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Re: new NVDA user with a question

 

Hi,

I’m thinking it must be the Basic Training, as it mentions 2017. Mine covers 2018.1, and apart from significant changes made to NVDA’s own user interface in recent releases, most of what I describe is applicable to later releases (to whoever’s going to produce the fourth edition unless the community overwhelmingly says I should in 2020, you must redo preferences sections to include settings categories and how to navigate the new interface). I hope NV Access can come up with a brand new update to Basic Training module so people can learn from latest developments (and for some, renew our certification to say 2019).

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Wednesday, January 9, 2019 3:12 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] new NVDA user with a question

 

Where did the NVDA tutorial come from?  I think that is an old version.

 

Is it the one by Joseph Lee?

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2019 10:11 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] new NVDA user with a question

 

Hi

 

the best bet is to use the updated versions of those files.

 

Just in case you did not know if you installed a copy of nvda and nvda is not running use the alkt key + ctrl key + the letter N to start your copy of nvda.

to get into the preferences of nvda where you can make changes use the nvda key + letter N. Under the help section will be where you will find the user manual etc. Under the settings section is where you will make most of your changes.

to quit your copy of nvda use the nvda key + letter Q

 

Where i refer to the modifier key this is either the insert key, the extended insert key or the caps lock key. You might of chosen one of these like the insert key then you would use the letter Q to quit your copy of nvda.

 

 

I would have to go back and see what the other question was to answer it.

 

Ask the questions and some one on the list will point you in the right direction.

 

Gene nz

 

On 9/01/2019 3:24 PM, Troy Burnham wrote:

Hi all,


I installed what I assume is the latest version of NVDA, ending in a 4, yesterday and since I've been meaning to make the jump to NVDA for quite a while I already had some files saved to help me get started but the help files appear to be for version 2017.2. The help files I have are an NVDA tutorial, a basic training for NVDA file, a commands quick reference guide, and a user guide but since the executable that's in the same folder with these files is for NVDA 2017.2 and I have the version ending in 4 installed I just wanted to know if the help files I have are still compatible.


Thanks.


Troy





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Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which location (or locations) are nearest to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa).
To find out which software is installed on the APNK network please visit the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/software To find out how to use NVDA on APNK computers please visit the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/nvda
 

To find out which software is available on the Christchurch City Library network, and how to start the NVDA screen reader, please go to the following links. Software available  https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faq/computers/#faq_5884  How to start the NVDA screen reader on Christchurch City Library computers  https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faqs/what-screen-reader-software-is-available/
 
To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.



Re: I'm so grateful for Nvda

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

I too am very grateful for NVDA. I used to use a different screen reader but I couldn't afford the upgrades anymore so I switched to NVDA full-time in 2011. I haven't looked back.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sociohack AC
Sent: Wednesday, January 9, 2019 6:30 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I'm so grateful for Nvda

 

Same here. I love it's free and so flexible. I can install it on my home PC and my work PC, without any inconvenience to my employer. The world of computers and internet stays wholistic and in place, thanks to NVDA.
--
Regards,
Sociohack


Re: Jetbrains IDEs - improving speech and focus. #addonrelease #addontesting

 

Hi,

Welcome to NvDA list.

Focus entered is most appropriate if an item inside a container (lists, for example) is focused.

Regarding focus item problem: the code fragment below won’t work simply because it’ll match ALL edit fields (think about what that if statement does, as it’ll silence all speech if system focus moves to any edit field). A common solution is to match a specific edit field by inspecting window class names, control ID’s and what not, along with properties of accessibility API object representing the edit field to screen readers (in this case, what Java Access Bridge says about the edit field in question).

Auto-completes and a more general solution: I think the best way to handle this situation is defining an overlay class. This means letting the app module come with an overlay class representing the edit field, with the overlay class dealing with focus announcement, auto-complete suggestions (there is already a behavior mix-in defined for it named EditableTextWithSuggestions) and others. Then in the app module class, you can use chooseNVDAObjectOverlayClasses method to locate the specific edit field represented by the overlay class and inserting that class to top of the classes list (clsList), which means any event NVDA listens to and commands will be sent to that edit field before falling back to default implementation.

Although users list may provide you with some starting points, it isn’t really a forum that talks about intricacies of add-on development; there is a sister forum to this users list (named nvda-addons hosted on Groups.IO) where people like you come together and share their knowledge.

