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Re: query about windows 10 with NVDA

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A little vague. Could there be a lot of updates downloading as it not been on the web for some time?
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Meet modi" <meetmodi2359@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2019 6:44 PM
Subject: [nvda] query about windows 10 with NVDA


hi all
I hope all are fine
friend's i have query about windows 10 with NVDA friends I start my PC
after 15 days when i start my PC little bit slow down with NVDA then I try
to reset it fro settings but problem is not solve what can we do? pleae
give your suggestions?



Re: website beeping

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Have you got the tabs or line indents set to beep or something similar?
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Giles Turnbull" <giles.turnbull@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2019 1:21 PM
Subject: [nvda] website beeping


Hi all,

I'm curious whether anybody else has noticed that some websites, admitedly relatively few, make a sort of beeping sound when cursoring down through the page? It doesn't happen when using say all.

This website is doing it when I visited it this morning:
https://www.movebubble.com/london/area-guides/2017/09/stratford-london-guide

It's kind of like the beeping to indicate percentage progress, but it is apparently not associated with any media loading, just the act of using the cursor keys to navigate up or down the webpage.

Thanks for any insight :)

Giles


Re: Screen Curtain and Virtual Review: new versions are out #addonrelease

 

hi joseph.
thanks so much for your great works.
may i ask that which versions of nvda screen curtain supports?
for example: if one day i install windows 7 and screen curtain, can i
use my favorit version of nvda (2017.2) with screen curtain?
thanks again for any help, God bless you!

On 1/13/19, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...> wrote:
Hi,

A proof of concept is a product that demonstrates an idea. In this case,
NVDA issue 7857 deals with a suggestion to add screen curtain functionality
to NVDA, and this work is being done by a developer in Europe.

The whole idea behind Screen Curtain add-on was to gather feedback from the
NVDA community about this very feature. Based on feedback from users, this
European developer made some changes to this feature which is slowly taking
shape at the moment.

In fact, Screen Curtain isn't the first proof of concept add-on. That honor
belongs to Control Usage Assistant (now discontinued), an add-on developed
by me that added context-sensitive help messages for various controls. Nor
Add-on Updater will be the latest proof of concept add-on that has
graduated
to stable release status, nor Windows 10 App Essentials the only one where
the add-on is used to do early field testing for eventual NVDA pull
requests. In case of Add-on Updater, it is the realization of NVDA issue
3208 (an issue I myself wrote) that advocated adding add-on update feature
to NVDA, and I'm actively working on a pull request to make that into
reality. Regarding Windows 10 App Essentials, one or more important
features
from that add-on has just been transferred to NVDA, and will show up as
part
of upcoming 2019.1 release (specifically, in NVDA 2019.1, you won't need
Windows 10 App Essentials to benefit from improved usability of various
time
pickers in Windows 10; speaking of features, emoji panel support was
originally part of my add-on until it was transferred to NVDA in 2018.3).

My sincere apologies for my tone.

Cheers,

Joseph

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ron Canazzi
Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2019 9:17 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Screen Curtain and Virtual Review: new versions are out
#AddonRelease



Hi Joseph,



Just exactly what does 'proof of content' mean? I went to the add on page
and it really doesn't say exactly except that it 'addresses core issue
7857.' What is that issue?



On 1/13/2019 10:56 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hi all,



I'm delighted to announce the release of Virtual review 2.4 and Screen
Curtain latest snapshot build (note that Screen Curtain is a proof of
concept add-on). In case of Virtual Review, version 2.4 includes latest
localizations from many language communities.



As always, the new updates are just an update check away (via Add-on
Updater, which itself will get an update very soon).



Cheers,

Joseph

--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"






--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali


Re: speaking passwords instead of star

Brian K. Lingard
 

Dear Giles & List:

 

Mot sure, if NVDA provides means of reading the asci value of a character, however, if it does, finding out the new character should be simple.

If need be, you can install a demo of JAWS and use it in 40-minute mode to discover the masking characters.

Brian K. Lingard

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf of Giles Turnbull
Sent: January 11, 2019 9:33 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] speaking passwords instead of star

 

Hi Brian,

It is just the initial logon screen for Win10. I use a PIN and each number is obfuscated with a character that NVDA describes as a circle, but my old dictionary entry for this circle symbol, ●, to be spoken as "star" has stopped working, which makes me think Microsoft have changed which symbol is being used.

