbox;
"Use only weather effects";
This allows you to filter out all other environmental effects.
•Improved random playback and added 71 new sound effects;
You will need to update them by clicking twice in "enable audio effects"
check box.
•The volume type assigned by the user, between the general and current audio
volume, now is maintained when the configuration is saved.
•Removed useless sound during selection text in edit box by pressing
control+a.
•Improved readability into help window invokable with F1 function key.
•Added new compatibility flag for NVDA 2019.1, and the current alpha
versions.
Weather Plus can update alone, however, it is possible to download manually
from the following links:
http://www.nvda.it/files/plugin/weather_plus4.8.nvda-addon
or from page:
http://www.nvda.it/weather-plus/
or from page:
https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/weatherPlus.en.html
Make sure that the extension of the downloaded file is correct, otherwise
rename it in .nvda-addon.

Adriano Barbieri



Re: NVDA and Battleship and Memory games

Pascal Lambert <coccinelle86@...>
 

Hi Travis,
First happy new year to you. I thank you for replying to my request. I
found the Battleship game on the Ian Humphreys' web page. As for the memory
game, I believe it was written by Robert Bates years ago. I still have the
games but does not work with Win10. It is a sounds matching game with
different grids for difficulty level. I like it very much and it has helped
keep my memory sharp! I'll be very much interested in the game you wrote.
I look forward to getting the link for it. Again, many thanks.
Blessings.
Pascal

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Travis
Siegel
Sent: Tuesday, January 1, 2019 12:29 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Battleship and Memory games

Don't have a clue where to get the particular ones you asked for, but I have
had a battleship game posted on my softcon pages for more than 10 years, and
haven't received a single feedback message about it.

I also have a memory game I wrote for use with the raspberry pi, that I can
easily repurpose for windoes and post on the site as well, it's as simple as
recompiling the source code under windows, since it doesn't use any linux
specific features.  I'll get that done in the next day or two and post it up
with the battleship game too.

You can find the battleship game at:

http://www.softcon.com/files/


Re: DISM and SFC with remote support add-on

George McCoy <slr1bpz@...>
 

Thanks to both Isaac and Brian.  I think I'll go ahead and run the utilities.


George

On 12/31/2018 4:44 PM, Isaac wrote:
I have never had issues but I would also do some reading first just to see if others have reported bugs on microsoft forums and such.
----- Original Message ----- From: "George McCoy" <slr1bpz@charter.net>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2018 2:25 PM
Subject: [nvda] DISM and SFC with remote support add-on


Has anyone run these utilities on a remote machine using the nvda remote support add-on?

If so, did you encounter any issues?

I am concerned about losing control of the utilities in the event of an interrupted connection or incompatability issues between the remote support add-on and the DISM or SFC utilities.


Thanks,

George





Re: Add-on Updater: counting down to release of version 19.01.1 #addonrelease

Don H
 

Not sure I like addon developers adding personal messages to their addons. This one is harmless but others could not be.


Re: Add-on Updater: counting down to release of version 19.01.1 #addonrelease

 

Hi,

Nope, that’s not the surprise – that feature’s been there since the add-on’s early days.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Kingett
Sent: Tuesday, January 1, 2019 5:17 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Add-on Updater: counting down to release of version 19.01.1 #AddonRelease

 

Not sure if this is the surprise, but you can now tell which add ons to never update in the add ons settings, which can be found under the NVDA settings.

hit here to see my latest writing update.


Re: Add-on Updater: counting down to release of version 19.01.1 #addonrelease

 

Hi all,
The "surprise" will show up only once.
Also, "to let the cat out of the bag" (as they say), the "surprise" is not the text itself. If you listen to the dialog content carefully, you'll notice an interesting button. Clicking that button will reveal the "surprise".
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ron Canazzi
Sent: Tuesday, January 1, 2019 7:02 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Add-on Updater: counting down to release of version 19.01.1 #AddonRelease

Yeah, I mean when does this end?!


On 1/1/2019 3:23 AM, Ian Blackburn wrote:
Hopefully it doesn’t tell me happy New Year again tomorrow And
announces that each time you restart your screen reader Regards Ian On
1 Jan 2019, at 1:09 pm, Keao Wright <keaow@hawaii.rr.com> wrote:

I got the same thing, happy new year!