P.S. I’m the one who wrote definitions for EditableTextWithSuggestions mix-in back in 2017 as part of a project to let NVDA deal with UIA search fields.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of pawel@...
Sent: Wednesday, January 9, 2019 4:53 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Jetbrains IDEs - improving speech and focus. #addonrelease #addonrelease #addonrelease #addontesting

 

Dear Everyone,
I recently started using Jetbrains IDEs. I think that they are very good in terms of accessibility, for Jetbrains provides a specific enhanced mode for screen readers.
However there are minor interactions, which are not convinient for constant use.
1. While code completion works fantastically well, the bug can be described as follows:
* Whenever I accept a completion item: a variable / property / function, and the editor gains focus, NVDA is always reading the name property of the editor class provided by the Java Access Bridge,
* For example: "Editor for <name of the currently opened file>, and then continues with the trest of the focused content, or reports inserted item.
2. I tried to create a simple appmodule, which checks if the controle type is of type: ROLE_EDITABLETEXT and then cancel speech, but suddenly inserted items are not being reported, the line content is not visible on the Braille display, and code completion stopped working...

The code is as follows:

class AppModule(appModuleHandler.AppModule):

def event_focusEntered(self, obj, nextHandler):

if obj.role == controlTypes.ROLE_EDITABLETEXT:

speech.cancelSpeech()

nextHandler()

I import Java Access Bridge objects, NVDA objects and behaviors. The edit control is the one without autoselect detection.

I am seaking help in creating the fix for this too verbose announcements. I must say that this IDE is much better when it comes to coding than Visual Studio or Visual Studio Code. Jetbrains has products for different languages, but they use a common shell, just ike Eclipse does, so it would be a fantastic tool for blind developers.

Thank you for your help in advance...
Pawel

 


Re: Need help scanning books

Gene
 

There are flatbed scanners designed specifically for scanning books, called book scanners.  I'm not sure how much they cost but they won't damage the spine of the book.  You can use a flatbed scanner to scan books, whidch isn't a book scanner and it will work well if it’s a reasonable quality one and those are much cheaper.  But you will damage the spines of books, they will become slanted and you may get less money when reselling books.  I haven't looked at scanner brands and models for a long time so I won't say much about that.  Epson was and I think still is, a popular scanner among blind people.  The models blind people bought were in the Perfection series, thus Epson Perfection and then whatever specific scanner you want in that line.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2019 8:44 AM
Subject: [nvda] Need help scanning books

Hello guys!
I had a Lex scanner, which broke recently. It is a specialized scanner for scanning books and documents for blind people. It's basically a camera on a inverted 'L' shaped stand, looks like a table lamp.

Now, since I scan books and documents often for my school work, I need something else. Can't afford the same scanner, it's reasonably costly. Can you guys suggest something? some affordable scanner? Or alternate ways of scanning books?

Would a flat bed scanner work? Has anybody used those? --
Regards,
Sociohack


Need help scanning books

Akshaya Choudhary
 

Hello guys!
I had a Lex scanner, which broke recently. It is a specialized scanner for scanning books and documents for blind people. It's basically a camera on a inverted 'L' shaped stand, looks like a table lamp.

Now, since I scan books and documents often for my school work, I need something else. Can't afford the same scanner, it's reasonably costly. Can you guys suggest something? some affordable scanner? Or alternate ways of scanning books?

Would a flat bed scanner work? Has anybody used those? --
Regards,
Sociohack


Re: I'm so grateful for Nvda

Akshaya Choudhary
 

Same here. I love it's free and so flexible. I can install it on my home PC and my work PC, without any inconvenience to my employer. The world of computers and internet stays wholistic and in place, thanks to NVDA.
--
Regards,
Sociohack


Jetbrains IDEs - improving speech and focus. #addonrelease #addontesting

Pawel Urbanski
 

Dear Everyone,
I recently started using Jetbrains IDEs. I think that they are very good in terms of accessibility, for Jetbrains provides a specific enhanced mode for screen readers.
However there are minor interactions, which are not convinient for constant use.
1. While code completion works fantastically well, the bug can be described as follows:
* Whenever I accept a completion item: a variable / property / function, and the editor gains focus, NVDA is always reading the name property of the editor class provided by the Java Access Bridge,
* For example: "Editor for <name of the currently opened file>, and then continues with the trest of the focused content, or reports inserted item.
2. I tried to create a simple appmodule, which checks if the controle type is of type: ROLE_EDITABLETEXT and then cancel speech, but suddenly inserted items are not being reported, the line content is not visible on the Braille display, and code completion stopped working...

