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a freezing issue
Hi.
This happened today after fiddling with a load of 50gb folders which I had to delete and copy back to my drives, and so it was a lot of heavy processing on my new amd laptop. I was listening to a winamp stream to. nvda froze up after I had gone away for a while, explorer crashed then I had to reboot. Its probable that I may never have the same issue, I usually don't handle 2 drives and a lot of data at once like this usually and play audio but anyway here is the log. WARNING - watchdog._watcher (20:04:42.038): Core frozen in stack: File "nvda.pyw", line 217, in <module> File "core.pyo", line 515, in main File "wx\core.pyo", line 2134, in MainLoop File "gui\__init__.pyo", line 963, in Notify File "core.pyo", line 485, in run File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 897, in pumpAll File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 620, in processGenericWinEvent File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 524, in winEventToNVDAEvent File "_UIAHandler.pyo", line 378, in isUIAWindow File "_UIAHandler.pyo", line 366, in _isUIAWindowHelper WARNING - watchdog._watcher (20:04:58.184): Core frozen in stack: File "nvda.pyw", line 217, in <module> File "core.pyo", line 515, in main File "wx\core.pyo", line 2134, in MainLoop File "gui\__init__.pyo", line 963, in Notify File "core.pyo", line 485, in run File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 897, in pumpAll File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 620, in processGenericWinEvent File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 532, in winEventToNVDAEvent File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyo", line 40, in getNVDAObjectFromEvent File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 342, in accessibleObjectFromEvent File "oleacc.pyo", line 265, in AccessibleObjectFromEvent
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Re: NVDA say all command not working.
Eric Hofman
Hi Vlad Thanks for the advice it is appreciated. I did not ask which voice he is using but do recall hearing it in the background during the phone call and I don’t think it was a vocalizer voice, I think it was espeak NG synthesizer but will confirm when I am able to next contact him.
Kind regards Eric Hofman
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io]
On Behalf Of Vlad Dragomir
Sent: Thursday, 10 January 2019 2:17 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA say all command not working.
Hello Eric,
If your client is using the Vocalize voices add-on sold by Code Factory, please let them know that the problem comes from that add-on. It might be a good idea if he/she could write them and ask them to solve this problem. It’s been around for the last two months or so.
Hope this helped a bit. Most sincerely,
Vlad. Eric Hofman
AT Helpdesk Support Officer Commercial & National Services Vision Australia 373 Old Cleveland Road Coorparoo QLD 4151 T: +617 3727 2230 (I: 701230) E: Eric.Hofman@... www.visionaustralia.org 
The history, culture, diversity and value of all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples are recognised, acknowledged and respected.
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Re: NVDA say all command not working.
Vlad Dragomir
Hello Eric,
If your client is using the Vocalize voices add-on sold by Code Factory, please let them know that the problem comes from that add-on. It might be a good idea if he/she could write them and ask them to solve this problem. It’s been around for the last two months or so.
Hope this helped a bit. Most sincerely,
Vlad.
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Re: Win10 system restore
Windows has never kept "an infinite list" of restore points, but tends to keep them for the last 4 or 5 major actions.
When you get to the Restore your computer to the state it was in before the selected event dialog, do you have the checkbox for Show more restore points checked? If not, you'll see only one, the most recent one. -- Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763 A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep. ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back
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Re: Need help scanning books
molly the blind tech lover
Hi. I used to use something called kurzweil 1000. I scanned documents and then the computer would read them to me. I had a giant scanner. I guess it was the kurzweil 1000.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Wednesday, January 9, 2019 10:29 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Need help scanning books
There are flatbed scanners designed specifically for scanning books, called book scanners. I'm not sure how much they cost but they won't damage the spine of the book. You can use a flatbed scanner to scan books, whidch isn't a book scanner and it will work well if it’s a reasonable quality one and those are much cheaper. But you will damage the spines of books, they will become slanted and you may get less money when reselling books. I haven't looked at scanner brands and models for a long time so I won't say much about that. Epson was and I think still is, a popular scanner among blind people. The models blind people bought were in the Perfection series, thus Epson Perfection and then whatever specific scanner you want in that line.
Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: Sociohack AC Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2019 8:44 AM Subject: [nvda] Need help scanning books
Hello guys! Now, since I scan books and documents often for my school work, I need something else. Can't afford the same scanner, it's reasonably costly. Can you guys suggest something? some affordable scanner? Or alternate ways of scanning books? Would a flat bed scanner work? Has anybody used those? --
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Win10 system restore
Pascal Lambert <coccinelle86@...>
Hi, Anyone knows why restore points disappear? Each time I setup one, it is gone after few weeks. I even increased the allocated memory amount and my terabyte drive is 85% empty. I would appreciate any feedback/suggestion. Many thanks Blessings Pascal
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Re: NVDA say all command not working.
Gene
But first, check the keyboard layout.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Eric Hofman
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2019 8:14 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA say all command not
working. Hi Gene Thank you for your time and suggestion, I will contact the client and try this suggestion. I am familiar with the process of restarting with addons disabled.
Many thanks Eric Hofman
From:
nvda@nvda.groups.io
[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Try running it with all add-ons disabled. Do you know how to restart NVdA with all add-ons disabled? that should be tried before reverting to factory defaults. I'll discuss that in another message if necessary.
Gene ----- Original Message -----
From: Eric Hofman Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2019 5:49 PM Subject: [nvda] NVDA say all command not working.
Hi All I have a client who is using the latest version of NVDA on a Windows 10 Laptop with Office 2016. The client is reasonably proficient with using NVDA and reports that when attempting to use the “SAY ALL” ( INSERT+DOWN ARROW ) in word, Outlook, notepad various other programs, that the command fails to read to the end of the Page or Document from the currently focused point. The client states it will usually read to the end of the line, sentence, or paragraph and that repeating the command will prompt NVDA to continue reading but again not to the end as expected.
This issue is reported to me as having been occurring for approximately 4 to 6 weeks, So has survived several system reboots. I have ensured via phone that the client is using the latest version and currently there are no updates available for the client.
I have been unable to reproduce this issue on a test system or my work system with the latest version or the previous versions of NVDA. Reset to factory defaults would be the next obvious step but I would like to know if this is a known issue or if there is some way of resolving this without a reset to defaults.
Any advice or assistance is greatly appreciated.
Regards Eric Hofman
Eric
Hofman
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Tutorials for Navigating iTunes with NVDA
Greg Rhodes
Does anyone know of any tutorials for learning to navigate iTunes with NVDA? Thanks.
Greg
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Re: speaking passwords instead of star
Hi
There is an add-on called Speak password, and I wrote a very short article for it. Take a look at: https://saomaicenter.org/en/blog/access-tech/nvda-add-speak-password Cuong ----------------
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Re: NVDA say all command not working.
Eric Hofman
Hi Gene Thank you for your time and suggestion, I will contact the client and try this suggestion. I am familiar with the process of restarting with addons disabled.
Many thanks Eric Hofman
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io]
On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, 10 January 2019 12:03 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA say all command not working.
Try running it with all add-ons disabled. Do you know how to restart NVdA with all add-ons disabled? that should be tried before reverting to factory defaults. I'll discuss that in another message if necessary.
Gene ----- Original Message -----
From: Eric Hofman Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2019 5:49 PM Subject: [nvda] NVDA say all command not working.
Hi All I have a client who is using the latest version of NVDA on a Windows 10 Laptop with Office 2016. The client is reasonably proficient with using NVDA and reports that when attempting to use the “SAY ALL” ( INSERT+DOWN ARROW ) in word, Outlook, notepad various other programs, that the command fails to read to the end of the Page or Document from the currently focused point. The client states it will usually read to the end of the line, sentence, or paragraph and that repeating the command will prompt NVDA to continue reading but again not to the end as expected.