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Annette
Moore
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2018 7:08 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Add-on Updater: counting down to release of
version 19.01.1 #AddonRelease

It wasn't the audio message? That was a surprise to me. I thought that
was so cool! And Happy new Year to all of you! :)

Annette, who hopes she didn't give it away

On 12/31/2018 11:04 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
That's not the surprise. A keen user will know the surprise I'm
talking about.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shaun
Everiss
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2018 9:02 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Add-on Updater: counting down to release of
version
19.01.1 #AddonRelease

Wow, did that come through the addon or was it part of email.

This is interesting though, obviously for seecurity you would have to
be carefull, but some sort of daily message or something on new
things or whatever well that was good.

Then again you said a surprise was coming and well yeah.

I have never had a happy new year from my screenreader, thats novel.



On 1/1/2019 4:55 PM, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:
Hi Joseph


A good message to start the year with same back at you like a boomerang.


We are already 17 hours into the new year.


I will not copy and paste the message they will see when they update it.


Gene nz


On 31/12/2018 4:01 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi everyone,

Happy New Year (or New Year's Eve depending on where you are).

Sometime in 2019 (few seconds after midnight UTC on January 1, 2019
to be
exact), Add-on Updater 19.01.1 will make its appearance on any
computer running NVDA with this add-on installed. Although this is a
point release, it is a major release that resolves more compatibility
issues with Python 3 and simplifies certain portions of this add-on
source code. You will also find a surprise inside (shhh, you'll see
it after upgrading to that version).
Cheers,
Joseph

--
[Image NVDA certified expert]
Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related
material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where
you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can
use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To
find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit
http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries
(Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert
near you, please visit the following link
https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains
the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the
world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.












--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Re: Add-on Updater: counting down to release of version 19.01.1 #addonrelease

Ron Canazzi
 

Yeah, I mean when does this end?!

On 1/1/2019 3:23 AM, Ian Blackburn wrote:
Hopefully it doesn’t tell me happy New Year again tomorrow
And announces that each time you restart your screen reader
Regards Ian
On 1 Jan 2019, at 1:09 pm, Keao Wright <keaow@hawaii.rr.com> wrote:

I got the same thing, happy new year!

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Annette Moore
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2018 7:08 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Add-on Updater: counting down to release of version 19.01.1 #AddonRelease

It wasn't the audio message? That was a surprise to me. I thought that was so cool! And Happy new Year to all of you! :)

Annette, who hopes she didn't give it away

On 12/31/2018 11:04 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
That's not the surprise. A keen user will know the surprise I'm
talking about.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shaun
Everiss
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2018 9:02 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Add-on Updater: counting down to release of
version
19.01.1 #AddonRelease

Wow, did that come through the addon or was it part of email.

This is interesting though, obviously for seecurity you would have to
be carefull, but some sort of daily message or something on new things
or whatever well that was good.

Then again you said a surprise was coming and well yeah.

I have never had a happy new year from my screenreader, thats novel.



On 1/1/2019 4:55 PM, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:
Hi Joseph


A good message to start the year with same back at you like a boomerang.


We are already 17 hours into the new year.


I will not copy and paste the message they will see when they update it.


Gene nz


On 31/12/2018 4:01 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi everyone,

Happy New Year (or New Year's Eve depending on where you are).

Sometime in 2019 (few seconds after midnight UTC on January 1, 2019
to be
exact), Add-on Updater 19.01.1 will make its appearance on any
computer running NVDA with this add-on installed. Although this is a
point release, it is a major release that resolves more compatibility
issues with Python 3 and simplifies certain portions of this add-on
source code. You will also find a surprise inside (shhh, you'll see it
after upgrading to that version).
Cheers,
Joseph

--
[Image NVDA certified expert]
Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related
material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where
you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can
use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To
find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit
http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries
(Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert
near you, please visit the following link
https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains
the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world,
who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.