The code is as follows:
class AppModule(appModuleHandler.AppModule):
def event_focusEntered(self, obj, nextHandler):
if obj.role == controlTypes.ROLE_EDITABLETEXT:
speech.cancelSpeech()
nextHandler()

I import Java Access Bridge objects, NVDA objects and behaviors. The edit control is the one without autoselect detection.

I am seaking help in creating the fix for this too verbose announcements. I must say that this IDE is much better when it comes to coding than Visual Studio or Visual Studio Code. Jetbrains has products for different languages, but they use a common shell, just ike Eclipse does, so it would be a fantastic tool for blind developers.

Thank you for your help in advance...
Pawel
 


Re: new NVDA user with a question

Gene
 

Where did the NVDA tutorial come from?  I think that is an old version.
 
Is it the one by Joseph Lee?
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2019 10:11 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] new NVDA user with a question

Hi


the best bet is to use the updated versions of those files.


Just in case you did not know if you installed a copy of nvda and nvda is not running use the alkt key + ctrl key + the letter N to start your copy of nvda.

to get into the preferences of nvda where you can make changes use the nvda key + letter N. Under the help section will be where you will find the user manual etc. Under the settings section is where you will make most of your changes.

to quit your copy of nvda use the nvda key + letter Q


Where i refer to the modifier key this is either the insert key, the extended insert key or the caps lock key. You might of chosen one of these like the insert key then you would use the letter Q to quit your copy of nvda.



I would have to go back and see what the other question was to answer it.


Ask the questions and some one on the list will point you in the right direction.


Gene nz


On 9/01/2019 3:24 PM, Troy Burnham wrote:
Hi all,


I installed what I assume is the latest version of NVDA, ending in a 4, yesterday and since I've been meaning to make the jump to NVDA for quite a while I already had some files saved to help me get started but the help files appear to be for version 2017.2. The help files I have are an NVDA tutorial, a basic training for NVDA file, a commands quick reference guide, and a user guide but since the executable that's in the same folder with these files is for NVDA 2017.2 and I have the version ending in 4 installed I just wanted to know if the help files I have are still compatible.


Thanks.


Troy






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Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net
 
Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which location (or locations) are nearest to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa).
To find out which software is installed on the APNK network please visit the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/software To find out how to use NVDA on APNK computers please visit the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/nvda
 

To find out which software is available on the Christchurch City Library network, and how to start the NVDA screen reader, please go to the following links. Software available  https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faq/computers/#faq_5884  How to start the NVDA screen reader on Christchurch City Library computers  https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faqs/what-screen-reader-software-is-available/
 
To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.


Re: new NVDA user with a question

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

However having said that many of the concepts have remained the same, which is why we do not need to relearn it all the time.
As has been said though you have the latest manual etc in the installed version, If we are talking totorials Joseph has updated his spoken word versions fairly recently and I'm sure he will come along and point you at them.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "hurrikennyandopo ..." <hurrikennyandopo@hotmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2019 4:11 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] new NVDA user with a question


Hi


the best bet is to use the updated versions of those files.


Just in case you did not know if you installed a copy of nvda and nvda is not running use the alkt key + ctrl key + the letter N to start your copy of nvda.

to get into the preferences of nvda where you can make changes use the nvda key + letter N. Under the help section will be where you will find the user manual etc. Under the settings section is where you will make most of your changes.

to quit your copy of nvda use the nvda key + letter Q


Where i refer to the modifier key this is either the insert key, the extended insert key or the caps lock key. You might of chosen one of these like the insert key then you would use the letter Q to quit your copy of nvda.



I would have to go back and see what the other question was to answer it.


Ask the questions and some one on the list will point you in the right direction.


Gene nz


On 9/01/2019 3:24 PM, Troy Burnham wrote:
Hi all,


I installed what I assume is the latest version of NVDA, ending in a 4, yesterday and since I've been meaning to make the jump to NVDA for quite a while I already had some files saved to help me get started but the help files appear to be for version 2017.2. The help files I have are an NVDA tutorial, a basic training for NVDA file, a commands quick reference guide, and a user guide but since the executable that's in the same folder with these files is for NVDA 2017.2 and I have the version ending in 4 installed I just wanted to know if the help files I have are still compatible.


