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Re: FireFox Update Download Problems Cont

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I do not use webmail but those who do tell me a lot of these issues have not been seen in the 64 bit version of Firefox latest builds.


Also if you want a more secure browser then get waterfox. It seems to be being updated but is based on the old rendering engine of mozilla.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2019 1:44 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] FireFox Update Download Problems Cont


The choice isn't to use the old version or a new version exclusively. You can use the version you are using now for e-mail and you can use the current version, run as a portable version for general browsing. I haven't had problems with the current version of Firefox as far as accessibility is concerned. I assume you know that older versions of browsers are more vulnerable to security exploits that allow malicious sites to download malware and do other things to compromise your machine and steal personal information.

That's why I am advising that you use a portable current version for general browsing and the 52.x version for e-mail.

You don't need to join another group to do this. Many people on the list use portable Firefox and can give you information.

I'm not saying you shouldn't join the group you are discussing, there's nothing wrong with having more resources if you want them, I'm saying for what I am discussing, you can get all the information you need here.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: David Russell
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2019 5:47 PM
To: nvda
Subject: [nvda] FireFox Update Download Problems Cont


Hi All,

I did a system restore and am back on FF52. Emails could not be read
that I compose, and my signature line could not be read either. I had
to forward tab once to read email in the inbox. So, whatever advances
have been made, benefit me little. I don't know a lot about
configuring computers to work in the manner to which I am accustom.

I understand there is a support group from Texas that deals with
accessibility issues on a more personal level. Does anyone have
contact info for them or such a group or service?

I cannot afford to update if it limits my known capabilities. Thanks!

--
David Russell
david.sonofhashem@gmail.com


Re: Changing to G-chrome Continued?

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Please though if you are a 64 bit person force the 64 bit version of Firefox, its far better and more reliable in my opinion.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "David Russell" <david.sonofhashem@gmail.com>
To: "nvda" <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2019 10:34 PM
Subject: [nvda] Changing to G-chrome Continued?


Hello Brian, Gene and others,

First, apologies on my confusing terms e.g., embed versus
linkification or written links. I meant "written links."
I thought typed links in composing became links in composing. That is
how I understood the term, embed.
My experience duplicates Brian's with links remaining plain text in
the composing part, but if http or https:// is the prefix, then 9
times out of 10, I can count on a link in the processed email.

On my blog, blogspot.com, written links do not appear as links but
plain or html text. That's another story for another time.

As to the FireFox issues preventing me from updating, yes, it dealt
with the speed of Quantum not being able to be handled by screen
readers. This was a little over one year ago I think.

I will go ahead and update as I get the choice each time I go browsing.
- Gene, thanks for the command for turning the browser on and off. You
folks were and are very helpful!
Kind Regards,
--
David Russell
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Re: Changing to G-Chrome? Continued

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Yes I get annoyed by companies and organisations who seen me hidden links where the text merely says here as the link. I often need to make a script to be read out of the text in these emails which means I need to go to every link and cut and paste the address bar as well as the actual text into my document to be read. If you look at these emails in plain text often the link is not as the web site shows it, but is a huge tracking link hidden behind the text as the sender is trying to get metrics from the user as to what is the most popular areas of the web sit.

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From: "Brian Vogel" <britechguy@gmail.com>
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Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2019 9:20 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Changing to G-Chrome? Continued


On Wed, Jan 9, 2019 at 02:01 PM, David Russell wrote:


When pasting, the URL is read without the word link. When reading the
copy sent to myself, the link is there, and it works!
This is typical behavior. If you do not copy the link with a "Copy Link Location" command, or similar, or have a link that is presented as click-through text selected, then all you're getting is the link text, not the hyperlink. If you select only the part of a link that comes after the https:// or http:// it will still be considered text, not a link.

The e-mail interface "linkifies" plain text that it recognizes as being presented in link format. It's easy enough to try. Type a list of URLs by hand. In the compose window they will not be presented to you, the composer, as links. Once the message is sent, and you're viewing it in the sent folder, they will (as they will for the receiver).