--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Weather Plus 4.8 update available

Adriano Barbieri
 

Good morning and happy new Year to every one,

Changes in this version:
#Changes in the Weather Plus Settings window:
•Added new checkbox;
"Use only weather effects";
This allows you to filter out all other environmental effects.
•Improved random playback and added 71 new sound effects;
You will need to update them by clicking twice in "enable audio effects"
check box.
•The volume type assigned by the user, between the general and current audio
volume, now is maintained when the configuration is saved.
•Removed useless sound during selection text in edit box by pressing
control+a.
•Improved readability into help window invokable with F1 function key.
•Added new compatibility flag for NVDA 2019.1, and the current alpha
versions.
Weather Plus can update alone, however, it is possible to download manually
from the following links:
http://www.nvda.it/files/plugin/weather_plus4.8.nvda-addon
or from page:
http://www.nvda.it/weather-plus/
or from page:
https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/weatherPlus.en.html
Make sure that the extension of the downloaded file is correct, otherwise
rename it in .nvda-addon.

Adriano Barbieri


Re: Add-on Updater: counting down to release of version 19.01.1 #addonrelease

 

Not sure if this is the surprise, but you can now tell which add ons to never update in the add ons settings, which can be found under the NVDA settings.

hit here to see my latest writing update.


Re: an accessible way to stream games.

 

Write to me off list with emails and stuff. Or, write to our advocacy group below. We mostly plan action, not discuss accessibility tutorials or similar. There's other lists for that. We have a contacts database and everything. We're not as well connected as any of the blindness orgs are, but we try.

team@accessmedia.groups.io

To subscribe, use the below email.

team+subscribe@accessmedia.groups.io


Re: Add-on Updater: counting down to release of version 19.01.1 #addonrelease

Ian Blackburn
 

Hopefully it doesn’t tell me happy New Year again tomorrow
And announces that each time you restart your screen reader
Regards Ian

On 1 Jan 2019, at 1:09 pm, Keao Wright <keaow@hawaii.rr.com> wrote:

I got the same thing, happy new year!

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Annette Moore
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2018 7:08 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Add-on Updater: counting down to release of version 19.01.1 #AddonRelease

It wasn't the audio message? That was a surprise to me. I thought that was so cool! And Happy new Year to all of you! :)

Annette, who hopes she didn't give it away

On 12/31/2018 11:04 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
That's not the surprise. A keen user will know the surprise I'm
talking about.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shaun
Everiss
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2018 9:02 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Add-on Updater: counting down to release of
version
19.01.1 #AddonRelease

Wow, did that come through the addon or was it part of email.

This is interesting though, obviously for seecurity you would have to
be carefull, but some sort of daily message or something on new things
or whatever well that was good.

Then again you said a surprise was coming and well yeah.

I have never had a happy new year from my screenreader, thats novel.



On 1/1/2019 4:55 PM, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:
Hi Joseph


A good message to start the year with same back at you like a boomerang.


We are already 17 hours into the new year.


I will not copy and paste the message they will see when they update it.


Gene nz


On 31/12/2018 4:01 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi everyone,

Happy New Year (or New Year's Eve depending on where you are).

Sometime in 2019 (few seconds after midnight UTC on January 1, 2019
to be
exact), Add-on Updater 19.01.1 will make its appearance on any
computer running NVDA with this add-on installed. Although this is a
point release, it is a major release that resolves more compatibility
issues with Python 3 and simplifies certain portions of this add-on
source code. You will also find a surprise inside (shhh, you'll see it
after upgrading to that version).
Cheers,
Joseph

--
[Image NVDA certified expert]
Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related
material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where
you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can
use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To
find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit
http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries
(Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert
near you, please visit the following link
https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains
the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world,
who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.






Re: How to use imo with nvda?

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

I've mot heard of this one. Is it like Skype?
I would suggest trying it firrst with the jaws demo version. I would suspect it might not work there either, in which case your beef will be with the makers of the software, as they may not actually include the information to allow screenreaders to work correctly. I see this a lot with software written for compiling on many different operating systems directly. They may look OK and work OK but they seldom use any windows routines for accessibility as they come.

Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Muklesur Rahman" <muklesju@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2018 4:35 PM
Subject: [nvda] How to use imo with nvda?


Hello, I installed imo to my laptop to connect with my friends as it is the most popular aps at present. But I can not use imo with nvda as nvda does not read all of it's contents. Even, I fail to receive any call. Is there any solution?


