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Re: Want to upgrade computer
Antony Stone
If you have a 32-bit version of Windows (no matter whether the machine's
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hardware is 32- or 64-bit) then it will not use more than 3Gbytes of RAM. This tends to give disappointing performance when running a screenreader alongside other applications, as well as being a waste of money for the unusable RAM. Antony.
On Monday 14 January 2019 at 12:35:38, Gene wrote:
Isn't there a 32 bit version of Windows 10? What if the machine is a 32bit --
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Re: Want to upgrade computer
Gene
Isn't there a 32 bit version of Windows 10?
What if the machine is a 32bit machine?
Also, what version of Windows is currently being
run? You may just have minor annoyances when Microsoft imposes two full
upgrades on you a year. Microsoft may slow the schedule down but we don't
know if it will, but some people have more annoying problems or even serious
ones after an imposed Microsoft upgrade on occasion. So my question is,
why do you want to upgrade? If the reason isn't pressing, you might want
to leave things as they are.
Gene
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From: Antony Stone
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2019 5:22 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Want to upgrade computer 2. I would recommend more than 4Gbytes of RAM, and make certain you have 64- bit Windows. 3. See the thread on this list starting Friday 11th entitled "Minimum Specs for NVDA with Other Intensive Applications". Regards, Antony. On Monday 14 January 2019 at 12:16:38, farhan israk wrote: > I want to upgrade my computer. Is core i3 processor and 4gb ram enough for > normal windows 10 user? -- This sentence contains exacly three erors. Please reply to the list; please *don't* CC me.
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Re: Slightly OT: Hardware speech synthesizer
Brian K. Lingard
Dear Brian & List:
There is a USB edition of the Triple Talk hardware synthesizer. While many devices have their highest Baud rate as 9,600 BPS, newer Uarts such as the 16550 ones can easily run at 115,200 BPS, this over a plain old RS-232C serial port. Helps if you use hardware flow control rather than DC1/DC33 XX-On/x-Off software flow control. Hardware flow control is instant; X-on/x-off has to be processed by the sending computer. Have no stats on what really nice-sounding voices such as the ones that shipped with the Dec Talk synthesizers do to CPU usage. If you find you want to use a really nice synthetic voice, you can purchase a hardware synthesizer; however, not all hardware synthesizers have really nice voices. With modern PC speeds what they are, buying a PC with a moderately fast to super-fast CPU should be more than adequate to handle any synthesizer voice. Brian K. Lingard From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io Sent: January 11, 2019 11:20 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Slightly OT: Hardware speech synthesizer The real question though is this. Can they be more efficient in real terms than the inbuilt espeak? I did some tests back in the XP days when I had access to one, and to me at least there was nothing much in it. Of course, the old interface used a serial port on my old computer, so it could well be that this ancient device was a bottleneck. Brian bglists@... Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal E-mail to- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' In the display name field. From: "Brian K. Lingard" <bkl@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Friday, January 11, 2019 3:22 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] Slightly OT: Hardware speech synthesizer Dear Felix & List: I believe the triple talk synthesizer is still manufactured. So is the Votrax Personal Speech System by the Federal Screw Works. Brian K. Lingard From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf of Felix G. Sent: January 11, 2019 7:26 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] Slightly OT: Hardware speech synthesizer Hello everyone, I am thinking of getting a hardware speech synthesizer because I feel it Might improve my efficiency by making me independent of existing sound Resources on machines. I am aware hardware speech synthesizers are an Ancient concept, so I would like to ask around are they still being Manufactured for end users. If so, which ones are being produced as I am? Writing this? All the best, Felix
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Re: Want to upgrade computer
Antony Stone
1. We don't know what you regard as a "normal Windows 10 user".
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2. I would recommend more than 4Gbytes of RAM, and make certain you have 64- bit Windows. 3. See the thread on this list starting Friday 11th entitled "Minimum Specs for NVDA with Other Intensive Applications". Regards, Antony.
On Monday 14 January 2019 at 12:16:38, farhan israk wrote:
I want to upgrade my computer. Is core i3 processor and 4gb ram enough for --
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Want to upgrade computer
farhan israk
I want to upgrade my computer. Is core i3 processor and 4gb ram enough for normal windows 10 user?
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Re: Java accessibility
Antony Stone
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On Monday 14 January 2019 at 12:13:05, farhan israk wrote:
Thanks to all. How to get access to dev mailing list? I'm not able to --
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Re: Java accessibility
farhan israk
Thanks to all. How to get access to dev mailing list? I'm not able to enable java access bridge. If I run %JRE_HOME%\bin\jabswitch -enable command in command prompt, command prompt shows specified path is not available. I also tried arduino ide but couldn't use it due to accessibility issue. I also tried to install android studio but couldn't install it. In second page of I need to check android studio. I pressed space many times on it but couldn't check it. It remained unchecked. I installed clips ide. I found it very much accessible. I can easily use it. I want to know few things regarding this ide. Do I need to change any settings? How to compile and run code after writing code?