This issue is reported to me as having been occurring for approximately 4 to 6 weeks, So has survived several system reboots. I have ensured via phone that the client is using the latest version and currently there are no updates available for the client.
I have been unable to reproduce this issue on a test system or my work system with the latest version or the previous versions of NVDA. Reset to factory defaults would be the next obvious step but I would like to know if this is a known issue or if there is some way of resolving this without a reset to defaults.
Any advice or assistance is greatly appreciated.
Regards Eric Hofman
Eric Hofman
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Re: NVDA say all command not working.
Hi Eric, Is your client using any NVDA add-ons at the moment? If yes, it might be possible that a recent add-on update may have contributed to this problem. If it turns out add-ons might be to blame, have your client follow Gene’s advice of restarting NVDA with add-ons disabled and see if that makes a difference. Cheers, Joseph
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Eric Hofman
Sent: Wednesday, January 9, 2019 6:12 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA say all command not working.
Hi Joseph Thank you so much the warm welcome and for taking the time to assist with this issue.
I confirmed they are using a desktop keyboard and believe that their NVDA config is set to desktop keyboard but I will contact and confirm this and relay your message.
Thank you again for your time and assistance with this issue.
Kind regards Eric Hofman
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Hello Eric, First, welcome to NVDA users list. If you don’t mind, can you pass on the following message to your client please:
Hi, This is Joseph Lee, one of the developers of NVDA screen reader. I heard from a person you work with that say all command (NVDA+down arrow) isn’t working for you all the way. This might be caused by one or more of the following:
Hope this helps. Cheers, Joseph
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Eric Hofman
Hi All I have a client who is using the latest version of NVDA on a Windows 10 Laptop with Office 2016. The client is reasonably proficient with using NVDA and reports that when attempting to use the “SAY ALL” ( INSERT+DOWN ARROW ) in word, Outlook, notepad various other programs, that the command fails to read to the end of the Page or Document from the currently focused point. The client states it will usually read to the end of the line, sentence, or paragraph and that repeating the command will prompt NVDA to continue reading but again not to the end as expected.
This issue is reported to me as having been occurring for approximately 4 to 6 weeks, So has survived several system reboots. I have ensured via phone that the client is using the latest version and currently there are no updates available for the client.
I have been unable to reproduce this issue on a test system or my work system with the latest version or the previous versions of NVDA. Reset to factory defaults would be the next obvious step but I would like to know if this is a known issue or if there is some way of resolving this without a reset to defaults.
Any advice or assistance is greatly appreciated.
Regards Eric Hofman
Eric Hofman
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Re: EyePal
Michael Munn
Ok Sounds good. I do need one scaner that I can use instead of KNFB Reader. Email me separetly so I can provide you details. Thanks Best Regards Michael Munn Michael Munn Member: Virginia Association of Blind students National Federation of Virginia www.nfbv.org Member: Maryland Association of Blind Students National Federation of Maryland www.nfbmd.org Students of: Hadley Institute of the Blind
On Wed, Jan 9, 2019 at 6:51 PM Janet Brandly <jbrandly@...> wrote:
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Re: NVDA say all command not working.
Eric Hofman
Hi Joseph Thank you so much the warm welcome and for taking the time to assist with this issue. · I have confirmed with the client that they were using the “Down arrow key” as opposed to the NUMPAD “down arrow”. Unfortunately I neglected to state this in my original message, please accept my apologies for that oversight. I confirmed they are using a desktop keyboard and believe that their NVDA config is set to desktop keyboard but I will contact and confirm this and relay your message.
Thank you again for your time and assistance with this issue.
Kind regards Eric Hofman
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io]
On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Thursday, 10 January 2019 11:57 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA say all command not working.