Thanks.


Troy






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Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net

Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which location (or locations) are nearest to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find out which software is installed on the APNK network please visit the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/software To find out how to use NVDA on APNK computers please visit the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/nvda

To find out which software is available on the Christchurch City Library network, and how to start the NVDA screen reader, please go to the following links. Software available https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faq/computers/#faq_5884 How to start the NVDA screen reader on Christchurch City Library computers https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faqs/what-screen-reader-software-is-available/

To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.




Re: Changing to G-Chrome?

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

Yes of course, but even then one can actually edit it so it will work if displayed as html. You just have to remove the clutter that the hyperlink coding and the ascii coding show up as. I suspect though that most using a client need to set up as.
reply to messages in the format they were sent, but send new messages in text. In the majority of cases the means forwarded messages have the links intact, but new ones you write may not unless you are careful pasting in a link. I always give them a line of their own.
Also of course in the main, if a link does not work surely the person the other end is capable of highlighting the link copying it to the pad and then pasting it into the address bar of their browser.
I think the emails that annoy me the most are those which have no obvious links if read, ie they may say we at blogs and co have made it ultra simple for you to use our chicken plucking machine, where the link is actually the words made it simple or some other silly selection.

Bah humbug I say.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Vogel" <britechguy@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2019 8:34 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Changing to G-Chrome?


I say the following without any intent of being snarky: There is operator error going on here, somewhere.

I use Gmail's web interface (full, not basic HTML, but that shouldn't matter) along with Firefox, Chrome, and, at times, Edge and one can copy and paste a hyperlink in "click through text" format without any difficulty.

It's a matter of figuring out where, precisely, something's gone amiss. This sort of thing can and does happen if either the sender or the recipient uses any method to force their messages to plain text.

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*A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.*

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Re: Issue With Add ON Updater And Clock Add On

_abdel_ <abdelkrim.bensaid@...>
 

Hello,

I corrected the bug in the manifest file as suggested by Joseph.

If the problem persists, proceed as follows:

1. Go to the Add-on manager and uninstall the Clock add-on.

2. Check that the Clock element is no longer in the list of installed add-ons after uninstalling.

3. Once you have made sure that it has been uninstalled, reinstall it from the following address:

https://github.com/hkatic/clock/releases/download/19.01.1/clock-19.01.1.nvda-addon
4. This done, recheck with addonUpdater and tell us if the problem still persists.

Thanks for keeping us informed about this issue.

Cheers,
Abdel.


Le 09/01/2019 à 00:52, Ron Canazzi a écrit :
There is only one listing.


On 1/8/2019 10:29 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
When you open Add-ons Manager, how many entries do you see for Clock add-on? If you see two entries, chances are that the add-on installation may not have gone smoothly as we hoped. To resolve this kind of situation:
1. Open Start, type "explore NVDA user configuration directory" (without quotes) and press Enter.
2. Go to "addons" folder and open it.
3. Delete folders starting with the name "clock".
4. If File Explorer (Windows Explorer in Windows 7) says it can't delete the folder(s) because someone is using it, select Cancel, log out, log back in and repeat from step 1.
5. If things go well, restart NVDA, then reinstall Clock add-on.

Part of the problem has to do with frequent bug fix releases from the add-on author in a span of two days. I'll write a more general directive to add-ons community regarding stable releases.
Cheers,
Joseph


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ron Canazzi
Sent: Tuesday, January 8, 2019 7:20 AM
To: NVDA Official Group <nvda@groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] Issue With Add ON Updater And Clock Add On

Hi Group,


For the past several days, every time I restart my system, when NVDA loads, I get a message from add on updater concerning the clock add on.
It says there is a new update.  The update is always the same from 19.02 to 19.1.  I dutifully grant the add on updater the permission to update and everything seems to go OK.  The update is downloaded and installed and I am asked to restart NVDA.  I do this, but the next time I restart my computer, the same thing happens.


Is this an issue with the clock add on or is there a bug with the add on updater?


Re: new NVDA user with a question

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi


the best bet is to use the updated versions of those files.


