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how to record audio from the computer with no mic plugged in sure could use some help.

Sue J. Ward
 

Hello. Does anyone know of any audio recording software that works with NVDA with no mic attached to the computer? I want to record a lot of internal stuff from my computer with no mic attached. I have tried audacity with everything they suggested when reading the user guide to make it work no such luck since am using windows 10. Lets just say if I want to record a radio station or anything from my computer what type of program could I use with NVDA? I have heard of total recorder and gold wave would those programs work since I do have everything up to date and I did check in the recording section and I have no stereo mics on my sound card. Have any of you used sound tap or any apps with in the app store to get anything to work with NVDA? I have tried everything with the line in jack nothing. Or maybe I am not setting it up right. Any suggestions would be excellent. Thank you.
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What you get when you try pressing enter on the file?

Cheers,
Marcio

Em 03/01/2019 22:21, Ervin, Glenn escreveu:

Hi,

I tried installing an add-on, and entering on it did not ask me to add it.

Did NVDA start using a new extension for add-ons?

Glenn

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Add-Ons

Ervin, Glenn
 

Hi,

I tried installing an add-on, and entering on it did not ask me to add it.

Did NVDA start using a new extension for add-ons?

Glenn

 

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Re: nvda doesn't announce the start menu after pressing the windows key

 

Are you using the Win 10 App Essentials add-on? If not, try using it and see what happens.
You can find it at the NVDA add-ons website.
Hth

Cheers,
Marcio


Em 03/01/2019 21:39, molly the blind tech lover escreveu:

Hey guys, Molly here again.

For some reason 99 percent of the time Nvda doesn�t announce that I�m on the start menu when I press the windows logo key. I press it and Nvda says nothing at all. It�s happening on both machines. It�s frustrating because I�m needing to access different folders and I want to search for them using the start menu.

Do you have any ideas on what could be causing this?

Running windows 10 home, build 17763 on both machines.

Thanks.


Re: nvda doesn't announce the start menu after pressing the windows key

molly the blind tech lover
 

Hi.

I’ve been experiencing this issue ever since my machines received build 17763.  

Very odd.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2019 6:52 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda doesn't announce the start menu after pressing the windows key

 

I believe I have the same issue. In fact I think I saw it yesterday. I have the essentials add o installed if that makes a difference, which it probably does not. I hope it is a fluke for both of us.

Running windows 10 1809. I have to look up the nvda version but it is the latest beta build, that much I know.

On 3 Jan 2019, at 15:39, molly the blind tech lover wrote:

Hey guys, Molly here again.

For some reason 99 percent of the time Nvda doesn’t announce that I’m on the start menu when I press the windows logo key. I press it and Nvda says nothing at all. It’s happening on both machines. It’s frustrating because I’m needing to access different folders and I want to search for them using the start menu.

Do you have any ideas on what could be causing this?

Running windows 10 home, build 17763 on both machines.

Thanks.

Re: nvda doesn't announce the start menu after pressing the windows key

molly the blind tech lover
 

Thanks.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2019 6:53 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda doesn't announce the start menu after pressing the windows key

 

You should easily be able to confirm where you are.  I don't use Windows 10 but one or both of these commands should tell you directly or indirectly where you are:

Try NVDA key t for the title bar.  Also try NVDA key tab, which reads the current control you are on. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2019 5:39 PM

Subject: [nvda] nvda doesn't announce the start menu after pressing the windows key

 

Hey guys, Molly here again.

For some reason 99 percent of the time Nvda doesn’t announce that I’m on the start menu when I press the windows logo key. I press it and Nvda says nothing at all. It’s happening on both machines. It’s frustrating because I’m needing to access different folders and I want to search for them using the start menu.

Do you have any ideas on what could be causing this?

Running windows 10 home, build 17763 on both machines.

Thanks.

Re: nvda doesn't announce the start menu after pressing the windows key

Sarah k Alawami
 

In my case I hearthe edit field as I have an add on that plays sounds, but yeah I remember it did say start menu. For me a restart of nvda works fine.

