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a situation with NVDA 2018.4 and windows 7

Bill Sallander
 

Greetings everyone and happy 2019.

I’ve recently installed NVDA 2018.4 on a Windows 7 laptop for a client.

It seems when I launch NVDA after this update, it seems to bring up the command prompt for Windows 7 as well.

I’ve changed the shortcut to a different key combination thinking that might fix the problem but no good.

Has anyone else had this same issue and if so what was the trick?

 

Bill Sallander

Assistive Technology Instructor

Center For The visually Impaired

1187 Dunn Avenue

Daytona Beach, Florida 32114

bsallander@...

(386)253-8879 Ext. 109

 


Re: Add-on Updater: counting down to release of version 19.01.1 #addonrelease

 

A bit late on this but anyway...
After thinking about this matter I ended up setting up the signature option to just appear on my emails if they aren't answers to others.
That is, every email I send and it's not an answer, yes my signature will keep appearing. However, when answering another email, it won't.
Sorry for don't do it before.

Cheers,
Marcio

Em 02/01/2019 13:54, Antony Stone escreveu:

I would certainly recommend making the signature much shorter - sixteen lines
is in my opinion rather excessive.

The same applies to some other people posting on this list - please consider
whether the information in your signature:

a) needs to be sent to the list with every message at all

b) could be abbreviated to occupy fewer lines of text

c) could be completely replaced with a URL to a web page where the information
is available for people who are interested.

Also, please remember that "-- " (dash dash space) on one line by itself is
the standard separator for putting at the start of email signatures, and which
many mail clients will recognise and then avoid duplicating that line and the
text beneath it when replying to a message.

This can help greatly to keep the length of replies shorter.

Regards, and happy new year,

Antony.

On Wednesday 02 January 2019 at 05:50:29, marcio via Groups.Io wrote:

I thought my signature could be a problem when it comes to my answers on
the lists, but didn't find a way to avoid it.
You think I should turn it off? There's a way to prevent it only in the
emails to the lists?
Any help would be much appreciated.


Re: Add-on Updater: counting down to release of version 19.01.1 #addonrelease

 

Hi,
Just for curiosity, how can I enable this command?
That is, whenever I try to use this one at the run dialog it shows me a message that Windows couldn't found it.
So what should I do to make this work?
Em 02/01/2019 21:45, Joseph Lee escreveu:

Hi,

One possible way to silence his new year message is:

  1. Quit NVDA (NVDA+Q, and if exit dialog shows up, select “quit”).
  2. Wait up to a minute, then start NVDA.

 

The other way is deleting a wave file:

  1. Go to Start and type “explore NVDA user configuration directory” and press Enter.
  2. Go to “addons” folder, then go to “addonUpdater” folder.
  3. Look for a file that starts with “joslee” and delete it.
  4. Close the folder and restart NVDA.

 

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Abbie Taylor
Sent: Wednesday, January 2, 2019 3:42 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Add-on Updater: counting down to release of version 19.01.1 #AddonRelease

 

Ever since I updated the add-on, Joseph Lee's Happy New Year message pops up whenever I start NVDA. How do I keep that from happening?
--
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http://www.abbiejohnsontaylor.com
http://abbiescorner.wordpress.com
abbietaylor945@...



Re: Browse mode and focus

Felix G.
 

Hi!
I'm excited and enthusiastic about this. What accessibility needs are
interfaces that don't just work in principle but are delightful to
use; or to put it bluntly, a user experience that does not suck,
driven by people who do not think being dissatisfied means being
ungrateful.
@Tony do you have the resources to make a try build? Otherwise I'll do
it in just a few days when i'm back where my tech stuff is.
@Joseph that research project sounds interesting. Can you give a pointer please?
Best,
Felix


Am Di., 1. Jan. 2019 um 01:35 Uhr schrieb marcio via Groups.Io
<marcinhorj21=yahoo.com.br@groups.io>:


Sure, so I'm going to try Super Browser to see what it's like. Taking the risk, of course, but it's all about experiments :)
Thanks for the answer.