On Sun, 6 Jan 2019, 8:38 pm Isaac Porat <isaac@... wrote: Hi
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Re: Not starting computer
Antony Stone
Firstly, do you really mean that if you press the delete key after that
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message appears, nothing else happens? If that is true, I think your only recourse is to take the machine to a computer hardware repair shop and ask them to find out what's failed. If that is not true, and pressing delete does get you into the Bios setup screen, then the two most likely causes for the machine not starting further which I can think of are: 1. Bios battery dead; computer has forgotten what disks it has installed and therefore doesn't try booting from them. Diagnosis - go into Bios settings and check date / time. If it's correct, this idea is probably not the correct one. If date / time are incorrect (and I mean *really* incorrect - by years), then this is likely what's gone wrong. Solution - replace Bios battery, reconfigure Bios for the disks you have, restart machine. 2. Hard disk failure; Bios tries to boot disk but disk has become corrupted or has failed completely. Diagnosis - boot machine from a USB stick or CD - a live Linux distro would be good - see whether the hard disk gets detected and whether it can be read. Alternatively, take the hard disk out, connect it to another machine which can boot up, and see whether your disk can be read. Solution - replace or reformat the hard disk and restore your files from snapshot / backup. By the way, this is definitely not an NVDA question. Regards, Antony.
On Monday 14 January 2019 at 11:01:25, farhan israk wrote:
My computer isn't turning on. Computer shows press f1 to continue and --
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New nvda version
Brian's Mail list account
My nvda updated this morning. It seems to be just a small bug fix.
Brian bglists@... Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal E-mail to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field.
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NVDA issue with trees on Chrome
Ajay Sharma
Hey there,
I've been observing for quite a long time that NVDA does not find tree views while in browse mode on Chrome, although it does find with Tabbing. On firefox / IE, NVDA announce "tree view" upon reaching the tree, after that upon pressing Enter or Space we could interact with it, so I am curious if any thing is being done for addressing this issue. As there are more and more electron based apps are now coming in day to day activities, which use chromium as engine, there all the trees get skipped, which makes it hard to use. Cheers! Ajay
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Re: Screen Curtain and Virtual Review: new versions are out
#addonrelease
Brian's Mail list account
I do not think this is possible.
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I only see screen curtain working in windows 10 anyway. It is after all just a privacy help for laptops in my view. Turning off the monitor works for everyone else, or as I have, no monitor at all. It throws the poor old sighted when they come around I can tell you. Brian bglists@... Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal E-mail to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field.
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From: "zahra" <nasrinkhaksar3@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Monday, January 14, 2019 7:11 AM Subject: Re: [nvda] Screen Curtain and Virtual Review: new versions are out #AddonRelease hi joseph.
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Re: Dedicated speech synth card available
Brian's Mail list account
Question is, would the drivers still work on todays windows?
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From: "Rusty Perez" <rustys.lists@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2019 7:43 PM Subject: [nvda] Dedicated speech synth card available I just found a Messenger I C speech synthesizer card made by Aicom.
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Not starting computer
farhan israk
My computer isn't turning on. Computer shows press f1 to continue and delete to enter setup. But, nothing happens if I press f1 as well as delete. Now, what can I do?
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Re: query about windows 10 with NVDA
Brian's Mail list account
A little vague. Could there be a lot of updates downloading as it not been on the web for some time?
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From: "Meet modi" <meetmodi2359@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2019 6:44 PM Subject: [nvda] query about windows 10 with NVDA hi all
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Re: website beeping
Brian's Mail list account
Have you got the tabs or line indents set to beep or something similar?
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From: "Giles Turnbull" <giles.turnbull@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2019 1:21 PM Subject: [nvda] website beeping Hi all, I'm curious whether anybody else has noticed that some websites, admitedly relatively few, make a sort of beeping sound when cursoring down through the page? It doesn't happen when using say all. This website is doing it when I visited it this morning: https://www.movebubble.com/london/area-guides/2017/09/stratford-london-guide It's kind of like the beeping to indicate percentage progress, but it is apparently not associated with any media loading, just the act of using the cursor keys to navigate up or down the webpage. Thanks for any insight :) Giles
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Re: Screen Curtain and Virtual Review: new versions are out
#addonrelease
hi joseph.
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thanks so much for your great works. may i ask that which versions of nvda screen curtain supports? for example: if one day i install windows 7 and screen curtain, can i use my favorit version of nvda (2017.2) with screen curtain? thanks again for any help, God bless you!