Take care

On 3 Jan 2019, at 15:52, Gene wrote:

You should easily be able to confirm where you are.  I don't use Windows 10 but one or both of these commands should tell you directly or indirectly where you are:
Try NVDA key t for the title bar.  Also try NVDA key tab, which reads the current control you are on. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2019 5:39 PM
Subject: [nvda] nvda doesn't announce the start menu after pressing the windows key

Hey guys, Molly here again.

For some reason 99 percent of the time Nvda doesn’t announce that I’m on the start menu when I press the windows logo key. I press it and Nvda says nothing at all. It’s happening on both machines. It’s frustrating because I’m needing to access different folders and I want to search for them using the start menu.

Do you have any ideas on what could be causing this?

Running windows 10 home, build 17763 on both machines.

Thanks.

Re: nvda doesn't announce the start menu after pressing the windows key

Sarah k Alawami
 

I believe I have the same issue. In fact I think I saw it yesterday. I have the essentials add o installed if that makes a difference, which it probably does not. I hope it is a fluke for both of us.

Running windows 10 1809. I have to look up the nvda version but it is the latest beta build, that much I know.

On 3 Jan 2019, at 15:39, molly the blind tech lover wrote:

Hey guys, Molly here again.

For some reason 99 percent of the time Nvda doesn’t announce that I’m on the start menu when I press the windows logo key. I press it and Nvda says nothing at all. It’s happening on both machines. It’s frustrating because I’m needing to access different folders and I want to search for them using the start menu.

Do you have any ideas on what could be causing this?

Running windows 10 home, build 17763 on both machines.

Thanks.

Re: nvda doesn't announce the start menu after pressing the windows key

Gene
 

You should easily be able to confirm where you are.  I don't use Windows 10 but one or both of these commands should tell you directly or indirectly where you are:
Try NVDA key t for the title bar.  Also try NVDA key tab, which reads the current control you are on. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2019 5:39 PM
Subject: [nvda] nvda doesn't announce the start menu after pressing the windows key

Hey guys, Molly here again.

For some reason 99 percent of the time Nvda doesn’t announce that I’m on the start menu when I press the windows logo key. I press it and Nvda says nothing at all. It’s happening on both machines. It’s frustrating because I’m needing to access different folders and I want to search for them using the start menu.

Do you have any ideas on what could be causing this?

Running windows 10 home, build 17763 on both machines.

Thanks.

nvda doesn't announce the start menu after pressing the windows key

molly the blind tech lover
 

Hey guys, Molly here again.

For some reason 99 percent of the time Nvda doesn’t announce that I’m on the start menu when I press the windows logo key. I press it and Nvda says nothing at all. It’s happening on both machines. It’s frustrating because I’m needing to access different folders and I want to search for them using the start menu.

Do you have any ideas on what could be causing this?

Running windows 10 home, build 17763 on both machines.

Thanks.

Re: Add-on Updater: counting down to release of version 19.01.1 #addonrelease

Sarah k Alawami
 

Ah. I restarted my computer, actually it was a cold start hence why I have only ben getting theemessage once. It was pretty neat though, thanks for that and happy new year.

On 3 Jan 2019, at 13:42, Roger Stewart wrote:

Joseph gave a fix for this this morning. You just shut down nvda, wait about a minute or so, then restart it.  Then it is gone. I also rebooted my computer and the message did not appear so the problem is fixed now.

Roger










On 1/3/2019 2:19 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

How odd. Can you reinstall the add on? Maybe that will fix it?

On 3 Jan 2019, at 8:10, Roger Stewart wrote:

I'm having the same problem here.  This is the third morning I've seen that message and there is no button that says don't show this dialog again or anything. I just hit the escape key right away and it is gone until the next reboot.

Roger










On 1/2/2019 10:03 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

No issue here. I just saw it once, and that's it. Did you restart the computer or nvda to make sure it actually does appear?