Copy http://www.washingtonpost.com in its entirety, from the H in http to the m in com, then paste it when composing. You'll have a link. Then afterward type out what comes after the http:// by hand. In the compose window you'll have plain text for the second. But once sent both will show up as links once "linkification" has been done on the second one by Gmail or an e-mail client.

If you copy and paste in a full hyperlink it will read as "link". There's a difference between text that can be linkified and an actual link itself. It's worked this way for as long as I can remember, and there was a time where "linkification" did not occur. It was a new feature many moons ago.

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Re: Changing from FireFox to G-Chrome Continued

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They are and were mostly due to the new interface. However I still find them in 32 bit versions of Firefox, ie weird no sign of browse mode detection and much more, but when I went to the full 64 bit versions then things are a lot better. My main suspicion is a timing issue on the slower 32 built code that makes nvda not see things it should b. Its hard to pin down as its so hit and miss, but certainly the 64 bit one does not seem to have the problem.
People with more brain cells than I will probably explain it!

However I do not use facebook and to my mind many many people complain about weird page design causing strange things to happen.
If in the main hyperlinks work, often you can put the problems down to the web site itself. its very easy to make links look like links, but not work on a web site so maybe its intentional.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Vogel" <britechguy@gmail.com>
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Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2019 6:49 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Changing from FireFox to G-Chrome Continued


On Wed, Jan 9, 2019 at 01:18 PM, David Russell wrote:


I am using FF-52 because of the formerly felt concerns with more
recent editions such as 57, 60 and perhaps 63. If those are now
alleviated, I will update.
And what are those? I ask because I know there were some, but it's been so long I've forgotten. I also have had multiple clients on the Quantum versions of Firefox and we've not had any difficulties recently, that's for sure.

Any time I paste in text that can be recognized as a link in Gmail it "linkifies" it. Sometimes things without www. on the front are, or are not, linkified but anything that has it and that has the correct remaining format always is.

I just did this with the text britechguy.com (my own website) and www.smashwords.com, ( http://www.smashwords.com, ) both pasted in as plain text, and both were linkified when I received the message. They don't instantly show that during compose, it's part of the processing once you hit Send.
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Re: speaking passwords instead of star

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You may find if it says nothing, than speak passwords won't operate, or to be more accurate, the echo back might not actually be what you put in at your end.
I know of no real way to find this out, as after all if the password repeated back instead of star or circle or whatever, then anyone could see it.
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From: "Isaac" <bigikemusic@gmail.com>
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Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2019 4:27 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] speaking passwords instead of star


Well, I have a program that is very slugish about entering passwords so I want them spoken aloud to know there inputted as this particular program doesn't say star or anything.
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Sent: Wednesday, January 9, 2019 10:23 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] speaking passwords instead of star


On Wed, Jan 9, 2019 at 11:20 AM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:

especially in a public place like a library.



I doubt that many do this, but any that do have no one to blame but themselves when the inevitable account compromises come.

Passwords (or pass phrases) belong in two areas: One's own head and/or a password manager program that encrypts the file containing the actual passwords.

All the reasons that have ever been given for reading them aloud when typed ring entirely hollow to me.

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Re: speaking passwords instead of star

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Well, I guess it does depend on what data is in the account. I can see that some accounts, say one I use on the BBC has no personal data in it, it is merely forced on us so the BBC can see what is being watched, and probably in the future check if we have paid the licence.
The danger I think is that its not selective in that if you forget an leave it on when doing banking then its going to be a major issue if you are outside of your home.

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Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2019 4:23 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] speaking passwords instead of star


On Wed, Jan 9, 2019 at 11:20 AM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:




especially in a public place like a library.





I doubt that many do this, but any that do have no one to blame but themselves when the inevitable account compromises come.

Passwords (or pass phrases) belong in two areas: One's own head and/or a password manager program that encrypts the file containing the actual passwords.

All the reasons that have ever been given for reading them aloud when typed ring entirely hollow to me.