Just in case you did not know if you installed a copy of nvda and nvda is not running use the alkt key + ctrl key + the letter N to start your copy of nvda.

to get into the preferences of nvda where you can make changes use the nvda key + letter N. Under the help section will be where you will find the user manual etc. Under the settings section is where you will make most of your changes.

to quit your copy of nvda use the nvda key + letter Q


Where i refer to the modifier key this is either the insert key, the extended insert key or the caps lock key. You might of chosen one of these like the insert key then you would use the letter Q to quit your copy of nvda.



I would have to go back and see what the other question was to answer it.


Ask the questions and some one on the list will point you in the right direction.


Gene nz


On 9/01/2019 3:24 PM, Troy Burnham wrote:
Hi all,


I installed what I assume is the latest version of NVDA, ending in a 4, yesterday and since I've been meaning to make the jump to NVDA for quite a while I already had some files saved to help me get started but the help files appear to be for version 2017.2. The help files I have are an NVDA tutorial, a basic training for NVDA file, a commands quick reference guide, and a user guide but since the executable that's in the same folder with these files is for NVDA 2017.2 and I have the version ending in 4 installed I just wanted to know if the help files I have are still compatible.


Thanks.


Troy






--
Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net
 
Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which location (or locations) are nearest to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa).
To find out which software is installed on the APNK network please visit the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/software To find out how to use NVDA on APNK computers please visit the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/nvda
 

To find out which software is available on the Christchurch City Library network, and how to start the NVDA screen reader, please go to the following links. Software available  https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faq/computers/#faq_5884  How to start the NVDA screen reader on Christchurch City Library computers  https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faqs/what-screen-reader-software-is-available/
 
To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.


Re: how to record audio from the computer with no mic plugged in sure could use some help.

特種兵
 


  I have had this problem with chrome before, I guess because I accidentally allowed the intrusion of advertising messages when I translated youtube to mp3,
It’s also possible to have the ad come in with chrome-line addon.
  I later removed chrome and all of its add-ons, didn’t find anything when scaning my system, and reinstalled chrome and chrome-line addon.
  Do not allow messages or plugins to enter your computer when browse the website or any service, unless you want to install it necessary and reliable.

thank you for much
Logo Kuo from Taiwan
MAX 於 2019/01/07 10:29 寫道:

OK.  I thought it was a strange coincidence that the very same ad was being added to someone’s email message as had popped up on my computer.  The adds only appear when I am running chrome which is why I have stopped using it.  I don’t get them under any other conditions.  I have checked several times and the popups option is turned off but they keep popping.  I am actually happier with fire fox than I was with chrome so it’s no longer an issue. I am a careful browser.  I never go to a site unless two conditions are met.  1) Someone I know recommends it. And 2)  The recommending message actually came from that person.  I regularly get site recommendations from friends and relatives who have passed away.  Needless to say they get permanently deleted.

 

 

73 (Regards).

 

Max K 4 O D S.

 

I've Never Lost the Wonder.

 

Antique Electronics Site: http://www.angelfire.com/electronic/funwithtubes/

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2019 12:03 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] how to record audio from the computer with no mic plugged in sure could use some help.

 

I saw the ad.  The ads are placed at the end of messages from Sue by her e-mail provider.  But you said you see ads in Chrome, the browser.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: MAX

Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2019 10:38 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] how to record audio from the computer with no mic plugged in sure could use some help.

 

So are you saying that these ads at the end of Sue’s messages are not appearing to you?  It makes a big difference to me whether they are being attached by Sue’s email provider or they are being attached by my computer as they arrive in my inbox.  Please be clear.  I’d like to hear from Sue on this.  Do you see ads at the end of your messages when they return to you through the list.

 

 

73 (Regards).

 

Max K 4 O D S.

 

I've Never Lost the Wonder.

 

Antique Electronics Site: http://www.angelfire.com/electronic/funwithtubes/

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2019 7:29 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] how to record audio from the computer with no mic plugged in sure could use some help.

 

It sounds suspiciously to me as though you have AdWare on your machine which is causing popups to appear when they shouldn't be.  do popups keep coming up as you browse?  do they come up when you are not browsing as well, when the browser is closed? 

 

It appears the advertising in the message you are discussing comes from Juno.com.  I didn't know they were still around but I just looked up the site and it is.  These appear to be commercials Juno is placing in the e-mail from third party advertisers. 

 

I doubt that you being signed into Chrome would cause such popups.  I never signed into Chrome so I doubt it but I don't know it. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: MAX

Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2019 7:12 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] how to record audio from the computer with no mic plugged in sure could use some help.