Take care

On 2 Jan 2019, at 15:42, Abbie Taylor wrote:

Ever since I updated the add-on, Joseph Lee's Happy New Year message pops up whenever I start NVDA. How do I keep that from happening?
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http://abbiescorner.wordpress.com
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Re: Add-on Updater: counting down to release of version 19.01.1 #addonrelease

Roger Stewart
 

I saw a message from Joseph that a new version is out now and it removes the message. I haven't seen the update here yet, but the fix I did earlier has fixed it for now. Will probably get the new version tomorrow morning when I start up again.

Roger







On 1/3/2019 4:14 PM, P. Otter wrote:
hi I've the same problem.
every morning i hear the same story.
is it possible to create an update that stops it.
This is really annoying and that is probably not the intention
cheers Paul Otter
Op 3-1-2019 om 21:19 schreef Sarah k Alawami:

How odd. Can you reinstall the add on? Maybe that will fix it?

On 3 Jan 2019, at 8:10, Roger Stewart wrote:

I'm having the same problem here.  This is the third morning I've seen that message and there is no button that says don't show this dialog again or anything. I just hit the escape key right away and it is gone until the next reboot.

Roger










On 1/2/2019 10:03 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

No issue here. I just saw it once, and that's it. Did you restart the computer or nvda to make sure it actually does appear?

Take care

On 2 Jan 2019, at 15:42, Abbie Taylor wrote:

Ever since I updated the add-on, Joseph Lee's Happy New Year message pops up whenever I start NVDA. How do I keep that from happening?
--
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http://www.abbiejohnsontaylor.com
http://abbiescorner.wordpress.com
abbietaylor945@...




Re: Add-on Updater: counting down to release of version 19.01.1 #addonrelease

P. Otter
 

hi I've the same problem.
every morning i hear the same story.
is it possible to create an update that stops it.
This is really annoying and that is probably not the intention
cheers Paul Otter
Op 3-1-2019 om 21:19 schreef Sarah k Alawami:

How odd. Can you reinstall the add on? Maybe that will fix it?

On 3 Jan 2019, at 8:10, Roger Stewart wrote:

I'm having the same problem here.  This is the third morning I've seen that message and there is no button that says don't show this dialog again or anything. I just hit the escape key right away and it is gone until the next reboot.

Roger










On 1/2/2019 10:03 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

No issue here. I just saw it once, and that's it. Did you restart the computer or nvda to make sure it actually does appear?

Take care

On 2 Jan 2019, at 15:42, Abbie Taylor wrote:

Ever since I updated the add-on, Joseph Lee's Happy New Year message pops up whenever I start NVDA. How do I keep that from happening?
--
Abbie Johnson Taylor, Author
http://www.abbiejohnsontaylor.com
http://abbiescorner.wordpress.com
abbietaylor945@...



Re: Add-on Updater: counting down to release of version 19.01.1 #addonrelease

Roger Stewart
 

Joseph gave a fix for this this morning. You just shut down nvda, wait about a minute or so, then restart it.  Then it is gone. I also rebooted my computer and the message did not appear so the problem is fixed now.

Roger










On 1/3/2019 2:19 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

How odd. Can you reinstall the add on? Maybe that will fix it?

On 3 Jan 2019, at 8:10, Roger Stewart wrote:

I'm having the same problem here.  This is the third morning I've seen that message and there is no button that says don't show this dialog again or anything. I just hit the escape key right away and it is gone until the next reboot.

Roger










On 1/2/2019 10:03 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

No issue here. I just saw it once, and that's it. Did you restart the computer or nvda to make sure it actually does appear?

Take care

On 2 Jan 2019, at 15:42, Abbie Taylor wrote:

Ever since I updated the add-on, Joseph Lee's Happy New Year message pops up whenever I start NVDA. How do I keep that from happening?
--
Abbie Johnson Taylor, Author
http://www.abbiejohnsontaylor.com
http://abbiescorner.wordpress.com
abbietaylor945@...



Re: NVDA elequence question

Gene
 

The issue isn't just legal protection, though I consider that a valid consideration.  NVDA relies on a reputation for not engaging in questionable activities in terms of its promotion and this list is a part of that mechanism to develop and keep such a reputation.  NVDA gets grants from various companies, Microsoft, Mozilla, and I don't know who else might provide grants.  It is unwise to have a major organ for discussion and promotion of NVDA that allows questionable content.
 