Hello Eric, First, welcome to NVDA users list. If you don’t mind, can you pass on the following message to your client please:
Hi, This is Joseph Lee, one of the developers of NVDA screen reader. I heard from a person you work with that say all command (NVDA+down arrow) isn’t working for you all the way. This might be caused by one or more of the following:
Hope this helps. Cheers, Joseph
From:
nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Eric Hofman
Hi All I have a client who is using the latest version of NVDA on a Windows 10 Laptop with Office 2016. The client is reasonably proficient with using NVDA and reports that when attempting to use the “SAY ALL” ( INSERT+DOWN ARROW ) in word, Outlook, notepad various other programs, that the command fails to read to the end of the Page or Document from the currently focused point. The client states it will usually read to the end of the line, sentence, or paragraph and that repeating the command will prompt NVDA to continue reading but again not to the end as expected.
This issue is reported to me as having been occurring for approximately 4 to 6 weeks, So has survived several system reboots. I have ensured via phone that the client is using the latest version and currently there are no updates available for the client.
I have been unable to reproduce this issue on a test system or my work system with the latest version or the previous versions of NVDA. Reset to factory defaults would be the next obvious step but I would like to know if this is a known issue or if there is some way of resolving this without a reset to defaults.
Any advice or assistance is greatly appreciated.
Regards Eric Hofman
Eric Hofman
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Re: NVDA say all command not working.
Gene
Try running it with all add-ons disabled. Do
you know how to restart NVdA with all add-ons disabled? that should be
tried before reverting to factory defaults. I'll discuss that in another
message if necessary.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Eric Hofman
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2019 5:49 PM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA say all command not working. Hi All I have a client who is using the latest version of NVDA on a Windows 10 Laptop with Office 2016. The client is reasonably proficient with using NVDA and reports that when attempting to use the “SAY ALL” ( INSERT+DOWN ARROW ) in word, Outlook, notepad various other programs, that the command fails to read to the end of the Page or Document from the currently focused point. The client states it will usually read to the end of the line, sentence, or paragraph and that repeating the command will prompt NVDA to continue reading but again not to the end as expected.
This issue is reported to me as having been occurring for approximately 4 to 6 weeks, So has survived several system reboots. I have ensured via phone that the client is using the latest version and currently there are no updates available for the client.
I have been unable to reproduce this issue on a test system or my work system with the latest version or the previous versions of NVDA. Reset to factory defaults would be the next obvious step but I would like to know if this is a known issue or if there is some way of resolving this without a reset to defaults.
Any advice or assistance is greatly appreciated.
Regards Eric Hofman
Eric Hofman
AT Helpdesk Support Officer Commercial & National Services Vision Australia 373 Old Cleveland Road Coorparoo QLD 4151 T: +617 3727 2230 (I: 701230) E: Eric.Hofman@... www.visionaustralia.org The history, culture, diversity and value of all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples are recognised, acknowledged and respected.
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Re: NVDA say all command not working.
Hello Eric, First, welcome to NVDA users list. If you don’t mind, can you pass on the following message to your client please:
Hi, This is Joseph Lee, one of the developers of NVDA screen reader. I heard from a person you work with that say all command (NVDA+down arrow) isn’t working for you all the way. This might be caused by one or more of the following:
Hope this helps. Cheers, Joseph
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Eric Hofman
Sent: Wednesday, January 9, 2019 3:50 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] NVDA say all command not working.
Hi All I have a client who is using the latest version of NVDA on a Windows 10 Laptop with Office 2016. The client is reasonably proficient with using NVDA and reports that when attempting to use the “SAY ALL” ( INSERT+DOWN ARROW ) in word, Outlook, notepad various other programs, that the command fails to read to the end of the Page or Document from the currently focused point. The client states it will usually read to the end of the line, sentence, or paragraph and that repeating the command will prompt NVDA to continue reading but again not to the end as expected.
This issue is reported to me as having been occurring for approximately 4 to 6 weeks, So has survived several system reboots. I have ensured via phone that the client is using the latest version and currently there are no updates available for the client.
I have been unable to reproduce this issue on a test system or my work system with the latest version or the previous versions of NVDA. Reset to factory defaults would be the next obvious step but I would like to know if this is a known issue or if there is some way of resolving this without a reset to defaults.