 

Did anyone else see that tag on Sue's message?  It began quote, One Cup of This (Before Bed), end quote.  That's the same as one of the popups I was getting with google chrome.


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-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sue J. Ward
Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2019 3:29 PM
To: nvda groups <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] how to record audio from the computer with no mic plugged in sure could use some help.

Hello. Everyone. Thanks for your help and the Dropbox download. Do you know what is the official website for the virtual recorder program? Well I did finally figured it out based on playing with audacity for a half hour. I do have everything set correctly and if I want to hear what I have recorded through the computer I have to unplug everything from the sound card since my desktop PC does have an internal speaker. I did turn it down so it is not too loud so I can hear what I am recording and don't have to bother other people after I am done I do play it back it sounds great. I am going to get a second computer and see how that goes since on that one am going to put games on that machine and maybe some audio editing software. I think whatever works for the certain person depending what they want to do there are a lot of options out there. So just thought I would give an update.
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Re: new NVDA user with a question

Jackie
 

Troy, to read the most current user guide, please activate the NVDA
menu (NVDA modifier + n) then h for help. You'll find a variety of
current resources there.

On 1/8/19, Troy Burnham <troyburnham34@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all,


I installed what I assume is the latest version of NVDA, ending in a 4,
yesterday and since I've been meaning to make the jump to NVDA for quite
a while I already had some files saved to help me get started but the
help files appear to be for version 2017.2. The help files I have are an
NVDA tutorial, a basic training for NVDA file, a commands quick
reference guide, and a user guide but since the executable that's in the
same folder with these files is for NVDA 2017.2 and I have the version
ending in 4 installed I just wanted to know if the help files I have are
still compatible.


Thanks.


Troy






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new NVDA user with a question

Troy Burnham
 

Hi all,


I installed what I assume is the latest version of NVDA, ending in a 4, yesterday and since I've been meaning to make the jump to NVDA for quite a while I already had some files saved to help me get started but the help files appear to be for version 2017.2. The help files I have are an NVDA tutorial, a basic training for NVDA file, a commands quick reference guide, and a user guide but since the executable that's in the same folder with these files is for NVDA 2017.2 and I have the version ending in 4 installed I just wanted to know if the help files I have are still compatible.


Thanks.


Troy


Re: Issue With Add ON Updater And Clock Add On

Ron Canazzi
 

There is only one listing.

On 1/8/2019 10:29 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
When you open Add-ons Manager, how many entries do you see for Clock add-on? If you see two entries, chances are that the add-on installation may not have gone smoothly as we hoped. To resolve this kind of situation:
1. Open Start, type "explore NVDA user configuration directory" (without quotes) and press Enter.
2. Go to "addons" folder and open it.
3. Delete folders starting with the name "clock".
4. If File Explorer (Windows Explorer in Windows 7) says it can't delete the folder(s) because someone is using it, select Cancel, log out, log back in and repeat from step 1.
5. If things go well, restart NVDA, then reinstall Clock add-on.

Part of the problem has to do with frequent bug fix releases from the add-on author in a span of two days. I'll write a more general directive to add-ons community regarding stable releases.
Cheers,
Joseph


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ron Canazzi
Sent: Tuesday, January 8, 2019 7:20 AM
To: NVDA Official Group <nvda@groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] Issue With Add ON Updater And Clock Add On

Hi Group,


For the past several days, every time I restart my system, when NVDA loads, I get a message from add on updater concerning the clock add on.
It says there is a new update. The update is always the same from 19.02 to 19.1. I dutifully grant the add on updater the permission to update and everything seems to go OK. The update is downloaded and installed and I am asked to restart NVDA. I do this, but the next time I restart my computer, the same thing happens.


Is this an issue with the clock add on or is there a bug with the add on updater?

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molly the blind tech lover
 

Hey guys, Molly here again.

I just want to say how grateful I am for Nvda. It has really changed my life and I love Nvda so much. Nvda  is really helping me with school. I am just really happy and I really appreciate all the Nvda developers for what they do.  And I love all the Nvda add ons. They are awesome  😊


Re: Changing to G-Chrome?

Gene
 

My suspicion, and its gotten stronger as I consider the question, is that you are copying a web page to the clipboard and then pasting it into an e-mail message.  If that is what you are doing, your browser has nothing to do with the problem.  It's the way NVDA copies web page text to the clipboard.
 