Obviously, you can't stop all discussion.  Someone is going to make some comment or mention some illegal product.  but to allow such discussion to continue is tantamount to the list owner endorsing the discussion, which is a very bad idea for reasons I've already discussed.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2019 2:24 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA elequence question

It must then either be a groups.io issue or lack of cooperation by the
admins when explicitly requested. Anyway, there's no need to share the
link directly over here, the fact that such a discussion even exists
probably made a lot of people open up their Googles and that's all they
needed. The addon isn't especially hard to find, so I think discussing
it and not sharing it would be the best option. Those who really want it
will find it eventually, those who prefer to stay on the legal side
won't even look for it. I don't think there are people who are able to
install addons but aren't able to make a simple Google query, so I don't
see the point in sharing the link directly if it might get us into
trouble. Those people should know that such a thing exists and that it
is illegal, as it's not clearly indicated on the addons website. That's
why most people think there's a free legal Eloquence.

BTW if groups.io is really that keen on shutting down list for such a
reason (they probably are too lazy to deal with DMCas) then I'm very
uncertain as to this list's future. If it gets big enough, something
will eventually happen whether we want it or not and they might shut the
list down. It might be illegal content, obscene language or whatever
else we might deem appropriate but they won't. I would recommend looking
for alternatives like Googlegroups. Google is much bigger, probably less
whimsy and their skin might be a bit thicker, though we'd have to see
about that.


W dniu 2019-01-03 o 19:42, Gene pisze:
> I don't know if others on list know more about the law in the United
> States.  I do know that many lists have been shut down in the last year
> or two for illegally sharing material such as books and movies.  The
> owner of this list serve has done so.  I don't know who else may have,
> but such is not allowed on this list serve and probably elsewhere.
> Gene
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* mikolaj holysz <mailto:miki123211@...>
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 03, 2019 11:34 AM
> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] NVDA elequence question
>
>
>  > If a list allows such discussions, it is opened to legal liability.  It
>  > is illegal to use such programs.  Promoting their use is illegal and
>  > lists that allow it may be shut down by the owner of whatever list serve
>  > the list is on and, though very unlikely, the list could have legal
>  > action taken against it by the owner of whatever intellectual property
>  > is being used illegally.
> Can I ask for a source of that info, please? This is definitely untrue
> in most countries. An admin is not and will never be responsible for
> what it's users post, if that weren't true, no one would dare to make
> web 2.0 websites (like Facebook, Wordpress etc). The only responsibility
> of the admin is to remove content from their website if they get an
> official letter from a copyright owner stating that this content is
> illegal, with all the necessary statements. I don't know why many admins
> in the blind community think otherwise. Even so, no law can prohibit
> discussing such content if it's not shared. Discussing how much such a
> content is worth is, in most cases, allowed. That's why the /r/piracy
> Reddit flourishes and Reddit itself doesn't do anything about it. They
> don't have to. THey have a strict "no posting of content" policy. They
> only put general links to websites, not even direct links to content,
> and they're perfectly fine, even though most of that subreddit consists
> of threads like "is downloading xxx from torrents safe" or "on what
> website can I get books in language xxx for free". Discussing technical
> processes used to make cracks or avoid drm might be illegal, though. If
> there's someone who can be sued, it's definitely the developer of such
> cracked software, and probably the one who put it there, maybe the one
> who posted the link but that's questionable.
>
> Of course the information presented above should not be considered legal
> advice, and actually doing some reading is recommended. Doing some
> reading is always recommended, blindly repeating what others have said
> never does us much good, and actually that's what many website owners
> do, that's why we have that Eloquence and GDPR dramas in the first
> place. Most of that is wildly unnecessary. I personally think that
> admins (of websites in general) should do as little as the law allows
> them to, respond to whatever they're obliged to respond and not overdo
> it out of fear.
>
>
>



Re: NVDA elequence question

Antony Stone
 

I think the fundamental point here is that the people, the developers and the
company behind NVDA do not want to be associated in any way with discussion of
illegal activity.