It is not a major issue but I did like to hear that a symbol, be it a circle or an asterisk, had been typed :) I will play around with some of the other bullet / circle symbols in the NVDA dictionary at some point :)

Giles

_._,_._,_


Re: Screen Curtain and Virtual Review: new versions are out #addonrelease

 

Hi,

A proof of concept is a product that demonstrates an idea. In this case, NVDA issue 7857 deals with a suggestion to add screen curtain functionality to NVDA, and this work is being done by a developer in Europe.

The whole idea behind Screen Curtain add-on was to gather feedback from the NVDA community about this very feature. Based on feedback from users, this European developer made some changes to this feature which is slowly taking shape at the moment.

In fact, Screen Curtain isn’t the first proof of concept add-on. That honor belongs to Control Usage Assistant (now discontinued), an add-on developed by me that added context-sensitive help messages for various controls. Nor Add-on Updater will be the latest proof of concept add-on that has graduated to stable release status, nor Windows 10 App Essentials the only one where the add-on is used to do early field testing for eventual NVDA pull requests. In case of Add-on Updater, it is the realization of NVDA issue 3208 (an issue I myself wrote) that advocated adding add-on update feature to NVDA, and I’m actively working on a pull request to make that into reality. Regarding Windows 10 App Essentials, one or more important features from that add-on has just been transferred to NVDA, and will show up as part of upcoming 2019.1 release (specifically, in NVDA 2019.1, you won’t need Windows 10 App Essentials to benefit from improved usability of various time pickers in Windows 10; speaking of features, emoji panel support was originally part of my add-on until it was transferred to NVDA in 2018.3).

My sincere apologies for my tone.

Cheers,

Joseph

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ron Canazzi
Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2019 9:17 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Screen Curtain and Virtual Review: new versions are out #AddonRelease

 

Hi Joseph,

 

Just exactly what does 'proof of content' mean?  I went to the add on page and it really doesn't say exactly except that it 'addresses core issue 7857.' What is that issue?

 

On 1/13/2019 10:56 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hi all,

 

I’m delighted to announce the release of Virtual review 2.4 and Screen Curtain latest snapshot build (note that Screen Curtain is a proof of concept add-on). In case of Virtual Review, version 2.4 includes latest localizations from many language communities.

 

As always, the new updates are just an update check away (via Add-on Updater, which itself will get an update very soon).

 

Cheers,

Joseph

-- 
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Re: Minimum Specs for NVDA with Other Intensive Applications

Brian K. Lingard
 

Dear Monte & List:
Yes, you are correct; Admin rights are required to install programs on a network PC. Perhaps the PCs at Noah's school are stand-alone; actually saw a computer class running at CNIB in Toronto that way. Found at least one PC where the users just shut off power to the unit rather than exiting programs properly. Had an extraordinary number of cross-linked files. Told me the teacher never checked the systems for disk health or anything else, such as viruses.

Brian K. Lingard

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf of Monte Single
Sent: January 11, 2019 9:13 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Minimum Specs for NVDA with Other Intensive Applications

You cannot install the Belarc advisor on a machine that is part of a network if you do not have administrative rights. I know I tried.

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf of Brian K. Lingard
Sent: January-11-19 5:19 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Minimum Specs for NVDA with Other Intensive Applications

Dear Noah & List:

Running a screenreader adds a fair bit of work to a PC as you have a software synthesizer. You could offload the work of speaking by using a hardware synthesizer such as a Doubletalk or Triple talk. Your laptop needs SSD not a mechanical hard disk with 8, 16 or 32 GB RAM. 32 GB is best if you plan to do video and/or audio editing & recording. The PC at your school may have as little as one GB RAM and a slow CPU. Giving the laptop adequate RAM ids, more important that high-performance CPU. Look for a laptop with a fast, but not necessarily Intel I8 speed. An Intel I5 or six CPU should work fine. You consume CPU cycles a lot if you do sound or video editing, recalculate mammoth spreadsheets and run many programs concurrently.
Web browsing is light work for a PC.
Download the Belarc Advisor from HTTPS://www.belarc.com. Run it on the problem computers at school. Lists the CPU chip, installed RAM, software licenses, everything worth knowing about the PC. Also gives information on the SSD or Hard Disk. Program is free for personal use.
Brian K. Lingard

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf of Noah Carver via Groups.Io
Sent: January 10, 2019 6:53 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Minimum Specs for NVDA with Other Intensive Applications

Hi All,
I will need to get a laptop for school; however, the school machines cannot run NVDA plus Chrome and Word all at the same time without lagging.
What I need is a powerful machine that can handle email, office, and web Browsing, ETC. without wimping out on me while I am trying to do work. Do you have any recommendations for specs or any particular laptops that you might recommend?

