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Re: Need help scanning books

Gene
 

I should say that I haven't looked into scanners for years.  Last I knew and from comments I saw on a list perhaps a year or two ago, Epson is still well thought of among blind users of OCR.
 
Gene

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Subject: Re: [nvda] Need help scanning books

hello Gene,

Kurzweil seems a bit expensive for me. However, Epson Perfection series is n the right rice range. Can it be reliably used for scanning books?

And, what other flatbed scanners specific for scanning books you were talking about? Can you provide some names?
--
Regards,
Sociohack


Re: Need help scanning books

Gene
 

There is no Kurzweil scanner.  Kurzweil sells OCr programs. 
 
As I said, if you don't care if the binding of books is bent, Epson scans well. 
 
I assume you are already using an OCR program.

Gene
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Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2019 8:03 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Need help scanning books

hello Gene,

Kurzweil seems a bit expensive for me. However, Epson Perfection series is n the right rice range. Can it be reliably used for scanning books?

And, what other flatbed scanners specific for scanning books you were talking about? Can you provide some names?
--
Regards,
Sociohack


Re: Need help scanning books

Mohib Anwar Rafay
 

I have used couple of flatbed scanners in past. My experience with HP
and Cannon has not been so good, but I am enjoying my Fujitsu flatbed
cum automatic document feader scanner, which is quite fast and clear.

On 1/10/19, Sociohack AC <acsociopath@gmail.com> wrote:
hello Gene,

Kurzweil seems a bit expensive for me. However, Epson Perfection series is n
the right rice range. Can it be reliably used for scanning books?

And, what other flatbed scanners specific for scanning books you were
talking about? Can you provide some names?
--
Regards,
Sociohack



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Re: Win10 system restore

Gene
 

It just sounds like odd things that may happen with System Restore.  I once had all my restore points disappear from my Windows 7 machine.  it never happened again.  I don't know why it would happen every few weeks that all your restore points disappear and System restore is a lot more reliable than it was in Windows XP but I still don't completely trust it.  There may be a third party utility you may want to use or try or you may want to create drive clones at times so you can revert.  I don't know enough to discuss cloning more.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2019 7:36 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Win10 system restore

The problem here is that I see none!  My last one is not there!

Is there something I am not doing or checking to have the restore point remains till I delete it?

Many thanks

Blessings

Pascal

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Subject: Re: [nvda] Win10 system restore

 

Windows has never kept "an infinite list" of restore points, but tends to keep them for the last 4 or 5 major actions.

When you get to the Restore your computer to the state it was in before the selected event dialog, do you have the checkbox for Show more restore points checked?  If not, you'll see only one, the most recent one.
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Re: Need help scanning books

Akshaya Choudhary
 

hello Gene,

Kurzweil seems a bit expensive for me. However, Epson Perfection series is n the right rice range. Can it be reliably used for scanning books?

And, what other flatbed scanners specific for scanning books you were talking about? Can you provide some names?
--
Regards,
Sociohack


Re: Win10 system restore

Pascal Lambert <coccinelle86@...>
 

The problem here is that I see none!  My last one is not there!

Is there something I am not doing or checking to have the restore point remains till I delete it?

Many thanks

Blessings

Pascal

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Sent: Wednesday, January 9, 2019 11:02 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Win10 system restore

 

Windows has never kept "an infinite list" of restore points, but tends to keep them for the last 4 or 5 major actions.

When you get to the Restore your computer to the state it was in before the selected event dialog, do you have the checkbox for Show more restore points checked?  If not, you'll see only one, the most recent one.
--

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Re: Tutorials for Navigating iTunes with NVDA

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It is not as hard as people make it out to be. first let me ask where you are having problems and i can direct you from there. I have been using itunes with NVDEA for years with no problems.
***
Jesus says, follow me and I'll help you through the rough spots.
the world says, hey come with me. My way is broad and easy. So what if you get crap on your shoes. You can always wash it off, can't you!
****

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Sent: Wednesday, January 9, 2019 7:30 PM
Subject: [nvda] Tutorials for Navigating iTunes with NVDA

Does anyone know of any tutorials for learning to navigate iTunes with NVDA? Thanks.

 

Greg

 


Re: NVDA say all command not working.

Ann Byrne
 

Is he using the actual down arrow key, not the one on the numpad????

At 02:58 AM 1/10/2019, you wrote:
Does this also happen in other non office programs, ie is it system wide or specific really.

Which build of windows is in use?

If its all over then maybe something in nvda is corrupted. Only a complete manual removal and reinstall will sort that out, but what synth is in use with nvda?

Not that this should make a difference but...
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Eric Hofman" <Eric.Hofman@visionaustralia.org>
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Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2019 11:49 PM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA say all command not working.