Therefore, if you want to discuss it, do it somewhere else.

That's a policy which the operators of this list have decided upon, and anyone
subscribing to list is expected to go along with it.

Most mailing lists (and similar forums, groups, etc, which are basically the
same thing by another name) have rules which subscribers are expected /
required to abide by, and this is one of the rules for this list.

Regards,


Antony.

On Thursday 03 January 2019 at 21:24:00, mikolaj holysz wrote:

It must then either be a groups.io issue or lack of cooperation by the
admins when explicitly requested. Anyway, there's no need to share the
link directly over here, the fact that such a discussion even exists
probably made a lot of people open up their Googles and that's all they
needed. The addon isn't especially hard to find, so I think discussing
it and not sharing it would be the best option. Those who really want it
will find it eventually, those who prefer to stay on the legal side
won't even look for it. I don't think there are people who are able to
install addons but aren't able to make a simple Google query, so I don't
see the point in sharing the link directly if it might get us into
trouble. Those people should know that such a thing exists and that it
is illegal, as it's not clearly indicated on the addons website. That's
why most people think there's a free legal Eloquence.

BTW if groups.io is really that keen on shutting down list for such a
reason (they probably are too lazy to deal with DMCas) then I'm very
uncertain as to this list's future. If it gets big enough, something
will eventually happen whether we want it or not and they might shut the
list down. It might be illegal content, obscene language or whatever
else we might deem appropriate but they won't. I would recommend looking
for alternatives like Googlegroups. Google is much bigger, probably less
whimsy and their skin might be a bit thicker, though we'd have to see
about that.

W dniu 2019-01-03 o 19:42, Gene pisze:
I don't know if others on list know more about the law in the United
States. I do know that many lists have been shut down in the last year
or two for illegally sharing material such as books and movies. The
owner of this list serve has done so. I don't know who else may have,
but such is not allowed on this list serve and probably elsewhere.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
*From:* mikolaj holysz <mailto:miki123211@...>
*Sent:* Thursday, January 03, 2019 11:34 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] NVDA elequence question

> If a list allows such discussions, it is opened to legal liability.
> It is illegal to use such programs. Promoting their use is illegal
> and lists that allow it may be shut down by the owner of whatever
> list serve the list is on and, though very unlikely, the list could
> have legal action taken against it by the owner of whatever
> intellectual property is being used illegally.

Can I ask for a source of that info, please? This is definitely untrue
in most countries. An admin is not and will never be responsible for
what it's users post, if that weren't true, no one would dare to make
web 2.0 websites (like Facebook, Wordpress etc). The only responsibility
of the admin is to remove content from their website if they get an
official letter from a copyright owner stating that this content is
illegal, with all the necessary statements. I don't know why many admins
in the blind community think otherwise. Even so, no law can prohibit
discussing such content if it's not shared. Discussing how much such a
content is worth is, in most cases, allowed. That's why the /r/piracy
Reddit flourishes and Reddit itself doesn't do anything about it. They
don't have to. THey have a strict "no posting of content" policy. They
only put general links to websites, not even direct links to content,
and they're perfectly fine, even though most of that subreddit consists
of threads like "is downloading xxx from torrents safe" or "on what
website can I get books in language xxx for free". Discussing technical
processes used to make cracks or avoid drm might be illegal, though. If
there's someone who can be sued, it's definitely the developer of such
cracked software, and probably the one who put it there, maybe the one
who posted the link but that's questionable.

Of course the information presented above should not be considered legal
advice, and actually doing some reading is recommended. Doing some
reading is always recommended, blindly repeating what others have said
never does us much good, and actually that's what many website owners
do, that's why we have that Eloquence and GDPR dramas in the first
place. Most of that is wildly unnecessary. I personally think that
admins (of websites in general) should do as little as the law allows
them to, respond to whatever they're obliged to respond and not overdo
it out of fear.
--
A good conversation is like a miniskirt;
short enought to retain interest,
but long enough to cover the subject.

- Celeste Headlee


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please *don't* CC me.