Do the following:
Turn off browse mode when you are on the page you want to copy.
Use control a to select the page. 
Copy it to the clipboard with control c.  Turn browse mode on again and paste it where you want it.  Then edit it as desired.  You can't copy embedded links with Browse Mode on.  This is a screen-reader and not a browser behavior.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2019 2:21 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Changing to G-Chrome?

I doubt that the problem is a well established browser with a long time of use by the public.  How are you sending web pages?  That is the first question? 
 
Using Chrome will be almost identical in terms of browsing.  Chrome, firefox, and Internet Explorer all use what used to be called MSAA, I'm not sure what it is called now, I think UIA, to display pages and to provide quick navigation commands.  The browser is working with the screen-reader to provide this form of accessibility. 
 
If you want to work with settings, and book marks, that will take a little learning but it won't be a major transition.  Also, why are you still using Firefox version 52?  You say it doesn't do something but it is about ten versions old.  Why not try the newest Firefox?  Try the portable version.  You can then have the old, insecure because it hasn't gotten updates for maybe a year version installed and the newest version to try as a portable version.
Whatever browser you use, I'm very suspicious that you are not sending pages in the proper way to have embedded links appear.
 

But also, whatever browser you use, it is a bad idea to use old versions except in specific cases such as if you want to use Webvisum with a specific site.  You would then use the current version for your other browsing.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2019 1:46 PM
Subject: [nvda] Changing to G-Chrome?

Hi NVDA Group,

I am in search of a new browser to replace use of FireFox 52. It does
not reproduce hyperlinks, and more people are telling me that only the
URL for a website appears in their email from me, not hyperlinked. As
an author, I cannot really have this occur.
Some years ago G-chrome seemed not to work that well with Jaws or NVDA
and either FireFox or Internet Exp were recommended for compatibility.
I have a Windows 7 computer, and wonder if I switch to G-Chrome, do I
get the hyperlinks insertion as automatic, and does it take time to
learn how to re-use email or the internet?
My GMail setting is for HTML.
If there is another browser option, please suggest. Thanks.
Cheers,
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Re: Changing to G-Chrome?

 

I say the following without any intent of being snarky:  There is operator error going on here, somewhere.

I use Gmail's web interface (full, not basic HTML, but that shouldn't matter) along with Firefox, Chrome, and, at times, Edge and one can copy and paste a hyperlink in "click through text" format without any difficulty.

It's a matter of figuring out where, precisely, something's gone amiss.  This sort of thing can and does happen if either the sender or the recipient uses any method to force their messages to plain text.

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Re: Changing to G-Chrome?

Gene
 

I doubt that the problem is a well established browser with a long time of use by the public.  How are you sending web pages?  That is the first question? 
 
Using Chrome will be almost identical in terms of browsing.  Chrome, firefox, and Internet Explorer all use what used to be called MSAA, I'm not sure what it is called now, I think UIA, to display pages and to provide quick navigation commands.  The browser is working with the screen-reader to provide this form of accessibility. 
 
If you want to work with settings, and book marks, that will take a little learning but it won't be a major transition.  Also, why are you still using Firefox version 52?  You say it doesn't do something but it is about ten versions old.  Why not try the newest Firefox?  Try the portable version.  You can then have the old, insecure because it hasn't gotten updates for maybe a year version installed and the newest version to try as a portable version.
Whatever browser you use, I'm very suspicious that you are not sending pages in the proper way to have embedded links appear.
 

But also, whatever browser you use, it is a bad idea to use old versions except in specific cases such as if you want to use Webvisum with a specific site.  You would then use the current version for your other browsing.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2019 1:46 PM
Subject: [nvda] Changing to G-Chrome?

Hi NVDA Group,

I am in search of a new browser to replace use of FireFox 52. It does
not reproduce hyperlinks, and more people are telling me that only the
URL for a website appears in their email from me, not hyperlinked. As
an author, I cannot really have this occur.
Some years ago G-chrome seemed not to work that well with Jaws or NVDA
and either FireFox or Internet Exp were recommended for compatibility.
I have a Windows 7 computer, and wonder if I switch to G-Chrome, do I
get the hyperlinks insertion as automatic, and does it take time to
learn how to re-use email or the internet?
My GMail setting is for HTML.
If there is another browser option, please suggest. Thanks.
Cheers,
--
David Russell
david.sonofhashem@...