Re: NVDA elequence question

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

I think he was thinking of The IBM Via Voice talking web browser voice from the days of Windows 98..
I still have that but being Sapi 4, its of limited use nowadays and although it sounds very much like Eloquence its is not quite as good, I use the word good advisedly, as I don't like Eloquence very much myself.


If you like artificial voices rather than the real sounding ones, then I guess Espeak for UK English speakers is still very good and fast.
I have to nail my colours to the mast here as I wrote a few of the variants in NVDA back some years ago.
Quincy seems to be the most popular one for things like laptops. its not so resonant as the normal voice.
I am loathe to suggest the Speech player in Espeak add on, as it will probably not work well in the next version of nvda unless it gets tweaked but for now at least it has a passing resemblance to Eloquence without being actionable!

Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris via Groups.Io" <chrismedley=btinternet.com@groups.io>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2018 5:52 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA elequence question


Nope, never has and probably never will


From: Darren Harris via Groups.Io
Sent: 31 December 2018 14:50
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA elequence question

Wasn’t there a free version of it? I thought that there was?

On 31 Dec 2018, at 14:41, Chris via Groups.Io <chrismedley=btinternet.com@groups.io> wrote:
You will have to pay for the code factory after the trial has finished
After the trial period it will work no more until a licence is purchased


From: Darren Harris via Groups.Io
Sent: 31 December 2018 14:22
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA elequence question

Hi all,

I have installed the code factory eloquence voice on my GPD win 2. I have 2 days left of the trial of eloquence. At the end of it, do I have to buy the eloquence voices? Or do they revert to a free version of eloquence? I have eloquence on my other machine but I never paid for that as it shipped with my laptop when I purchased it. So am not sure about this.


Re: NVDA elequence question

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

Well if you paid for it and its stopped working you can of course legitimately contact the vendor and they should sort you out. I think one of the problems we have encountered in the past was that after a certain version, Jaws stopped allowing outside software to use any speech synth they supplied with their software. This meant that in some peoples eyes, they had to buy the same voice twice. Thus somebody wrote a hack to allow the voices to be used in NVDA.
At that time I did speak to in those days Freedom Scientific and they told me that the stipulation that it could only be used with Jaws was a condition of allowing them to supply the voices, one assumes, it cost them less to licence them this way.


Brian
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Darren Harris via Groups.Io" <darren_g_harris=btinternet.com@groups.io>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2018 5:34 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA elequence question


Well I certainly haven't gotten a hacked version of it. It's probably the sappy version which I assumed I could still get with the latest version of NVDA by that I mean a clean install.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: 31 December 2018 15:51
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA elequence question

Not really, There were sound alikes around that worked as sapi 4, but they have issues, and there was a hacked version which was buggy which we cannot discuss here for legal reasons.


Brian

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From: "Darren Harris via Groups.Io"
<darren_g_harris=btinternet.com@groups.io>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2018 2:50 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA elequence question


Wasn’t there a free version of it? I thought that there was?
On 31 Dec 2018, at 14:41, Chris via Groups.Io
<chrismedley=btinternet.com@groups.io> wrote:

You will have to pay for the code factory after the trial has finished
After the trial period it will work no more until a licence is purchased


From: Darren Harris via Groups.Io
Sent: 31 December 2018 14:22
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA elequence question

Hi all,

I have installed the code factory eloquence voice on my GPD win 2. I have
2 days left of the trial of eloquence. At the end of it, do I have to buy
the eloquence voices? Or do they revert to a free version of eloquence? I
have eloquence on my other machine but I never paid for that as it shipped
with my laptop when I purchased it. So am not sure about this.




Re: NVDA elequence question

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

Yes but you might come unstuck if that vehicle was stolen!
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Howard Traxler" <howard@traxlerenterprises.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2018 5:15 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA elequence question


Agree, Gene; however, (and I won't waste any more space on this) I know
I can't commit slander or libel or promote crime. But if I were on an
automotive list of some kind, I could ask a technical question relating
to a vehicle in my garage that I didn't pay for.


That's all; I'm through.