Re: Add-on Updater: counting down to release of version 19.01.1 #addonrelease

 

Hi,

Actually, I just pushed 19.01.1A that’ll remove the audio surprise (yes, the audio was the surprise), and also includes Italian translation.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2019 12:20 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Add-on Updater: counting down to release of version 19.01.1 #AddonRelease

 

How odd. Can you reinstall the add on? Maybe that will fix it?

On 3 Jan 2019, at 8:10, Roger Stewart wrote:

I'm having the same problem here.  This is the third morning I've seen that message and there is no button that says don't show this dialog again or anything. I just hit the escape key right away and it is gone until the next reboot.

 

Roger

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On 1/2/2019 10:03 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

No issue here. I just saw it once, and that's it. Did you restart the computer or nvda to make sure it actually does appear?

Take care

On 2 Jan 2019, at 15:42, Abbie Taylor wrote:

Ever since I updated the add-on, Joseph Lee's Happy New Year message pops up whenever I start NVDA. How do I keep that from happening?
--
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http://www.abbiejohnsontaylor.com
http://abbiescorner.wordpress.com
abbietaylor945@...

 

Re: a situation with NVDA 2018.4 and windows 7

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

Indeed it does. That can happen if the user logs out and onto a different user and then there is a bad shutdown.
I'm not sure if one can recover from that easily without possible going back to a time before the problem, but even then, it can still happen.
It is interesting that ease of access is an option on the screen you go to when you start to log out of a user account.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Lee" <@joslee>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2019 5:36 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] a situation with NVDA 2018.4 and windows 7


Hi,
This might not be the case. Based on the log I got, it appears Ease of Access (utilman.exe) is run when NVDA starts. This indicates a corrupt registry key.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2019 9:19 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] a situation with NVDA 2018.4 and windows 7

I wonder, at some time was the old version launched by a batch file in some way, rather than by the shortcut?
If you do this, depending on how you do it, sometimes a command window opens. However, normally its just a session with no prompt, as exit did not appear in the batch file that launched it. I use this to boot a known good version of nvda with the log of the Previous version when I need the log not to be overwritten by anything.
Normally if there are two shortcuts on the desktop with the same shortcut, both do not launch together!

I use Windows 7 every day and have probably run most flavours of NVDA on it both portable and installed and have never seen anything lie an open command prompt at all.
When was the machine actually last shut down completely and a reboot done?
Odd things can happen if you keep windows in sleep or standby after a software update which is not to windows itself.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Sallander" <bsallander@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2019 3:48 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] a situation with NVDA 2018.4 and windows 7


Its being launched in the following manners.
1: I have it automatically start at the logon screen. After it boots to the
desktop is when the command prompt will show.
When I type the word "exit", the command prompt will disappear and I'm left
with the desktop.
I have also launched NVDA using the created shortcut. I would still get the
same results.
I've even gone ahead and changed the hotkey combination but the same thing
still accurse.
There was a previous version on the machine, but it was not working at all.
Therefore, I was not able to get the actual version.
I finally downloaded a fresh copy of the program and installed it.
I also noticed that there was a folder from the older installation, I
deleted that and started everything fresh. There still might be an old file
from older version floating somewhere that might be the cause of this issue.


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Antony
Stone
Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2019 10:40 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] a situation with NVDA 2018.4 and windows 7

1. How are you launching NVDA (and getting the command prompt at the same
time)?

2. What do you mean by "update"? Was a previous version of NVDA installed
on this machine? If so, which version was it and how did you do the update?


Antony.

On Thursday 03 January 2019 at 16:25:31, Bill Sallander wrote:

Greetings everyone and happy 2019.

I’ve recently installed NVDA 2018.4 on a Windows 7 laptop for a client.

It seems when I launch NVDA after this update, it seems to bring up the
command prompt for Windows 7 as well.

I’ve changed the shortcut to a different key combination thinking that
might fix the problem but no good.

Has anyone else had this same issue and if so what was the trick?