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Em 31/12/2018 22:32, Tony Malykh escreveu:

This is not an andd-on, this is rather a pull request - a patch for
NVDA. It does very similar things but in a much cleaner way.
SuperBrowser add-on was experimental, since it broke many things. Pull
request I prepared cannot be installed - rather NVDA devs should
hopefully merge it into the next release of NVDA, but it speeds up
browsing experience without breaking anything (hopefully - it doesn't
break anything for me, but more testing might reveal more problems).

On 12/31/18, marcio via Groups.Io <marcinhorj21=yahoo.com.br@groups.io> wrote:

Hello Tony,
Could you please tell me the differences between this add-on and the old
called Super Browser?
I downloaded the latter I said but have never tested it.

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Em 31/12/2018 22:14, Tony Malykh escreveu:

I have created a pull request that speeds up browse mode. Now I hope
NVDA devs will be kind enough to accept it:
https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/pull/9114

Basically it creates a new mode in NVDA that can be toggled on and off
by pressing NVDA+8 (remember to uninstall my SuperBrowser add-on that
overrides the same keystroke). In this mode system focus doesn't
follow browse mode and the entire browsing experience is much smoother
on my computer. Edit boxes don't steal your focus without your
permission either.

--Tony


On 12/29/18, Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@gmail.com> wrote:

If they approve, can you put this on the central repo for the add ons?
This seems very useful.

Take care

On 28 Dec 2018, at 21:57, David Goldfield wrote:

Tony,

I meant to thank you for this addon. As you say it does seem to
improve responsiveness while accessing the Web and so I'm very
grateful that you took the time to write and release this.

Thank you for your service.

David Goldfield, Assistive Technology Specialist
WWW.David-Goldfield.Com<http://WWW.David-Goldfield.Com>
On 12/25/2018 2:47 PM, Tony Malykh wrote:

I just wrote a tiny add-on that prevents NVDA from sending focus
events to the browser.
Binary:
https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fmltony%2Fnvda-super-browser%2Freleases%2Fdownload%2Fv0.1dev%2Fsuperbrowser-0.1dev.nvda-addon&;data=02%7C01%7C%7C3154617091b9454bcc3608d66aa1c72b%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636813640388529360&amp;sdata=eTebXXud1KO6xO2fZbS5GsH%2BOfft7%2B2s94W7ItAVCQQ%3D&amp;reserved=0
Source and description:
https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fmltony%2Fnvda-super-browser%2F&;data=02%7C01%7C%7C3154617091b9454bcc3608d66aa1c72b%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636813640388529360&amp;sdata=mrmdXsR7tcB76B%2BRMmiDNu3wIqzO05CGCc7X3jNQfas%3D&amp;reserved=0
Press NVDA+8 to turn focus sending to browsers on and off.
It's not a production-ready add-on, as it introduces a lot of side
effects when not sending focus events. However, it'll give you an idea
how much faster and more responsive your browsing experience might
become without these focus events being sent back and forth.


On 12/21/18, Gene <gsasner@gmail.com><mailto:gsasner@gmail.com> wrote:


Are you sure you have automatic switching off in NVDA? I never have
browse
mode turn off when I have the automatic switching feature off. I have
repeatedly said that automatic switching should not be on by default.
It is
not a setting that people should have on unless they know about it and
understand exactly how it works.

And to confuse unknowledgeable and learning users more, it
automatically
switches modes when you move in some ways and it doesn't switch when
you
move in other ways. People learning how to use the internet should
not have
this feature confusing them and making it harder to learn.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Tony Malykh
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2018 1:11 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] Browse mode and focus


I must also add that edit boxes sporadically entering forms mode is a
very big problem for me. At work I have to use a website that contains
an edit box that somehow always enters forms mode and once this
happens, the web site opens a popup dialog somewhere in the end of the
page and brings the focus there. So there is no easy way to go past
that edit box and the entire website becomes unusable. I know, this is
probably not a very screenreader-friendly website, but Jaws manages to
work fine with it somehow. I would say that this problem is one of the
major disadvantages of NVDA compared to Jaws.