Any advice or assistance is greatly appreciated.
Regards Eric Hofman
Eric Hofman
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NVDA say all command not working.
Eric Hofman
Hi All I have a client who is using the latest version of NVDA on a Windows 10 Laptop with Office 2016. The client is reasonably proficient with using NVDA and reports that when attempting to use the “SAY ALL” ( INSERT+DOWN ARROW ) in word, Outlook, notepad various other programs, that the command fails to read to the end of the Page or Document from the currently focused point. The client states it will usually read to the end of the line, sentence, or paragraph and that repeating the command will prompt NVDA to continue reading but again not to the end as expected.
This issue is reported to me as having been occurring for approximately 4 to 6 weeks, So has survived several system reboots. I have ensured via phone that the client is using the latest version and currently there are no updates available for the client.
I have been unable to reproduce this issue on a test system or my work system with the latest version or the previous versions of NVDA. Reset to factory defaults would be the next obvious step but I would like to know if this is a known issue or if there is some way of resolving this without a reset to defaults.
Any advice or assistance is greatly appreciated.
Regards Eric Hofman
Eric Hofman
AT Helpdesk Support Officer Commercial & National Services Vision Australia 373 Old Cleveland Road Coorparoo QLD 4151 T: +617 3727 2230 (I: 701230) E: Eric.Hofman@... www.visionaustralia.org
The history, culture, diversity and value of all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples are recognised, acknowledged and respected.
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Re: FireFox Update Download Problems Cont
Gene
The choice isn't to use the old version or a new
version exclusively. You can use the version you are using now for e-mail
and you can use the current version, run as a portable version for general
browsing. I haven't had problems with the current version of Firefox as
far as accessibility is concerned. I assume you know that older versions
of browsers are more vulnerable to security exploits that allow malicious sites
to download malware and do other things to compromise your machine and steal
personal information.
That's why I am advising that you use a portable
current version for general browsing and the 52.x version for e-mail.
You don't need to join another group to do
this. Many people on the list use portable Firefox and can give you
information.
I'm not saying you shouldn't join the group you are
discussing, there's nothing wrong with having more resources if you want them,
I'm saying for what I am discussing, you can get all the information you need
here.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: David Russell
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2019 5:47 PM
To: nvda
Subject: [nvda] FireFox Update Download Problems
Cont I did a system restore and am back on FF52. Emails could not be read that I compose, and my signature line could not be read either. I had to forward tab once to read email in the inbox. So, whatever advances have been made, benefit me little. I don't know a lot about configuring computers to work in the manner to which I am accustom. I understand there is a support group from Texas that deals with accessibility issues on a more personal level. Does anyone have contact info for them or such a group or service? I cannot afford to update if it limits my known capabilities. Thanks! -- David Russell david.sonofhashem@...
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Re: speaking passwords instead of star
Brian K. Lingard
I am a bad typist; habitually press unwanted keys plus the ones I want.
For this reason, I keep many passwords in a file and copy them into secure fields. Brian K. Lingard
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Isaac
Sent: January 9, 2019 11:09 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] speaking passwords instead of star
Hi, is there a way to set nvda to say a password when I type it instead of star and read the field I am writing in without it saying star? _._,_._,_
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Re: EyePal, was : [nvda] Need help scanning books
Arlene
Hi eye pal is a type of scanner. You can install scanning softwhere on
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it! I have a flat bed eye pal scanner. Yes, the flat bed scanner can be used to scan books. You can fold it up and put it away or leave it on the desk near your computer. If you need it you can pull it out of a drawer and use it as needed!
On 1/9/19, Joseph Weakland <josephweakland@att.net> wrote:
so whats this thing called the iPal? never heard of it.
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Re: EyePal, was : [nvda] Need help scanning books
so whats this thing called the iPal? never heard of it.
On 1/9/2019 4:19 PM, Michael Munn
wrote:
-- Joseph Weakland email josephweakland@... sent from my windows 10 pc
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