Thanks,

Noah


Re: Screen Curtain and Virtual Review: new versions are out #addonrelease

Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Joseph,


Just exactly what does 'proof of content' mean?  I went to the add on page and it really doesn't say exactly except that it 'addresses core issue 7857.' What is that issue?


On 1/13/2019 10:56 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hi all,

 

I’m delighted to announce the release of Virtual review 2.4 and Screen Curtain latest snapshot build (note that Screen Curtain is a proof of concept add-on). In case of Virtual Review, version 2.4 includes latest localizations from many language communities.

 

As always, the new updates are just an update check away (via Add-on Updater, which itself will get an update very soon).

 

Cheers,

Joseph

-- 
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Re: Screen Curtain and Virtual Review: new versions are out #addonrelease

MariaRosa Chapman
 

Hi.

great.

thanks.

Maria


On 14 Jan 2019, at 3:23 pm, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...> wrote:

Hi,
You can meet 40 plus NVDA add-ons at:
 
Some were inspired by feature suggestions for NVDA, others add features from other screen readers, still others make life easier for some users, while others are things only seen with NVDA.
Cheers,
Joseph
 
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of MariaRosa Chapman
Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2019 8:14 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Screen Curtain and Virtual Review: new versions are out #AddonRelease
 
HI.
 
where do we go to get these?
thanks.
Maria
 


On 14 Jan 2019, at 2:56 pm, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...> wrote:
 
Hi all,
 
I’m delighted to announce the release of Virtual review 2.4 and Screen Curtain latest snapshot build (note that Screen Curtain is a proof of concept add-on). In case of Virtual Review, version 2.4 includes latest localizations from many language communities.
 
As always, the new updates are just an update check away (via Add-on Updater, which itself will get an update very soon).
 
Cheers,
Joseph
 



Re: Screen Curtain and Virtual Review: new versions are out #addonrelease

 

Hi,

You can meet 40 plus NVDA add-ons at:

https://addons.nvda-project.org

 

Some were inspired by feature suggestions for NVDA, others add features from other screen readers, still others make life easier for some users, while others are things only seen with NVDA.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of MariaRosa Chapman
Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2019 8:14 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Screen Curtain and Virtual Review: new versions are out #AddonRelease

 

HI.

 

where do we go to get these?

thanks.

Maria

 



On 14 Jan 2019, at 2:56 pm, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...> wrote:

 

Hi all,

 

I’m delighted to announce the release of Virtual review 2.4 and Screen Curtain latest snapshot build (note that Screen Curtain is a proof of concept add-on). In case of Virtual Review, version 2.4 includes latest localizations from many language communities.

 

As always, the new updates are just an update check away (via Add-on Updater, which itself will get an update very soon).

 

Cheers,

Joseph

 


Re: Screen Curtain and Virtual Review: new versions are out #addonrelease

MariaRosa Chapman
 

HI.

where do we go to get these?
thanks.
Maria


On 14 Jan 2019, at 2:56 pm, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...> wrote:

Hi all,

 

I’m delighted to announce the release of Virtual review 2.4 and Screen Curtain latest snapshot build (note that Screen Curtain is a proof of concept add-on). In case of Virtual Review, version 2.4 includes latest localizations from many language communities.

 

As always, the new updates are just an update check away (via Add-on Updater, which itself will get an update very soon).

 

Cheers,

Joseph



Re: [nvda-addons] Screen Curtain and Virtual Review: new versions are out #addonrelease

Adriani Botez
 

What are the changes for screen curtain?

Cheers
Adriani


Von meinem iPhone gesendet

Am 14.01.2019 um 04:56 schrieb Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...>:

Hi all,

 

I’m delighted to announce the release of Virtual review 2.4 and Screen Curtain latest snapshot build (note that Screen Curtain is a proof of concept add-on). In case of Virtual Review, version 2.4 includes latest localizations from many language communities.

 

As always, the new updates are just an update check away (via Add-on Updater, which itself will get an update very soon).

 

Cheers,

Joseph


Screen Curtain and Virtual Review: new versions are out #addonrelease

 

Hi all,

 

I’m delighted to announce the release of Virtual review 2.4 and Screen Curtain latest snapshot build (note that Screen Curtain is a proof of concept add-on). In case of Virtual Review, version 2.4 includes latest localizations from many language communities.