On 12/31/2018 11:06 AM, Gene wrote:
If a list allows such discussions, it is opened to legal liability.
It is illegal to use such programs. Promoting their use is illegal
and lists that allow it may be shut down by the owner of whatever list
serve the list is on and, though very unlikely, the list could have
legal action taken against it by the owner of whatever intellectual
property is being used illegally.
And you can't discuss anything or say anything you want anywhere. You
can't commit slander or libel. You can't use speech to provoke violence.
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Howard Traxler <mailto:howard@traxlerenterprises.com>
*Sent:* Monday, December 31, 2018 10:42 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] NVDA elequence question

Please help my understanding:


Why can I not talk about something that is illegal to buy, sell, or
own? I can talk about anything else that I can think of; illegal or
not. Just so long as I don't obtain it or offer it for sale. I think
the sensors on many of these mailing lists are a bit too cautious. Is
my thinkingg wrong?


Howard

On 12/31/2018 9:50 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
Not really, There were sound alikes around that worked as sapi 4, but
they have issues, and there was a hacked version which was buggy which
we cannot discuss here for legal reasons.


Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Darren Harris via Groups.Io"
<darren_g_harris=btinternet.com@groups.io
<mailto:darren_g_harris=btinternet.com@groups.io>>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>>
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2018 2:50 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA elequence question


Wasn’t there a free version of it? I thought that there was?
On 31 Dec 2018, at 14:41, Chris via Groups.Io
<chrismedley=btinternet.com@groups.io
<mailto:chrismedley=btinternet.com@groups.io>> wrote:

You will have to pay for the code factory after the trial has finished
After the trial period it will work no more until a licence is
purchased


From: Darren Harris via Groups.Io
Sent: 31 December 2018 14:22
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] NVDA elequence question

Hi all,

I have installed the code factory eloquence voice on my GPD win 2. I
have 2 days left of the trial of eloquence. At the end of it, do I
have to buy the eloquence voices? Or do they revert to a free version
of eloquence? I have eloquence on my other machine but I never paid
for that as it shipped with my laptop when I purchased it. So am not
sure about this.












Re: NVDA elequence question

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Also nvaccess cannot be seen in any way to condone illegal activity, its fine if you want to set up your own list and do it, but responsible organisations have to be seen to be working within the law. Who is going to donate or fund anyone who condones ripping off a company?
Anyway we have had this discussion here many times before and its getting rather like Grroundhog day.
Read the rules of groups.io and the moderators guidelines for this list before getting annoyed.
We do not make the world we all have to live within its rules.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2018 5:06 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA elequence question


If a list allows such discussions, it is opened to legal liability. It is illegal to use such programs. Promoting their use is illegal and lists that allow it may be shut down by the owner of whatever list serve the list is on and, though very unlikely, the list could have legal action taken against it by the owner of whatever intellectual property is being used illegally.

And you can't discuss anything or say anything you want anywhere. You can't commit slander or libel. You can't use speech to provoke violence.
----- Original Message -----

From: Howard Traxler
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2018 10:42 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA elequence question


Please help my understanding:


Why can I not talk about something that is illegal to buy, sell, or
own? I can talk about anything else that I can think of; illegal or
not. Just so long as I don't obtain it or offer it for sale. I think
the sensors on many of these mailing lists are a bit too cautious. Is
my thinkingg wrong?


Howard

On 12/31/2018 9:50 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
Not really, There were sound alikes around that worked as sapi 4, but
they have issues, and there was a hacked version which was buggy which
we cannot discuss here for legal reasons.


Brian

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briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff'
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Darren Harris via Groups.Io"
<darren_g_harris=btinternet.com@groups.io>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2018 2:50 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA elequence question


Wasn’t there a free version of it? I thought that there was?
On 31 Dec 2018, at 14:41, Chris via Groups.Io
<chrismedley=btinternet.com@groups.io> wrote:

You will have to pay for the code factory after the trial has finished
After the trial period it will work no more until a licence is purchased


From: Darren Harris via Groups.Io
Sent: 31 December 2018 14:22
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA elequence question

Hi all,

I have installed the code factory eloquence voice on my GPD win 2. I
have 2 days left of the trial of eloquence. At the end of it, do I
have to buy the eloquence voices? Or do they revert to a free version
of eloquence? I have eloquence on my other machine but I never paid
for that as it shipped with my laptop when I purchased it. So am not
sure about this.