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Re: EyePal

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If anyone has a reasonable smart phone, I have to say I was quite impressed with how well some of them can to OCR on documents and books held above them by hand. There is also a little holder made of plastic for many phones with the silly name of the Giraffe, which effectively turns it into a rostrum camera much like the original product the person here had.
Now of course getting the result of the ocr over to the computer is a whole other story, but I'd imagine with Dropbox on the phone and the pc, one could do it fairly easily assuming that this is accessible on both systems. Certainly dropbox on the PC is OK with nvda, he said gently moving the discussion back on topic.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Munn " <michaelrbms@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2019 2:19 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] EyePal


Ok Sounds good. I do need one scaner that I can use instead of KNFB Reader.
Email me separetly so I can provide you details.
Thanks
Best Regards
Michael Munn

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www.hadley.edu




On Wed, Jan 9, 2019 at 6:51 PM Janet Brandly <jbrandly@shaw.ca> wrote:

Hello Michael and others,

The EyePal was/is manufactured by ABiSEE and is sold by FS and other
dealers.
When I bought mine there were 2 types, a stand-alone version called the
Solo and another type consisting of the camera and separate software to be
installed onto a PC. I have the second type. I know the software was
updated at least to support Windows 7 and that the camera could also be
upgraded. I would be willing to give you the hardware (camera, supporting
arm, USB cables etc.) as well as any documentation I have. You would have
to contact their support department to update the software and info on
modernizing the camera.

*From:* Michael Munn
*Sent:* Wednesday, January 9, 2019 3:25 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: EyePal, was : [nvda] Need help scanning books

Can you email me more detail about this piece of Technology?
II'm interested
I can't afford getting it right now.
Are you Selling them?




Re: Need help scanning books

Brian K. Lingard
 

Dear Molly & List:

 

Kurzweil KK-1000 is still a current product. Version 14 is curr3ent.

 

Kurzweil flags doubtful characters with an at-sign by default. It is wise to turn this off or all you hear is every character on your page with an at-sign flag.

 

Have used both Open Book v 9 and Kurzweil v 114. They are roughly comparable as to accuracy & features.

 

Use the scanner program you know best. You will be more accustomed to its features.

Brian K. Lingard

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of molly the blind tech lover
Sent: January 9, 2019 10:43 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Need help  scanning books

 

Hi.

I used to use something called kurzweil 1000. I scanned documents and then the computer would read them to me. I had a giant scanner. I guess it was the kurzweil 1000.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Wednesday, January 9, 2019 10:29 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Need help scanning books

 

There are flatbed scanners designed specifically for scanning books, called book scanners.  I'm not sure how much they cost but they won't damage the spine of the book.  You can use a flatbed scanner to scan books, whidch isn't a book scanner and it will work well if it’s a reasonable quality one and those are much cheaper.  But you will damage the spines of books, they will become slanted and you may get less money when reselling books.  I haven't looked at scanner brands and models for a long time so I won't say much about that.  Epson was and I think still is, a popular scanner among blind people.  The models blind people bought were in the Perfection series, thus Epson Perfection and then whatever specific scanner you want in that line.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2019 8:44 AM

Subject: [nvda] Need help scanning books

 

Hello guys!
I had a Lex scanner, which broke recently. It is a specialized scanner for scanning books and documents for blind people. It's basically a camera on a inverted 'L' shaped stand, looks like a table lamp.

Now, since I scan books and documents often for my school work, I need something else. Can't afford the same scanner, it's reasonably costly. Can you guys suggest something? some affordable scanner? Or alternate ways of scanning books?

Would a flat bed scanner work? Has anybody used those? --
Regards,
Sociohack


a freezing issue

 

Hi.

This happened today after fiddling with a load of 50gb folders which I had to delete and copy back to my drives, and so it was a lot of heavy processing on my new amd laptop.

I was listening to a winamp stream to.

nvda froze up after I had gone away for a while, explorer crashed then I had to reboot.

Its probable that I may never have the same issue, I usually don't handle 2 drives and a lot of data at once like this usually and play audio but anyway here is the log.