Hi All
I have a client who is using the latest version of NVDA on a Windows 10 Laptop with Office 2016.
The client is reasonably proficient with using NVDA and reports that when attempting to use the "SAY ALL" ( INSERT+DOWN ARROW ) in word, Outlook, notepad various other programs, that the command fails to read to the end of the Page or Document from the currently focused point. The client states it will usually read to the end of the line, sentence, or paragraph and that repeating the command will prompt NVDA to continue reading but again not to the end as expected.

This issue is reported to me as having been occurring for approximately 4 to 6 weeks, So has survived several system reboots. I have ensured via phone that the client is using the latest version and currently there are no updates available for the client.

I have been unable to reproduce this issue on a test system or my work system with the latest version or the previous versions of NVDA. Reset to factory defaults would be the next obvious step but I would like to know if this is a known issue or if there is some way of resolving this without a reset to defaults.

Any advice or assistance is greatly appreciated.

Regards
Eric Hofman


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Re: I see there is a new RC release of nvda on the snapshots page.

Chris
 

 

This is probably a minor fix to 2018.4 is it not?

 

 

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Subject: [nvda] I see there is a new RC release of nvda on the snapshots page.

 

https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/snapshots/

 

Its in the beta section strangely.. :-)

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I see there is a new RC release of nvda on the snapshots page.

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https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/snapshots/

Its in the beta section strangely.. :-)
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Re: a freezing issue

 

Well I have been pushing the system hard today, and had been pushing it really hard all day in win 1809 usually I don't ever hit the limit, and probably won't, however, this amd box seems the only one that seems to do this, but then as I said I have had a multi windowed approach open all day for the last week.

I doubt I will need to do much more of this sort of junk once its all set up.

In fact if I can get past the next few tasks tonight that may be it.

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You really need a complete system dump file for this sort of thing. I imagine that Explorer fell over as it seems to do when its stressed even back on windows 7.
I normally just blip the power button and if that does not start the shut down then its going to have to be a bad shutdown which windows has great delight in telling me happened.
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Shaun Everiss" <sm.everiss@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2019 7:11 AM
Subject: [nvda] a freezing issue


Hi.

This happened today after fiddling with a load of 50gb folders which I had to delete and copy back to my drives, and so it was a lot of heavy processing on my new amd laptop.

I was listening to a winamp stream to.

nvda froze up after I had gone away for a while, explorer crashed then I had to reboot.

Its probable that I may never have the same issue, I usually don't handle 2 drives and a lot of data at once like this usually and play audio but anyway here is the log.

WARNING - watchdog._watcher (20:04:42.038):
Core frozen in stack:
 File "nvda.pyw", line 217, in <module>
 File "core.pyo", line 515, in main
 File "wx\core.pyo", line 2134, in MainLoop
 File "gui\__init__.pyo", line 963, in Notify
 File "core.pyo", line 485, in run
 File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 897, in pumpAll
 File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 620, in processGenericWinEvent
 File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 524, in winEventToNVDAEvent
 File "_UIAHandler.pyo", line 378, in isUIAWindow
 File "_UIAHandler.pyo", line 366, in _isUIAWindowHelper

WARNING - watchdog._watcher (20:04:58.184):
Core frozen in stack:
 File "nvda.pyw", line 217, in <module>
 File "core.pyo", line 515, in main
 File "wx\core.pyo", line 2134, in MainLoop
 File "gui\__init__.pyo", line 963, in Notify
 File "core.pyo", line 485, in run
 File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 897, in pumpAll
 File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 620, in processGenericWinEvent
 File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 532, in winEventToNVDAEvent
 File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyo", line 40, in getNVDAObjectFromEvent
 File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 342, in accessibleObjectFromEvent
 File "oleacc.pyo", line 265, in AccessibleObjectFromEvent







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Re: a freezing issue

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You really need a complete system dump file for this sort of thing. I imagine that Explorer fell over as it seems to do when its stressed even back on windows 7.
I normally just blip the power button and if that does not start the shut down then its going to have to be a bad shutdown which windows has great delight in telling me happened.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Shaun Everiss" <sm.everiss@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2019 7:11 AM
Subject: [nvda] a freezing issue


Hi.

This happened today after fiddling with a load of 50gb folders which I had to delete and copy back to my drives, and so it was a lot of heavy processing on my new amd laptop.

I was listening to a winamp stream to.

nvda froze up after I had gone away for a while, explorer crashed then I had to reboot.

Its probable that I may never have the same issue, I usually don't handle 2 drives and a lot of data at once like this usually and play audio but anyway here is the log.