 

As always, the new updates are just an update check away (via Add-on Updater, which itself will get an update very soon).

 

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: can't select radio buttons in a webpage

Gene
 

The way radio buttons are supposed to work when not in browse mode anywhere is that you move to it and moving to it, giving it focus causes it to be selected.  You move to the radio button you want to select in a dialog, then tab out of the field.  You are finished in that field.  The reason they are called radio buttons is because, as in a car, they are designed to only allow one selection.  You move to the radio button you want to select and it is the only radio button that can be selected, just as in a car radio, one radio button moves you to one station and you can only activate one at a time.
 
When you are in browse mode, you can activate a radio button with the space bar.  When not in browse mode, but in forms mode, every time you move up or down in a list of radio buttons on a web site, you are selecting the button you move to.
 
Browse has its own way of allowing users to select a radio button.  But as I said, when you are in browse mode, you can use this method.  When not in browse mode, because it is off while you are on a web page or because you are somewhere where there is no browse mode, you up and down arrow and every radio button you move to is selected and no other one is.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2019 5:59 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] can't select radio buttons in a webpage

OK, I reviewed standard radio buttons with no JS attached, and it is space, not return that will cause a focused non-selected radio button to be selected. Note however, that except for use within a screen reader it is fairly difficult to put focus on a radio button without also selecting it. Generally a  radio group has one tab stop and if no item in the tab group is selected when the radio group is tabbed to either the first or last item will receive focus and be selected. Thereafter using arrow keys will move focus and selection to other radio buttons within the group. In any case, generally both space and return when inNVDA browse mode will cause the selected radio button to be selected. Of course, specific event handlers either from boot strap or from the Bank’s JavaScript are preventing standard radio button behavior. I did see a 

data-toggle=”buttons” attribute surrounding the radio buttons. From some quick glances at comments on the web, this is a boot strap process designed to create check boxes that act like radio buttons but can be unselected, but I believe the latest boot strap has also disabled this  type of widget.

Of course the real issue is where is  the bug causing NVDA with Chrome difficult to select a radio button in this style. It the issue is limited to the bank, then I am not concerned. If it is a boot strap issue, then that is more worrisome. Anybody with experience developing boot strap sites feel like coding up a quick example?

 

 

 

From: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Gene <gsasner@...>
Reply-To: "nvda@nvda.groups.io" <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Date: Sunday, January 13, 2019 at 5:52 PM
To: "nvda@nvda.groups.io" <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] can't select radio buttons in a webpage

 

What are you basing your description of radio button function on?  If you are in browse mode, you should be able to press space bar on a radio button on a web site and it will be selected.  This is different than a dialog box, where radio buttons are automatically selected by up or down arrowing through them.  the one you are on is automatically selected.  Return is never used to select a radio button and using return to try to select it may have unwanted consequences such as activating the default button in a dialog, such as the ok button. 

 

If you are in forms mode on a web site, up and down arrowing should automatically select radio buttons, as in a dialog. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2019 4:42 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] can't select radio buttons in a webpage

 

I looked a little at the HTML code, and the readio buttons are coded as standard radio buttons and don’t appear to have any strange HTML code. I believe the CSS layout is farily modern without using tables for layout purposes, not that that would effect accessibility by Chrome.

 

With no screen reader and using Safari on a Macintosh , I believe my wife found it difficult to change between investments and the other two categories of the radio button. I believe there might be a change event listener on the radio button, but I am not great at that level of page debugging. They have certainly done some work to make dialog boxes work correctly for screen readers, so I expect it is an oversight of the developers that the site does not work properly with NVDA and Chrome. I would suggest contacting the bank and tell them you are having some accessibility issues.

 

Correct keyboard behavior should be:

  1. When focus is on a radio button using arrow keys will select another radio button.
  2. When focus is on a unselected radio button return should select that radio button.

Hope this help!

 

Jonathan

 

 

From: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Alexandre Alves Toco <alexandretoco@...>
Reply-To: "nvda@nvda.groups.io" <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Date: Saturday, January 12, 2019 at 1:41 PM
To: "nvda@nvda.groups.io" <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] can't select radio buttons in a webpage

 

                                                               Hi friends!

Although the following page is in portuguese, if you press f you will be placed in the first group of radio buttons.

I was trying to select the button whose labe is investimentos. But I couldn’t.