On 12/21/18, Tony Malykh via Groups.Io
<anton.malykh=gmail.com@groups.io><mailto:anton.malykh=gmail.com@groups.io>
wrote:


Hi Felix,
I experience all the same problems as you described: rubber band
browse mode cursor jumping back on large webpages, and also edit boxes
automatically entering forms mode even though I didn't ask them to.
It's good to know that this is a known issue, but this indeed seems
like a complicated issue to fix.
1. It seems to me that adding a switch like "browse mode cursor moves
system focus" would be a very useful fix in the short term. We already
have a "caret moves review cursor" switch bound to NVDA+6 - so it
seems to be just a question of adding another switch like this. I have
to say that most of the web sites work fine for me with current NVDA
behavior, and for those websites that don't work very well, this new
switch might come very handy.
2. Do you know how Jaws works around this problem? Do they not update
system focus at all when in browse mode? Or they only update it when
they realise that some other gesture might require updated focus?

Best
Tony


On 12/21/18, Felix G.
<constantlyvariable@gmail.com><mailto:constantlyvariable@gmail.com>
wrote:


Just found a ticket on this problem:
https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fnvaccess%2Fnvda%2Fissues%2F2039&;data=02%7C01%7C%7C3154617091b9454bcc3608d66aa1c72b%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636813640388529360&amp;sdata=%2BjIsiaGma9V0Ym0juy2COLOD1v1Dq9HThNIY3tzkOpE%3D&amp;reserved=0
Best,
Felix

Am Fr., 21. Dez. 2018 um 15:51 Uhr schrieb Felix G. via Groups.Io
<constantlyvariable=gmail.com@groups.io><mailto:constantlyvariable=gmail.com@groups.io>:



Hello Gene,
exactly, that's what I am referring to: A way to move the browse mode
cursor through a page without triggering events in the browser. It
would feel lightning-fast, as it would only involve changing a
position in an internal textual representation fully managed by NVDA
in its own process space. When hitting enter or the space bar to
interact with something, focus could then be brought to that object.
The analogy in the sighted world is that of a touch screen: Just
looking at the contents does not generate events, and is therefore not
slowed down by anything the browser needs to handle.
I am calling those events focus changes because technically that's
what they are. Focus, in this context, is the Windows concept defined
as a control's responsibility for handling keyboard input. It's hard
to describe without leaving a lot of dangling terms as it's a very
technical notion in Windows programming.
Best,
Felix

Am Fr., 21. Dez. 2018 um 15:29 Uhr schrieb Gene
<gsasner@gmail.com><mailto:gsasner@gmail.com>:



I may Have misunderstood what you want to do and I may not have the
technical knowledge to fully understand what you want changed. Are
you
talking about being able to move through a web page and have browse
mode
just show you the page, as though you had copied it into something
like
Notepad? In that case, you would move, but nothing would ever be
triggered on the page as you move. But you seem to be discussing
this
related to a feature that allows a person to see where the blind
person
is on the page. If so, why are you assuming they are related? Isn't
there already a setting to turn off this feature, used by sighted
instructors or others working with a blind person?

Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2018 8:14 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] Browse mode and focus

I suspect that the JAWS cursor may see the web page text when NVDA
review doesn't.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2018 5:06 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] Browse mode and focus

Probably not, but if you can explain a little more clearly when you
need
to
have it as you describe then we might be a bit wiser. Remember not
everyone
has Jaws or uses all if its features, so we may learn something here.
Brian

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Please address personal E-mail to:-
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Felix G."
<constantlyvariable@gmail.com><mailto:constantlyvariable@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io><mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2018 9:29 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Browse mode and focus




Hello Marcio,
I could only find checkboxes dealing with the conditions for
automatically switching to focus mode, but nothing related to focus
changes. Those are completely different concepts. Are you sure we
are
on the same page?
Best,
Felix

Am Fr., 21. Dez. 2018 um 09:45 Uhr schrieb marcio via Groups.Io
<marcinhorj21=yahoo.com.br@groups.io><mailto:marcinhorj21=yahoo.com.br@groups.io>:



Hello,
You can configure it through the Settings, which can be found at
the
NVDA
Menu (NVDA+N).
Search for browse mode, then uncheck the boxes on automatic change
or
something like that. I don't know how it should appear because I'm
not
using NVDA in English, but I hope it can help you somehow.