On 1/13/19, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...> wrote:
Hi, --
By God, were I given all the seven heavens with all they contain in order that I may disobey God by depriving an ant from the husk of a grain of barley, I would not do it. imam ali
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Re: speaking passwords instead of star
Brian K. Lingard
Dear Giles & List:
Mot sure, if NVDA provides means of reading the asci value of a character, however, if it does, finding out the new character should be simple. If need be, you can install a demo of JAWS and use it in 40-minute mode to discover the masking characters. Brian K. Lingard
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf of Giles Turnbull
Hi Brian, _._,_._,_
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Re: Screen Curtain and Virtual Review: new versions are out
#addonrelease
Hi, A proof of concept is a product that demonstrates an idea. In this case, NVDA issue 7857 deals with a suggestion to add screen curtain functionality to NVDA, and this work is being done by a developer in Europe. The whole idea behind Screen Curtain add-on was to gather feedback from the NVDA community about this very feature. Based on feedback from users, this European developer made some changes to this feature which is slowly taking shape at the moment. In fact, Screen Curtain isn’t the first proof of concept add-on. That honor belongs to Control Usage Assistant (now discontinued), an add-on developed by me that added context-sensitive help messages for various controls. Nor Add-on Updater will be the latest proof of concept add-on that has graduated to stable release status, nor Windows 10 App Essentials the only one where the add-on is used to do early field testing for eventual NVDA pull requests. In case of Add-on Updater, it is the realization of NVDA issue 3208 (an issue I myself wrote) that advocated adding add-on update feature to NVDA, and I’m actively working on a pull request to make that into reality. Regarding Windows 10 App Essentials, one or more important features from that add-on has just been transferred to NVDA, and will show up as part of upcoming 2019.1 release (specifically, in NVDA 2019.1, you won’t need Windows 10 App Essentials to benefit from improved usability of various time pickers in Windows 10; speaking of features, emoji panel support was originally part of my add-on until it was transferred to NVDA in 2018.3). My sincere apologies for my tone. Cheers, Joseph
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ron Canazzi
Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2019 9:17 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Screen Curtain and Virtual Review: new versions are out #AddonRelease
Hi Joseph,
Just exactly what does 'proof of content' mean? I went to the add on page and it really doesn't say exactly except that it 'addresses core issue 7857.' What is that issue?
On 1/13/2019 10:56 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
-- They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes. They ask: "How Happy are You?" I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"
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Re: Minimum Specs for NVDA with Other Intensive Applications
Brian K. Lingard
Dear Monte & List:
Yes, you are correct; Admin rights are required to install programs on a network PC. Perhaps the PCs at Noah's school are stand-alone; actually saw a computer class running at CNIB in Toronto that way. Found at least one PC where the users just shut off power to the unit rather than exiting programs properly. Had an extraordinary number of cross-linked files. Told me the teacher never checked the systems for disk health or anything else, such as viruses. Brian K. Lingard From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf of Monte Single Sent: January 11, 2019 9:13 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Minimum Specs for NVDA with Other Intensive Applications You cannot install the Belarc advisor on a machine that is part of a network if you do not have administrative rights. I know I tried. From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf of Brian K. Lingard Sent: January-11-19 5:19 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Minimum Specs for NVDA with Other Intensive Applications Dear Noah & List: Running a screenreader adds a fair bit of work to a PC as you have a software synthesizer. You could offload the work of speaking by using a hardware synthesizer such as a Doubletalk or Triple talk. Your laptop needs SSD not a mechanical hard disk with 8, 16 or 32 GB RAM. 32 GB is best if you plan to do video and/or audio editing & recording. The PC at your school may have as little as one GB RAM and a slow CPU. Giving the laptop adequate RAM ids, more important that high-performance CPU. Look for a laptop with a fast, but not necessarily Intel I8 speed. An Intel I5 or six CPU should work fine. You consume CPU cycles a lot if you do sound or video editing, recalculate mammoth spreadsheets and run many programs concurrently. Web browsing is light work for a PC. Download the Belarc Advisor from HTTPS://www.belarc.com. Run it on the problem computers at school. Lists the CPU chip, installed RAM, software licenses, everything worth knowing about the PC. Also gives information on the SSD or Hard Disk. Program is free for personal use. Brian K. Lingard From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf of Noah Carver via Groups.Io Sent: January 10, 2019 6:53 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] Minimum Specs for NVDA with Other Intensive Applications Hi All, I will need to get a laptop for school; however, the school machines cannot run NVDA plus Chrome and Word all at the same time without lagging. What I need is a powerful machine that can handle email, office, and web Browsing, ETC. without wimping out on me while I am trying to do work. Do you have any recommendations for specs or any particular laptops that you might recommend? Thanks, Noah
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Re: Screen Curtain and Virtual Review: new versions are out
#addonrelease
Ron Canazzi
Hi Joseph,
Just exactly what does 'proof of content' mean? I went to the add on page and it really doesn't say exactly except that it 'addresses core issue 7857.' What is that issue?
On 1/13/2019 10:56 PM, Joseph Lee
wrote:
-- They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes. They ask: "How Happy are You?" I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"
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