I made this test in schrome.

https://internetbanking.ourinvest.com.br/Cadastro/DadosIniciais

 

 

Enviado do Email para Windows 10

 


Re: can't select radio buttons in a webpage

Jonathan COHN
 

OK, I reviewed standard radio buttons with no JS attached, and it is space, not return that will cause a focused non-selected radio button to be selected. Note however, that except for use within a screen reader it is fairly difficult to put focus on a radio button without also selecting it. Generally a  radio group has one tab stop and if no item in the tab group is selected when the radio group is tabbed to either the first or last item will receive focus and be selected. Thereafter using arrow keys will move focus and selection to other radio buttons within the group. In any case, generally both space and return when inNVDA browse mode will cause the selected radio button to be selected. Of course, specific event handlers either from boot strap or from the Bank’s JavaScript are preventing standard radio button behavior. I did see a 

data-toggle=”buttons” attribute surrounding the radio buttons. From some quick glances at comments on the web, this is a boot strap process designed to create check boxes that act like radio buttons but can be unselected, but I believe the latest boot strap has also disabled this  type of widget.

Of course the real issue is where is  the bug causing NVDA with Chrome difficult to select a radio button in this style. It the issue is limited to the bank, then I am not concerned. If it is a boot strap issue, then that is more worrisome. Anybody with experience developing boot strap sites feel like coding up a quick example?

 

 

 

From: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Gene <gsasner@...>
Reply-To: "nvda@nvda.groups.io" <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Date: Sunday, January 13, 2019 at 5:52 PM
To: "nvda@nvda.groups.io" <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] can't select radio buttons in a webpage

 

What are you basing your description of radio button function on?  If you are in browse mode, you should be able to press space bar on a radio button on a web site and it will be selected.  This is different than a dialog box, where radio buttons are automatically selected by up or down arrowing through them.  the one you are on is automatically selected.  Return is never used to select a radio button and using return to try to select it may have unwanted consequences such as activating the default button in a dialog, such as the ok button. 

 

If you are in forms mode on a web site, up and down arrowing should automatically select radio buttons, as in a dialog. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2019 4:42 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] can't select radio buttons in a webpage

 

I looked a little at the HTML code, and the readio buttons are coded as standard radio buttons and don’t appear to have any strange HTML code. I believe the CSS layout is farily modern without using tables for layout purposes, not that that would effect accessibility by Chrome.

 

With no screen reader and using Safari on a Macintosh , I believe my wife found it difficult to change between investments and the other two categories of the radio button. I believe there might be a change event listener on the radio button, but I am not great at that level of page debugging. They have certainly done some work to make dialog boxes work correctly for screen readers, so I expect it is an oversight of the developers that the site does not work properly with NVDA and Chrome. I would suggest contacting the bank and tell them you are having some accessibility issues.

 

Correct keyboard behavior should be:

  1. When focus is on a radio button using arrow keys will select another radio button.
  2. When focus is on a unselected radio button return should select that radio button.

Hope this help!

 

Jonathan

 

 

From: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Alexandre Alves Toco <alexandretoco@...>
Reply-To: "nvda@nvda.groups.io" <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Date: Saturday, January 12, 2019 at 1:41 PM
To: "nvda@nvda.groups.io" <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] can't select radio buttons in a webpage

 

                                                               Hi friends!

Although the following page is in portuguese, if you press f you will be placed in the first group of radio buttons.

I was trying to select the button whose labe is investimentos. But I couldn’t.

I made this test in schrome.

https://internetbanking.ourinvest.com.br/Cadastro/DadosIniciais

 

 

Enviado do Email para Windows 10

 


Re: can't select radio buttons in a webpage

Gene
 

What are you basing your description of radio button function on?  If you are in browse mode, you should be able to press space bar on a radio button on a web site and it will be selected.  This is different than a dialog box, where radio buttons are automatically selected by up or down arrowing through them.  the one you are on is automatically selected.  Return is never used to select a radio button and using return to try to select it may have unwanted consequences such as activating the default button in a dialog, such as the ok button. 
 
If you are in forms mode on a web site, up and down arrowing should automatically select radio buttons, as in a dialog. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2019 4:42 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] can't select radio buttons in a webpage

I looked a little at the HTML code, and the readio buttons are coded as standard radio buttons and don’t appear to have any strange HTML code. I believe the CSS layout is farily modern without using tables for layout purposes, not that that would effect accessibility by Chrome.