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Em 21/12/2018 05:53, Felix G. escreveu:

Hello list,
I'd like to ask how to keep focus from following the browse mode
cursor. While this behavior may often be desirable, there are many
instances in which it unnecessarily slows down the browsing
experience
as NVDA needs to constantly keep track of focus events, deciding
whether or not they are related to browse mode cursor movements.
With
unfortunate timing, NVDA sometimes fails to associate a browse
mode
cursor action with its corresponding focus event and bounces back
a
few lines or switches to forms mode because it thinks focus has
changed asynchronously on behalf of the website rather than the
user.
The sighted world analogy of moving the browse mode cursor is
simply
reading, which should not be associated with so many events in the
browser.
If anyone would like to try out how the other behavior, as also
seen
in JAWS, would feel in terms of speed: Go to a complex website and
then navigate in browse mode, but not using the standard arrow
keys
but instead the review cursor (numpad 7 and numpad 9).
All the best,
Felix

































































Re: Add-on Updater: counting down to release of version 19.01.1 #addonrelease

Sarah k Alawami
 

No issue here. I just saw it once, and that's it. Did you restart the computer or nvda to make sure it actually does appear?

Take care

On 2 Jan 2019, at 15:42, Abbie Taylor wrote:

Ever since I updated the add-on, Joseph Lee's Happy New Year message pops up whenever I start NVDA. How do I keep that from happening?
--
Abbie Johnson Taylor, Author
http://www.abbiejohnsontaylor.com
http://abbiescorner.wordpress.com
abbietaylor945@...


Re: Add-on Updater: counting down to release of version 19.01.1 #addonrelease

 

I have only had it do it once.

On that note, where is the surprize in the message I have read the entire thing, I think someone needs to spill the beans on what the surprise actually is.

After I read the message I hit the close button and its gone.

One thing though, every time I install updates to addons, when nvda closes there is always a ghost systray icon left, this suggests things don't fully exit right.

Its not a big issue but it does make me wander if something is not unloading right.

On 1/3/2019 12:42 PM, Abbie Taylor wrote:
Ever since I updated the add-on, Joseph Lee's Happy New Year message pops up whenever I start NVDA. How do I keep that from happening?
--
Abbie Johnson Taylor, Author
http://www.abbiejohnsontaylor.com
http://abbiescorner.wordpress.com
abbietaylor945@gmail.com



Re: Add-on Updater: counting down to release of version 19.01.1 #addonrelease

 

Hi,

One possible way to silence his new year message is:

  1. Quit NVDA (NVDA+Q, and if exit dialog shows up, select “quit”).
  2. Wait up to a minute, then start NVDA.

 

The other way is deleting a wave file:

  1. Go to Start and type “explore NVDA user configuration directory” and press Enter.
  2. Go to “addons” folder, then go to “addonUpdater” folder.
  3. Look for a file that starts with “joslee” and delete it.
  4. Close the folder and restart NVDA.

 

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Abbie Taylor
Sent: Wednesday, January 2, 2019 3:42 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Add-on Updater: counting down to release of version 19.01.1 #AddonRelease

 

Ever since I updated the add-on, Joseph Lee's Happy New Year message pops up whenever I start NVDA. How do I keep that from happening?
--
Abbie Johnson Taylor, Author
http://www.abbiejohnsontaylor.com
http://abbiescorner.wordpress.com
abbietaylor945@...


Re: Add-on Updater: counting down to release of version 19.01.1 #addonrelease

Abbie Taylor <abbietaylor945@...>
 

Ever since I updated the add-on, Joseph Lee's Happy New Year message pops up whenever I start NVDA. How do I keep that from happening?
--
Abbie Johnson Taylor, Author
http://www.abbiejohnsontaylor.com
http://abbiescorner.wordpress.com
abbietaylor945@...


Re: Braille Extender: Output tables

John J. Boyer
 

In my setup the tableds you want are there by default when BrailleExtender is installed. I am using a Focus 40, and
have to press two of the thumb keys. That may make a difference.