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Re: NVDA elequence question

mikolaj holysz <miki123211@...>
 

It must then either be a groups.io issue or lack of cooperation by the admins when explicitly requested. Anyway, there's no need to share the link directly over here, the fact that such a discussion even exists probably made a lot of people open up their Googles and that's all they needed. The addon isn't especially hard to find, so I think discussing it and not sharing it would be the best option. Those who really want it will find it eventually, those who prefer to stay on the legal side won't even look for it. I don't think there are people who are able to install addons but aren't able to make a simple Google query, so I don't see the point in sharing the link directly if it might get us into trouble. Those people should know that such a thing exists and that it is illegal, as it's not clearly indicated on the addons website. That's why most people think there's a free legal Eloquence.

BTW if groups.io is really that keen on shutting down list for such a reason (they probably are too lazy to deal with DMCas) then I'm very uncertain as to this list's future. If it gets big enough, something will eventually happen whether we want it or not and they might shut the list down. It might be illegal content, obscene language or whatever else we might deem appropriate but they won't. I would recommend looking for alternatives like Googlegroups. Google is much bigger, probably less whimsy and their skin might be a bit thicker, though we'd have to see about that.


W dniu 2019-01-03 o 19:42, Gene pisze:

I don't know if others on list know more about the law in the United States.  I do know that many lists have been shut down in the last year or two for illegally sharing material such as books and movies.  The owner of this list serve has done so.  I don't know who else may have, but such is not allowed on this list serve and probably elsewhere.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
*From:* mikolaj holysz <mailto:miki123211@...>
*Sent:* Thursday, January 03, 2019 11:34 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] NVDA elequence question

> If a list allows such discussions, it is opened to legal liability.  It
> is illegal to use such programs.  Promoting their use is illegal and
> lists that allow it may be shut down by the owner of whatever list serve
> the list is on and, though very unlikely, the list could have legal
> action taken against it by the owner of whatever intellectual property
> is being used illegally.
Can I ask for a source of that info, please? This is definitely untrue
in most countries. An admin is not and will never be responsible for
what it's users post, if that weren't true, no one would dare to make
web 2.0 websites (like Facebook, Wordpress etc). The only responsibility
of the admin is to remove content from their website if they get an
official letter from a copyright owner stating that this content is
illegal, with all the necessary statements. I don't know why many admins
in the blind community think otherwise. Even so, no law can prohibit
discussing such content if it's not shared. Discussing how much such a
content is worth is, in most cases, allowed. That's why the /r/piracy
Reddit flourishes and Reddit itself doesn't do anything about it. They
don't have to. THey have a strict "no posting of content" policy. They
only put general links to websites, not even direct links to content,
and they're perfectly fine, even though most of that subreddit consists
of threads like "is downloading xxx from torrents safe" or "on what
website can I get books in language xxx for free". Discussing technical
processes used to make cracks or avoid drm might be illegal, though. If
there's someone who can be sued, it's definitely the developer of such
cracked software, and probably the one who put it there, maybe the one
who posted the link but that's questionable.
Of course the information presented above should not be considered legal
advice, and actually doing some reading is recommended. Doing some
reading is always recommended, blindly repeating what others have said
never does us much good, and actually that's what many website owners
do, that's why we have that Eloquence and GDPR dramas in the first
place. Most of that is wildly unnecessary. I personally think that
admins (of websites in general) should do as little as the law allows
them to, respond to whatever they're obliged to respond and not overdo
it out of fear.

Re: Add-on Updater: counting down to release of version 19.01.1 #addonrelease

Sarah k Alawami
 

How odd. Can you reinstall the add on? Maybe that will fix it?

On 3 Jan 2019, at 8:10, Roger Stewart wrote:

I'm having the same problem here.  This is the third morning I've seen that message and there is no button that says don't show this dialog again or anything. I just hit the escape key right away and it is gone until the next reboot.

Roger










On 1/2/2019 10:03 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

No issue here. I just saw it once, and that's it. Did you restart the computer or nvda to make sure it actually does appear?

Take care

On 2 Jan 2019, at 15:42, Abbie Taylor wrote:

Ever since I updated the add-on, Joseph Lee's Happy New Year message pops up whenever I start NVDA. How do I keep that from happening?
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