WARNING - watchdog._watcher (20:04:42.038):
Core frozen in stack:
  File "nvda.pyw", line 217, in <module>
  File "core.pyo", line 515, in main
  File "wx\core.pyo", line 2134, in MainLoop
  File "gui\__init__.pyo", line 963, in Notify
  File "core.pyo", line 485, in run
  File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 897, in pumpAll
  File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 620, in processGenericWinEvent
  File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 524, in winEventToNVDAEvent
  File "_UIAHandler.pyo", line 378, in isUIAWindow
  File "_UIAHandler.pyo", line 366, in _isUIAWindowHelper

WARNING - watchdog._watcher (20:04:58.184):
Core frozen in stack:
  File "nvda.pyw", line 217, in <module>
  File "core.pyo", line 515, in main
  File "wx\core.pyo", line 2134, in MainLoop
  File "gui\__init__.pyo", line 963, in Notify
  File "core.pyo", line 485, in run
  File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 897, in pumpAll
  File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 620, in processGenericWinEvent
  File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 532, in winEventToNVDAEvent
  File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyo", line 40, in getNVDAObjectFromEvent
  File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 342, in accessibleObjectFromEvent
  File "oleacc.pyo", line 265, in AccessibleObjectFromEvent


Re: NVDA say all command not working.

Eric Hofman
 

Hi Vlad

Thanks for the advice it is appreciated.

I did not ask which voice he is using but do recall hearing it in the background during the phone call and I don’t think it was a vocalizer voice, I think it was espeak NG synthesizer but will confirm when I am able to next contact him.

 

Kind regards

Eric Hofman

  

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Vlad Dragomir
Sent: Thursday, 10 January 2019 2:17 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA say all command not working.

 

Hello Eric,

 

If  your client is using the Vocalize voices add-on sold by Code Factory, please let them know that the problem comes from that add-on. It might be a good idea if he/she could write them and ask them to solve this problem. It’s been around for the last two months or so.

 

Hope this helped a bit. Most sincerely,

 

Vlad.


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Re: NVDA say all command not working.

Vlad Dragomir
 

Hello Eric,

 

If  your client is using the Vocalize voices add-on sold by Code Factory, please let them know that the problem comes from that add-on. It might be a good idea if he/she could write them and ask them to solve this problem. It’s been around for the last two months or so.

 

Hope this helped a bit. Most sincerely,

 

Vlad.


Re: Win10 system restore

 

Windows has never kept "an infinite list" of restore points, but tends to keep them for the last 4 or 5 major actions.

When you get to the Restore your computer to the state it was in before the selected event dialog, do you have the checkbox for Show more restore points checked?  If not, you'll see only one, the most recent one.
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Re: Need help scanning books

molly the blind tech lover
 

Hi.

I used to use something called kurzweil 1000. I scanned documents and then the computer would read them to me. I had a giant scanner. I guess it was the kurzweil 1000.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Wednesday, January 9, 2019 10:29 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Need help scanning books

 

There are flatbed scanners designed specifically for scanning books, called book scanners.  I'm not sure how much they cost but they won't damage the spine of the book.  You can use a flatbed scanner to scan books, whidch isn't a book scanner and it will work well if it’s a reasonable quality one and those are much cheaper.  But you will damage the spines of books, they will become slanted and you may get less money when reselling books.  I haven't looked at scanner brands and models for a long time so I won't say much about that.  Epson was and I think still is, a popular scanner among blind people.  The models blind people bought were in the Perfection series, thus Epson Perfection and then whatever specific scanner you want in that line.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2019 8:44 AM

Subject: [nvda] Need help scanning books

 

Hello guys!
I had a Lex scanner, which broke recently. It is a specialized scanner for scanning books and documents for blind people. It's basically a camera on a inverted 'L' shaped stand, looks like a table lamp.

Now, since I scan books and documents often for my school work, I need something else. Can't afford the same scanner, it's reasonably costly. Can you guys suggest something? some affordable scanner? Or alternate ways of scanning books?

Would a flat bed scanner work? Has anybody used those? --
Regards,
Sociohack


Win10 system restore

Pascal Lambert <coccinelle86@...>
 

Hi,

Anyone knows why restore points disappear?  Each time I setup one, it is gone after few weeks.  I even increased the allocated memory amount and my terabyte drive is 85% empty.  I would appreciate any feedback/suggestion.

Many thanks

Blessings

Pascal

 


Re: NVDA say all command not working.

Gene
 

But first, check the keyboard layout.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2019 8:14 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA say all command not working.