John

On Wed, Jan 02, 2019 at 03:50:18PM -0600, Rob Hudson wrote:
BrailleExtender version: Version 18.12.14-141407
NVDA 2018.4
Windows 10, 1809
I want to select
English, (U.S.) Grade2
as primary table and
English (U.S.) 6-dot computer braille
as secondary. This way I can press a hotkey in order to read NLS or bookshare brf books.
I navigate to the table in the first combo box by down arrow, and press spacebar until it says
Output only
I then tab to the secondary table combo box and select the one I want there, see above.
I press enter, thinking my configuration is saved.
I press the hotkey to switch tables, and get the message:
You must choose at least two tables for this feature. Please fill in the settings
I navigate back to the braille tables dialog and see primary table is
Arabic grade 1: none
Why are my settings not being saved?


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that are available at no cost


Re: windows power shell

John Isige
 

Make sure you have "report dynamic content changes on", you can toggle it with NVDA-5 on the number row. If that's off, it won't read anything.

On 1/2/2019 16:45, Robert Doc Wright godfearer wrote:
I tried to go into this to search for zune music which is suppose to have something to do with groove music. Once I opened it I could do nothing else. NVDA seem to just freeze up.


windows power shell

Robert Doc Wright godfearer
 

I tried to go into this to search for zune music which is suppose to have something to do with groove music. Once I opened it I could do nothing else. NVDA seem to just freeze up.


Braille Extender: Output tables

Rob Hudson
 

BrailleExtender version: Version 18.12.14-141407
NVDA 2018.4
Windows 10, 1809
I want to select
English, (U.S.) Grade2
as primary table and
English (U.S.) 6-dot computer braille
as secondary. This way I can press a hotkey in order to read NLS or bookshare brf books.
I navigate to the table in the first combo box by down arrow, and press spacebar until it says
Output only
I then tab to the secondary table combo box and select the one I want there, see above.
I press enter, thinking my configuration is saved.
I press the hotkey to switch tables, and get the message:
You must choose at least two tables for this feature. Please fill in the settings
I navigate back to the braille tables dialog and see primary table is
Arabic grade 1: none
Why are my settings not being saved?


Re: Just testing, please ignore it

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

Yes this happens a lot. I suspect that for a few days the servers at groups.io get on a black list for spamming, or perhaps some subject line pushes list mail over the score for spam marking at the ISP.
Hi seems to be a common word in the subject line that does this.
Brian

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briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff'
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----- Original Message -----
From: "marcio via Groups.Io" <marcinhorj21=yahoo.com.br@groups.io>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2019 1:12 PM
Subject: [nvda] Just testing, please ignore it


I just found out that somehow emails from some lists are again going to my spam folder. So am sending this one to see if I can see the copy of it.

Cheers


Re: nvda remote version 2.2 bug

Josh Kennedy
 

maybe that is it. maybe he did not let it through windows firewall on his end. i put NVDA remote on his computer because he is not very good with computers and sometimes i have to remote in and hellp him out of some situations he gets into by accident. 


Re: Add-on Updater: counting down to release of version 19.01.1 #addonrelease

Antony Stone
 

I would certainly recommend making the signature much shorter - sixteen lines
is in my opinion rather excessive.

The same applies to some other people posting on this list - please consider
whether the information in your signature:

a) needs to be sent to the list with every message at all

b) could be abbreviated to occupy fewer lines of text

c) could be completely replaced with a URL to a web page where the information
is available for people who are interested.

Also, please remember that "-- " (dash dash space) on one line by itself is
the standard separator for putting at the start of email signatures, and which
many mail clients will recognise and then avoid duplicating that line and the
text beneath it when replying to a message.

This can help greatly to keep the length of replies shorter.

Regards, and happy new year,

Antony.