Re: NVDA and Battleship and Memory games

Travis Siegel <tsiegel@...>
 

Don't have a clue where to get the particular ones you asked for, but I have had a battleship game posted on my softcon pages for more than 10 years, and haven't received a single feedback message about it.

I also have a memory game I wrote for use with the raspberry pi, that I can easily repurpose for windoes and post on the site as well, it's as simple as recompiling the source code under windows, since it doesn't use any linux specific features.  I'll get that done in the next day or two and post it up with the battleship game too.

You can find the battleship game at:

http://www.softcon.com/files/


Re: Add-on Updater: counting down to release of version 19.01.1 #addonrelease

 

I got the same thing, happy new year!

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Annette Moore
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2018 7:08 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Add-on Updater: counting down to release of version 19.01.1 #AddonRelease

It wasn't the audio message? That was a surprise to me. I thought that was so cool! And Happy new Year to all of you! :)

Annette, who hopes she didn't give it away

On 12/31/2018 11:04 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
That's not the surprise. A keen user will know the surprise I'm
talking about.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shaun
Everiss
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2018 9:02 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Add-on Updater: counting down to release of
version
19.01.1 #AddonRelease

Wow, did that come through the addon or was it part of email.

This is interesting though, obviously for seecurity you would have to
be carefull, but some sort of daily message or something on new things
or whatever well that was good.

Then again you said a surprise was coming and well yeah.

I have never had a happy new year from my screenreader, thats novel.



On 1/1/2019 4:55 PM, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:
Hi Joseph


A good message to start the year with same back at you like a boomerang.


We are already 17 hours into the new year.


I will not copy and paste the message they will see when they update it.


Gene nz


On 31/12/2018 4:01 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi everyone,

Happy New Year (or New Year's Eve depending on where you are).

Sometime in 2019 (few seconds after midnight UTC on January 1, 2019
to be
exact), Add-on Updater 19.01.1 will make its appearance on any
computer running NVDA with this add-on installed. Although this is a
point release, it is a major release that resolves more compatibility
issues with Python 3 and simplifies certain portions of this add-on
source code. You will also find a surprise inside (shhh, you'll see it
after upgrading to that version).
Cheers,
Joseph

--
[Image NVDA certified expert]
Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related
material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where
you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can
use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To
find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit
http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries
(Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert
near you, please visit the following link
https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains
the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world,
who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.






Re: Add-on Updater: counting down to release of version 19.01.1 #addonrelease

Annette Moore
 

It wasn't the audio message? That was a surprise to me. I thought that was so cool! And Happy new Year to all of you! :)

Annette, who hopes she didn't give it away

On 12/31/2018 11:04 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
That's not the surprise. A keen user will know the surprise I'm talking
about.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shaun Everiss
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2018 9:02 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Add-on Updater: counting down to release of version
19.01.1 #AddonRelease

Wow, did that come through the addon or was it part of email.

This is interesting though, obviously for seecurity you would have to be
carefull, but some sort of daily message or something on new things or
whatever well that was good.

Then again you said a surprise was coming and well yeah.

I have never had a happy new year from my screenreader, thats novel.



On 1/1/2019 4:55 PM, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:
Hi Joseph


A good message to start the year with same back at you like a boomerang.


We are already 17 hours into the new year.


I will not copy and paste the message they will see when they update it.


Gene nz


On 31/12/2018 4:01 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi everyone,

Happy New Year (or New Year's Eve depending on where you are).

Sometime in 2019 (few seconds after midnight UTC on January 1, 2019 to be
exact), Add-on Updater 19.01.1 will make its appearance on any computer
running NVDA with this add-on installed. Although this is a point release,
it is a major release that resolves more compatibility issues with Python 3
and simplifies certain portions of this add-on source code. You will also
find a surprise inside (shhh, you'll see it after upgrading to that
version).
Cheers,
Joseph

--
[Image NVDA certified expert]
Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related
material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are
in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of
the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which
locations (or location) is near to you please visit
http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa
People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please
visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The
certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals
from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert
exam.