Hi Gene

Thank you for your time and suggestion, I will contact the client and try this suggestion. I am familiar with the process of restarting with addons disabled.

 

Many thanks

Eric Hofman

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, 10 January 2019 12:03 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA say all command not working.

 

Try running it with all add-ons disabled.  Do you know how to restart NVdA with all add-ons disabled?  that should be tried before reverting to factory defaults. I'll discuss that in another message if necessary.

 

Gene

----- Original Message ----- 

 

From: Eric Hofman

Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2019 5:49 PM

Subject: [nvda] NVDA say all command not working.

 

Hi All

I have a client who is using the latest version of NVDA on a Windows 10 Laptop with Office 2016.

The client is reasonably proficient with using NVDA and reports that when attempting to use the “SAY ALL” ( INSERT+DOWN ARROW ) in word, Outlook, notepad various other programs, that the command fails to read to the end of the Page or Document from the currently focused point. The client states it will usually read to the end of the line, sentence, or paragraph and that repeating the command will prompt NVDA to continue reading but again not to the end as expected.

 

This issue is reported to me as having been occurring for approximately 4 to 6 weeks, So has survived several system reboots. I have ensured via phone that the client is using the latest version and currently there are no updates available for the client.

 

I have been unable to reproduce this issue on a test system or my work system with the latest version or the previous versions of NVDA. Reset to factory defaults would be the next obvious step but I would like to know if this is a known issue or if there is some way of resolving this without a reset to defaults.

 

Any advice or assistance is greatly appreciated.

 

Regards

Eric Hofman

 

 

 

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Tutorials for Navigating iTunes with NVDA

Greg Rhodes
 

Does anyone know of any tutorials for learning to navigate iTunes with NVDA? Thanks.

 

Greg

 


Re: speaking passwords instead of star

 

Hi
There is an add-on called Speak password, and I wrote a very short article for it. Take a look at: https://saomaicenter.org/en/blog/access-tech/nvda-add-speak-password
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----- Original Message -----
From: Isaac
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2019 11:08 PM
Subject: [nvda] speaking passwords instead of star

Hi, is there a way to set nvda to say a password when I type it instead of star and read the field I am writing in with out it saying star?


Re: NVDA say all command not working.

Eric Hofman
 

Hi Gene

Thank you for your time and suggestion, I will contact the client and try this suggestion. I am familiar with the process of restarting with addons disabled.

 

Many thanks

Eric Hofman

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, 10 January 2019 12:03 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA say all command not working.

 

Try running it with all add-ons disabled.  Do you know how to restart NVdA with all add-ons disabled?  that should be tried before reverting to factory defaults. I'll discuss that in another message if necessary.

 

Gene

----- Original Message ----- 

 

Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2019 5:49 PM

Subject: [nvda] NVDA say all command not working.

 

Hi All

I have a client who is using the latest version of NVDA on a Windows 10 Laptop with Office 2016.

The client is reasonably proficient with using NVDA and reports that when attempting to use the “SAY ALL” ( INSERT+DOWN ARROW ) in word, Outlook, notepad various other programs, that the command fails to read to the end of the Page or Document from the currently focused point. The client states it will usually read to the end of the line, sentence, or paragraph and that repeating the command will prompt NVDA to continue reading but again not to the end as expected.

 

This issue is reported to me as having been occurring for approximately 4 to 6 weeks, So has survived several system reboots. I have ensured via phone that the client is using the latest version and currently there are no updates available for the client.

 

I have been unable to reproduce this issue on a test system or my work system with the latest version or the previous versions of NVDA. Reset to factory defaults would be the next obvious step but I would like to know if this is a known issue or if there is some way of resolving this without a reset to defaults.

 

Any advice or assistance is greatly appreciated.

 

Regards

Eric Hofman

 

 

 

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Re: NVDA say all command not working.

 

Hi Eric,

Is your client using any NVDA add-ons at the moment? If yes, it might be possible that a recent add-on update may have contributed to this problem. If it turns out add-ons might be to blame, have your client follow Gene’s advice of restarting NVDA with add-ons disabled and see if that makes a difference.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Eric Hofman
Sent: Wednesday, January 9, 2019 6:12 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA say all command not working.