On Wednesday 02 January 2019 at 05:50:29, marcio via Groups.Io wrote:

I thought my signature could be a problem when it comes to my answers on
the lists, but didn't find a way to avoid it.
You think I should turn it off? There's a way to prevent it only in the
emails to the lists?
Any help would be much appreciated.
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Please reply to the list;
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Re: Add-on Updater: counting down to release of version 19.01.1 #addonrelease

Gene
 

I don't know enough about signatures to know about that.  Others can discuss the matter more.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2019 10:50 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Add-on Updater: counting down to release of version 19.01.1 #AddonRelease

I thought my signature could be a problem when it comes to my answers on the lists, but didn't find a way to avoid it.
You think I should turn it off? There's a way to prevent it only in the emails to the lists?
Any help would be much appreciated.
Em 02/01/2019 02:29, Gene escreveu:
Yes.  I didn't realize that the previous messages are there.  I'm sorry I wrote my message as I did but I thought they weren't there because I downarrowed through all sorts of information about how to follow you and contact you in lots of ways.  by the time I had downarrowed seven or eight times, I thought no quoted material had been included.  Maybe you should have something as a part of your signature for list mail that previous messages are included below your contact information, which takes and then whatever the number of lines is, seven or eight.  . 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2019 10:09 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Add-on Updater: counting down to release of version 19.01.1 #AddonRelease

But all the emails on this thread are included on my last answer, aren't they?

Em 02/01/2019 02:01, Gene escreveu:
Since you include no material from the message you are commenting on and you don't refer to what you are commenting on, your messages of this type are meaningless. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2019 9:49 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Add-on Updater: counting down to release of version 19.01.1 #AddonRelease

Agreed!
Em 02/01/2019 01:41, Kwork escreveu:
Hopefully never. LOL!

Seriously, why are we complaining about a nice dose of positivity from our developers? I don't get it.

Travis

On 1/1/2019 8:02 AM, Ron Canazzi wrote:
Yeah, I mean when does this end?!


On 1/1/2019 3:23 AM, Ian Blackburn wrote:
Hopefully it doesn’t tell me happy New Year again tomorrow
And announces that each time you restart your screen reader
Regards Ian
On 1 Jan 2019, at 1:09 pm, Keao Wright <keaow@...> wrote:

I got the same thing, happy new year!

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Annette Moore
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2018 7:08 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Add-on Updater: counting down to release of version 19.01.1 #AddonRelease

It wasn't the audio message? That was a surprise to me. I thought that was so cool! And Happy new Year to all of you! :)

Annette, who hopes she didn't give it away

On 12/31/2018 11:04 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
That's not the surprise. A keen user will know the surprise I'm
talking about.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shaun
Everiss
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2018 9:02 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Add-on Updater: counting down to release of
version
19.01.1 #AddonRelease

Wow, did that come through the addon or was it part of email.

This is interesting though, obviously for seecurity you would have to
be carefull, but some sort of daily message or something on new things
or whatever well that was good.

Then again you said a surprise was coming and well yeah.

I have never had a happy new year from my screenreader, thats novel.



On 1/1/2019 4:55 PM, hurrikennyandopo .. wrote:
Hi Joseph


A good message to start the year with same back at you like a boomerang.


We are already 17 hours into the new year.


I will not copy and paste the message they will see when they update it.


Gene nz


On 31/12/2018 4:01 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi everyone,

Happy New Year (or New Year's Eve depending on where you are).

Sometime in 2019 (few seconds after midnight UTC on January 1, 2019
to be
exact), Add-on Updater 19.01.1 will make its appearance on any
computer running NVDA with this add-on installed. Although this is a
point release, it is a major release that resolves more compatibility
issues with Python 3 and simplifies certain portions of this add-on
source code. You will also find a surprise inside (shhh, you'll see it
after upgrading to that version).
Cheers,
Joseph

-- 
[Image NVDA          certified expert]
Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related
material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where
you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can
use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To
find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit
http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries
(Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert
near you, please visit the following link
https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains
the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world,
who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.

























Re: Add-on Updater: counting down to release of version 19.01.1 #addonrelease

Kwork
 

Gene, the original was actually there. If you scroll down far enough, you'll find he was replying to my message.

Travis

1/1/2019 9:01 PM, Gene wrote:

Since you include no material from the message you are commenting on and you don't refer to what you are commenting on, your messages of this type are meaningless. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2019 9:49 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Add-on Updater: counting down to release of version 19.01.1 #AddonRelease

Agreed!
Em 02/01/2019 01:41, Kwork escreveu:
Hopefully never. LOL!

Seriously, why are we complaining about a nice dose of positivity from our developers? I don't get it.

Travis

On 1/1/2019 8:02 AM, Ron Canazzi wrote:
Yeah, I mean when does this end?!