WARNING - watchdog._watcher (20:04:42.038):
Core frozen in stack:
File "nvda.pyw", line 217, in <module>
File "core.pyo", line 515, in main
File "wx\core.pyo", line 2134, in MainLoop
File "gui\__init__.pyo", line 963, in Notify
File "core.pyo", line 485, in run
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 897, in pumpAll
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 620, in processGenericWinEvent
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 524, in winEventToNVDAEvent
File "_UIAHandler.pyo", line 378, in isUIAWindow
File "_UIAHandler.pyo", line 366, in _isUIAWindowHelper

WARNING - watchdog._watcher (20:04:58.184):
Core frozen in stack:
File "nvda.pyw", line 217, in <module>
File "core.pyo", line 515, in main
File "wx\core.pyo", line 2134, in MainLoop
File "gui\__init__.pyo", line 963, in Notify
File "core.pyo", line 485, in run
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 897, in pumpAll
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 620, in processGenericWinEvent
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 532, in winEventToNVDAEvent
File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyo", line 40, in getNVDAObjectFromEvent
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 342, in accessibleObjectFromEvent
File "oleacc.pyo", line 265, in AccessibleObjectFromEvent




Re: Tutorials for Navigating iTunes with NVDA

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The last person who tried had to be taken away in a van....
grin.
Is there not some software called walta or similar for using with an Iphone?
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Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2019 2:30 AM
Subject: [nvda] Tutorials for Navigating iTunes with NVDA


Does anyone know of any tutorials for learning to navigate iTunes with NVDA? Thanks.

Greg


Re: NVDA say all command not working.

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Does this also happen in other non office programs, ie is it system wide or specific really.

Which build of windows is in use?

If its all over then maybe something in nvda is corrupted. Only a complete manual removal and reinstall will sort that out, but what synth is in use with nvda?

Not that this should make a difference but...
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----- Original Message -----
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To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2019 11:49 PM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA say all command not working.


Hi All
I have a client who is using the latest version of NVDA on a Windows 10 Laptop with Office 2016.
The client is reasonably proficient with using NVDA and reports that when attempting to use the "SAY ALL" ( INSERT+DOWN ARROW ) in word, Outlook, notepad various other programs, that the command fails to read to the end of the Page or Document from the currently focused point. The client states it will usually read to the end of the line, sentence, or paragraph and that repeating the command will prompt NVDA to continue reading but again not to the end as expected.

This issue is reported to me as having been occurring for approximately 4 to 6 weeks, So has survived several system reboots. I have ensured via phone that the client is using the latest version and currently there are no updates available for the client.

I have been unable to reproduce this issue on a test system or my work system with the latest version or the previous versions of NVDA. Reset to factory defaults would be the next obvious step but I would like to know if this is a known issue or if there is some way of resolving this without a reset to defaults.

Any advice or assistance is greatly appreciated.

Regards
Eric Hofman


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Re: FireFox Update Download Problems Cont

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I do not use webmail but those who do tell me a lot of these issues have not been seen in the 64 bit version of Firefox latest builds.


Also if you want a more secure browser then get waterfox. It seems to be being updated but is based on the old rendering engine of mozilla.
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Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2019 1:44 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] FireFox Update Download Problems Cont


The choice isn't to use the old version or a new version exclusively. You can use the version you are using now for e-mail and you can use the current version, run as a portable version for general browsing. I haven't had problems with the current version of Firefox as far as accessibility is concerned. I assume you know that older versions of browsers are more vulnerable to security exploits that allow malicious sites to download malware and do other things to compromise your machine and steal personal information.

That's why I am advising that you use a portable current version for general browsing and the 52.x version for e-mail.

You don't need to join another group to do this. Many people on the list use portable Firefox and can give you information.

I'm not saying you shouldn't join the group you are discussing, there's nothing wrong with having more resources if you want them, I'm saying for what I am discussing, you can get all the information you need here.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: David Russell
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2019 5:47 PM
To: nvda
Subject: [nvda] FireFox Update Download Problems Cont


Hi All,

I did a system restore and am back on FF52. Emails could not be read
that I compose, and my signature line could not be read either. I had
to forward tab once to read email in the inbox. So, whatever advances
have been made, benefit me little. I don't know a lot about
configuring computers to work in the manner to which I am accustom.

I understand there is a support group from Texas that deals with
accessibility issues on a more personal level. Does anyone have
contact info for them or such a group or service?

I cannot afford to update if it limits my known capabilities. Thanks!

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Re: Changing to G-chrome Continued?

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Please though if you are a 64 bit person force the 64 bit version of Firefox, its far better and more reliable in my opinion.
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To: "nvda" <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2019 10:34 PM
Subject: [nvda] Changing to G-chrome Continued?


Hello Brian, Gene and others,

First, apologies on my confusing terms e.g., embed versus
linkification or written links. I meant "written links."
I thought typed links in composing became links in composing. That is
how I understood the term, embed.
My experience duplicates Brian's with links remaining plain text in
the composing part, but if http or https:// is the prefix, then 9
times out of 10, I can count on a link in the processed email.