 

Hi Joseph

Thank you so much the warm welcome and for taking the time to assist with this issue.

  • I have confirmed with the client that they were using the “Down arrow key” as opposed to the NUMPAD “down arrow”. Unfortunately I neglected to state this in my original message, please accept my apologies for that oversight.

I confirmed they are using a desktop keyboard and believe that their NVDA config is set to desktop keyboard but I will contact and confirm this and relay your message.

 

Thank you again for your time and assistance with this issue.

 

Kind regards

Eric Hofman

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Thursday, 10 January 2019 11:57 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA say all command not working.

 

Hello Eric,

First, welcome to NVDA users list.

If you don’t mind, can you pass on the following message to your client please:

 

Hi,

This is Joseph Lee, one of the developers of NVDA screen reader.

I heard from a person you work with that say all command (NVDA+down arrow) isn’t working for you all the way. This might be caused by one or more of the following:

  • Which key you are pressing: many desktop keyboards (and some laptops) come with two arrow keys: the regular arrow keys, and the set as part of the Numpad. I’m thinking that you might be pressing the Numpad down arrow key with NVDA key, which performs a completely different action. Unless otherwise stated, when NvDA people talk about arrow keys, we usually refer to regular arrow keys.
  • Keyboard layout: NVDA comes with two keyboard layouts to suit the needs of desktop and laptop keyboard users. I’m thinking that somehow you may have switched to laptop keyboard layout. To confirm this, press Control+NVDA+K, then see what the keyboard layout is (the first combo box from keyboard settings).

 

Hope this helps.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Eric Hofman
Sent: Wednesday, January 9, 2019 3:50 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA say all command not working.

 

Hi All

I have a client who is using the latest version of NVDA on a Windows 10 Laptop with Office 2016.

The client is reasonably proficient with using NVDA and reports that when attempting to use the “SAY ALL” ( INSERT+DOWN ARROW ) in word, Outlook, notepad various other programs, that the command fails to read to the end of the Page or Document from the currently focused point. The client states it will usually read to the end of the line, sentence, or paragraph and that repeating the command will prompt NVDA to continue reading but again not to the end as expected.

 

This issue is reported to me as having been occurring for approximately 4 to 6 weeks, So has survived several system reboots. I have ensured via phone that the client is using the latest version and currently there are no updates available for the client.

 

I have been unable to reproduce this issue on a test system or my work system with the latest version or the previous versions of NVDA. Reset to factory defaults would be the next obvious step but I would like to know if this is a known issue or if there is some way of resolving this without a reset to defaults.

 

Any advice or assistance is greatly appreciated.

 

Regards

Eric Hofman

 

 

 

Eric Hofman
AT Helpdesk Support Officer
Commercial & National Services
Vision Australia
373 Old Cleveland Road Coorparoo QLD 4151

T: +617 3727 2230 (I: 701230)
E: Eric.Hofman@...
www.visionaustralia.org

 

The history, culture, diversity and value of all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples are recognised, acknowledged and respected.

 


Re: EyePal

Michael Munn
 

Ok Sounds good. I do need one scaner that I can use instead of KNFB Reader. Email me separetly so I can provide you details. 
Thanks 
Best Regards 
Michael Munn 

Michael Munn
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Students of: Hadley Institute of the Blind




On Wed, Jan 9, 2019 at 6:51 PM Janet Brandly <jbrandly@...> wrote:
Hello Michael and others,
 
The EyePal was/is manufactured by ABiSEE and is sold by FS and other dealers.
When I bought mine there were 2 types, a stand-alone version called the Solo and another type consisting of the camera and separate software to be installed onto a PC. I have the second type. I know the software was updated at least to support Windows 7 and that the camera could also be upgraded. I would be willing to give you the hardware (camera, supporting arm, USB cables etc.) as well as any documentation I have. You would have to contact their support department to update the software and info on modernizing the camera.
 
From: Michael Munn
Sent: Wednesday, January 9, 2019 3:25 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: EyePal, was : [nvda] Need help scanning books
 
Can you email me more detail about this piece of Technology?
II'm interested 
I can't afford getting it right now.
Are you Selling them?