On 1/1/2019 3:23 AM, Ian Blackburn wrote:
Hopefully it doesn’t tell me happy New Year again tomorrow
And announces that each time you restart your screen reader
Regards Ian
On 1 Jan 2019, at 1:09 pm, Keao Wright <keaow@...> wrote:

I got the same thing, happy new year!

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Annette Moore
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2018 7:08 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Add-on Updater: counting down to release of version 19.01.1 #AddonRelease

It wasn't the audio message? That was a surprise to me. I thought that was so cool! And Happy new Year to all of you! :)

Annette, who hopes she didn't give it away

On 12/31/2018 11:04 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
That's not the surprise. A keen user will know the surprise I'm
talking about.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shaun
Everiss
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2018 9:02 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Add-on Updater: counting down to release of
version
19.01.1 #AddonRelease

Wow, did that come through the addon or was it part of email.

This is interesting though, obviously for seecurity you would have to
be carefull, but some sort of daily message or something on new things
or whatever well that was good.

Then again you said a surprise was coming and well yeah.

I have never had a happy new year from my screenreader, thats novel.



On 1/1/2019 4:55 PM, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:
Hi Joseph


A good message to start the year with same back at you like a boomerang.


We are already 17 hours into the new year.


I will not copy and paste the message they will see when they update it.


Gene nz


On 31/12/2018 4:01 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi everyone,

Happy New Year (or New Year's Eve depending on where you are).

Sometime in 2019 (few seconds after midnight UTC on January 1, 2019
to be
exact), Add-on Updater 19.01.1 will make its appearance on any
computer running NVDA with this add-on installed. Although this is a
point release, it is a major release that resolves more compatibility
issues with Python 3 and simplifies certain portions of this add-on
source code. You will also find a surprise inside (shhh, you'll see it
after upgrading to that version).
Cheers,
Joseph

-- 
[Image NVDA          certified expert]
Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related
material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where
you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can
use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To
find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit
http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries
(Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert
near you, please visit the following link
https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains
the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world,
who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.























Re: Highbernating windows 10

 

Hi,

A few years ago I wrote an explanatory email on this very subject, which can be found at:

https://win10.groups.io/g/win10/topic/1607659?p=,,,20,0,0,0::Created,,%23backstagetour,20,2,0,1607659,ct=1&ct=1

The post should answer most questions people here have (just like it did on another forum).

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, January 2, 2019 5:55 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Highbernating windows 10

 

On Tue, Jan 1, 2019 at 11:12 PM, Isaac wrote:

ONe thing I don't understand however is if the machine is turned off from the shutdown with powercfg on if power is lost is there a problem or when the boot starts has the system hybernation file that has been made still access?

A hibernation file is just that:  a file.  Whether the system has power or not is completely irrelevant.  Even with Fast Startup enabled the system is completely powered down, but if the boot sequence finds a hibernation file it will use it as part of the boot.

It's held on disc, which is non-volatile.

Hibernation, whether full or fast start, does not depend on battery power in any way.  It works the same on a desktop or laptop and you can unplug the device for however long you like between when you shut it down and power it up again (barring long enough to kill the CMOS battery, which would typically take years).
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

          ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back

 

 


Re: Highbernating windows 10

 

On Tue, Jan 1, 2019 at 11:12 PM, Isaac wrote:
ONe thing I don't understand however is if the machine is turned off from the shutdown with powercfg on if power is lost is there a problem or when the boot starts has the system hybernation file that has been made still access?
A hibernation file is just that:  a file.  Whether the system has power or not is completely irrelevant.  Even with Fast Startup enabled the system is completely powered down, but if the boot sequence finds a hibernation file it will use it as part of the boot.

It's held on disc, which is non-volatile.

Hibernation, whether full or fast start, does not depend on battery power in any way.  It works the same on a desktop or laptop and you can unplug the device for however long you like between when you shut it down and power it up again (barring long enough to kill the CMOS battery, which would typically take years).
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

          ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back

 

 


Just testing, please ignore it

 

I just found out that somehow emails from some lists are again going to my spam folder. So am sending this one to see if I can see the copy of it.

Cheers