On my blog, blogspot.com, written links do not appear as links but
plain or html text. That's another story for another time.

As to the FireFox issues preventing me from updating, yes, it dealt
with the speed of Quantum not being able to be handled by screen
readers. This was a little over one year ago I think.

I will go ahead and update as I get the choice each time I go browsing.
- Gene, thanks for the command for turning the browser on and off. You
folks were and are very helpful!
Kind Regards,
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Re: Changing to G-Chrome? Continued

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Yes I get annoyed by companies and organisations who seen me hidden links where the text merely says here as the link. I often need to make a script to be read out of the text in these emails which means I need to go to every link and cut and paste the address bar as well as the actual text into my document to be read. If you look at these emails in plain text often the link is not as the web site shows it, but is a huge tracking link hidden behind the text as the sender is trying to get metrics from the user as to what is the most popular areas of the web sit.

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Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2019 9:20 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Changing to G-Chrome? Continued


On Wed, Jan 9, 2019 at 02:01 PM, David Russell wrote:


When pasting, the URL is read without the word link. When reading the
copy sent to myself, the link is there, and it works!
This is typical behavior. If you do not copy the link with a "Copy Link Location" command, or similar, or have a link that is presented as click-through text selected, then all you're getting is the link text, not the hyperlink. If you select only the part of a link that comes after the https:// or http:// it will still be considered text, not a link.

The e-mail interface "linkifies" plain text that it recognizes as being presented in link format. It's easy enough to try. Type a list of URLs by hand. In the compose window they will not be presented to you, the composer, as links. Once the message is sent, and you're viewing it in the sent folder, they will (as they will for the receiver).

Copy http://www.washingtonpost.com in its entirety, from the H in http to the m in com, then paste it when composing. You'll have a link. Then afterward type out what comes after the http:// by hand. In the compose window you'll have plain text for the second. But once sent both will show up as links once "linkification" has been done on the second one by Gmail or an e-mail client.

If you copy and paste in a full hyperlink it will read as "link". There's a difference between text that can be linkified and an actual link itself. It's worked this way for as long as I can remember, and there was a time where "linkification" did not occur. It was a new feature many moons ago.

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Re: Changing from FireFox to G-Chrome Continued

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They are and were mostly due to the new interface. However I still find them in 32 bit versions of Firefox, ie weird no sign of browse mode detection and much more, but when I went to the full 64 bit versions then things are a lot better. My main suspicion is a timing issue on the slower 32 built code that makes nvda not see things it should b. Its hard to pin down as its so hit and miss, but certainly the 64 bit one does not seem to have the problem.
People with more brain cells than I will probably explain it!

However I do not use facebook and to my mind many many people complain about weird page design causing strange things to happen.
If in the main hyperlinks work, often you can put the problems down to the web site itself. its very easy to make links look like links, but not work on a web site so maybe its intentional.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Vogel" <britechguy@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2019 6:49 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Changing from FireFox to G-Chrome Continued


On Wed, Jan 9, 2019 at 01:18 PM, David Russell wrote:


I am using FF-52 because of the formerly felt concerns with more
recent editions such as 57, 60 and perhaps 63. If those are now
alleviated, I will update.
And what are those? I ask because I know there were some, but it's been so long I've forgotten. I also have had multiple clients on the Quantum versions of Firefox and we've not had any difficulties recently, that's for sure.

Any time I paste in text that can be recognized as a link in Gmail it "linkifies" it. Sometimes things without www. on the front are, or are not, linkified but anything that has it and that has the correct remaining format always is.

I just did this with the text britechguy.com (my own website) and www.smashwords.com, ( http://www.smashwords.com, ) both pasted in as plain text, and both were linkified when I received the message. They don't instantly show that during compose, it's part of the processing once you hit Send.
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Re: speaking passwords instead of star

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You may find if it says nothing, than speak passwords won't operate, or to be more accurate, the echo back might not actually be what you put in at your end.
I know of no real way to find this out, as after all if the password repeated back instead of star or circle or whatever, then anyone could see it.
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From: "Isaac" <bigikemusic@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2019 4:27 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] speaking passwords instead of star


Well, I have a program that is very slugish about entering passwords so I want them spoken aloud to know there inputted as this particular program doesn't say star or anything.
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Sent: Wednesday, January 9, 2019 10:23 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] speaking passwords instead of star


On Wed, Jan 9, 2019 at 11:20 AM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:

especially in a public place like a library.



I doubt that many do this, but any that do have no one to blame but themselves when the inevitable account compromises come.

Passwords (or pass phrases) belong in two areas: One's own head and/or a password manager program that encrypts the file containing the actual passwords.

All the reasons that have ever been given for reading them aloud when typed ring entirely hollow to me.

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