 

With no screen reader and using Safari on a Macintosh , I believe my wife found it difficult to change between investments and the other two categories of the radio button. I believe there might be a change event listener on the radio button, but I am not great at that level of page debugging. They have certainly done some work to make dialog boxes work correctly for screen readers, so I expect it is an oversight of the developers that the site does not work properly with NVDA and Chrome. I would suggest contacting the bank and tell them you are having some accessibility issues.

 

Correct keyboard behavior should be:

  1. When focus is on a radio button using arrow keys will select another radio button.
  2. When focus is on a unselected radio button return should select that radio button.

Hope this help!

 

Jonathan

 

 

From: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Alexandre Alves Toco <alexandretoco@...>
Reply-To: "nvda@nvda.groups.io" <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Date: Saturday, January 12, 2019 at 1:41 PM
To: "nvda@nvda.groups.io" <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] can't select radio buttons in a webpage

 

                                                               Hi friends!

Although the following page is in portuguese, if you press f you will be placed in the first group of radio buttons.

I was trying to select the button whose labe is investimentos. But I couldn’t.

I made this test in schrome.

https://internetbanking.ourinvest.com.br/Cadastro/DadosIniciais

 

 

Enviado do Email para Windows 10

 


Re: can't select radio buttons in a webpage

Jonathan COHN
 

I looked a little at the HTML code, and the readio buttons are coded as standard radio buttons and don’t appear to have any strange HTML code. I believe the CSS layout is farily modern without using tables for layout purposes, not that that would effect accessibility by Chrome.

 

With no screen reader and using Safari on a Macintosh , I believe my wife found it difficult to change between investments and the other two categories of the radio button. I believe there might be a change event listener on the radio button, but I am not great at that level of page debugging. They have certainly done some work to make dialog boxes work correctly for screen readers, so I expect it is an oversight of the developers that the site does not work properly with NVDA and Chrome. I would suggest contacting the bank and tell them you are having some accessibility issues.

 

Correct keyboard behavior should be:

  1. When focus is on a radio button using arrow keys will select another radio button.
  2. When focus is on a unselected radio button return should select that radio button.

Hope this help!

 

Jonathan

 

 

From: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Alexandre Alves Toco <alexandretoco@...>
Reply-To: "nvda@nvda.groups.io" <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Date: Saturday, January 12, 2019 at 1:41 PM
To: "nvda@nvda.groups.io" <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] can't select radio buttons in a webpage

 

                                                               Hi friends!

Although the following page is in portuguese, if you press f you will be placed in the first group of radio buttons.

I was trying to select the button whose labe is investimentos. But I couldn’t.

I made this test in schrome.

https://internetbanking.ourinvest.com.br/Cadastro/DadosIniciais

 

 

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Re: query about windows 10 with NVDA

Sarah k Alawami
 

What do you mean it's slow? Nvda? The pc? Can you be a bit more clear? We, the nvda comnity cannot read yoru mind, well, not yet anyway. What kind of pc do you have, specks? Windows version?

On 13 Jan 2019, at 10:44, Meet modi wrote:

hi all
I hope all are fine
friend's i have query about windows 10 with NVDA friends I start my PC after 15 days when i start my PC little bit slow down with NVDA then I try to reset it fro settings but problem is not solve what can we do? pleae give your suggestions?


query about windows 10 with NVDA

Meet modi
 

hi all
I hope all are fine
friend's i have query about windows 10 with NVDA friends I start my PC after 15 days when i start my PC little bit slow down with NVDA then I try to reset it fro settings but problem is not solve what can we do? pleae give your suggestions?


Re: FW: [win10] NVDA?

Gene
 

As for the first question, all that is needed is a link to the NVDA home page, assuming the person is asking for the latest production version and the person indicates nothing else.  I’ll give the link at the end of this message. 
 
As for the second question, you download one file.  If you wanht more functionality, look at the NVDA add-ons page.  There are no downloadable scripts, only add-ons.
The link for the add-ons page is:
The link for the home page is:
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Joseph Lee
Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2019 11:56 AM
Subject: [nvda] FW: [win10] NVDA?
 
Hi,
I figured it'd be best to forward the below question to this list in hopes
that we can get others to assist this person (I know some folks are members
of both lists, so feel free to comment on one of them).
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kliph via
Groups.Io
Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2019 9:50 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: [win10] NVDA?

Where would I get the latest download for NVDA?  And is everything in 1
file, or do I have to download scripts or something?  Thanks.






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